pazienza:


Other than your usual senseless verbose posts, your are yet to provide evidence of AAU being the first state University.

I had provided my sources from both ESUT and AAU websites. I await yours.

pazienza:


Lol! Never knew that Shagari was an Igbo man or that his government was an Igbo government. The news we have been hearing so far in NL was how Ekwueme was a powerless VP, much less powerful than Osinbajo.

How exactly was his government now an Igbo government? Thought Ndiigbo are supposed to be powerless?

Imagine a person from Edo state, an empire of blood, Gore and mercilessness that sent even hordes of her citizens scampering for safety towards western Igboland, speaking about Wickedness.

This is now bordering on comedy. You need to cry me more blood, after all, you are an Edo, right? you should know alot about blood.

pazienza:


Lol! Just seeing Edo written as. Minority and you accepting your minority status gives me joy.

You would have to redeem your self from being a minority amongst minorities in SS to be able to talk to Ndiigbo.

This discussion had all been about establishing your minority, inferiority and powerless state before a segment of Ndiigbo called SE. And so far, it's a mission accomplished.

I think we are done.

Deadlytruth:


If you can't see it above I am sorry I can't be your comprehension teacher.
ESUT website says the school was founded in 1980 but established 1979 and you call that an evidence?

The state governors and Shagari-Ekweme were handed over to by Obasanjo on October 1 1979. Now how come the Anambra Governor was able to draft the bill for the ASUTH got it through the first, second and third readings, and the house committee sat over it and passed it into law all within three months before the dawn of Jan 1 1980? Can't you see that the ESUTECH site you've been relying on is a thrash site?

Deadlytruth:


Please show me where I ever suggested majority status for Edo you pained native of an unfortunate and humiliated majority.

pazienza:


Lol! Now you know you are a minority, right? Lol!
Don't worry, I'm not done conditioning you. When I'm done, your life will not remain the same.

Let me tell you, Edo is not just a minority, Edo is a minority amongst minorities. In SS, a supposedly minority region, Edo is the minority there with little or no say?

You know why? Because Edo is an anomaly, a freak of nature. She was only added to SS for convenience sake, Edo is more like a Northern( Muslims in Edo North) and. Yoruba region all mixed in one.

Isn't it a pity, an empire of blood built on intimidation of neighbouring innocent groups reduced to mere minorities in present Nigeria, big landmass but sparse population, perhaps the price of wars of expansionism she carried. It must hurt alot watching those minorities in Delta state and in Ondo you once terrorized using arms the Portuguese borrowed to you, lording it over you today in your SS.

It's even worst knowing that your only choice of survival is sticking with them in a colonial arrangement as you have not the gusto, finesse, population, human resources or other wherewithal to make it alone as a prosperous independent nation, reason why you are not seeking for independence.

But if you think you will be allowed to pour your self inflicted frustrations on Ndiigbo unchallenged like your fore runners did, then you must have mistaken this Current Igbo generation for the ones your forerunners interacted with.

I can assure you that all your Igbophobic posts on this forum would be screened and 10times more hate you spilled on Ndiigbo returned to you and your Edo, until you know your place.

Lol!

Deadlytruth:


If Ekweme was powerless and was not in approval of Shagari's action, then why did he not resign from his government? Igbos and lies coupled with wickedness.

Deadlytruth:


See this hypocrite talking. What of your own native Muslims in Afikpo LGAs if Ebonyi? I guess Ebonyi state has become a North or SW state on account of that. You biafrauds stink of hypocrisy.
If Edo ever oppressed any SS tribe then why are they okay having Edo as brothers? Why was the first ever SS summit held in Edo?
You claim Biafrans have disdain for anything Islam yet you seek the support of Mujahideen Asari Dokubo, a devout Muslim, in agitating for a joint SS/SE Biafra Republic. Hypocrisy of the highest order.
By your preposterous logic even Bayelsa will become a Yoruba or Northern state on account of her indigenous Muslims like Dokubo and the rest?
You people are to narrow in thinking and shallow minded. You think Asari Dokubo will really agree to be part of a the first country in the world in which so-called Christians will persecute adherents of other faiths despite being of their own blood?
Keep fooling yourself!

pazienza:



Lol! You are still crying? The Muslims in Afikpo are as minute as they come, they are insignificant, we can't say same of Edo state where they hold sway in places like Auchi and Igarra.

Why wouldn't they want to have Edo? Who wouldn't want to keep a minority amongst minorities?

Asari is one man. His Buguma people are not Muslims.
Moreover, I personally only prefer Biafra of Igbo speaking people only.

No one will persecute anyone in Biafra for their religion, we are peaceful and tolerant people. It's a trait we gained from mastery of peaceful resolution conflicts over the centuries, something I don't expect someone whose ancestors were busy looking for who subjugate to build empires to know.
See:
https://www.nairaland.com/3103641/south-east-safest-place-live-un

Hehe!

pazienza:


Ekwueme is entitled to his actions. I actually don't know if he was in support of the movement, but if he did, then he did on his own volition and you won't see any Igbo person supporting such decisions currently.

Either way, I find you childish antics of hanging the decision of the government of the day then, who for whatever reasons felt the states were not matured enough to run their own universites on Ekwueme and by Extension, Ndiigbo.

Deadlytruth:


Was it not rather childish to have assumed that states were not strong enough to run their own universities? Did they not eventually run it? It would take only a Northerners to reason that way due to their own illiteracy and feudalists mindset which sees education as a threat to their stranglehold on the talakawas. It was a pity that Ekueme, with all his supposed educational qualification, was not irritated. enough to resign from. that Government and that even the Anambra Governor secretly admiring g Ambrose Alli's struggle refused to identify with him openly and advise Ekueme to resign from such a retrogressive regime.
Igbos are quick to isolate any Igbo who victimizes other tribes but easy lump all the other tribes into the guilt of just one of their own.

pazienza:




"Perhaps the most glorious day in the
University was the day of official opening and
laying of the Foundation Stone on March 29,
1982. it drew an unprecedented number of
dignitaries from all parts of Nigeria and from
all works of life. The event was also marked
by the turning of the sod and the launching of
an Endowment Fund. This foundation laying
ceremony was performed by the Right
Honourable Dr. Nnamdi Azikiwe, the Owelle of
Onitsha and the first President of the Federal
Republic of Nigeria and was witnessed by the
famous statesman, politician, educationist,
legal luminary Chief Obafemi Awolowo,
veteran politician, statesman and
philanthropist Alhaji Waziri, Ibrahim, Governors
of several States, traditional rulers, Federal
and State legislators, legal luminaries and
academicians.
The Chief Launcher, Chief Hope Harriman, the
Sobaloju of Ile-ife donated N100,000 while
Chief Michael Ibru donated N50,000. Mr.
Stephen Ehiemua (Mousco) N12,000, Dr.
Nnamdi Azikiwe N10,000, Chief Obafemi
Awolowo N10,000, Chief Jim Nwobodo
N10,000, Mr. A. A. Egbor N10,000 and many
others".

Look at the list of those who supported the creation of the university and identified with her.

Nnamdi Azikiwe and Jim Nwobodo, both Igbos.

Remember both of them were not members of same party as Ekwueme, and that Azikiwe not Ekwueme was the Igbo candidate in the 1979 elections.

This your penchant of looking for a way to put your pains at the floor of the Igbo house, looking for cheap blackmails of painting Igbos black to support your failed colonial entity, will always be exposed as lies.

Zik and Nwobodo both Igbo leaders supported the take off of AAU, Nwobodo and Zik even donated money to the New University.
But all the Igbo get from bitter haters like you is condemnation and hate.

Don't worry. this upcoming Igbo generation have learnt from the mistakes of our fore runners. All you Igbophobic entities are going to get from us is your hate multiplied 10 Times and returned back to you, until you lots are consumed by it.

Deadlytruth:
Below is one of the numerous speeches made by Azikiwe on behalf of Igbos chiding and lambasting the North for trying to seceed from Nigeria.
(1953) Nnamdi Azikiwe, “Speech on Secession”
In 1953 when Northern Nigerians were beginning to consider secession from the Nigerian colony that would soon be a nation, Nnamdi Azikiwe gave a speech before the caucus of his political party, the National Council of Nigeria and the Cameroons (NCNC) in Yaba, Nigeria on May 12, 1953. That speech, while not disallowing secession, suggested that there would be grave consequences if the Northern region became an independent nation. Ironically, fourteen years later, Azikiwe led his Eastern Region out of Nigeria and created Biafra, a move that prompted a bloody three year civil war. Azikiwe's 1953 speech appears below.
I have invited you to attend this caucus because I would like you to make clear our stand on the issue of secession. As a party, we would have preferred Nigeria to remain intact, but lest there be doubt as to our willingness to concede to any shade of political opinion the right to determine its policy, I am obliged to issue a solemn warning to those who are goading the North towards secession. If you agree with my views, then I hope that in course of our deliberations tonight, you will endorse them, to enable me to publicize them in the Press.
In my opinion, the Northerners are perfectly entitled to consider whether or not they should secede from the indissoluble (NOTE ZIK'S USE OF THIS ADJECTIVE AS IT BETRAYED THE FACT THAT HE BELIEVED DEEP DOWN IN HIM THAT NIGERIA'S UNITY WAS NON-NEGOTIABLE AND IRREVOCABLE) union which nature has formed between it and the South, but it would be calamitous to the corporate existence of the North should the clamour for secession prevail. I, therefore, counsel Northern leaders to weigh the advantages and disadvantages of secession before embarking upon this dangerous course.
As one who was born in the North, I have a deep spiritual attachment to that part of the country, but it would be a capital political blunder if the North should break away from the South. The latter is in a better position to make rapid constitutional advance, so that if the North should become truncated from the South, it would benefit both Southerners and Northerners who are domiciled in the South more than their kith and kin who are domiciled in the North.
There are seven reasons for my holding to this view. Secession by the North may lead to internal political convulsion there when it is realized that militant nationalists and their organizations, like the NLPU, the Askianist Movement, and the Middle Zone League, have aspirations for self-government in 1956 identical with those of their Southern compatriots. It may lead to justifiable demands for the right of self-determination by non-Muslims, who form the majority of the population in the so-called ‘Pagan’ provinces, like Benue, Ilorin, Kabba, Niger and Plateau, not to mention the claims of non-Muslims who are domiciled in Adamawa and Bauchi Provinces.
It may lead to economic nationalism in the Eastern Region, which can pursue a policy of blockade of the North, by refusing it access to the sea, over and under the River Niger, except upon payment of tolls. It may lead to economic warfare between the North on the one hand, and the Eastern or Western regions on the other, should they decide to fix protective tariffs which will make the use of the ports of the Last and West uneconomic for the North.
The North may be rich in mineral resources and certain cash crops, but that is no guarantee that it would be capable of growing sufficient food crops to enable it to feed its teeming millions, unlike the East and the West. Secession may create hardship for Easterners and Westerners who are domiciled in the North, since the price of food crops to be imported into the North from the South is bound to be very high and to cause an increase in the cost of living. Lastly, it will endanger the relations with their neighbours of millions of Northerners who are domiciled in the East and West and Easterners and Westerners who reside in the North.
You may ask me whether there would be a prospect of civil war, if the North decided to secede? My answer would be that it is a hypothetical question which only time can answer. In any case, the plausible cause of a civil war might be a dispute as to the right of passage on the River Niger, or the right of flight over the territory of the Eastern or Western Region; but such disputes can be settled diplomatically, instead of by force.
Nevertheless, if civil war should become inevitable at this stage of our progress as a nation, then security considerations must be borne in mind by those who are charged with the responsibility of government of the North and the South. Military forces and installations are fairly distributed in all the three regions; if that is not the case, any of the regions can obtain military aid from certain interested Powers. It means that we cannot preclude the possibility of alliance with certain countries.
You may ask me to agree that if the British left Nigeria to its fate, the Northerners would continue their uninterrupted march to the sea, as was prophesied six years ago? My reply is that such an empty threat is devoid of historical substance and that so far as I know, the Eastern Region has never been subjugated by any indigenous African invader. At the price of being accused of overconfidence, I will risk a prophecy and say that, other things being equal, the Easterners will defend themselves gallantly, if and when they are invaded.
Let me take this opportunity to warn those who are making a mountain out of the molehill of the constitutional crisis to be more restrained and constructive. The dissemination of lies abroad; the publishing of flamboyant headlines about secessionist plans, and the goading of empty-headed careerists with gaseous ideas about their own importance in tile scheme of things in the North is being overdone in certain quarters. I feel that these quarters must be held responsible for any breach between the North and South, which nature had indissolubly united in a political, social and economic marriage of convenience. In my personal opinion, there is no sense in the North breaking away or the East or the West breaking away; it would be better if all the regions would address themselves to the task of crystallizing common nationality, irrespective of the extraneous influences at work. What history has joined together let no man put asunder. But history is a strange mistress which can cause strange things to happen!
Sources:
Nnamdi Azikiwe, Zik: A Selection from the Speeches of Nnamdi Azikiwe, Governor-General of the Federation of Nigeria formerly President of the Nigerian Senate formerly Premier of the Eastern Region of Nigeria (Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 1961).
1886-1960
http://www.blackpast.org/1953-nnamdi-azikiwe-speech-secession
(1953) Nnamdi Azikiwe, “Speech on Secession” | The Black Past: Remembered and Reclaimed
blackpast.org
(1953) Nnamdi Azikiwe, “Speech on Secession” | The Black Past: Remembered and Reclaimed
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Catch phrases like, "The unity of Nigeria is non-negotiable", "One-Nigeria", "I am prepared to pay the ultimate price for the survival of this union", etc" were all invented and propagated by Zik and Igbos.
Awolowo opined that "Nigeria is not a nation. It is a mere geographical expression. There are no ‘Nigerians’ in the same sense as there are ‘English’, ‘Welsh,’ or ‘French’. The word ‘Nigerian’ is merely a distinctive appellation to distinguish those who live within the boundaries of Nigeria from those who do not."
Tafawa Balewa said as follows: "Since 1914 the British Government has been trying to make Nigeria into one country, but the Nigerian people themselves are historically different in their backgrounds, in their religious beliefs and customs and do not show themselves any sign of willingness to unite, Nigerian unity is only a British intention for the country."
Anthony Enahoro demanded the inclusion of secession clause in our constitution so as to make it very easy for any region which later felt cheated to exit the union peacefully without a single bullet or a drop of anyone's blood.
Ahmadu Bello said, "Nigeria is the mistake of 1914 which if not reversed will eventually become a theatre of daily bloodshed.
But Nnamdi Azikiwe, said as follows: "My parents are natives of Eastern Nigeria, the arsenal of republicanism in Nigeria. Although I am Ibo, yet I speak Yoruba and I have a smattering of Hausa. I am now Premier of Eastern Nigeria, the land of my fathers, which lies five hundred miles from Lagos and almost a thousand miles from the place of my birth in Zungeru, in Northern Nigeria. Each of our three Regions is vastly different in many respects, but each has this in common: that, despite variety of languages and custom or difference in climate, all form part of one country which has existed as a political and social entity for fifty years. That is why we believe that the political union of Nigeria is destined to be PERPETUAL and INDESTRUCTIBLE.
Read more at: http://www.vanguardngr/
com/2016/10/quotes-founding-fathers-nigeria/
Quotes of founding fathers on Nigeria - Vanguard News

Deadlytruth:
WHY BIAFRA WILL EVER REMAIN SLAVES OF AREWANISTANIS:

Azikiwe the greatest Biafran made it clear that the he was prepared to pay the ultimate price for the survival of this British Fraud. His commitment to this objective is underscored by the fact that he never in his lifetime regretted his several political alignments with Arewanistan even after same resulted in a war which took 3 million lives of his own brothers. He used his brothers as guinea pigs for an unnecessary experiment

pazienza:


Lol! First you go off tangent on how AAU was the first Nigerian state University, when that became debunked, you went about looking to hold Ndiigbo for FG actions.

The slaves of Arewa-oduanistanis know themselves. They are currently minority amongst minorities and yet are not seeking for independence but are fighting hard to retain the colonial entity. A slave with no desire for freedom, that's the worst form of slavery.

Zik for whatever reason is entitled to his own opinions and actions, he believed in United Nigeria, Modern Igbo youths don't, which is why Azikiwe is not celebrated as a Hero in Igboland today. His actions and beliefs of yester years are at variance to the belief and drive of the modern Igbo. The old UK leaders put UK in EU and worked for the union of EU, the current UK people and leaders felt no connection with EU and decided the union had outlived its usefulness to the people of UK, hence the Brexit.


A people have the right to reverse their association with any union many years after they fought to preserve such union. Your blackmail is cheap , moronic and irrational and won't stop the Igbo from taking a different course from that taken by Zik. Our sovereignty is ours to give or take, and our right to self determination is sacrosanct.

It's Moronic to say because an Igbo leader found the Nigerian union tasty yesteryears and promoted its unity, there fore Igbo leaders and people have no right to find the union distasteful today and to seek for severance of the Igbo nation from the union.
King James VI of Scotland promoted the union of Scotland and England, the Scottish parliament supported the union of Scotland and England in 1707, yet not long ago, the modern Scottish leader Alex salmon sought for the breakaway of Scotland from UK, it took a referendum to stop him.
If UK were Nigeria, Morons would have said that Salmond and Scottish people had no right to seek for independence of Scotland or ask for referendum, since it was a Scottish king that promoted the formation of UK centuries ago and the Scottish parliament leaders supported the move.

pazienza:
Zik was the first Southerner to align with a Hausa-
Fulani Northern party - NEPU. On the excuse that
an alliance cutting across North and South was
better for a non-existent national unity as against
the suggested all-South coalition, he took it further
in 1959 by aligning with the rabid and larger
umbrella Northern party - NPC to emerge a
ceremonial Governor General who approved and
signed all the documents directing the
imprisonment of his fellow Southerners to the
cheering of the Arewanistan.


Lol! After Awolowo introduction of tribal politics in the 1951 Western region election to win the region for his AG, what option exactly did he leave for NCNC but to align with the North.

And moreover, while NCNC aligned with NEPU, AG was also aligned with UMBC, both NEPU and UMBC being the minority parties in the North.

The circumstances behind the aligning of NCNC with NPC was hinged on Awo's treachery where he wanted to play Zik a fool, but was instead checkmated by Zik who left him in the lurch. Awo would later play the same game successfully against Ojukwu. For while Awo was posturing as a middle man in search of alliance with the East, he was also searching for a possible alliance with the North.

Awolowo was imprisoned for treasonable felony, after his greed got the better of him and he was found guilty of trying to Usurp the ruling. Balewagovernment( an offense he would later 're commit against IBB), he was tried a a court of law by a Yoruba judge and found guilty of all the charges levelled against him, alongside with his fellow culprits in AG.
How anybody would attribute Awo imprisonment to Zik and Ndiigbo and not to Awo greed and lust for power, remain a mystery to me. But nevertheless is in keeping with the tradition of bitter Igbophobic groups pinning all. their self inflicted mis fortunes on Ndiigbo.

pazienza:


Quit beating about the bush: https://www.nairaland.com/3675653//7#54500260

Everything on that topic had been trashed here. If you have anything new to add other than your usual rantings and assigning of your schizophrenic thoughts on people's speeches, bring it to that thread.

pazienza:
In 1979, exactly 20 years from 1959, Zik and Igbos
went into alliance again with NPN the
metamorphosis product of NPC and NEPU to
produce another Arewanistan-Biafra coalition
government. That too won gold in ineptitude and
soon attracted military coup.
In 1999, twenty years again from 1979, the
Arewanistan-Biafra coalition came again in the
form of PDP which got its winning votes mostly
from the North and Middle East to place a lackey
of the North in office with the promise to hand over
to the same Ekueme after having being shoved
aside with money in the primaries by IBB the
founder of the party who recently admitted the
existence of a military wing in it.

Lol! And PDP that never produced an Igbo president miraculously became an Igbo party. The same party Anenih( an Edo man) and co held sway.

Your revisionism is schizophrenic! Ekwueme was one of the founders of PDP, but wasn't considered an easier lackey to control by powers that be, hence the choice of OBJ, he was also thought to be Biafran.

Either way, PDP was a national party and never was an Igbo- Arewa party. You are just a desperate being.

pazienza:
The truth remains that your fear and envy if Edo's
glorious past still haunts you hence you keep
talking of Edo Empire and Edo having no say in the
SS and being a minority. You are obviously pained.
The truth about the SS is that it is a region of
peaceful, loving, kind, gentle, godly and caring
people. The way we relate with one another is not
about who has which say but about what is true,
right, just and beneficial to everyone. That is why
you can't find a SS people at each other's necks.
We are not after one another's lands or resources.
When we are away from home we respect our
hosts.

Lol! No one is scared of an empire of blood and Gore!
The oldest civilization in Southern Nigeria is Nri, and the art works at Igbo ukwu were more sophisticated than those of Edo.

Don't know what you mean by "SS". SE people are at peace with Ndiigbo in Enu-ani, in Delta state, Igbo sons and daughters in Enu-ani like Okonjo, Utomi, Okocha Achuzia, Asagba of Asaba, the people of Abia state are in good terms with their Annang and Ibibio neighbors, and the Ndokis are in good terms with their Ogoni neighbors.
I don't see how an Edo man is related or more connected to a Cross riverian more than Abians that are their direct neighbors.

You don't have more history or association with states like Rivers, Akwa Ibom, Cross River than SE that share direct boundaries with them. Akpabio, Imoke are all married to Igbo women from SE, Amaechi Wife is from Anambra state. The current Ohanaeze Secretary General, Uche Okwukwu is an Ikwerre.

There is a reason why SE has small landmass and is densely populated. We never engaged in war of expansionism against our immediate neighbors, and as such we never lost lives in war in the ancient days.
SE is the safest region in the entire country because of peace loving nature of her people. Only Igbophobic people think otherwise.

So don't tell me stories of Edo living in peace with groups in SS ,The gelegele issue in Edo state between Edos and Ijaws is still a fresh case.

You can spare me this you BS post.

pazienza:
Zik introduced tribal politics in 1938 when he pulled
out of NYM on account of his candidate's loss of
the movement's chairmanship.
What Awolowo fought against in 1951 was inter-
regional intrusion. His Outburst that "It would
appear that the god of Igbos had placed Nigeria's
destiny in Igbos' hands" Was also another tribal
slur that preceeded the 1951 saga. Moreover Zik
never actually won that election. Only the usual
Igbo propaganda machine held out this lie for
decades. The stats are available and I will post it
soon.

If you had read more you would have known.
In what planet could Zik had introduced tribal politics in Nigeria, when his candidate in the 1938 NYM election was not an Igbo, but a Yoruba in the person of Samuel Akinsanya!
How exactly could Zik supporting a Yoruba candidate be the cause of the Yoruba- Igbo rift that Awo introduced to win the 1951 elections?
What Awo fought in 1951 was inter tribal intrusions.

pazienza:
If we even take it hypothetically that the above
donation list is valid, then the fact that only one
Yoruba man's donation dwarfed all Igbos'
donations combined is an evidence of Yorubas
superiority to Igbos as regards love for education.
Likewise Ibru's own alone dwarfs the combined
Igbo ones. Is that not still a confirmation of the
superiority of Edoids over the entire Middle East as
regards love for educational development? It still
was an evidence that Igbos were not happy with
Ambrose Alli's court victory over the Arewanistan-
Biafra FG, thus they donated paltry sums just for
tokenism.


Lol! How much did you bitter beings donate to ASUTECH and IMSU during their own inauguration in 1981 and 1982?

Bitter beings!