PASHA1:
HND is the worst qualification especially in engineering. You Think that you are an engineer, but you are not. You are not a technician as well becuase you are a bit higher in level. If you were Newton but with HND, then you are nothing. It is a respectless qualification. My best advice is to and study for a degree starting from zero. I have lost my hair because of HND.

Chegal: @GNwafor- Ok, I hate to burst ur bubble but why are u up here spreading lies. My sis went to the same school and a US university made her go all 4 years. An HND is not equivalent to a Bachelors, sorry. Its a only a certificate. A Bsc is equivalent to an Associates.

GNwafor:
Fellow Friends;


Take Time to go through my reply about this thread:

Without mincing words, we cannot claim the ignorance of how the western world respect, honour, accept and revere our dignified Higher National Diploma. Our ND & HND certificate and curriculum is highly acceptable for higher degree admission. For most of the us who are myopic about the curriculum which we covered in our NBTE accredited National Diploma & Higher National Diploma program. It may surprise most of you who will read this thread to know that what you studied in your ND & HND curriculum is far higher than the required credit for a BS degree program.

My Story:

I studied ND & HND Chemical Engineering from IMT Enugu; and a Post Graduate Diploma (PGD) Piping Design & Engineering from MIT Pune India. Believe it or leave it. I apply for credential evaluation to World Education Service (WES) - New York USA in June 16, 2012. WES requested for the Transcripts to be sent directly from the Issuing Institution from Nigeria & India respectively. The Indian School sent their directly and it was honoured. I complete the required documentation for student from Nigeria, but they request for further verification from IMT Enugu Nigeria. IMT Enugu Nigeria, replied to their letter together with another copy of my ND & HND Transcript in the last week of February 2013. Then WES promised me that my evaluation will be ready on 7th March 2013. I guessed because of the weekend, the Evaluation - Course By Course Report from WES actually came out on 11th March 2013.

You will be amazed with what am about to reveal to you from the NBTE accredited curriculum ND & HND Chemical Engineering from IMT Enugu Nigeria.

This is it:

________________________________________
EVALUATION
Date: March 12, 2013
Ref#: 2347933

________________________________________
U.S. EQUIVALENCY SUMMARY

Bachelor's degree from a regionally accredited institution




CREDENTIAL ANALYSIS
1 Credential Authentication: Transcripts were verified by the institution
Country: Nigeria
Credential: Higher National Diploma
Year: 2008
Awarded by: Institute of Management and Technology, Enugu
Admission requirements: School Certificate
Length of program: Five years
Major/Specialization: Chemical Engineering
U.S. Equivalency: Bachelor's degree
Remarks: The program included one year of industrial training.

2 Credential Authentication: Official transcripts were sent directly by the institution
Country: India
Credential: Statement of Marks
Year: 2012
Awarded by: Maharashtra Institute of Technology, Pune
Admission requirements: High school graduation
Length of program: One year
Major/Specialization: Design
U.S. Equivalency: One year of post-secondary study
Remarks: Upon completion of the program, Mr. Nwafor was awarded the Postgraduate Diploma in Piping Design.














________________________________________
COURSE-BY-COURSE ANALYSIS
________________________________________
INSTITUTIONS-DATES-SUBJECTS U.S. Semester Credits U.S. Grades
________________________________________

Institute of Management and Technology, Enugu

2003-2004

(L)Mechanics and Properties of Matter 3.0 B+
(L)General and Physical Chemistry 3.0 B+
(L)Introduction to Statistics 2.0 A
(L)Logic and Linear Algebra 2.0 A
(L)Algebra and Trigonometry 2.0 A
(L)Technical Drawing I 3.0 B+
(L)Use of English I 2.0 B+
(L)Computer Appreciation 2.0 A
(L)Basic Chemistry 3.0 B+
(L)Basic Physics 3.0 B+
(L)Introduction to Geometry 3.0 B+
(L)Chemical Engineering Calculations 3.0 A
(L)Mechanical Engineering Lab 2.0 B+
(L)General Laboratory Technology I 2.0 B+
(L)Plant Services and Maintenance 2.0 B+
(L)Citizenship Education 3.0 A
(L)Electrical Engineering Science 3.0 A
(L)Use of English II 2.0 A

2004-2005
(L)Thermodynamics 2.0 A
(L)Unit Operations I 2.0 B+
(L)Mass Transfer I 2.0 A
(L)Heat Transfer I 2.0 A
(L)Fluid and Particle Mechanics I 2.0 A
(L)Chemical Engineering Lab I 3.0 B+
(L)Chemical Engineering Drawing 2.0 A
(L)General Laboratory Technology II 2.0 B+
(L)Technical Drawing II 2.0 B+
(L)Communication in English 2.0 A
(L)Introduction to Chemical Engineering I 2.0 A
(L)Differentiation and Integration 2.0 A
(L)Chemical Engineering Reactions 2.0 A
(L)Unit Operations II 2.0 A
(L)Fuel Technology 2.0 A
(L)Instrumentation and Process Control I 3.0 A
(L)Safety and Environmental Control I 2.0 B+
(L)Chemical Engineering Lab II 3.0 A
(L)Corrosion and Material Science 2.0 A
(L)Introduction to Sociology 2.0 A
(L)Seminar 2.0 A
(L)Project Work 4.0 A

2005-2006

(U)Industrial Attachment ** 0.0 C
(**No credit was indicated on the original transcript)

2006-2007

(U)Advanced Algebra 2.0 A
(U)Advanced Calculus 2.0 A
(U)Laboratory Management 2.0 A
(U)Unit Operations III 2.0 A
(U)Chemical Engineering Lab III 3.0 A
(U)Heat Transfer II 2.0 A
(U)Chemical Engineering Thermodynamics 2.0 B
(U)Mass Transfer II 2.0 A
(U)Statistical Methods 2.0 A
(U)Use of English III 2.0 B+
(U)Computer Programming 3.0 A
(U)Numerical Methods 2.0 A
(U)General Instrumentation II 2.0 B+
(U)Unit Operations IV 2.0 B+
(U)Chemical Engineering Lab IV 3.0 B+
(U)Material Science and Strength of Materials 2.0 B+
(U)Fluid and Particle Mechanics II 2.0 A
(U)Polymer Technology 2.0 B+
(U)Communication in English III 2.0 B+
(U)Introduction to Psychology 3.0 A

2007-2008

(U)Chemical Plant Economics 2.0 B+
(U)Chemical Reaction Engineering I 2.0 B+
(U)Unit Operations V 2.0 A
(U)Process Design 3.0 A
(U)Pilot Plant and Scale Up 2.0 A
(U)Chemical Engineering Lab V 3.0 A
(U)Industrial Management 3.0 A
(U)Food Science and Technology 2.0 A
(U)Pulp and Paper Technology 2.0 A
(U)Process Metallurgy 2.0 A
(U)Unit Operations VI 2.0 A
(U)Equipment Design 2.0 A
(U)Process Control 2.0 A
(U)Plant Service and Maintenance 2.0 B+
(U)Safety and Environmental Control II 2.0 B+
(U)Petrochemical Technology 2.0 A
(U)Biochemical Engineering 2.0 A
(U)Seminar 2.0 B+
(U)Project Work 2.0 B+
(U)Literary Appreciation and Oral Composition 3.0 A
(U)Chemical Instrumentation Control 2.0 A

Maharashtra Institute of Technology, Pune
2011-2012

Post-Secondary
Fluid Handling 4.5 A
Systems Engineering 4.5 B+
Layout Engineering 4.5 B+
Thermal Insulation, Cost of Piping, and Hygienic Piping 4.5 A
Material Specification, Instrumentation and Process Control, and Corrosion 4.5 A
Welding and NDT Management, Statutory Regulations, and Regulatory Acts 4.5 A
Stress Analysis 4.5 A





SUMMARY
Total Non-Accredited Post-Secondary Semester Credits: 31.5 GPA: 3.81
Total Undergraduate Semester Credits: 184.0 GPA: 3.76



Need to order an additional copy, go to http://www.wes.org/apply/xcopy.asp.

________________________________________

WES EVALUATION TERMS
Evaluation Scope: World Education Services (WES) evaluates only formal educational credentials. WES does not evaluate professional experience. WES evaluations are based upon the best information and resources available to professional evaluators. WES evaluations are offered as non-binding advisory opinions.
Accredited Institution: The status of a nationally recognized institution in another country is comparable to that of a regionally accredited institution in the United States.
Credential Authentication: Evaluations prepared by WES specify the manner in which each document was authenticated. The method used depends on what is appropriate for the specific country and level of education. WES authenticates academic records by one of the following methods.
• by requiring that official transcripts be sent to WES directly by the institutions or examination bodies that issued them;
OR
• by requiring that official transcripts be authenticated by the relevant government authority (e.g. Ministry of Education) before being sent directly to WES;
OR
• by verifying documents submitted by individuals by sending them back to the institutions/examination bodies that issued them and obtaining a written confirmation of their authenticity.
Detailed country-by-country document requirements can be viewed at www.wes.org/required/index.asp
Grades/ Quality Points: WES uses an alphabetic system to identify grades. The standard WES conversion of letter grades into a numerical scale/quality points is as follows: A = 4.00; A-=3.67; B+ = 3.33; B = 3.00; B- = 2.67; C+ = 2.33; C = 2.00; C- = 1.67; D+ = 1.33; D = 1.00; F = 0
• “F*” indicates a course that was failed initially, but passed on a subsequent attempt. It is not included in the GPA calculation.
• “Pass” is not included in the Cumulative Grade Point Average. For study completed at the undergraduate level, it corresponds to at least a “C” in the United States. For graduate and professional study, “Pass” corresponds to at least a “B”.
Grade Point Average (GPA) is calculated by multiplying the credits per course by the quality points for the grade for that course, repeating this procedure for each course, totaling the credit hour quality points thus obtained, and dividing by the total number of credits.
Course Level Designation: The designation “U” (upper) or “L” (lower) against a course at the undergraduate level is an indication of its level.
Credit Recognition and Transfer: The course-by-course analysis represents a breakdown of post-secondary study in terms of U.S. semester credits and grade equivalents. The number of credits accepted for transfer to a degree program or towards a professional license in the United States may vary from those listed in this report in accordance with the policies of the receiving educational institution or professional agency.
Evaluations for Professional Licensing/Certification: WES does not assess professional aptitude or experience. Only authorities qualified in the profession can determine whether an individual meets requirements for licensing or to practice the profession in the United States.




Matters Arising from the WES Evaluation:

In the US, a bachelors degree is completed in 4 years and as a BS degree student you are expected to earn/accumulate 120 credit points. But from my WES Evaluation, the combined years of studies for ND & HND is 5 years. From my ND & HND curriculum in Chemical Engineering from IMT Enugu, Nigeria, instead of accumulating just 120 credits, I earned/accumulated 184 credit. (Please bear in mind that in the USA, in an MS degree, you are expected to earn just 36 credits, which if you compare with my ND & HND curriculum, you can see that I earned extra 64 credit more than a BS degree).
Also, in IMT Enugu, my ND CGPA is 3.41/4.00; and HND CGPA is 3.40/4.00. From the overall WES evaluation, my overall CGPA is 3.76/4.00.

So from the foregoing, I think that with all the threads that I have read about HND & BSc dichotomy in Nigeria, I think that if you have graduated with a HND from a Polytechnic or Monotechnic, strive for a US degree, and save yourself of unnecessary anxiety and disrespect from our BS degree counterpart.

Presently, am preparing to apply for an online MS in Engineering from a Nationally accredited university in the USA.

Note: WES Evaluation has made more proud about my HND & ND in Chemical Engineering. I will be monitoring this thread to know your comments and provide further detailed information.

p2son:

please I /need ur help Hia wats. grade for an ond holder in u.s

GNwafor:
Fellow Friends;


Take Time to go through my reply about this thread:

Without mincing words, we cannot claim the ignorance of how the western world respect, honour, accept and revere our dignified Higher National Diploma. Our ND & HND certificate and curriculum is highly acceptable for higher degree admission. For most of the us who are myopic about the curriculum which we covered in our NBTE accredited National Diploma & Higher National Diploma program. It may surprise most of you who will read this thread to know that what you studied in your ND & HND curriculum is far higher than the required credit for a BS degree program.

My Story:

I studied ND & HND Chemical Engineering from IMT Enugu; and a Post Graduate Diploma (PGD) Piping Design & Engineering from MIT Pune India. Believe it or leave it. I apply for credential evaluation to World Education Service (WES) - New York USA in June 16, 2012. WES requested for the Transcripts to be sent directly from the Issuing Institution from Nigeria & India respectively. The Indian School sent their directly and it was honoured. I complete the required documentation for student from Nigeria, but they request for further verification from IMT Enugu Nigeria. IMT Enugu Nigeria, replied to their letter together with another copy of my ND & HND Transcript in the last week of February 2013. Then WES promised me that my evaluation will be ready on 7th March 2013. I guessed because of the weekend, the Evaluation - Course By Course Report from WES actually came out on 11th March 2013.

You will be amazed with what am about to reveal to you from the NBTE accredited curriculum ND & HND Chemical Engineering from IMT Enugu Nigeria.

This is it:

________________________________________
EVALUATION
Date: March 12, 2013
Ref#: 2347933

________________________________________
U.S. EQUIVALENCY SUMMARY

Bachelor's degree from a regionally accredited institution




CREDENTIAL ANALYSIS
1 Credential Authentication: Transcripts were verified by the institution
Country: Nigeria
Credential: Higher National Diploma
Year: 2008
Awarded by: Institute of Management and Technology, Enugu
Admission requirements: School Certificate
Length of program: Five years
Major/Specialization: Chemical Engineering
U.S. Equivalency: Bachelor's degree
Remarks: The program included one year of industrial training.

2 Credential Authentication: Official transcripts were sent directly by the institution
Country: India
Credential: Statement of Marks
Year: 2012
Awarded by: Maharashtra Institute of Technology, Pune
Admission requirements: High school graduation
Length of program: One year
Major/Specialization: Design
U.S. Equivalency: One year of post-secondary study
Remarks: Upon completion of the program, Mr. Nwafor was awarded the Postgraduate Diploma in Piping Design.














________________________________________
COURSE-BY-COURSE ANALYSIS
________________________________________
INSTITUTIONS-DATES-SUBJECTS U.S. Semester Credits U.S. Grades
________________________________________

Institute of Management and Technology, Enugu

2003-2004

(L)Mechanics and Properties of Matter 3.0 B+
(L)General and Physical Chemistry 3.0 B+
(L)Introduction to Statistics 2.0 A
(L)Logic and Linear Algebra 2.0 A
(L)Algebra and Trigonometry 2.0 A
(L)Technical Drawing I 3.0 B+
(L)Use of English I 2.0 B+
(L)Computer Appreciation 2.0 A
(L)Basic Chemistry 3.0 B+
(L)Basic Physics 3.0 B+
(L)Introduction to Geometry 3.0 B+
(L)Chemical Engineering Calculations 3.0 A
(L)Mechanical Engineering Lab 2.0 B+
(L)General Laboratory Technology I 2.0 B+
(L)Plant Services and Maintenance 2.0 B+
(L)Citizenship Education 3.0 A
(L)Electrical Engineering Science 3.0 A
(L)Use of English II 2.0 A

2004-2005
(L)Thermodynamics 2.0 A
(L)Unit Operations I 2.0 B+
(L)Mass Transfer I 2.0 A
(L)Heat Transfer I 2.0 A
(L)Fluid and Particle Mechanics I 2.0 A
(L)Chemical Engineering Lab I 3.0 B+
(L)Chemical Engineering Drawing 2.0 A
(L)General Laboratory Technology II 2.0 B+
(L)Technical Drawing II 2.0 B+
(L)Communication in English 2.0 A
(L)Introduction to Chemical Engineering I 2.0 A
(L)Differentiation and Integration 2.0 A
(L)Chemical Engineering Reactions 2.0 A
(L)Unit Operations II 2.0 A
(L)Fuel Technology 2.0 A
(L)Instrumentation and Process Control I 3.0 A
(L)Safety and Environmental Control I 2.0 B+
(L)Chemical Engineering Lab II 3.0 A
(L)Corrosion and Material Science 2.0 A
(L)Introduction to Sociology 2.0 A
(L)Seminar 2.0 A
(L)Project Work 4.0 A

2005-2006

(U)Industrial Attachment ** 0.0 C
(**No credit was indicated on the original transcript)

2006-2007

(U)Advanced Algebra 2.0 A
(U)Advanced Calculus 2.0 A
(U)Laboratory Management 2.0 A
(U)Unit Operations III 2.0 A
(U)Chemical Engineering Lab III 3.0 A
(U)Heat Transfer II 2.0 A
(U)Chemical Engineering Thermodynamics 2.0 B
(U)Mass Transfer II 2.0 A
(U)Statistical Methods 2.0 A
(U)Use of English III 2.0 B+
(U)Computer Programming 3.0 A
(U)Numerical Methods 2.0 A
(U)General Instrumentation II 2.0 B+
(U)Unit Operations IV 2.0 B+
(U)Chemical Engineering Lab IV 3.0 B+
(U)Material Science and Strength of Materials 2.0 B+
(U)Fluid and Particle Mechanics II 2.0 A
(U)Polymer Technology 2.0 B+
(U)Communication in English III 2.0 B+
(U)Introduction to Psychology 3.0 A

2007-2008

(U)Chemical Plant Economics 2.0 B+
(U)Chemical Reaction Engineering I 2.0 B+
(U)Unit Operations V 2.0 A
(U)Process Design 3.0 A
(U)Pilot Plant and Scale Up 2.0 A
(U)Chemical Engineering Lab V 3.0 A
(U)Industrial Management 3.0 A
(U)Food Science and Technology 2.0 A
(U)Pulp and Paper Technology 2.0 A
(U)Process Metallurgy 2.0 A
(U)Unit Operations VI 2.0 A
(U)Equipment Design 2.0 A
(U)Process Control 2.0 A
(U)Plant Service and Maintenance 2.0 B+
(U)Safety and Environmental Control II 2.0 B+
(U)Petrochemical Technology 2.0 A
(U)Biochemical Engineering 2.0 A
(U)Seminar 2.0 B+
(U)Project Work 2.0 B+
(U)Literary Appreciation and Oral Composition 3.0 A
(U)Chemical Instrumentation Control 2.0 A

Maharashtra Institute of Technology, Pune
2011-2012

Post-Secondary
Fluid Handling 4.5 A
Systems Engineering 4.5 B+
Layout Engineering 4.5 B+
Thermal Insulation, Cost of Piping, and Hygienic Piping 4.5 A
Material Specification, Instrumentation and Process Control, and Corrosion 4.5 A
Welding and NDT Management, Statutory Regulations, and Regulatory Acts 4.5 A
Stress Analysis 4.5 A





SUMMARY
Total Non-Accredited Post-Secondary Semester Credits: 31.5 GPA: 3.81
Total Undergraduate Semester Credits: 184.0 GPA: 3.76



Need to order an additional copy, go to http://www.wes.org/apply/xcopy.asp.

________________________________________

WES EVALUATION TERMS
Evaluation Scope: World Education Services (WES) evaluates only formal educational credentials. WES does not evaluate professional experience. WES evaluations are based upon the best information and resources available to professional evaluators. WES evaluations are offered as non-binding advisory opinions.
Accredited Institution: The status of a nationally recognized institution in another country is comparable to that of a regionally accredited institution in the United States.
Credential Authentication: Evaluations prepared by WES specify the manner in which each document was authenticated. The method used depends on what is appropriate for the specific country and level of education. WES authenticates academic records by one of the following methods.
• by requiring that official transcripts be sent to WES directly by the institutions or examination bodies that issued them;
OR
• by requiring that official transcripts be authenticated by the relevant government authority (e.g. Ministry of Education) before being sent directly to WES;
OR
• by verifying documents submitted by individuals by sending them back to the institutions/examination bodies that issued them and obtaining a written confirmation of their authenticity.
Detailed country-by-country document requirements can be viewed at www.wes.org/required/index.asp
Grades/ Quality Points: WES uses an alphabetic system to identify grades. The standard WES conversion of letter grades into a numerical scale/quality points is as follows: A = 4.00; A-=3.67; B+ = 3.33; B = 3.00; B- = 2.67; C+ = 2.33; C = 2.00; C- = 1.67; D+ = 1.33; D = 1.00; F = 0
• “F*” indicates a course that was failed initially, but passed on a subsequent attempt. It is not included in the GPA calculation.
• “Pass” is not included in the Cumulative Grade Point Average. For study completed at the undergraduate level, it corresponds to at least a “C” in the United States. For graduate and professional study, “Pass” corresponds to at least a “B”.
Grade Point Average (GPA) is calculated by multiplying the credits per course by the quality points for the grade for that course, repeating this procedure for each course, totaling the credit hour quality points thus obtained, and dividing by the total number of credits.
Course Level Designation: The designation “U” (upper) or “L” (lower) against a course at the undergraduate level is an indication of its level.
Credit Recognition and Transfer: The course-by-course analysis represents a breakdown of post-secondary study in terms of U.S. semester credits and grade equivalents. The number of credits accepted for transfer to a degree program or towards a professional license in the United States may vary from those listed in this report in accordance with the policies of the receiving educational institution or professional agency.
Evaluations for Professional Licensing/Certification: WES does not assess professional aptitude or experience. Only authorities qualified in the profession can determine whether an individual meets requirements for licensing or to practice the profession in the United States.




Matters Arising from the WES Evaluation:

In the US, a bachelors degree is completed in 4 years and as a BS degree student you are expected to earn/accumulate 120 credit points. But from my WES Evaluation, the combined years of studies for ND & HND is 5 years. From my ND & HND curriculum in Chemical Engineering from IMT Enugu, Nigeria, instead of accumulating just 120 credits, I earned/accumulated 184 credit. (Please bear in mind that in the USA, in an MS degree, you are expected to earn just 36 credits, which if you compare with my ND & HND curriculum, you can see that I earned extra 64 credit more than a BS degree).
Also, in IMT Enugu, my ND CGPA is 3.41/4.00; and HND CGPA is 3.40/4.00. From the overall WES evaluation, my overall CGPA is 3.76/4.00.

So from the foregoing, I think that with all the threads that I have read about HND & BSc dichotomy in Nigeria, I think that if you have graduated with a HND from a Polytechnic or Monotechnic, strive for a US degree, and save yourself of unnecessary anxiety and disrespect from our BS degree counterpart.

Presently, am preparing to apply for an online MS in Engineering from a Nationally accredited university in the USA.

Note: WES Evaluation has made more proud about my HND & ND in Chemical Engineering. I will be monitoring this thread to know your comments and provide further detailed information.

activities:
Guys , what is the best way for one with HND in Nigeria to get his BSc in USA ?

Geenona:
I have read with keen interest most of the comments in here and I find it very interesting, absolutely interesting. My brother is a graduate of Public Administration from IMT Enugu (2009) and he made Upper Credit 3.36, HND. He is currently applying for his MSc program in 2 Universities in Texas. One of the schools require transcript evaluation from Foreign Credentials Services America (FCSA). And this is from the 1st page of his transcript evaluation from FCSA:

Equivalence
Four years of undergraduate study in public administration, plus a one-year
non-credit practicum between years two and three
U.S. Semester Hours / GPA
Undergraduate 141 Hrs / 3.01
Credentials
1 U.S. equivalency Four years of undergraduate study in public
administration, plus a one-year practicum between
years two and three
Country Nigeria
Credential Higher National Diploma
Institution Institute of Management and Technology
Date awarded December 2009
Length of program 5 years, including two-year National Diploma and
one-year non-credit practicum
Documents viewed Photocopy of transcript and diplomas

And this is a note from the second page of his transcript

[b]NOTES
Between the two-year National Diploma and two-year Higher National Diploma, Mr ............ completed a
one-year industrial attachment (practicum) in 2006-07. While the Higher National Diploma represents
four years of study, it is an applied degree and not equivalent to the more theoretical bachelor's

And here is an email my brother got from one of the schools:

Good Morning, xxxxxxx!

We have received all the documentation you mentioned in your email; however, the FCSA evaluation does not indicate that you have a U.S. equivalent Bachelor’s Degree. As a result, you do not meet the requirements for graduate school and your application will not be forwarded to the program. If this is an error, please contact the FCSA.

Should you have any questions, please contact me.

Thank you.

Gerry Dimas
Graduate Admissions Specialist

And this is me writing now: It is absolutely an error for FCSA to append that comment on page 2 of my brother's evaluation even when they have CATEGORICALLY stated on page 1 that the HND is equivalent to a US Bachelor's degree.


Now this is what my brother is doing
1. He has applied to WES to do same transcript evaluation. I will post WES http://www.wes.org/ evaluation report here when he gets it
2. He has contacted FCSA and is asking for explanations and correction of the contradictory statement on page 2 of his Transcript
3. This particular school that requested for FCSA evaluation is now saying they can accept WES evaluation (which is even far far better and more recognized than FCSA)
NB: The reason why he used FCSA in the first place is because this graduate school wanted the evaluation from FCSA otherwise WES is the evaluation services of choice even though it is more expensive: $286 to have transcript evaluation sent to 2 schools.

Take 'aways' from my brother's experience so far:
1. Yes, HND is clearly equivalent to US Bachelors degree and this lends to what a few people have posted here.
2. HND students complete even more credits than Bachelors degree students in Nigeria, they do more academic work!
3. HND students are ABSOLUTELY qualified to apply for Msc programs in the US and I assume anywhere in the world! NB: Admission depends on a lot of factors.
4. Don't take NO for an answer. Always challenge the status quo, ask why, what and clearly present your own facts. DON'T LISTEN TO STREET TALKS, e dey spoil matter

Follow ups:
1. I will post here WES evaluation once it is ready
2. Just incase you are wondering, I am a FUTO Engineering graduate, got my MBA and 2 other degrees from US (I didn't need any transcript evaluations though and this was many yrs back shaa....mgbe enu bu nke nwa osa..... )
NB: I will be watching this post for any questions I can chip in on....
3. I hope this encourages a lot of people out there.......YOU ARE WELL WORTH MORE THAN YOU CAN EVEN IMAGINE, HND OR NOT!! BE DILIGENT AND FOLLOW THE LORD JESUS!!!
4. Here is my brother's FCSA Evaluation:

U.S. Equivalence
Four years of undergraduate study in public administration, plus a one-year
non-credit practicum between years two and three
U.S. Semester Hours / GPA
Undergraduate 141 Hrs / 3.01
Credentials
1 U.S. equivalency Four years of undergraduate study in public
administration, plus a one-year practicum between
years two and three
Country Nigeria
Credential Higher National Diploma
Institution Institute of Management and Technology
Date awarded December 2009
Length of program 5 years, including two-year National Diploma and
one-year non-credit practicum
Documents viewed Photocopy of transcript and diplomas


NOTES
Between the two-year National Diploma and two-year Higher National Diploma, Mr.xxxxxx completed a one-year industrial attachment (practicum) in 2006-07. While the
Higher National Diploma represents four years of study, it is an applied degree and not
equivalent to the more theoretical bachelor's degree in Nigeria and the US. Credits have
been converted to US semester hours.

UNDERGRADUATE
INSTITUTIONS / DATES / SUBJECTS HOURS GRADE
Institute of Management and Technology, 2004-2009
Year 1, National Diploma, 2004-05
Elements of Public Administration I 2.0 B+
Theory of Administration 1.0 B
Elements of Government 2.0 B+
Principles of Economics I 1.0 C
Intro to Sociology 1.0 C
Business Math 2.0 B+
Intro to Psychology 2.0 C+
Principles of Accounting 3.0 C+
Use of English I 1.0 C
General Biology 2.0 C
Citizenship Education 1.0 C+
Nigerian Government & Politics 2.0 C+
Community & Rural Development 2.0 C+
Statistics 3.0 C+
Principles of Law 2.0 B
Elements of Cooperatives 1.0 C+
Local Government Administration 2.0 A
Principles of Marketing 1.0 B
Communication in English I 1.0 C
Intro to Computers 1.0 C+
General Chemistry 2.0 C+
Total : 35.00
Year 2, National Diploma, 2005-06
Use of English II 1.0 C+
Human Resource Management 2.0 C+
Local Government Administration II 2.0 A
Cooperative Development 1.0 B+
Computer Applications 1.0 B
Public Enterprise Management 2.0 C+
Cost Accounting 2.0 C+
Public Finance 2.0 C+
Research Methodology 2.0 B
Nigerian Government & Politics II 2.0 B+
Public Service Rules & Procedures 1.0 A
Intergovernmental Relations 1.0 B+
Project 1.0 B
Social & Economic Development 2.0 A
Entrepreneurship Development 1.0 B
Principles of Marketing II 2.0 B

INSTITUTIONS / DATES / SUBJECTS HOURS GRADE
Nigerian Labor Law 2.0 C
Office Administration & Management 2.0 C+
Auditing 2.0 B
Taxation 2.0 C
Communication in English II 1.0 B+
Communication & National Development 1.0 C
Total : 35.00
Non-credit industrial attachment (practicum), 2006-07
Year 3, Higher National Diploma, 2007-08
Use of English III 1.0 B
Constitutional Law 2.0 B
Intro to Local Government Finance 2.0 B+
Public Finance 3.0 B
Administration Theory I 2.0 B+
Nigerian Government & Administration 2.0 B
General Biology 2.0 C+
Organizational Behavior I 2.0 A
Cooperative Field Administration 2.0 B+
Development Administration 2.0 B+
Statistics 2.0 B
Rural Development & Administration 2.0 B
Administrative Theory II 2.0 C+
Research Methods 2.0 B+
Advanced Local Government Finance 2.0 B+
Small Scale Business Management 2.0 C+
Communication in English III 1.0 B
Organizational Behavior II 2.0 B
Total : 35.00
Year 4, Higher National Diploma, 2008-09
Local Government Administration II 2.0 A
Workshop in Administration 2.0 B+
Development Administration 2.0 B+
Industrial Relations 2.0 A
Public Personnel Management 2.0 B
Public Sector Accounting 3.0 C+
Advanced Computer Programming Packages 2.0 B+
Communication in English IV 1.0 B+
Material Management 2.0 B+
Public Enterprise Management 3.0 A
Project 4.0 B+
Comparative Public Administration 3.0 A

INSTITUTIONS / DATES / SUBJECTS HOURS GRADE
Public Policy Analysis 3.0 A
Comparative Local Government 3.0 A
Literary Appreciation 2.0 B+
Total : 36.00
Undergraduate Total Hours = 141
Undergraduate GPA = 3.01

GNwafor:
Fellow Friends;


Take Time to go through my reply about this thread:

Without mincing words, we cannot claim the ignorance of how the western world respect, honour, accept and revere our dignified Higher National Diploma. Our ND & HND certificate and curriculum is highly acceptable for higher degree admission. For most of the us who are myopic about the curriculum which we covered in our NBTE accredited National Diploma & Higher National Diploma program. It may surprise most of you who will read this thread to know that what you studied in your ND & HND curriculum is far higher than the required credit for a BS degree program.

My Story:

I studied ND & HND Chemical Engineering from IMT Enugu; and a Post Graduate Diploma (PGD) Piping Design & Engineering from MIT Pune India. Believe it or leave it. I apply for credential evaluation to World Education Service (WES) - New York USA in June 16, 2012. WES requested for the Transcripts to be sent directly from the Issuing Institution from Nigeria & India respectively. The Indian School sent their directly and it was honoured. I complete the required documentation for student from Nigeria, but they request for further verification from IMT Enugu Nigeria. IMT Enugu Nigeria, replied to their letter together with another copy of my ND & HND Transcript in the last week of February 2013. Then WES promised me that my evaluation will be ready on 7th March 2013. I guessed because of the weekend, the Evaluation - Course By Course Report from WES actually came out on 11th March 2013.

You will be amazed with what am about to reveal to you from the NBTE accredited curriculum ND & HND Chemical Engineering from IMT Enugu Nigeria.

This is it:

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EVALUATION
Date: March 12, 2013
Ref#: 2347933

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U.S. EQUIVALENCY SUMMARY

Bachelor's degree from a regionally accredited institution




CREDENTIAL ANALYSIS
1 Credential Authentication: Transcripts were verified by the institution
Country: Nigeria
Credential: Higher National Diploma
Year: 2008
Awarded by: Institute of Management and Technology, Enugu
Admission requirements: School Certificate
Length of program: Five years
Major/Specialization: Chemical Engineering
U.S. Equivalency: Bachelor's degree
Remarks: The program included one year of industrial training.

2 Credential Authentication: Official transcripts were sent directly by the institution
Country: India
Credential: Statement of Marks
Year: 2012
Awarded by: Maharashtra Institute of Technology, Pune
Admission requirements: High school graduation
Length of program: One year
Major/Specialization: Design
U.S. Equivalency: One year of post-secondary study
Remarks: Upon completion of the program, Mr. Nwafor was awarded the Postgraduate Diploma in Piping Design.














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COURSE-BY-COURSE ANALYSIS
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INSTITUTIONS-DATES-SUBJECTS U.S. Semester Credits U.S. Grades
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Institute of Management and Technology, Enugu

2003-2004

(L)Mechanics and Properties of Matter 3.0 B+
(L)General and Physical Chemistry 3.0 B+
(L)Introduction to Statistics 2.0 A
(L)Logic and Linear Algebra 2.0 A
(L)Algebra and Trigonometry 2.0 A
(L)Technical Drawing I 3.0 B+
(L)Use of English I 2.0 B+
(L)Computer Appreciation 2.0 A
(L)Basic Chemistry 3.0 B+
(L)Basic Physics 3.0 B+
(L)Introduction to Geometry 3.0 B+
(L)Chemical Engineering Calculations 3.0 A
(L)Mechanical Engineering Lab 2.0 B+
(L)General Laboratory Technology I 2.0 B+
(L)Plant Services and Maintenance 2.0 B+
(L)Citizenship Education 3.0 A
(L)Electrical Engineering Science 3.0 A
(L)Use of English II 2.0 A

2004-2005
(L)Thermodynamics 2.0 A
(L)Unit Operations I 2.0 B+
(L)Mass Transfer I 2.0 A
(L)Heat Transfer I 2.0 A
(L)Fluid and Particle Mechanics I 2.0 A
(L)Chemical Engineering Lab I 3.0 B+
(L)Chemical Engineering Drawing 2.0 A
(L)General Laboratory Technology II 2.0 B+
(L)Technical Drawing II 2.0 B+
(L)Communication in English 2.0 A
(L)Introduction to Chemical Engineering I 2.0 A
(L)Differentiation and Integration 2.0 A
(L)Chemical Engineering Reactions 2.0 A
(L)Unit Operations II 2.0 A
(L)Fuel Technology 2.0 A
(L)Instrumentation and Process Control I 3.0 A
(L)Safety and Environmental Control I 2.0 B+
(L)Chemical Engineering Lab II 3.0 A
(L)Corrosion and Material Science 2.0 A
(L)Introduction to Sociology 2.0 A
(L)Seminar 2.0 A
(L)Project Work 4.0 A

2005-2006

(U)Industrial Attachment ** 0.0 C
(**No credit was indicated on the original transcript)

2006-2007

(U)Advanced Algebra 2.0 A
(U)Advanced Calculus 2.0 A
(U)Laboratory Management 2.0 A
(U)Unit Operations III 2.0 A
(U)Chemical Engineering Lab III 3.0 A
(U)Heat Transfer II 2.0 A
(U)Chemical Engineering Thermodynamics 2.0 B
(U)Mass Transfer II 2.0 A
(U)Statistical Methods 2.0 A
(U)Use of English III 2.0 B+
(U)Computer Programming 3.0 A
(U)Numerical Methods 2.0 A
(U)General Instrumentation II 2.0 B+
(U)Unit Operations IV 2.0 B+
(U)Chemical Engineering Lab IV 3.0 B+
(U)Material Science and Strength of Materials 2.0 B+
(U)Fluid and Particle Mechanics II 2.0 A
(U)Polymer Technology 2.0 B+
(U)Communication in English III 2.0 B+
(U)Introduction to Psychology 3.0 A

2007-2008

(U)Chemical Plant Economics 2.0 B+
(U)Chemical Reaction Engineering I 2.0 B+
(U)Unit Operations V 2.0 A
(U)Process Design 3.0 A
(U)Pilot Plant and Scale Up 2.0 A
(U)Chemical Engineering Lab V 3.0 A
(U)Industrial Management 3.0 A
(U)Food Science and Technology 2.0 A
(U)Pulp and Paper Technology 2.0 A
(U)Process Metallurgy 2.0 A
(U)Unit Operations VI 2.0 A
(U)Equipment Design 2.0 A
(U)Process Control 2.0 A
(U)Plant Service and Maintenance 2.0 B+
(U)Safety and Environmental Control II 2.0 B+
(U)Petrochemical Technology 2.0 A
(U)Biochemical Engineering 2.0 A
(U)Seminar 2.0 B+
(U)Project Work 2.0 B+
(U)Literary Appreciation and Oral Composition 3.0 A
(U)Chemical Instrumentation Control 2.0 A

Maharashtra Institute of Technology, Pune
2011-2012

Post-Secondary
Fluid Handling 4.5 A
Systems Engineering 4.5 B+
Layout Engineering 4.5 B+
Thermal Insulation, Cost of Piping, and Hygienic Piping 4.5 A
Material Specification, Instrumentation and Process Control, and Corrosion 4.5 A
Welding and NDT Management, Statutory Regulations, and Regulatory Acts 4.5 A
Stress Analysis 4.5 A





SUMMARY
Total Non-Accredited Post-Secondary Semester Credits: 31.5 GPA: 3.81
Total Undergraduate Semester Credits: 184.0 GPA: 3.76



Need to order an additional copy, go to http://www.wes.org/apply/xcopy.asp.

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WES EVALUATION TERMS
Evaluation Scope: World Education Services (WES) evaluates only formal educational credentials. WES does not evaluate professional experience. WES evaluations are based upon the best information and resources available to professional evaluators. WES evaluations are offered as non-binding advisory opinions.
Accredited Institution: The status of a nationally recognized institution in another country is comparable to that of a regionally accredited institution in the United States.
Credential Authentication: Evaluations prepared by WES specify the manner in which each document was authenticated. The method used depends on what is appropriate for the specific country and level of education. WES authenticates academic records by one of the following methods.
• by requiring that official transcripts be sent to WES directly by the institutions or examination bodies that issued them;
OR
• by requiring that official transcripts be authenticated by the relevant government authority (e.g. Ministry of Education) before being sent directly to WES;
OR
• by verifying documents submitted by individuals by sending them back to the institutions/examination bodies that issued them and obtaining a written confirmation of their authenticity.
Detailed country-by-country document requirements can be viewed at www.wes.org/required/index.asp
Grades/ Quality Points: WES uses an alphabetic system to identify grades. The standard WES conversion of letter grades into a numerical scale/quality points is as follows: A = 4.00; A-=3.67; B+ = 3.33; B = 3.00; B- = 2.67; C+ = 2.33; C = 2.00; C- = 1.67; D+ = 1.33; D = 1.00; F = 0
• “F*” indicates a course that was failed initially, but passed on a subsequent attempt. It is not included in the GPA calculation.
• “Pass” is not included in the Cumulative Grade Point Average. For study completed at the undergraduate level, it corresponds to at least a “C” in the United States. For graduate and professional study, “Pass” corresponds to at least a “B”.
Grade Point Average (GPA) is calculated by multiplying the credits per course by the quality points for the grade for that course, repeating this procedure for each course, totaling the credit hour quality points thus obtained, and dividing by the total number of credits.
Course Level Designation: The designation “U” (upper) or “L” (lower) against a course at the undergraduate level is an indication of its level.
Credit Recognition and Transfer: The course-by-course analysis represents a breakdown of post-secondary study in terms of U.S. semester credits and grade equivalents. The number of credits accepted for transfer to a degree program or towards a professional license in the United States may vary from those listed in this report in accordance with the policies of the receiving educational institution or professional agency.
Evaluations for Professional Licensing/Certification: WES does not assess professional aptitude or experience. Only authorities qualified in the profession can determine whether an individual meets requirements for licensing or to practice the profession in the United States.




Matters Arising from the WES Evaluation:

In the US, a bachelors degree is completed in 4 years and as a BS degree student you are expected to earn/accumulate 120 credit points. But from my WES Evaluation, the combined years of studies for ND & HND is 5 years. From my ND & HND curriculum in Chemical Engineering from IMT Enugu, Nigeria, instead of accumulating just 120 credits, I earned/accumulated 184 credit. (Please bear in mind that in the USA, in an MS degree, you are expected to earn just 36 credits, which if you compare with my ND & HND curriculum, you can see that I earned extra 64 credit more than a BS degree).
Also, in IMT Enugu, my ND CGPA is 3.41/4.00; and HND CGPA is 3.40/4.00. From the overall WES evaluation, my overall CGPA is 3.76/4.00.

So from the foregoing, I think that with all the threads that I have read about HND & BSc dichotomy in Nigeria, I think that if you have graduated with a HND from a Polytechnic or Monotechnic, strive for a US degree, and save yourself of unnecessary anxiety and disrespect from our BS degree counterpart.

Presently, am preparing to apply for an online MS in Engineering from a Nationally accredited university in the USA.

Note: WES Evaluation has made more proud about my HND & ND in Chemical Engineering. I will be monitoring this thread to know your comments and provide further detailed information.

Bro thanks for your useful information. I'm also an HND graduate and I have evaluated my transcript with ECE another evaluation body in the U.S. Now my question is...with they add up the grades of both N.D and HND together? Cause they did mine separate for both N.D and HND.

ghost87:
Hello everyone,
I have been going through this since 2009, asking questions about the equivalence of HND In US, this and that, but unfortunately I couldn't find a reliable answer, till February 2012, and I thought of sharing it cos I believe other are out there like I was before.

First I would like to start by saying. YES!!!! NIGERIAN HND IS EQUIVALENT TO A US BACHELOR DEGREE. Am sure of what am saying because my HND transcripts (that's both my ND & HND) were evaluated as an American bachelors degree.

I would also like to tell you that working or getting admitted into American colleges is based on American qualifications and grades, so to work or get admission into American colleges, first try and get your certificate, diploma, degree or whatever you hold into American equivalence, and you can do that by sending your transcripts to one of the evaluation agencies, WES (world Education Services) http://www.wes.org/ is accepted by almost all American colleges but you can still find out more at http://www.naces.org/members.htm

For more guidelines on how to get to admission into American College with a HND a brother has helped out on his blog, and you can check it out here http://www.farooqkperogi.com/2009/12/hnd-and-american-universities.html and http://www.farooqkperogi.com/2009/03/looking-at-american-education-with_382.html

I would like to share my experience: I graduated with a HND in Electronics Engineering in 2009 from a Nigerian Federal Polytechnic, and sent my transcript to World Education Services WES on October 2011, I paid $202 for the service, the evaluation is supposed to be completed in 7days once all my documents are received, but we all know our 9ja na, considering the fact that the country was in crises it took me 3months to get my transcript to WES, again early JAN 2012 WES sent back another copy to FED POLY, for verification, and at the time our beloved nation is on strike due to subsidy matter and boko haram wahala, till 1st feb 2012, that's when WES got a feed back and my application became complete, on 8th Feb, 2012, my evaluation was complete.

I graduate in Nigeria with 3.14 out of 4.0 CGPA, which is of course our Upper Credit as we call it. But to my surprise from the evaluation my GPA was high to 3.56 out 4.0, that is based on the American System, moreover, in US they use a system of Credit Hours to determine your qualification, and in other to have a US bachelor degree, you must at-least have a minimum of 120 Credit Hours, but from my evaluation I had 135 Credit Hours, which is almost more-than that of the US. And as am typing this I have already applied to one of the top 15 engineering and technology university in the world for my masters program with a HND, and they have assured me that I would get it, after all am having a 3.56 GPA, and a good GRE score (GRE is an exams u sit for before applying for most graduate programs in US, its just like GMAT).
But still there are some few things you should be aware of, just because your transcripts are equivalent to a US degree, doesn't mean you will not take undergraduate courses, yes you will automatically be enrolled to a masters degree, as far as you meet the requirements, but there are some certain courses that you must take which of course are undergraduate courses, and the reason is because those courses are expected by all American graduates and in other to be one, you must go through it, such courses are like those related to the American policies, government, etc. (I haven't reached that stage, am just telling you based on what the school I applied for feed me too).

So to all those who keep asking, what is the equivalence of HND in US, its equivalent to a BACHELOR DEGREE but you really need to make good grades in your HND before you have something of worth, because I don't think there is any American University that would give you masters program with a minimum of 3.0GPA, U might get a provisional admission with a minimum of 2.5GPA (This is based on my reasoning, and what I have been going through, so just look out, cos I might be wrong)

If you need any proof regarding this, or guidelines don't hesitate to tell me or reply me, I promise i would help if I can, cos few years ago, I was once in the same point.

Cheers!
Please, I also have HND in physics/Electronics(upper Credit) with CGPA of 3.8 out of 5.0. I am also interested in doing my Masters in one of the top Universities in US. Do I also need to send my transcript to SWE or I should just look for any university that is ready to absorb me with my HND? Besides, is it a must for me to write that GRE exam before I could be admitted? Lastly, the SSCE I'm currently using is NECO, can i apply with it without doing any A Level exam? An early response shall be highly appreciated. Thnks.

ghost87:
Hello everyone,
I have been going through this since 2009, asking questions about the equivalence of HND In US, this and that, but unfortunately I couldn't find a reliable answer, till February 2012, and I thought of sharing it cos I believe other are out there like I was before.

First I would like to start by saying. YES!!!! NIGERIAN HND IS EQUIVALENT TO A US BACHELOR DEGREE. Am sure of what am saying because my HND transcripts (that's both my ND & HND) were evaluated as an American bachelors degree.

I would also like to tell you that working or getting admitted into American colleges is based on American qualifications and grades, so to work or get admission into American colleges, first try and get your certificate, diploma, degree or whatever you hold into American equivalence, and you can do that by sending your transcripts to one of the evaluation agencies, WES (world Education Services) http://www.wes.org/ is accepted by almost all American colleges but you can still find out more at http://www.naces.org/members.htm

For more guidelines on how to get to admission into American College with a HND a brother has helped out on his blog, and you can check it out here http://www.farooqkperogi.com/2009/12/hnd-and-american-universities.html and http://www.farooqkperogi.com/2009/03/looking-at-american-education-with_382.html

I would like to share my experience: I graduated with a HND in Electronics Engineering in 2009 from a Nigerian Federal Polytechnic, and sent my transcript to World Education Services WES on October 2011, I paid $202 for the service, the evaluation is supposed to be completed in 7days once all my documents are received, but we all know our 9ja na, considering the fact that the country was in crises it took me 3months to get my transcript to WES, again early JAN 2012 WES sent back another copy to FED POLY, for verification, and at the time our beloved nation is on strike due to subsidy matter and boko haram wahala, till 1st feb 2012, that's when WES got a feed back and my application became complete, on 8th Feb, 2012, my evaluation was complete.

I graduate in Nigeria with 3.14 out of 4.0 CGPA, which is of course our Upper Credit as we call it. But to my surprise from the evaluation my GPA was high to 3.56 out 4.0, that is based on the American System, moreover, in US they use a system of Credit Hours to determine your qualification, and in other to have a US bachelor degree, you must at-least have a minimum of 120 Credit Hours, but from my evaluation I had 135 Credit Hours, which is almost more-than that of the US. And as am typing this I have already applied to one of the top 15 engineering and technology university in the world for my masters program with a HND, and they have assured me that I would get it, after all am having a 3.56 GPA, and a good GRE score (GRE is an exams u sit for before applying for most graduate programs in US, its just like GMAT).
But still there are some few things you should be aware of, just because your transcripts are equivalent to a US degree, doesn't mean you will not take undergraduate courses, yes you will automatically be enrolled to a masters degree, as far as you meet the requirements, but there are some certain courses that you must take which of course are undergraduate courses, and the reason is because those courses are expected by all American graduates and in other to be one, you must go through it, such courses are like those related to the American policies, government, etc. (I haven't reached that stage, am just telling you based on what the school I applied for feed me too).

So to all those who keep asking, what is the equivalence of HND in US, its equivalent to a BACHELOR DEGREE but you really need to make good grades in your HND before you have something of worth, because I don't think there is any American University that would give you masters program with a minimum of 3.0GPA, U might get a provisional admission with a minimum of 2.5GPA (This is based on my reasoning, and what I have been going through, so just look out, cos I might be wrong)

If you need any proof regarding this, or guidelines don't hesitate to tell me or reply me, I promise i would help if I can, cos few years ago, I was once in the same point.

Cheers!

jimnet:
Has anyone done certificate evaluation recently (in the last 2 months) and his/her HND certificate was evaluated to Bachelor's Degree in USA? If 'yes', please let me know which evaluating company used.
The US immigration denied me I-94 (TN work permit) this week because the officer was not convinced my 2 diplomas (OND and HND) should be equivalent to BSc (I had been using this same evaluation result for 10 years before now). He wants me to re-evaluate with a member of NACES body which has WES and ECE as members because there is a directive last year that makes my evaluation result no longer acceptable and the company that did the evaluation in 2007 is not a member of NACES. I graduated with HND (Lower Credit) in Civil Engineering from The Polytechnic Ibadan in 1991.