@Chidichris

So we nigerians have no intelligence?

We complete clowns like chidichris make blanket statements that are either 100% condemnation or commendation regardless of the facts or scenarios I can understand but when educated join in such I only shake my head and realize that indeed we have a much bigger problem on our hands than earlier imagined.

@afam,
since u v refused to leave the boarders of nigeria, how will u be able to know the good and bad.
u are used to what is obtainable in nigeria so no blames.
where is the president of nigeria? why is the vice president not taking over? tell me why the military will not take over instead of leaving nigeria in auto pilot?
like i said, u are like a blind man who cannot differentiate between colours. enjoy ur long range of ignorance.

So we nigerians have no intelligence?

@rethink,
we nigerians u said? u and afam are good examples of the we nigerians with intelligence.
in ur intelligence, where is the president of nigeria? in ur intelligence, why is the vice not taking over? in ur intelligence, how come u do not know that we have been terrorists time immemorial?
if u are intelligent like u claim, at 49, what have u been able to achieve as a pupil?
if this is what intelligence is all about, i will rather remain a foolish man.

chidichris:

@afam,
since u v refused to leave the boarders of nigeria, how will u be able to know the good and bad.
u are used to what is obtainable in nigeria so no blames.
where is the president of nigeria? why is the vice president not taking over? tell me why the military will not take over instead of leaving nigeria in auto pilot?
like i said, u are like a blind man who cannot differentiate between colours. enjoy your long range of ignorance.

And the extremely low level of reasoning of this clown tells him that one must leave Nigeria to know what is wrong or right. This is the problem with touts who forge documents to travel out in search of work, they begin to see life as touts see life. What do you really do in Dubai if you are not a fraudster?

Obviously, no reasonable company will bother to hire you to do anything based on your grammar and level of intelligence. So, what do you do lest a drug addict come to comment about what works and what doesn't work in Nigeria?

What did Aremu have to say about the "time bomb" he planted in Aso Rock by the name of Yar Adua? The effect of that bomb is more devastating than Mutallab's. Yar Adua is holding 150 million people hostage constitutionally, socially, economically, politically and spirituallly.

rethink:

@Noblezone

Since you call nigeria a fraud. go and look for another Country forum.

Chineke mee! I laf in Igbo!

Upon all the issues I raised, the only thing you saw worthy enough to comment on is that I called Nigeria a fraud? And your advice is that I should go to another country's forum? You are either a commedian or just being mischevious.

I expect you to prove me wrong by educating me on how Nigeria is not a fraud, because until I am convinced otherwise or I see the change in the system, that is my stand.

For example, will the Federal Govt of Nigeria allow us in Anabmra State to choose our Governor?
Our so called President has been away for forty-something days now, why is it so hard to hand over to the VP to act as the President till the Presido comes back?
What exactly is the state of health of Mr President? Do you know? I bet you that even the VP does not know!
The likes of Ibori are honoured, while the likes of Ribadu are fugitives!
Instead of removing the so called immunity clause for governors, our law makers want to extend it to themselves!

Like I said earlier, we should stop denying this boy Mutallab, we are "terrorists" and what the guy did is not strange. While he was bombing the US plane, our "brothers" in Bauchi of the Kala-Kato specie were busy killing and maiming. What is the difference between them?

Finally, Nairaland is not the property of the Fed Govt of Nigeria, but even if it is, it is right here on the internet and since I have access to it, there is nothing you can do about it. If you on the other feel so offended that you cannot stomach a different opinion, then please leave the forum.

As for me, "I dey kankpe".

y is it dat the aim of a poster is n? he started a poster is not always achieve on nl? he started a post on obj and u guys turned it to somfin else. wetin dey happen gaaan?

SHALOM

Since you call nigeria a fraud. go and look for another Country forum.

@rethink,
do u really know the meaning of fraud? if you do, can u in one sentence differentiate nigeria from the meaning. if our president owned up to coming to poer through fraudulent means, what is the need for ur arguement.
UAE once got financial assistance from nigeria. malaysia today is depending mainly on palm oil which they got from nigeria.
where and how do u compare nigeria to these countries today? where have u seen a country with a missing president? where is the constitution of nigeria and what is the constitution saying abt the vice president in the absence of the president? how long are we surposed to be under obasanjo as an unofficial president of nigeria? if there is anyother adjective, i wish to use that for this Godforsaken entity called nigeria.
name a politician in nigeria that freely won election into power, i mean just one.
tell me anyother country of this world where embeciles like prof iwu can exist.
in which other country of the world can a chris uba push out the an official governor of a state.
tell me any country of this world where contracts worth billions of sollars are awarded to ghosts who took the funds and leave the contracts undone.
we are fraud.

@afam,
i always point to the fact that u are handicapped because u never in ur whole life experience what leadership is all about. if you exist anywhere outside nigeria, u will begin to understand that govt depends on the response of the ppl in making their policies and decissions.
do u know that a wretched obj in 1999 cannot just become a billionaire in dollars just because he was president in anyother country of this orld.
do u know president zuma of south africa was made to appear in court to defend the use of us$500 equivelent and that is called accountability.
do u know that a gov in the usa was traced to argentina where he went to mess up with a girl friend? where is our president? it is obvious that most of the things ppl tell u abt governace sound like film tricks to u because u have never experienced them in ur whole life.
look at the undemocratic iran, ppl protesting day in day out while nothing happens in a democratic nigeria.
like i said, mrally decayed idiots like obasanjo has no moral standard to speak on our behalf. he can't speak for his immediate family who see him as a vulture talkless of speaking for over 150 million nigerians.
whatsoever i am doing in dubai, i am doing because my country forced me to and be informed that i am a traveller and i change my location from time to time giving me the opportunity to see other ppl and their behaviours, to see leadership and fellowship, to see accountability and fairness.
i have seen corrupt ppl and nations but nigeria is simply a fraud.

if there is any topic where nigerians are expecting the ottah monster to talk, it has to be on the issue of the president's where about. he shld be able to tell nigerians where that idiot he imposed on us went to and not the terrorist issue where he is a part and parcel of.

chidichris:

@afam,
i always point to the fact that u are handicapped because u never in your whole life experience what leadership is all about. if you exist anywhere outside nigeria, u will begin to understand that govt depends on the response of the ppl in making their policies and decissions.
do u know that a wretched obj in 1999 cannot just become a billionaire in dollars just because he was president in anyother country of this orld.
do u know president zuma of south africa was made to appear in court to defend the use of us$500 equivelent and that is called accountability.
do u know that a gov in the usa was traced to argentina where he went to mess up with a girl friend? where is our president? it is obvious that most of the things ppl tell u abt governace sound like film tricks to u because u have never experienced them in your whole life.
look at the undemocratic iran, ppl protesting day in day out while nothing happens in a democratic nigeria.
like i said, mrally decayed idiots like obasanjo has no moral standard to speak on our behalf. he can't speak for his immediate family who see him as a vulture talkless of speaking for over 150 million nigerians.
whatsoever i am doing in dubai, i am doing because my country forced me to and be informed that i am a traveller and i change my location from time to time giving me the opportunity to see other ppl and their behaviours, to see leadership and fellowship, to see accountability and fairness.
i have seen corrupt ppl and nations but nigeria is simply a fraud.

if there is any topic where nigerians are expecting the ottah monster to talk, it has to be on the issue of the president's where about. he shld be able to tell nigerians where that slowpoke he imposed on us went to and not the terrorist issue where he is a part and parcel of.

I am not here to debate anything with you because you are always talking out of point and out of context.

I have not seen anyone that claims that we don't have serious problems in Nigeria and I have not seen anyone that is in support of the problems especially as it regards corruption and development.

Just to set the records straight, don't take this to mean I will ever waste my time to debate anything with you when all you do is insult, curse and insinuate nonsense anytime you disagree with anyone on anything.

It really beats my imagination, that a mans house is on fire and he was busy pursuing rats.

Rather than address the issues at stake, name calling is taking to the front burner as if that will solve our problems.

@Noblezone and Chidichris

I have read your posts and you should be given a medal in defamation. You claim nigeria is a fraud you asked what is a fraud. A fraud is a lie that benefits somebody or a group of people.
Who is Nigeria (a group of people) defrauding?

Can you say 200 million is a Fraud? If Americans or ghanaians say same would that be right.

You talked about Obasanjo you Accuse him of stealing 16 billion Dollars Nobody has said it officially that he stole 16 billion. Even if we nigerians are all apes there is no way one man can steal $16 billion in nigeria.

Obasanjo has enemies from his family, tribe and accross Nigeria but no one can bring corruption to his face. We are seeing what and Army of just 3 million internet scammers are doing to the image of nigeria, if you add your grouping it will be a larger war. 

I know you are disillusioned with Nigeria but put on your thinking caps and let us reason and engineer socially our thoughts about Nigeria. The Parasitic Elites need people like you that have no hope. You are in the army of millitant disillusioned few.

God bless nigeria

rethink:

@Noblezone and Chidichris

You talked about Obasanjo you Accuse him of stealing 16 billion Dollars Nobody has said it officially that he stole 16 billion. Even if we nigerians are all apes there is no way one man can steal $16 billion in nigeria.

The issue of OBJ stealing $16 billion remains a lie that was initiated, spread and supported by few powerful Nigerians and the lie has severally been trashed and proven to be a lie but some of those confused Nigerians will continue to rely on what has been established as a lie just to justify their ignorance.

Unfortunately, trying to correct the lies being spread by some people will take all the time in the world so sometimes it is better to allow them to wallow in the ocean of ignorance.

@afam

I know that it is a lie but i was just trying to use logic to challenge his unconsciuos mind it might be hard but there was no harm trying. The Nazi used this style where they repeat a lie several thousand times sometimes in a large gathering sometimes individually. This becomes the truth later on this was used in the world war II.

@rethink,
at least in u afam has a  partner and in u nigeria can proudly boast of two wise men viz; afam and rethink.
obasanjo did not steal $16b, how much did he steal?
abacha stole money from the govt's treasure that were recovered by the obasanjo's administration what about the other past presidents? i know they stole nothing?
obasanjo speaking on the issue of terrorism, what is the name of what he did in bayelsa and benue?
during obasanjo's regime, planes were crashing like mad, what is happening now? why are the planes no longer crashing?
we have democracy and i want us to believe that it was that same democracy that brought yar adua to power? please correct me where i am wrong.
in a domocratic setting, what chris uba did in anambra was a patrotic act worthy of our praises?
in which other part of the world can a man who is not in control of his immediate family be in control of a whole nation?
is prof iwu a role model of a professor and is he worthy to be a national figure? what name do u call the selection(election) of 2007 as was dictected by obasanjo?
the topic of this thread is obasanjo speaking on our behalf and i am here to inform u that such a filthy man has no moral standard to speak on my behalf.

wether we like it or not, the only way to solve any problem is to first of all identify the problem.
nigeria is going backward on daily basis. look at ghana of yesterday. we still use the word,"ghana must go".
ghana identified their problems and worked towards solution and today we can see it from all angles, political, economical and otherwise, ghana is making waves.
the idea of using paid labourers to claim what we are not will continue destroying this country.
what is nigeria constitution saying abt the absence of the president from the country and office for 35 days? why is everybody overlooking the constitution.
my dear, if u are not a total home based, i mean if u have been wnywhere outside nigeria, u will agree with me that the things that happen in nigeria can only happen in nigeria.
the stupid obasanjo that is speaking for us told us sometime ago that a siezed ship disappeared till today without trace and in ur wisdom u bought that.
if any embecile had the gut to tell u such an impossible lie, he is capable of doing anything

Depilot:

Some of us are obviously frustrated and hopeless; a very very bad and deadly combo. This combination seems to place us in the darkness of no return.

Hey, Obasanjo is not my cup of tea, but I must give him this one. Yes, he has been very quiet lately, he has done all of us wrong and he's still the bully of all time, but I think he got this one right.
He came out at the right time to say the right thing.

It is sad that [b]our stupidity as citizens [/b]has placed most of us into an absurd state of mind, to the point that basic thinking is now very challenging.
It is ok to hate the man, it is ok to criticize the man, it is even fine to stone the man, but we must not allow the past to take away from the future. Obasanjo has done the right thing. He was very prudent during this speech and I think he nailed it ([b]for a minute I thought Babangida [/b]was the one that made the speech).

Obasanjo has my kudos for the first time for making this courageous move at this time. Let us hope that this will rub off to other old thieves in our country.

more than 50% are frustrated that's why you should advise your masters to change before this country implodes (Liberia where are staying did not experience 25% of what nigerians are experiencing day in day out before they went to war)

See person wey no stupid, apart from OBJ na IBB, Abacha, all the thieves you fit think of to make statement on behalf of nigeria, tell me how this country fit move forward with people like you?

rethink:

@Noblezone and Chidichris

I have read your posts and you should be given a medal in defamation. [b]You claim nigeria is a fraud you asked what is a fraud. A fraud is a lie that benefits somebody or a group of people.[/b]Who is Nigeria (a group of people) defrauding?

Can you say 200 million is a Fraud? If Americans or ghanaians say same would that be right.

You talked about Obasanjo you Accuse him of stealing 16 billion Dollars Nobody has said it officially that he stole 16 billion. Even if we nigerians are all apes there is no way one man can steal $16 billion in nigeria.

Obasanjo has enemies from his family, tribe and accross Nigeria but no one can bring corruption to his face. We are seeing what and Army of just 3 million internet scammers are doing to the image of nigeria, if you add your grouping it will be a larger war.

I know you are disillusioned with Nigeria but put on your thinking caps and let us reason and engineer socially our thoughts about Nigeria. The Parasitic Elites need people like you that have no hope. You are in the army of millitant disillusioned few.

God bless nigeria

Nigeria is a fraud:

1. Our elections are nothing but fraud. We are not allowed to choose our leaders.
2. Our Cencus are fraud.
3. Our Federal, State and Local Govts are nothing else but fraud. We are being led like slaves.
4. Corruption fight is nothing but fraud. The likes of Ibori are "clean" while the likes of Ribadu are now fugitives.
5. Terrorism fight is nothing but fraud. That is why I am angry that "we" are trying to deny the Mutallab boy. Terrorism has been here with us since our independence till date.
6. Our rulling party is a terrorist oorganisation (Soyinka called them a "nest of killers". Snatching of ballot boxes, using gun to intimidate vooters are all acts of terrorism.
7. A governor was "kidnapped" by a civilian with the aid of the Federal Govt as executed by the Nigeria Police Force and it was called a "family affair"
8. Internal colonialism is normal. A man from Ogun State will come to Anambra State and single handedly, impose a man of questionable charater as our governor.
9. What is the hide and seek game about Yar'adua? Even the information comming about his status is nothing but fraud.
10. There is a case in court about the so called signed budget; there is a serious concern about fraud in it.


Bros, we are living in a lie! Nigeria is a lie! Nigeria is a failed state!
There is no law and order: the little laws we have are trampled upon by those who should enforce them.
Our law makers are asking for immunity to loot becuase Governors and Presidents are immuned.
You can hire a police officer to kill a fellow Nigerian just for a few Naira, even as they kill motorists who refuse to part with N20.
Apart from the Nigeria Delta oil, our income is next to nothing.

We are being told lies upon lies just to keep Nigeria "One". The phrase "One Nigeria" is a proof that we are not one. I am yet to hear of "One Ghana", "One UK", etc. The nations that make up Nigeria are so much at varient with each other. A very clear example is the activities of the Jihardists in the North who insists that for Nigeria to be one, every body must Islamise. They go ahead killing and maiming at will.

Bros wake up and face reality, Nigeria is a fraud!

Afam:

The issue of OBJ stealing $16 billion remains a lie that was initiated, spread and supported by few powerful Nigerians and the lie has severally been trashed and proven to be a lie but some of those confused Nigerians will continue to rely on what has been established as a lie just to justify their ignorance.

Unfortunately, trying to correct the lies being spread by some people will take all the time in the world so sometimes it is better to allow them to wallow in the ocean of ignorance.

Ok, thanks for the info. OBJ did not steal $16, so how much did he steal?
Where is the MEGA watts he spent on? What about the roads?
Oh, I am sorry for asking that kind of "question". OBJ did not "steal", Ibori is a "saint". Rather it is Ribadu (your own Ribadu for that matter) that is the criminal after all is he not the one on the run?

When Ribadu's case came up, did I not tell you that this system will destroy him? Did i not tell you that it was wisdom for him to escape for his life? I know the sorts of names you called me, just beause I was reminding you what I told you in the gloriuos days of Ribadu; that there was no corruption fight going on.

Of course you know that I am not a fan of his (because he was only carrying out OBJs script), but what is happening to him is a proof of what some of us are saying:

That something is wrong with our system and that nothing good will come out of it. There is too much power at the centre and a few people who grabs it can do anything to stay there.
Please, tell me why cant Yar'adu hand over to Jonathan until he comes back?

Nigeria is sick, Nigeria is dying, Nigeria is a fraud. May God keep us alive and one day I will remind you of the things we talked abouit today.

Ka Chineke mezie okwu.

noblezone:


Ok, thanks for the info. OBJ did not steal $16, so how much did he steal?
Where is the MEGA watts he spent on? What about the roads?
Oh, I am sorry for asking that kind of "question". OBJ did not "steal", Ibori is a "saint". Rather it is Ribadu (your own Ribadu for that matter) that is the criminal after all is he not the one on the run?

If you cannot get to the facts about the IPP then it will be a waste of time responding to your post. Do an objective research and the truth will stare at you.

What did you tell me about Ribadu? You may as well draw up a list of things that never made sense and never will based on your mindset and position on issues.

Someone that claimed that it was better for Ribadu not to arrest anyone unless he arrests every corrupt Nigeria has the guts to talk about nation building?

Afam:

If you cannot get to the facts about the IPP then it will be a waste of time responding to your post. Do an objective research and the truth will stare at you.

I dont have to reinvent the wheel. Please what are the facts? For some of us, the facts are that
1. Money (plenty of it) was released for that purpose
2. We dont have anything to show for it
3. Nobody has been help responsible either for looting or mismanagement of the funds
4. OBJ was in charge and he should be held responsible. First rule about leadership: Every bulk stops at your table.
5. In absence of any other person, OBJ is responsible.

Afam:

What did you tell me about Ribadu? You may as well draw up a list of things that never made sense and never will based on your mindset and position on issues.

I told you that the corrupt system he fed fat when he was the EFCC chairman was turning against him and that it was the point some of us were making as at then: that the corruption fight was a fraud. I also adviced that if he wanted to live, he should get out of the country fast because the mafia machine running the fraudelent Nigeria will stop at nothing in order to have "bleed to death"

When my "list of the things that never make sense" end up in realities like:

1. OBJ's third term bid
2. The monumental failure of the corruption fight
3. Ribadu's flight, to mention just a few, I think you should be humble enough to admit that our analysis of the events and circumstances thereof are not completely silly.

Afam:

Someone that claimed that it was better for Ribadu not to arrest anyone unless he arrests every corrupt Nigeria  has the guts to talk about nation building?

I did not say that, and it is quite unfortunate if that was what you understood. IWhat I said was that the corruption fight as then was based on the Corrupt Personality of one man in the person of OBJ, and that the fight was a fruad. So as much as I had no sympathy for those that were dealt with, I made it clear that I was not going to clap for either OBJ or Ribadu.
It was immoral to demote one thief (becuase you disagree with him) and replace him with another big thief that is loyal to you. That is not corruption fight, it was rather a corruption boost.

To refresh your memory, this was among the last mail I sent you more than one year ago.

From: Okechukwu C. Okeke <noble_concepts@yahoo.com>
To: Afam <nnajiafam@yahoo.com>
Sent: Tuesday, 9 December, 2008 17:45:30
Subject: I hope you are fine, and I hope you are in Nigeria.

Bros me,

Glad tidings and how are you?  Its really been a while.  This is your bros who love so much to hate, due the fact that I have this approach to the Nigerian question.

I have not forgotten you but on the few occasions I sent you offline, I got no reply.  I am not offended in any way, after all you have the right to choose whom to associate with.

I hope you strong and sound.

I have been watching with keen interest the recent developments in the country and just feel like saying "Bros, i hope say you dey see o"?

Wither the EFCC and the so called corruption fight?  Those who should be at the mercy of the EFCC are now the pipers that dictate the tunes.

Its rather funny and please allow me to have some laugh.  Yes, it is painful but some of us are not suprised in any way.  We knew it long ago that the so called corruption fight was just a cover up for our then maximum ruller to achieve maxmum control.  All those who were not "loyal" were declared corrupt.  Sure most of them were corrupt but the spirit behind the fight was worse than what it was fighting.  You cannot cast a demon with another demon.

As at today, please where is the corruption fight heading to?

As far as the likes of OBJ are free despite the monumental evidences against him and his apostles of destruction, anything called corruption fight is a white wash.

Yaradua has no teeth to bite.  He is an unwilling President pressed down our throat by a mischief maker in the person of OBJ.  Soon it would be two years and the only progress we have made is that OBJ did not succeed his 3rd term.

The looting has continued, the economy is getting worse, corrupt men are still in charge and all we have is lip services. 

Electoral fraud which is the worst form of corruption is still very much around.  Maurice Iwu is still waxing stronger and bolder.  What did in Anambra and got away with, they tried that at Jos Local elections and the result is blood.  My only pain is that igbos had to die once more for one Nigeria.  It seems our lot in Nigeria is to slaughtered for some scarifice to keep Nigeria one.

I hope you are in Nigeria, to see what is becoming of Ribadu?
He is to be sacked and maybe jailed, and maybe killed.  I dont weep for him because he should had been intelligent enough to know that OBJ's regime will not last forever. He "faught" corruption but only from OBJ's point of view and that was his ruin.  Corruption fight should be based on good principles and not on sentiments; even bad and terrible sentiments for that matter.

Today, the hunter is being hunted.  My advice is this, let him leave this country and goto exile else they will kill him for nothing and there is nothing anybody can do about it.  Where is OBJ now? I wont be suprised if OBJ is among those proposing to have the young man crucified.

This is the direction I goto and you always accuse me of being persimistic and or even supporting the corrupt specie.  Yet, let me quickly remind you that I had always said that majority of the leaders were corrupt (till now) and we need to fight the monster called corrutpion, but not the way OBJ was going about it: To arrest a thief and deal with him, only to replace him with another thief who might even be worse.  It's a shame.

I am still celebrating the disgrace they met in Anambra, when all things failed, we saw the finger of God through the supreme court.

Finnally, let me say again as I have been saying, "Until we look into the structure of Nigeria and form a constitution that will be acountable to the able, we will continue in this endless circle". 


Ka Chineke mezie okwu.

I care.

Okey

noblezone:

I dont have to reinvent the wheel. Please what are the facts? For some of us, the facts are that
1. Money (plenty of it) was released for that purpose
2. We dont have anything to show for it
3. Nobody has been help responsible either for looting or mismanagement of the funds
4. OBJ was in charge and he should be held responsible. First rule about leadership: Every bulk stops at your table.
5. In absence of any other person, OBJ is responsible.

The points raised for a project that was initiated and was on going even after OBJ left power actually show that you are either being dishonest or you are simply ignorant of the facts. Sometimes, it pays to re-invent the wheel if you need to understand the wheel and how to better it. Do not swallow any sweet sounding phrase for the sake of it.

noblezone:

I told you that the corrupt system he fed fat when he was the EFCC chairman was turning against him and that it was the point some of us were making as at then: that the corruption fight was a fraud. I also adviced that if he wanted to live, he should get out of the country fast because the mafia machine running the fraudelent Nigeria will stop at nothing in order to have "bleed to death"

When my "list of the things that never make sense" end up in realities like:

1. OBJ's third term bid
2. The monumental failure of the corruption fight
3. Ribadu's flight, to mention just a few, I think you should be humble enough to admit that our analysis of the events and circumstances thereof are not completely silly.

I did not say that, and it is quite unfortunate if that was what you understood. IWhat I said was that the corruption fight as then was based on the Corrupt Personality of one man in the person of OBJ, and that the fight was a fruad. So as much as I had no sympathy for those that were dealt with, I made it clear that I was not going to clap for either OBJ or Ribadu.
It was immoral to demote one thief (becuase you disagree with him) and replace him with another big thief that is loyal to you. That is not corruption fight, it was rather a corruption boost.

I am ever so consistent and will remind you that the major phrase in those years we disagreed was "selective fight against corruption" which I maintained was 100% better than no fight at all because if for nothing it proved to us that indeed corruption can be tackled as many powerful people were investigated, arrested or jailed.

Your 100% fight or arrest of every single corrupt Nigerian was only good on paper just as any discerning observer would agree so I need not elaborate on that.

Unlike you, I write articles that criticize government institutions with facts and not rumor or false allegations. Even while Ribadu was still the chairman of EFCC I wrote one that prompted the EFCC to invite me to their office and I defended every single criticism with facts that were easy to establish and confirm. I left same day (less than 2 hours) and they agreed and respected those criticisms because facts remain facts any day.

That is what I represent, that is who I am. You informed me of writing a stinker which you sent to one newspaper house and the media house refused to publish and when I saw what you wrote I told you that no serious person will bother publishing your article because it was based on false and unsubstantiated information that you cannot defend.

I remember asking you to setup a newspaper house and let us see if you will publish articles submitted by people based on lies and misinformation. It is easy to see Nigerians use someone else's platform to make all sorts of accusations and rain insults on the government or people while hiding their true identities.

noblezone:

To refresh your memory, this was among the last mail I sent you more than one year ago.

Thanks for reproducing the email. Do me a favor, reproduce in its entirety my response to this email so that everyone will get to understand rather than rely on your usual one way thought process where facts are mixed up and issues compounded without resolving any.

For starters, I chose to discontinue communication with you because I felt you could not be trusted based on your reaction when I asked you to provide your phone number so I could call you and discuss some of these issues as email correspondences are not as immediate as phone and they take time.

Your reason for not providing the phone number was that you thought I was working as a government agent because I never join the band wagon that believes that everything is bad with Nigeria.

My reason to taking the course of action I took was that almost everyone I engage online knows what I do for a living (building software, database driven applications and inverter backup systems) and I have never hidden such.

To make matters worse, you demanded for and I provided for you a material you said you needed for your master's program making me believe that you have no integrity because if you felt I was a government agent why did you seek for something you knew I could provide for you based on my profession? This means that if you have the opportunity to dine with the same corrupt Nigerians you would so same.

To conclude this you may also reproduce in its entirety the email you sent to me when I replied the one you reproduced above where you apologized for the phone thing as you claimed you thought I was a government agent.

I am an open minded Nigerian that is bold enough to air my opinions on any issues concerning Nigeria and Nigerians. I don't do contracts, I always reject offers for kick backs on projects I do and I maintain the highest level of professional integrity you can find in business around here.

Enjoy the weekend ahead and please, stick to facts as facts don't lie.

Afam:

The points raised for a project that was initiated and was on going even after OBJ left power actually show that you are either being dishonest or you are simply ignorant of the facts. Sometimes, it pays to re-invent the wheel if you need to understand the wheel and how to better it. Do not swallow any sweet sounding phrase for the sake of it.

Ok. 8 Yrs of OBJ plus alomost 3Yrs of Yar'adua makes 11 Yrs. Perhaps we shall see the "fruit" of this on going project by the 3010. No wahala, only that nobody living in Nigeria now will be alive then to see it.

OBJ himself claimed that despite the huge money they pumped into power project, that there was nothing to show for it. He concluded by blaming it on sabotage and that he was going to investigate.

Afam:


I am ever so consistent and will remind you that the major phrase in those years we disagreed was "selective fight against corruption" which I maintained was 100% better than no fight at all because if for nothing it proved to us that indeed corruption can be tackled as many powerful people were investigated, arrested or jailed.

Your 100% fight or arrest of every single corrupt Nigerian was only good on paper just as any discerning observer would agree so I need not elaborate on that.

Unlike you, I write articles that criticize government institutions with facts and not rumor or false allegations. Even while Ribadu was still the chairman of EFCC I wrote one that prompted the EFCC to invite me to their office and I defended every single criticism with facts that were easy to establish and confirm. I left same day (less than 2 hours) and they agreed and respected those criticisms because facts remain facts any day.

That is what I represent, that is who I am. You informed me of writing a stinker which you sent to one newspaper house and the media house refused to publish and when I saw what you wrote I told you that no serious person will bother publishing your article because it was based on false and unsubstantiated information that you cannot defend.

I remember asking you to setup a newspaper house and let us see if you will publish articles submitted by people based on lies and misinformation. It is easy to see Nigerians use someone else's platform to make all sorts of accusations and rain insults on the government or people while hiding their true identities.

Thanks for reproducing the email. Do me a favor, reproduce in its entirety my response to this email so that everyone will get to understand rather than rely on your usual one way thought process where facts are mixed up and issues compounded without resolving any.

For starters, I chose to discontinue communication with you because I felt you could not be trusted based on your reaction when I asked you to provide your phone number so I could call you and discuss some of these issues as email correspondences are not as immediate as phone and they take time.

Your reason for not providing the phone number was that you thought I was working as a government agent because I never join the band wagon that believes that everything is bad with Nigeria.

My reason to taking the course of action I took was that almost everyone I engage online knows what I do for a living (building software, database driven applications and inverter backup systems) and I have never hidden such.

To make matters worse, you demanded for and I provided for you a material you said you needed for your master's program making me believe that you have no integrity because if you felt I was a government agent why did you seek for something you knew I could provide for you based on my profession? This means that if you have the opportunity to dine with the same corrupt Nigerians you would so same.

To conclude this you may also reproduce in its entirety the email you sent to me when I replied the one you reproduced above where you apologized for the phone thing as you claimed you thought I was a government agent.

I am an open minded Nigerian that is bold enough to air my opinions on any issues concerning Nigeria and Nigerians. I don't do contracts, I always reject offers for kick backs on projects I do and I maintain the highest level of professional integrity you can find in business around here.

Enjoy the weekend ahead and please, stick to facts as facts don't lie.

Well, I reproduced the mail of one year ago to show you how consitent I had been that my problem was not that |Ribadu could not catch all the corrupt Nigerians as at then, but the fact that the fight was based on the Corrupt Personality of the then maximum ruler.

You have never changed from your approach to issues, you always dodge the issues at stake and resort to battering. And I have told you several times, its not my style.

The questions begging for answers are:
Did OBJ loot or not?
Why is Ribadu on the run? or Rather, why is the great Nigerian Government after him?
Wither the corruption fight?
Why are the Iboris' in charge?
Where is Yar'adua?
Why cant he hand over to Jonathan?

These and many more are our concerns.

Thanks for the MSc material. I am through with the degree.

noblezone:

Ok. 8 Yrs of OBJ plus alomost 3Yrs of Yar'adua makes 11 Yrs. Perhaps we shall see the "fruit" of this on going project by the 3010. No wahala, only that nobody living in Nigeria now will be alive then to see it.

OBJ himself claimed that despite the huge money they pumped into power project, that there was nothing to show for it. He concluded by blaming it on sabotage and that he was going to investigate.

And in your own wonderful sense of reasoning so the same OBJ you accused of stealing $16 billion claimed that the money pumped into the project did not reflect the state of power supply due to sabotage?

Did you really write the above or do you really understand what you put down?

noblezone:

Well, I reproduced the mail of one year ago to show you how consitent I had been that my problem was not that |Ribadu could not catch all the corrupt Nigerians as at then, but the fact that the fight was based on the Corrupt Personality of the then maximum ruler.

You have never changed from your approach to issues, you always dodge the issues at stake and resort to battering. And I have told you several times, its not my style.

The questions begging for answers are:
Did OBJ loot or not?
Why is Ribadu on the run? or Rather, why is the great Nigerian Government after him?
Wither the corruption fight?
Why are the Iboris' in charge?
Where is Yar'adua?
Why cant he hand over to Jonathan?

These and many more are our concerns.

Thanks for the MSc material. I am through with the degree.

No sir, you reproduced the email where you made false statements to mislead the reading public. I asked you to reproduce my response to this same email and the subsequent reply by you. That will expose your lies and inconsistency.

As to the questions raised I will not even bother answering them because in your bid to make lies become facts every single answered question will be debated even when factual and other irrelevant questions will come up as a form of diversion.

So, over the years I have learnt how to handle such questions that are usually endless and diversionary.

I have zero tolerance for people without integrity so you just have to live with it. Without integrity trust me you are nothing.

Afam:

And in your own wonderful sense of reasoning so the same OBJ you accused of stealing $16 billion claimed that the money pumped into the project did not reflect the state of power supply due to sabotage?

Did you really write the above or do you really understand what you put down?

Well, I dont trust him. Period. If it was sabotage, who was the culprit? Was he not the CIC? He should tell the sabotage story to the chickens in his farm.

Afam:

No sir, you reproduced the email where you made false statements to mislead the reading public. I asked you to reproduce my response to this same email and the subsequent reply by you. That will expose your lies and inconsistency.

I reproduced my mail to show that the issues I raised over a year ago are still glaring us in the face without answers. On the other hand, if you feel that your response as then is worth it, then go ahead and reproduce them by yourself. One thing is a fact though, Ribadu is on the run and you cant deny that.

Afam:

As to the questions raised I will not even bother answering them because in your bid to make lies become facts every single answered question will be debated even when factual and other irrelevant questions will come up as a form of diversion.

So, over the years I have learnt how to handle such questions that are usually endless and diversionary.

I have zero tolerance for people without integrity so you just have to live with it. Without integrity trust me you are nothing.

I am already living with the fact that you will rather rain abuses than trash out a simple issue. Are we not in Nigeria? Time will surely tell.

I wish you well.

noblezone:

Well, I dont trust him. Period. If it was sabotage, who was the culprit? Was he not the CIC? He should tell the sabotage story to the chickens in his farm.

Very immature and senseless points. I don't engage in such, sorry.

noblezone:

I reproduced my mail to show that the issues I raised over a year ago are still glaring us in the face without answers. On the other hand, if you feel that your response as then is worth it, then go ahead and reproduce them by yourself. One thing is a fact though, Ribadu is on the run and you cant deny that.

You reproduced a mail you wrote with lies. I responded to the same mail pointing out the lies and you did a reply where you even apologized for one of your many shameless blunders. No one forced you to reproduce the first email you posted and common sense would dictate that you reproduce my reply and yours at least to prove me wrong. Are you ashamed that the readers will see that you have zero credibility?

By the way, no one is denying the fact that Ribadu is on the run for his life so do not make it sound like anyone is disputing that. Why manufacture issues that no one is denying or debating?

noblezone:

I am already living with the fact that you will rather rain abuses than trash out a simple issue. Are we not in Nigeria? Time will surely tell.

I wish you well.

Rain abuses? I can't stand liars and it is not a secret.