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Re: Do You Think It's Right Blaming Judas Iscariot For Jesus Death? by jonnytad(m): 9:51pm On Apr 14, 2017 |
If you ask me, Na who I go ask? |
Re: Do You Think It's Right Blaming Judas Iscariot For Jesus Death? by permit(m): 9:54pm On Apr 14, 2017 |
zionmade:, understand immeasurable things jus a mistake can caus one, jesus said it, and it was a prophacy,which was fulfiled by his lack of wisdom, he thought hs master wil pas even in d middle of d captivators as usual, another tin prophecy of christ, is smtin that mus be. |
Re: Do You Think It's Right Blaming Judas Iscariot For Jesus Death? by An2elect2(f): 10:00pm On Apr 14, 2017 |
femi4: You should have as well asked me to quote the whole bible |
Re: Do You Think It's Right Blaming Judas Iscariot For Jesus Death? by Maximus85(m): 10:12pm On Apr 14, 2017 |
Apple1992: Let me see how best I can explain this. First, Jesus Christ came to die for our sin, And his death cemented the total destruction of Satan. Hence, Satan never wanted Jesus Christ to die that sacrificial death. You might say yes, Shebi he wanted to kill Jesus when he was a child. Yes, Satan tried. And had he succeeded in killing Jesus, that death would have been useless because at birth, Jesus was only an extraordinary child but he has not become the messiah or the anointed at that time. Jesus became the Christ when he was baptized and God anointed him when the holy spirit came on him as a dove. But Satan would have been able to distort God's plan for a while has he succeeded. But we know God narrrr, he's quick to maneuver, quick to become whatever he pleases to make his will come true. So God protected Jesus till he became the Christ and was eligible to give his life as a ransom for us all. Now the best thing Satan could do is try to disqualify Jesus as the ransomer. He tried to make Jesus disobey God. We remembered how he tempted Jesus in the wilderness. Telling Jesus to jump, bow or do a miracle to selfish gain. Jesus was formidable. He won the devil. As Satan couldn't succeed using tricks, next he Kuku wan use tipatipa {Force} to make just quit his assignment as the ransomer. He started instigating people against Jesus Christ. He needed to enter Jesus Christ's closest circle and these are his disciples. He was looking for a weak link that he can use to make Jesus Christ ridiculed and to suffer. Judas is a Thief. He's been taken money from the disciples' purse since he was in charge. Satan observed all the disciples and Judas was vulnerable. He was not named or destined to betray Jesus Christ. And had he not killed himself, who knows, Jesus might have forgiven him. So we can blame Judas for everything. He made himself available to be used by Satan. We can all learn from this. We want our behavior to be honorable. If we do this, we will be useless to the devil. He won't even come close to us at all. I don't try. |
Re: Do You Think It's Right Blaming Judas Iscariot For Jesus Death? by Bakrabas: 10:31pm On Apr 14, 2017 |
By HANGING = (Matt. 27 vs 3- By FALLING = (Act. 1 vs 16-19) If I'm the confused one it's not my fault it's Bible that brought us confusion TosineGuy: |
Re: Do You Think It's Right Blaming Judas Iscariot For Jesus Death? by omoadeleye(m): 10:32pm On Apr 14, 2017 |
doctor306: I have think of this so many times then I came to this conclusion that God doesn't want us to believe that he is bias on the day of our judgement cause we will be like "God you didn't sent us to earth to know maybe we are doing good or bad, now you just created us and be judging us to hell, God you know that is bias oo" so God intended us to witness our handwork so that on the day of judgment youbwill surely know what you are being judge of... |
Re: Do You Think It's Right Blaming Judas Iscariot For Jesus Death? by Respect55(m): 11:13pm On Apr 14, 2017 |
judedwriter: So Wat if he had repented, Wat becomes of the prophecy? |
Re: Do You Think It's Right Blaming Judas Iscariot For Jesus Death? by mideactive: 11:15pm On Apr 14, 2017 |
judedwriter: Very bright! |
Re: Do You Think It's Right Blaming Judas Iscariot For Jesus Death? by Respect55(m): 11:19pm On Apr 14, 2017 |
FatGuy:Wat if nobody have allowed himself to be used in fulfilling the prophecy, Wat becomes of the prophecy? |
Re: Do You Think It's Right Blaming Judas Iscariot For Jesus Death? by doctor306(m): 12:38am On Apr 15, 2017 |
walls01: Why did he create the fruit since he knew it would tempt his creation |
Re: Do You Think It's Right Blaming Judas Iscariot For Jesus Death? by Totfulguy: 12:44am On Apr 15, 2017 |
Apple1992: What you need to understand is that God is Almighty, and He is the only Authority that has the capacity to tell the future (if He so intends). The capacity to foretell the future does not lay responsibility on God for the actions taken by the parties the event, just because he CAN foresee the future. Those two do not connect. Any more than you can say that a parent who warns his child of the consequences for his action, is responsible if it comes to pass as the parent foresaw. To illustrate, if a child DECIDES to climb a chair and a table and run on top of these, and an experienced parent warns the child of the consequences of such maneuvers. If the child continues he may see the consequences that the parent predicted. This does not put the blame on the parent. Unlike God, humans do no have the capacity see in details, what is to come. But God does. He can foretell (Not Predict) in full detail. God does however, influence the actions of the participants. They are responsible for their action. (Galatians 6:7). The Destiny Argument: To argue that God somehow predetermines the course of a person's is to say that, God is cruel, cold and evil. Or how else would you describe a God who had predetermined the cause of life of all of us and then turns round to punish us for playing out his script? In that case, Abubakar Shekau and is not responsible for the bloodshed, Nigerian politician were also destined to still among other prepaid (predetermined life courses). But far be it from God to be evil, cold or cruel. God has given us the capacity to choose and the freedom to do so. We are not robotic replicas off a mold created by God. We are therefore responsible for our actions and are accountable for the consequences thereoff. God would not have had any justification to punish Judas if he had predetermined his life-course. Judas IS RESPONSIBLE for his actions. HE BETRAYED Jesus out of his own selfish desire. The Bible puts it succinctly at James 1: 13-15. I hope this clarifies the seeming confusion as to Judas' culpability in connection with Jesus death. |
Re: Do You Think It's Right Blaming Judas Iscariot For Jesus Death? by Nobody: 12:53am On Apr 15, 2017 |
Boleyndynasty2:You are 1000% right. Greed was his downfall and orchestrated by the devil himself. Instead of seeking forgiveness, he took his own life(another sin apart from betrayal). BTW All this atheists when they have bad dreams and wake up,they all scream 'Jesus' or ' God' but says He doesn't exist! Bunch of clowns |
Re: Do You Think It's Right Blaming Judas Iscariot For Jesus Death? by hycode: 12:55am On Apr 15, 2017 |
Judas 'the Keriot or the Sacarii' which translates as Iscariot has all the answers in his book "The Gospel according to JUDAS" I encourage people to research other Gospel (Gospel of Thomas, Philip, etc). Jesus had 12 Disciples but why do we have 4 Synoptic Gospel? Long story short, we may never know if Judas was a malefactor or hero. We take everything in Christianity by Faith. '"Blessed are those who believe without seeing" (John20:29,ESV) |
Re: Do You Think It's Right Blaming Judas Iscariot For Jesus Death? by DeTherapist: 1:22am On Apr 15, 2017 |
One thing you should understand is this , it was be never prophesied that jusdas will betray Jesus ..... The only prophecy was that Jesus will die and rise again ... However after judas heard that Jesus said he will die !!! It drove him to making a few bucks from his (jesus's)destined death ... I believe he said to him self , if I don't betray him he dies , but if I betray him he still dies and I make 30 bucks ... Being a cunny and a greedy person he went with the second option ... He even had the guts to still from Jesus... So that's what happened ,... Peace |
Re: Do You Think It's Right Blaming Judas Iscariot For Jesus Death? by koolaid87: 1:25am On Apr 15, 2017 |
Nah, cos he only fulfilled prophesy..Regardless of that he should have asked for forgiveness, he had a choice, but opted for suicide. Jesus told peter that he would betrayed him three times...No matter how strong peter could have been, the prophesy had to be manifested Happy Easter Y'll |
Re: Do You Think It's Right Blaming Judas Iscariot For Jesus Death? by Nobody: 1:48am On Apr 15, 2017 |
The fact is Jesus must be killed but why must it be you to reveal him for execution. The prophesy says Christ must be killed not must be betrayed. So why must it be Judas to make it easy by betraying Him. Why must you be the one to make yourself available to satan to be used. |
Re: Do You Think It's Right Blaming Judas Iscariot For Jesus Death? by herald9: 2:11am On Apr 15, 2017 |
Let's cut some slack for Judas now? Do you think it's easy to hang yourself to death and still go on to fall headlong and die? Jesus died once, but Judas died twice. He's the main hero! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Do You Think It's Right Blaming Judas Iscariot For Jesus Death? by onos217(m): 2:16am On Apr 15, 2017 |
bezimo:If I may ask,had Jesus Christ prayed for Judas Iscariot,just like he prayed for Peter ,would he had been saved ? |
Re: Do You Think It's Right Blaming Judas Iscariot For Jesus Death? by onos217(m): 2:24am On Apr 15, 2017 |
Totfulguy:"God does not predetermine the life of a person" How about the case of Jacob and Esau? |
Re: Do You Think It's Right Blaming Judas Iscariot For Jesus Death? by zionmade(m): 2:52am On Apr 15, 2017 |
Goodnuel:We knew d background of various disciples before they began following Jesus. But dat of Judas wasnt recorded. Even if Judas was a former thief he must have repented like Matthew before opting to follow Jesus. Jesus acknowledged dat Judas stole from d treasury wen Judas made d sell d oil and give d poor statement |
Re: Do You Think It's Right Blaming Judas Iscariot For Jesus Death? by xtivin(m): 5:56am On Apr 15, 2017 |
God has given us freewill but we will account for how we use it,judas allowed the devil to use him.always pay attention to what spirit is using you at all time |
Re: Do You Think It's Right Blaming Judas Iscariot For Jesus Death? by spie42(m): 6:29am On Apr 15, 2017 |
An2elect2:You re so naive |
Re: Do You Think It's Right Blaming Judas Iscariot For Jesus Death? by Marvel1206: 6:55am On Apr 15, 2017 |
Jacksparr0w127 Since you are silent, do you now agree with me? |
Re: Do You Think It's Right Blaming Judas Iscariot For Jesus Death? by Boleyndynasty2(f): 7:37am On Apr 15, 2017 |
Trina0936:Lols, God bless you. Happy Easter |
Re: Do You Think It's Right Blaming Judas Iscariot For Jesus Death? by Nobody: 8:10am On Apr 15, 2017 |
Marvel1206:lol. I'm just trying to get some facts before I reply I'll come back with biblical facts |
Re: Do You Think It's Right Blaming Judas Iscariot For Jesus Death? by Marvel1206: 8:30am On Apr 15, 2017 |
Jacksparr0w127:haha. I don turn you to pastor beyen |
Re: Do You Think It's Right Blaming Judas Iscariot For Jesus Death? by judedwriter(m): 8:37am On Apr 15, 2017 |
yemimajid:God sits on His throne, and does what He likes; no one can question Him. Right now, God already knows those who spend eternity with Him and those who won't! |
Re: Do You Think It's Right Blaming Judas Iscariot For Jesus Death? by judedwriter(m): 8:44am On Apr 15, 2017 |
ziga: Even though Judas was doomed from the beginning, it only seemed fair for God to show us all that He will never force us against our will. The book of proverbs says we may cast lots, but the answer is from God. God knows every decision we will take even before our birth. |
Re: Do You Think It's Right Blaming Judas Iscariot For Jesus Death? by Goodnuel: 8:51am On Apr 15, 2017 |
An2elect2:My point too. |
Re: Do You Think It's Right Blaming Judas Iscariot For Jesus Death? by Goodnuel: 8:54am On Apr 15, 2017 |
zionmade:So like us, Christ didn't know a thing about Judas but went ahead to make him an apostle?? And how could he have repented when Christ hasn't died yet??, the part of repentance was supposed to be open after the death of Christ. |
Re: Do You Think It's Right Blaming Judas Iscariot For Jesus Death? by Nobody: 8:56am On Apr 15, 2017 |
Marvel1206:Hahaha it's knowledge actually. I like such arguments |
Re: Do You Think It's Right Blaming Judas Iscariot For Jesus Death? by zionmade(m): 9:51am On Apr 15, 2017 |
Goodnuel:Have u seen a man who married a very good loving wife who turned evil after marriage? Judas might not have been a thief before Jesus chose him. There was repentance for Mary and d samarian prostitute den why wont there also be repentance for Judas. |
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