adepeter26:
Any biblical verse to support the claim that its absurd for a female pastor to officiate wedding?



This is why religion is 101% scam. Remodifications

go-to first Corinthians 11vs 1 to end. You will see the position of women in the church.

chukagora:
go-to first Corinthians 11vs 1 to end. You will see the position of women in the church.

That thing is too much.....

Give me the exact chapter with verse

Marriages that were officiated by male pastors also fail so what difference would that of a female pastor make? Besides we should understand that there's a fine line between religion and culture. The bible is centered around the Jewish culture which does not give room for women in her society

femi4:
In Christendom, no separation of gender in whom God uses. E.g Deborah was a judge, a prophetess and also a wife

1 Corinthians 14:33-35 for God is not a God of confusion but of peace, as in all the churches of the saints. 34 Let the women keep silent in the churches; for they are not permitted to speak, but let them subject themselves, just as the Law also says. 35 And if they desire to learn anything, let them ask their own husbands at home; for it is improper for a woman to speak in church.

NO GOD IS NOT A GOD OF CON CONFUSION BUT XTIANS ARE PEOPLE OF CONFUSION
1 Corinthians 14:33-35 for God is not a God of confusion but of peace, as in all the churches of the saints. 34 Let the women keep silent in the churches; for they are not permitted to speak, but let them subject themselves, just as the Law also says. 35 And if they desire to learn anything, let them ask their own husbands at home; for it is improper for a woman to speak in church.

1 Timothy 2:12
12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man;[ a ] she must be quiet.

Shafiiimran99:
1 Corinthians 14:33-35 for God is not a God of confusion but of peace, as in all the churches of the saints. 34 Let the women keep silent in the churches; for they are not permitted to speak, but let them subject themselves, just as the Law also says. 35 And if they desire to learn anything, let them ask their own husbands at home; for it is improper for a woman to speak in church.

This is a specific instruction to the Church of Corinth during prophecy. Its not a general instruction, intact you won't find it else where. Its only during prophecy that you can have chaos where two or more people prophecy at the same time.

The scripture below shows that a woman can prophesy

1Cor 11:5
5 but every wife who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head, since it is the same as if her head were shaven.


Let's stop quoting scriptures out of context.

femi4:
This is a specific instruction to the Church of Corinth during prophecy. Its not a general instruction, intact you won't find it else where. Its only during prophecy that you can have chaos where two or more people prophecy at the same time.

The scripture below shows that a woman can prophesy

1Cor 11:5
5 but every wife who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head, since it is the same as if her head were shaven.


Let's stop quoting scriptures out of context.

What about 1 Timothy 2:12 that didn't permit women to teach in church

Shafiiimran99:
What about 1 Timothy 2:12 that didn't permit women to teach in church

You should understand when Paul is giving his own opinion and when he is giving commanding instruction from God.

"I do not"

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femi4:
You should understand when Paul is giving his own opinion and when he is giving commanding instruction from God.

"I do not"

But he did inspired by God according to Bible

ONWARDBABA:
the church weddings an argument broke out that its not biblical and spiritual to be conducted by female pastors but only male pastors.

please let the theologians and bible scholars bring their intellectual knowledge into this

God bless you all

In the first place, There is nothing like "CHURCH WEDDING" in the Bible... Marriage is between two Families, where they meet they discuss the terms (Native Law and Custom) and after that they Bless the Marriage in their place of worship.

odimbannamdi:
If we had female prophets and judges in the days of old, i see why not

Tell me any dt officiated wedding ceremony backed then

its like a woman ordaining a deacon priest
absurd!!

Christians and quoting scriptures wrongly. Even the whites that brought the Christianity to you have female pastors. Iranu abasha

I swear Nigerians are mentally chained! Religious slavery men! Did Jesus specifically ban women from performing religious tasks? In the culture of that day, women were subdued. After all, Isreal is part of the Arab world, that's why you still have some of these shared cultures in the Arabian countries.

The corinthians verse you people are quoting was in response to a single church in Corinth. Obviously before then, you had women who acted in official capacities in the church. Women who prophesied and saw visions, etc

That instruction was a temporary remedy for the problem in the church as at that time. It was not a general prescription.


Paul was giving an opinion in his letter to Timothy. I'm sure if Paul was a contemporary today, his views some of these things may alter slightly.


But since Nigerian culture segregates woman to the background, the lesser being , etc, I'm not surprised that there are people fighting tooth and nail to maintain this chauvinistic view. They'll be those kind of men who insist that the woman's only job is to cook and bear children.

May God open your eyes and brain . That's why Africa will never develop. Landlocked religious mumbo jumbo.

ONWARDBABA:
the church weddings an argument broke out that its not biblical and spiritual to be conducted by female pastors but only male pastors.

please let the theologians and bible scholars bring their intellectual knowledge into this

God bless you all

There are 5 callings in the bible.

Apostles, Prophets, Evangelists, Teachers and Pastors.

Paul commanded that women should never serve as Pastors in the first place. A woman should not teach men in the house of God. She should ask her husband questions at home during pastors meetings.

Make i quote ?

Naughtysite:


There are 5 callings in the bible.

Apostles, Prophets, Evangelists, Teachers and Pastors.

Paul commanded that women should never serve as Pastors in the first place. A woman should not teach men in the house of God. She should ask her husband questions at home during pastors meetings.

Make i quote ?

Is Paul the founder of Christianity or Jesus?

Quote let's hear you.

dossylvanus:


Is Paul the founder of Christianity or Jesus?

Quote let's hear you.

1 Corinthians 14 : 34-35

But Jesus used him to write 14 books of the bible.

Naughtysite:

1 Corinthians 14 : 34-35
But Jesus used him to write 14 books of the bible.

Lol

In 1 Corinthians 14:34-35 , Paul wrote: “As in all the congregations of the saints, women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says. If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church” (vv. 33-35). If we take this literally, it would mean that women are not allowed to sing in church nor respond when the pastor asks for comments or questions from the audience. Moreover, it would contradict what Paul said in chapter 11, where he said that women could pray and prophesy in church if they had the appropriate attire. Common sense, church custom, and good principles of biblical interpretation all say that we should not take these verses literally—and almost no one does. Paul is not making a blanket prohibition that says that women can never speak in church. Rather, he was addressing his comments to a certain situation, and his comments are limited in some way.

It should be recalled that Paul has already indicated in this letter—1 Corinthians—that women did participate in prayer and prophecy with the authority in the church (1 Corinthians 11:5, 10; 14:3–5). This fact alone shows that 1 Corinthians 14:34–35 cannot be a general, absolute, and timeless prohibition on women speaking in church. It was common at one time to “dismiss” the evidence of 1 Corinthians 11:5, 10 (and a few would still argue this position). It was suggested that 1 Corinthians 11:2–16 did not refer to a meeting of the church but only to a private non-church gathering. The whole context of 1 Corinthians 11:2–14:40, the argument of 1 Corinthians 11:16, and the parallel between 1 Corinthians 11:2 and 11:17 make such an idea most untenable. Some have even suggested that 1 Corinthians 11:5 was only hypothetical, but such an approach is clearly an argument of desperation. The silence enjoined in 1 Corinthians 14:34–35 must be a specific, limited silence. Numerous suggestions have been offered, but only the major alternatives can be reviewed here (some scholars, with slight evidence, have also suggested either that 1 Corinthians 14:34–35 was not written by Paul but was inserted by a copyist or that it is a question from Paul’s opponents in Corinth which Paul denounces in 1 Corinthians 14:36). One view is that the speaking prohibited here is mere babbling. There is, however, nothing specific in the context to support this meaning of “speak,” and such nonsense would certainly have been prohibited to all persons in the worship Paul described. Another view suggests that the speaking prohibited is speaking in tongues (glossolalia ) since that is frequently mentioned in the preceding context (1 Corinthians 14). However, glossolalia is always referred to as “tongues” or “speaking in tongues” and never simply as speaking. Probably the most popular view today among those who oppose women speaking with authority in the church is to identify the speaking prohibited with the judgment of the prophets mentioned in 1 Corinthians 14:29. Thus, it is argued that women may prophesy (1 Corinthians 11:5) but may not judge or evaluate prophecy. The evaluation of prophecy is seen as the truly authoritative level of speech in the church from which women are to be excluded. This view has two major difficulties. First, the word “speak” in 1 Corinthians 14:34 has no implication within the word itself or in its immediate context (14:34–35) to support identifying it with the concept of prophetic evaluation. Second, the idea of two levels of speech in the church—prophecy and the judgment of prophecy— with the understanding that one is higher than the other and is for men only has no clear or implied support elsewhere in Paul. In fact, Paul’s own definition and defense of prophecy (1 Corinthians 14:1–25) implies directly that prophecy itself is authoritative speech of the highest level in the church. The view that seems best to me is to understand the speaking prohibited here to women to refer only to disruptive questions that wives (usually uneducated in the culture of Paul’s time) were asking their husbands. This corresponds precisely with the resolution Paul offers (1 Corinthians 14:35): “if they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home. . . .” Such disruptive questioning was also considered a disgrace in Paul’s day in which it was widely believed that it was morally indiscreet for any wife to say anything on any subject in public. This view of disruptive questioning also fits well the specific context (1 Corinthians 14:26–40) in which Paul is concerned about appropriateness and order, which permit genuine edification (note that 1 Corinthians 14:26 expects everyone to participate). Thus, there are actually three injunctions to silence (1 Corinthians 14:28, 30, 34), although many Bible translations use “silent” only in 1 Corinthians 14:34.

Make una dey turn Christianity upside down. Christianity in Africa is practiced without common sense and critical thinking. That's why pastors get away with many atrocities.

First Timothy 2:8–15 is the paragraph in the New Testament that provides the injunctions (2:11–12) most often cited as conclusive by those who oppose preaching, teaching, and leadership ministries for women in the church. It is inappropriate, however, to isolate verses 11–12 from the immediate context of 1 Timothy 2:8–15. If any of the paragraph is perceived as culturally bound (as 2:8–10 often is) or as especially difficult in terms of Pauline theology (as 2:15 often is), it must be realized that these same issues must be confronted in understanding 2:11–14. It should also be observed that 1 Timothy 2:11–12 is a general prohibition on teaching and authority exercised by women. It is not directed to only a certain level of persons (such as “ordained” in distinction from “non- ordained” or “pastors” as distinct from “missionaries”). Further, it is not limited to only certain styles of teaching (“preaching” as distinct from “sharing,” seminary teaching, or writing theological books). In other words, if 1 Timothy 2:11–12 were a transcultural, absolute prohibition on women teaching and exercising authority in the church, then it prohibits all such activity. The word in verses 11 and 12 often translated as “in quietness” (11) and “silent” (12) is identical in Greek. The same term is used by Paul in 2 Thessalonians 3:12, which the NIV translates as “settle down.” The point is that this term, which is often assumed to mean only “verbal silence,” is better understood as an indication of proper order or acceptance of normal practice. The term translated “to have authority” ( authentein) occurs only here in the New Testament and was rarely used in the Greek language. It is not the usual word for positive, active authority. Rather, it is a negative term, which refers to the usurpation and abuse of authority. Thus, the prohibition (2:11–12) is against some abusive activity, but not against the appropriate exercise of teaching and authority in the church. The clue to the abuse implied is found within the heretical activity outlined in 1–2 Timothy. The heretics evidently had a deviant approach to sexuality (1 Timothy 4:3; 5:11–15) and a particular focus on deluding women, who were generally uneducated (2 Timothy 3:6–7). The injunctions are supported with selective Genesis arguments (1 Timothy 2:13–14), using Genesis 2 rather than Genesis 1 (2:13) and the fact of Eve’s deception (2:14, see the use of this in 2 Corinthians 11:3 for male heretics). The function of the Genesis argument is parallel to its use in 1 Corinthians 11:7–9 where it is employed to argue that women must have their heads covered in prayer and prophecy. In both cases scriptural argument is employed to buttress a localized, limited instruction. The concluding word of hope for women (1 Timothy 2:15) is an affirmation of the role of bearing and nurturing children, a role considered as the only appropriate one by many in the culture who believed women incapable of other roles as well. This conclusion (2:15) is parallel in thrust to 1 Timothy 5:3–16 and Titus 2:3–5, both of which are concerned with specific cultural expectations.

dossylvanus:


Lol


In 1 Corinthians 14:34-35 , Paul wrote: “As in all the
congregations of the saints, women should remain silent
in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must
be in submission, as the Law says. If they want to
inquire about something, they should ask their own
husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to
speak in the church” (vv. 33-35).
If we take this literally, it would mean that women are
not allowed to sing in church nor respond when the
pastor asks for comments or questions from the
audience. Moreover, it would contradict what Paul said in
chapter 11, where he said that women could pray and
prophesy in church if they had the appropriate attire.
Common sense, church custom, and good principles of
biblical interpretation all say that we should not take
these verses literally—and almost no one does. Paul is
not making a blanket prohibition that says that women
can never speak in church. Rather, he was addressing
his comments to a certain situation, and his comments
are limited in some way.

I responded to someone who quoted my earlier statement.

And i stated.

" There are 5 callings in the bible, Apostles, Prophets, Evangelists, Pastors and Teachers. Women are not permitted to be Pastors. "

He wanted to know why. So i gave him 1 Cor 14 : 34 and 35.

There was definitely an issue in the Corinthian church which made Paul to issue those warnings..

There are female Prophets, Teachers and Evangelists. Of course, they speak in church... But under authorithy..

Na football match? Officiate ke

adepeter26:

That thing is too much.....

Give me the exact chapter with verse

read vs 10 to 15

argon500:


I am not understanding your message

Use four figure table I beg

geekybabe:

Because there was no female among d 12 named disciples does not mean there were no female disciples. Jesus had d 12, then d 70, den d 500.
Martha and Mary were disciples of Jesus. And many others. All dis female pastor talk is just because of wrong doctrines in churches. If you are a christian, you can be a pastor whether male or female.
In d bible days there was Esther, she 'pastored' her people and led them to pray for their victory from Wicked Haman. And there was Deborah. The wife of Lapidoth. She led israel to war. A fervent woman of valour and strenght.

Bet u dont know about Katherine kulman. Or Joyce meyers, or juanita bynum and many others whom God has used and still uses to bless lives in our world today

You pple should better stop judging or denying yourself of blessings because a woman is the pastor. God is bigger than your myopic thinking and will only use pple who are available for his use, whether they are female or male.

Cc: Kardinalzik samuelezekiel lewandoski20 and others.

Am not saying that God can not use a woman, in fact we have lots of instances in the bible, but as a pastor in a church. Do you know of that according to the bible women are not allowed to speak in the church? 1 corinthians 14:34, 1 Timothy 2:11-12,. And in 1 Timothy 3 it talk about qualities of a bishop and a deacon- male not female.