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Re: Regional Poverty In Nigeria- North, South-West Worse Hit by AloyEmeka6: 2:02am On Dec 27, 2009 |
Igwe-1: The Median is a better measure of central tendency than the mean because of the effect of outliers. |
Re: Regional Poverty In Nigeria- North, South-West Worse Hit by olafolarin(m): 2:40am On Dec 27, 2009 |
triaophant: You are off the mark. Awolowo never confiscated any money owned by he easterners.Awolowo initiated a reformed taxing system in SW which ensures that everybody pays tax no matter your level in the society.Most successful was the tenement rate through which the SW generated tremendous revenue to finance the Premier uNIVERSITY In Ibadan and other projecvts.may i also remind you that SW generated tremendous revenue from cocoa exports which it used to develop the region.The structures are still therte today and the oil dollars cant even match the cocoa cents. |
Re: Regional Poverty In Nigeria- North, South-West Worse Hit by mekusxxx: 2:52am On Dec 27, 2009 |
olafolarin: Why do you guys like to peddle lies? Awo was never involved with the establishment/financing of U.I . He did what you said for OAU and UniLag. This is internet age and any lies you tell will be proven in one minute. Stop spreading lies and making others see your people as liars and false claimants. |
Re: Regional Poverty In Nigeria- North, South-West Worse Hit by THEAMAKA1: 4:08am On Dec 27, 2009 |
jobless jargons. ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Regional Poverty In Nigeria- North, South-West Worse Hit by Ellyptical: 4:41am On Dec 27, 2009 |
L+G, All those who say that mass migration is an explanation for the low poverty levels in the east need to have a rethink. The south-easterners constitute the highest number of enterpreneurs in Lagos state. The transaction value generated from the Internanational Trade centre, Alaba and Computer village is valued at over a billion a day. What then about the large scale enterprenuers like Coscharis Motors, ABC Transport, Ekene, Ibeto group, Innosson, Ogbuawa? Have you ever wondered about the fact that on the list of the top 10 richest nigerians, there is hardly any Igbo person? That tells you that we have distributed wealth. A sign synonymous with a good economy. In the east, everyone is at least comfortable. It has been seen that the south east actually contributes to the below-50% poverty rate in the south west. If the south easterners in the south west were to pull out their investments in the west and return it to the east, the poverty level in the east will fall below 20% and the South-West will join their northern brothers in above-50% poverty rates. The south east actually helps the west stay afloat. Food for thought. |
Re: Regional Poverty In Nigeria- North, South-West Worse Hit by mekusxxx: 5:02am On Dec 27, 2009 |
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Re: Regional Poverty In Nigeria- North, South-West Worse Hit by Nobody: 7:05am On Dec 27, 2009 |
but please dont bring kidnapping to the south-west, we dont have to match your riches as long we are living in peace, Fools. |
Re: Regional Poverty In Nigeria- North, South-West Worse Hit by AloyEmeka6: 7:13am On Dec 27, 2009 |
shellboy: You live in peace with the spate of political assassinations trailing 2011 elections in the SW? |
Re: Regional Poverty In Nigeria- North, South-West Worse Hit by metalgong5(m): 7:15am On Dec 27, 2009 |
shellboy: Also you animals should not bring suicide bombing and terrorism to the South-East . . . Just within one week, a yoruba man tried to bomb a Lagos tower and a Hausa man tried to bomb an international passenger plane. Please just limit all the terrorist acts and political assasinations in your poverty laddened regions. |
Re: Regional Poverty In Nigeria- North, South-West Worse Hit by Nobody: 7:36am On Dec 27, 2009 |
[s]You live in peace with the spate of political assassinations trailing 2011 elections in the SW?[/s] and we are already having dramas coming out of the south east . |
Re: Regional Poverty In Nigeria- North, South-West Worse Hit by Nobody: 7:41am On Dec 27, 2009 |
[s] Also you animals should not bring suicide bombing and terrorism to the South-East . . . Just within one week, a yoruba man tried to bomb a Lagos tower and a Hausa man tried to bomb an international passenger plane. Please just limit all the terrorist acts and political assasinations in your poverty laddened regions.[/s] I have heard more bombing coming from the south east of nigeria in my entire life. and who's an ibo man to claim innocence of any kind when it comes to marring the image of nigeria? Many politicians, especially members of the House of Representatives from the South-East geo-political zone avoided their constituencies during the Christmas holiday due to fear of insecurity, SUNDAY PUNCH investigations have shown. Findings showed that some of the lawmakers expressed fears that they might be kidnapped, or attacked by armed robbers and other assailants, while others who indeed visited home invested heavily in security. |
Re: Regional Poverty In Nigeria- North, South-West Worse Hit by ikenwan: 7:56am On Dec 27, 2009 |
It is without a doubt that the average Northerner lives in poverty. However, when considering the fact of the North's forty-nine year rule of this country, you have to ask how this level of poverty has become so endemic in Northern Nigeria. The answer? Simple: it is the by product of the corruption of the country's political system, a system opposed upon ordinary Nigerians (both Northern and Southern) by Northern elites vying to retain power. Someone already argued that there was no direct tie-in between infrastructural development and economic development. You have to be aware that while this statement is true for Nigeria and much of the developing world, it is generally false for most Western and developed states because infrastructural development generally correlates to the utilization of economic advantages. Where you see the inverse, like you do in Northern Nigeria, this is more than likely caused by a stratification of the country's socio-economic classes. An ultra-elite class develops their surroundings to match their sybaritic mansions, builds towers to house their businesses, then more civil infrastructures like bridges and highways to connect them, electricity to power them, and running water. But once you fall out of the care zone, all you see is miles upon miles of poverty. Because most of the country's elites live in the North, you don't see this type of beautification process in the South as much, so most Southerners live in abject conditions, and squalor and sprawl appears in urban areas. You can't even count on local politicians to help ease the situation because they are emasculated by the political system which just recycles the same old politicians (PDP has their own constitution to run the country by because no other party can challenge them. Nigeria's constitution = garbage). Who would ever want to lose oil money? But let's face it: the South East is Nigeria's lifeline. The crippling loss of infrastructure following the Nigerian-Biafran War created a survival-of-the-fittest situation where the citizenry of South East Nigeria had to work to survive, simply because they had no other choice. Entrepreneuring spirits built businesses that boomed in local markets, conducted trade and especially developed in the arts & craft sector. But this did not create general wealth in the East, it just created a form of decentralized stability that did nothing to hide the abject living conditions of the people. Those in the margins resorted to armed-robbery and extortion to survive, thus the rise in Nigeria's kidnapping culture. Subsequently, Easterners, shunning the North, moved Westward, primarily to Lagos to where there was some form of infrastructure, indirectly strengthening the local economy. If you were to remove South Eastern businesses, you will have nothing, and you can dispute me if I'm wrong (oh, and oil is Southern too). What Nigeria needs is a new political movement, and it needs it badly. The survival of our people depends on it. |
Re: Regional Poverty In Nigeria- North, South-West Worse Hit by asoderock(m): 9:33am On Dec 27, 2009 |
That the north is more developed infrastructurally, is true. This can easily be explained by the kind of tribal politics at play in the country-The North has virtually been in power since independent. But what is unfortunate is that the North has failed to eploit this infrastructural development and translate it to economic development, hence the high poverty index. The main question though should be what is the way forwad? instead of engaging in endless bickering and comparism. The world is passing us by. |
Re: Regional Poverty In Nigeria- North, South-West Worse Hit by farochron(m): 11:13am On Dec 27, 2009 |
It is smple, if the south east is helping the southwest and they are the one keeping them afloat then they should have been able to stand alone. Let the south east pull out of the southwest at least go home and improve their region to prove other regions wrong. |
Re: Regional Poverty In Nigeria- North, South-West Worse Hit by Cohomology: 11:15am On Dec 27, 2009 |
Hmmm, this is interesting. I'm glad that the South East is doing very well. Ka anyi kele chukwu. 1 Like |
Re: Regional Poverty In Nigeria- North, South-West Worse Hit by orgy: 11:34am On Dec 27, 2009 |
This discussion is getting very heated, we should forget the issue of pulling out here. It was this pull out issue that resulted to war; Biafra should not pull out of naija. As the Nigeria economy is today, when it comes to pulling out, SE will survive comfortably and if SS pulls out also, the remaining Naija part is daed. But lets focus on how to build up Naija's economy and redistribute our wealth. , Though a Biafran, I strongly believe in one peaceful and progressive Nigeria. |
Re: Regional Poverty In Nigeria- North, South-West Worse Hit by farochron(m): 11:51am On Dec 27, 2009 |
All those who come here to glorify their tribal descents are just as premature as many Nigerians. Who told you any of the three tribe can stand alone. From my observation none can. The Southwesterners are too wise for themselves. Trying to outdo or pull their own down. They don't see anything good in whatever their kinsmen do. There is high level jealousy killing them. The South east are as disunited as a falling nation. When election time comes instead of them to bring 5 or 6 representative to represent them they will share all the votes among hundreds and concede defeat to the other regions. The south-south are as lazy as any other thing. Give them the whole oil they are clamouring for and I tell you they will finish themselves in less than a year. The Northerners do not even know what to do with the resources. Give them all the resources and come back in 100 years, the best they can do is to give it back to you the way you gave it. So tell me which of these can stand alone. These regions now have one Satan in common. They are all tribalist Forget it! Nigeria can only survive when you bring together the good sides of these various regions and begin to harness means to end their various weakness. |
Re: Regional Poverty In Nigeria- North, South-West Worse Hit by Justcash(m): 12:35pm On Dec 27, 2009 |
LMAO! It is true na. Very undisputable. But then We are all Nigerians ![]() ![]() All We are saying, give us good leadership!!! ![]() |
Re: Regional Poverty In Nigeria- North, South-West Worse Hit by PapaBrowne(m): 12:52pm On Dec 27, 2009 |
I have always known that the south west is the major contributor to Nigeria's poverty after the Northern states. First there is no wealthy city in the south west apart from Lagos. Lagos is populated by large numbers of successful people from the south east and south south. On the other hand, the south east has Onitsha, Enugu, Aba and Owerri. The South South has Port Harcourt Calabar, Benin and Warri. These are cities with far larger economies than all the cities in the southwest except Lagos and Ibadan. |
Re: Regional Poverty In Nigeria- North, South-West Worse Hit by mekusxxx: 1:00pm On Dec 27, 2009 |
Tribal attacks on Igbo mostly unprovoked will always attract a consequence Folks: There has been a spate of complaints about tribalism here without those who make the complaints addressing the underlying factors. In many cases, people with Yoruba ideology have said horrible and clearly tribally-motivated things against others even when completely unprovoked. Those who seek equity must come with clean hands and the earlier this is done the better. There is always a trend of harmless, informative posts being turned into avenues to incite hatefulness and expose all the biliousness which people have piled up. There are tons of example but please go through these two threads carefully and see how some of these things emanate. The funny thing is that those who complain about tribalism from others see some of these things and choose to overlook them, only to turn round and complain when they are hit back. For every action, there is an equal but opposite reaction and many people in here are mere wolves in sheep’s clothings. The art of equating a single individual (under discussion) to whole peoples is another ignorant or mischievious tendency that is very unhelpful in a political setting such as this. Many Yoruba are culprits in this regard https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-371471.0.html https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-371485.0.html Instigating a ban on anyone will not solve the retaliations. Those who incite the tribal sentiments must stop, then the retaliations will also stop. |
Re: Regional Poverty In Nigeria- North, South-West Worse Hit by Daji31: 1:26pm On Dec 27, 2009 |
Hmmmmmm A replica of the typical Nigerian society. Full of sentiments that may really not matter but all useful energies are exhausted on them. A unique society indeed! |
Re: Regional Poverty In Nigeria- North, South-West Worse Hit by obstead200(m): 1:38pm On Dec 27, 2009 |
GBAM!! I wish to assume that this report was made taken into full consideration, not demographic distribution of the population, but ethnic distribution. by this , i mean that south-easterners, no matter where they are located, were fuuly taken into consideration in arriving at the above conclusion. this renders the above arguement therefore invalid. by the way, i agree with the fact that most of the wealth of easterners, (in particular real estate)n are not located in there homeland. |
Re: Regional Poverty In Nigeria- North, South-West Worse Hit by hardywaltz(m): 2:37pm On Dec 27, 2009 |
by the way, i agree with the fact that most of the wealth of easterners, (in particular real estate)n are not located in there homeland. That is a very very wrong statement. There is an unwritten wrote amongst Igbos to first build a mansion at home first, before building in any other part of the country(lessons from the civil war), so if you see an Igbo man building Estates in Lagos, Port Harcourt or Abuja, then know he has already put up a state of the art building at home. A typical example is shown by all transport companies owned by easterners always follow Onisha, Nnewi or Owerri coz that is thier Head offices. When you speak of development in the south east, its coz no matter where the Igbos are their first point of call in expenditure wise is at home. Half of the roads in my village were constructed by Individuals, this years end of year meeting is all about development achieved by the town union (electricity, hospitals, schools, markets etc)and next year's target milestones. I have had the privilege of trans versing this country, if you really really want to see poverty and hunger clustered together, try the Southwest. |
Re: Regional Poverty In Nigeria- North, South-West Worse Hit by mansmith(m): 2:45pm On Dec 27, 2009 |
so how do we tackle the poverty i think that should be the issue |
Re: Regional Poverty In Nigeria- North, South-West Worse Hit by ikenwan: 3:23pm On Dec 27, 2009 |
man smith: And that is the question. We need to address the inefficiencies of the South's politicians and anti-corruption institutions. There is too much single-mindedness at play in the politics of the Southern Regions. What we need is a union of the Souths political will, structure, and from there on, the setting of plans and goals (such as tackling poverty, crime, building critical infrastructures, etc) and not just the description of our problems. The government needs effective oversight committees and a real shake-up of Abuja's political landscape to make them understand that maybe they should start to listen to all of their people. |
Re: Regional Poverty In Nigeria- North, South-West Worse Hit by revenge(m): 4:23pm On Dec 27, 2009 |
What Dont wention Onitsha,Aba.those town are worst and i keep wondering igbo people cant farm,all of them are outside their homeland doing all sort of job,the poverty in the east is due to corruption. I respect the Tiv,idoma,igalas,for feeding their next door brother with food. Hey men you see again the south south people no go gree let us hear word including the easterners.they are blind rich.money miss road |
Re: Regional Poverty In Nigeria- North, South-West Worse Hit by ezeagu(m): 4:40pm On Dec 27, 2009 |
revenge: They may be "worst", but at least people are there making money while you're on the internet hating. revenge: ![]() revenge: It may seem like "all" of them are outside their homeland because their the most populous ethnic group. revenge: ![]() |
Re: Regional Poverty In Nigeria- North, South-West Worse Hit by THEAMAKA1: 5:18pm On Dec 27, 2009 |
why are people always hating on the igbo man? why cant he be free to make his money where he pleases? people go to lagos because its the commercial capital. for example: if there is a lot of money to be made in Los Angeles and people wanna move down there, dont they have the right? has it now become a crime to leave your homeland in search of work? what is the matter with you people?! ![]() ![]() so someone that lives in Texas cannot go to California to work or someone from Florida cannot go to New York for work because its not their homeland?? cause thats what it seems like from some of the comments here. shior, some people sef. [size=20pt]NIGERIA IS STILL A COUNTRY WHERE ANYONE CAN GO TO ANY PLACE THEY LIKE. SO STOP HATING.[/size] |
Re: Regional Poverty In Nigeria- North, South-West Worse Hit by gidson12(m): 5:55pm On Dec 27, 2009 |
D ibos are makin it both at home and in lagos, most of d importer are at onisha, aba and nnewi, so it doesn't mean that lagos is d all n all, if d FG can dredge d river niger and put a port in onisha, i tell u east would b d biggest commercial hub in nigeria |
Re: Regional Poverty In Nigeria- North, South-West Worse Hit by THEAMAKA1: 5:56pm On Dec 27, 2009 |
^^^ you're cute. ![]() |
Re: Regional Poverty In Nigeria- North, South-West Worse Hit by kosovo(m): 5:57pm On Dec 27, 2009 |
THE.AMAKA: ![]() |
Re: Regional Poverty In Nigeria- North, South-West Worse Hit by THEAMAKA1: 5:59pm On Dec 27, 2009 |
kosovo:yes? lol |
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