بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
قال الإمام شمس الدين ابن قيم الجوزية (المتوفى: 751هـ)
فى كتابه :إغاثة اللهفان من مصايد الشيطان:

أَعُبَّادَ المَسِيحِ لَنَا سُؤَالٌ ... نُرِيدُ جَوَابَهُ مِمَّنْ وَعَاهُ
إذا مَاتَ الإِلهُ بِصُنْعِ قَومٍ ... أمَاتُوهُ فَمَا هَذَا الإِلَهُ؟
وَهَلْ أَرْضَاهُ مَا نَالُوهُ مِنْهُ؟ ... فبُشْرَاهُمُ إذَا نَالُوا رِضَاهُ
وَإِنْ سَخِطَ الّذِى فَعَلُوهُ فِيهِ ... فَقُوَّتُهُمْ إِذًا أَوْهَتْ قُوَاهُ
وَهَلْ بَقِىَ الوُجُودُ بِلاَ إِلهٍ ... سَمِيعٍ يَسْتَجِيبُ لَمِنْ دَعَاهُ؟
وَهَلْ خَلَتِ الطِّبَاقُ السَّبْعُ لَمّا ... ثَوَى تَحتَ التُّرَابِ، وَقَدْ عَلاَهُ؟
وَهَلْ خَلَتِ الْعَوَالِمُ مِن إِلهٍ ... يُدَبِّرُهَا، وَقَدْ سُمِرَتْ يَدَاهُ؟
وَكَيْفَ تَخَلَّتِ الأَمْلاَكُ عَنْهُ ... بِنَصْرِهِمُ، وَقَدْ سَمِعُوا بُكَاهُ؟
وكَيْفَ أَطَاقَتِ الخَشَبَاتُ حَمْلَ الْ ... إلَهِ الحَقِّ مَشْدُودًا قَفَاهُ؟
وَكيْفَ دَنَا الحَدِيدُ إِلَيْهِ حَتَّى ... يُخَالِطَهُ، وَيَلْحَقَهُ أذَاهُ؟
وَكيْفَ تَمَكَّنَتْ أَيْدِى عِدَاهُ ... وَطَالتْ حَيْثُ قَدْ صَفَعُوا قَفَاهُ؟
وَهَلْ عَادَ المَسِيحُ إِلَى حَيَاةٍ ... أَمِ المُحْيِى لَهُ رَبٌّ سِوَاهُ؟
وَيَا عَجَباً لِقَبْرٍ ضَمَّ رَبًّا ... وَأَعْجَبُ مِنْهُ بَطْنٌ قَدْ حَوَاهُ!
أَقَامَ هُنَاكَ تِسْعاً مِنْ شُهُورٍ ... لَدَى الظُّلُمَاتِ مِنْ حَيْضٍ غِذَاهُ
وَشَقَّ الْفَرْجَ مَوْلُودًا صَغِيراً ... ضَعِيفاً، فَاتِحاً لِلثَّدْيِ فَاهُ
وَيَأْكُلُ، ثمَّ يَشْرَبُ، ثمَّ يَأْتِى ... بِلاَزِمِ ذَاكَ، هَلْ هَذَا إِلهٌ؟
تَعَالَى اللهُ عَنْ إِفْكِ النَّصَارَى! ... سَيُسأَلُ كُلُّهُمْ عَمَّا افْترَاهُ
أَعُبَّادَ الصَّلِيبِ، لأَيِّ مَعْنًى ... يُعَظَّمُ أوْ يُقَبَّحُ مَنْ رَمَاهُ؟
وَهَلْ تَقْضِى العُقُولُ بِغَيْرِ كَسْرٍ ... وَإحْرَاقٍ لَهُ، وَلِمَنْ بَغَاهُ؟
إِذَا رَكِبَ الإِلَهُ عَلَيْهِ كُرْهاً ... وَقَدْ شُدَّتْ لِتَسْمِيرٍ يَدَاهُ
فَذَاكَ الْمَرْكَبُ الْمَلْعُونُ حَقًا ... فَدُسْهُ، لا تَبُسْهُ إِذْ تَرَاهُ
يُهَانُ عَلَيْهِ رَبُّ الْخَلْقِ طُرًا ... وتَعْبُدُهُ؟ فَإِنَّكَ مِنْ عِدَاهُ!
فَإِنْ عَظَّمْتَهُ مِنْ أَجْلِ أَنْ قَدْ ... حَوَى رَبَّ العِبَادِ، وَقَدْ عَلاَهُ
وَقَدْ فُقِدَ الصَّلِيبُ، فإِنْ رَأَيْنَا ... لَهُ شَكْلاً تَذَكَّرْنَا سَنَاهُ
فَهَلاَّ لِلْقُبُورِ سَجَدْتَ طُراً ... لَضَمَّ القَبْرُ رَبَّكَ فِى حَشَاهُ؟
فَيَا عَبْدَ المِسِيحِ أَفِقْ، فَهَذَا ... بِدَايَتُهُ، وَهذَا مُنْتَهاهُ!

اعتنى به أبوخديجة الأثري. محرم 1436ﻫ


O Christ-worshippers!

We’ve got some questions

Wanting answers from he who comprehends;

If the god is murdered by a people

Which kind of god is this?

Was He pleased by their assault on Him?

If yes, blessed be they, for achieving His ‘pleasure’!

But if He was discontented,

This means their power had subjugated his powers!

Was the whole entity left without a Deity

Who answers those who invoke Him?

Were the seven heavens vacated

When he laid somewhere under the ground?

Were all the worlds left without a god,

Who managed them while his hands were nailed?

Why did the angels deserted him,

Without help when they heard him wail?

How could the rods stand to bear the True Lord?

When He was fastened.

How could the irons (nails) reached Him

And [had] His body pinned in agony?

How could His enemies seize Him

And could [even] slap His rear?

And was Christ revived by himself,

Or was the Reviver another God?

I wonder how a grave could enclose a god!

Strange still is the womb that confined him!

He stayed there for nine months in utter darkness,

Being fed, only by blood!

Then he got out of the womb an infant

Weak and gasping to be breast-fed!

He ate, drank, and did what naturally resulted,

Is this [whom you call] a god?

Sublime and Exalted be Allah above the libels of the Christians,

They shall account for their calumny!

O Cross-worshippers! For what reason is this [cross] exalted?

And blame [is cast upon those] who reject it?

Is it not logical to break and burn it

Along with the one who innovated it?

Since the Lord was crucified on it,

And his hands were fastened to it?

That is really a cursed cross to carry!

So discard it, don’t kiss it!

The lord was humiliated on it,

And you still adore it? Surely, an enemy of His you are!

Then, if you extol it,

Because it carried the ‘lord of the Worlds’,

Why don’t you prostrate yourself to graves in worship?

Since it (also) contained your god a while!

Even though the cross is now extinct

The sight of its shape should remind of its horror!

Wake up! O Christ worshippers,

For this is the beginning and the end [of our admonition].

Translated: Aboo Khadeejah al Atharee.

OP......Leave us alone...

We love our religion and dont complain for us.... face ur religion...

I remember posting this in my early days here. The threads got deleted and I got banned for it twice.

Just hope they don't delete it this time around.

Hard-hitting questions they've been unable to answer after 700+ years

Sorry just wanted to see if I could still post here. Well this awkward... erm... Je suis Charlie?

To be fair there's a reason muslims are the only group who have their own little safe space on nairaland. Don't dish it out if you can't take it.





When muslims protest against the segregating privilege Islam for Muslims brings, when you guys decide to be merged with others in the religion section and be exposed to all manner of criticism from atheists and christians, then, and only then, would you have a right to criticise others. So get the placards and start protesting snowflakes. Toughen up.

All these mohamedians sef.

Even if i want to wake up (that is if what u wrote is true). Islam will not be on my scale of prefrence to chose. Buddahism (the religon that teaches about humanity) will be my next. Islam too has many fult that needs to be reformed.

Islam have to know the diffrence between good and evil, identify them and emulate the good, not calling good evil and evil good.

Yes. We all know there is a suprime being above (be it allah or jesus or mohamed or buddah). All religon belived there is a suprime being. It only a fool that will say there is no God. The only diffrences in religon is there identification and diffrences between good and evil, which islam finds it difficult to diffrentiate thereby resulting to it coniquences like terorism, ignorance, intolerance and the rest.

So buckle up guys and tell ur scolars to reform that religon.

Happy easter

This will be a very respectful presentation to anyone who wants to know about Jesus. No challenges. And there will be no criticism of any religion, in any way.

Did Jesus die on the cross or not?

How did God test Abraham? He asked Abraham to put his son on the altar. As they were going up the mountain, the son asked, "Where is the offering?" Abraham answered, "God will see to it. He will provide the offering." And God did provide a lamb, which Abraham then sacrificed to God.

Look at the consistent message God gives us.

God spares, he saves the son of Abraham with one lamb.

Then in Exodus, we see the importance of a lamb again. In Exodus, God warns his people in Egypt that he is going to strike the Egyptians. If those who believe in God will put the blood of a lamb on their doorpost, God would have the angel of death go past them, saving them from death. A nation of believers were saved by one lamb.

Then we see a lamb again in Leviticus. Every year the priest is told to take one lamb out of the city and sacrifice it for the sins of those people who believe in God. Each year, one people saved again by one lamb.

Then we hear John the Baptist addressing a crowd, saying this about Jesus: "Look! The Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world!"10 One lamb, who will save the whole world, for all who will believe in him.

What would have happened if Abraham had not listened to the voice of God, or had not believed that God was speaking to him? That's right, his son would have been killed!

What if the people did not believe God and did not put the blood of the lamb on their doorpost?

So now is the question. Some 2,000 years ago, Jesus, the Lamb of God, hung on a cross, and gave his life for you. We are clearly told, "God shows his love for us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us."11

What if you said, "No, they did not crucify him. He was not killed." This Lamb of God was sacrificed to pay for your sins, and the sin of all the world. What if you say that he was not killed, that this Lamb of God did not die for your sin, for your forgiveness?

If Jesus died on the cross, and was buried for three days, does this mean that God was dead for three days?

A great question. An illustration will help answer it.

Let's say we have a vase. It has no flowers, no water in it. It is merely full of air. What is the difference between the air outside the vase and the air inside the vase? The air inside the vase has shape, right? It is the same air in composition, but the air inside the vase has shape.

If we take that vase and smash it against the wall, what happens to the air inside of it? Does it die? No, air cannot die. The vase can be in thousands of pieces, but nothing happens to the air, except lose its shape.

When Jesus died on the cross, his body died, but the Spirit of Jesus, the Spirit of God never dies. God took on the form of man, in Jesus. He took on the shape of man, but Jesus was never only man.

On the cross, Jesus paid for our sin and removed the barrier that stood between us and him. Because of his death, we can be at peace with God. Though we were guilty, the justice of God was fully met by Jesus, the Lamb of God who suffered for us. And the love of God was fully expressed in that Jesus willingly laid down his life for us.

You may say, "That's not fair." And you're right. We don't deserve Jesus' dying for us. But this was God's solution for us. Do we tell God how it must be?

Jesus paid our penalty of death, so that we would not need to die for our sins. He wants us to come into relationship with him, to know his love, and to have eternal life.

One more story. A true story, to help you understand what Jesus did for us.

There was a righteous judge who would not take bribes. He was just. Honest. A lady was caught and brought before him. The penalty she might have to pay was a life sentence or a huge sum of money which she did not have.

The judge asked her, "Are you guilty or not?"
And she cried out, "Your honor, I cannot pay the sentence. I cannot pay the money. Please have mercy on me."
The judge said, "I am asking you, 'Are you guilty or not? Do you confess?'"
Finally the young lady said, "Your honor, yes, I am guilty."
He said, "Then you pay the price. Life sentence or the sum of money." And he closed the case.
She starts screaming and wailing, and they dragged her out of the courtroom to prison. The judge took off the robe, and walked out of the court. He then walked to the treasury. And right there at the treasury, he paid all the money he had and paid the ransom for that girl. Why? Because he loved the girl very much. She was his daughter. And he redeemed his daughter himself, with everything he had.

When the judge took off his robe, he became like any other man. And that's exactly what Jesus did. He left heaven, took off the robe of glory, and became like any other man. And he died for us, so our sins would no longer condemn us and keep us eternally separated from God.

All the prophets said that Jesus would come and die for the sins of the world. Jesus is the only hope for mankind to have eternal life.

Back at the beginning with Adam and Eve, God told Satan that an offspring of a woman would crush Satan's head, and mankind would be redeemed. Jesus' death and resurrection overcame the power of Satan. Jesus overcame sin, death, and our separation from God...delivering a crushing blow to Satan.