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See The Lies Being Told About Yoruba Religion, In South America by ayodiya: 8:49pm On Apr 21, 2017
List of urban myths and other fanciful tales heard from many in the americas about Orisa Tradition in Yoruba land of West Africa, Yoruba language, Nigeria, etc:
-Orisa no longer exist in Africa.
-Chief priests of Ifa or other orisa traveled to countries if the diaspora to learn ancient rituals, practices, and shrines that had been lost in Yorubaland.
-The language used in ritual in the Diaspora represents ancient Yoruba language that went extinct in Yorubaland.
-The worship and priesthoods of Osoosi and Erinle have disappeared or all but disappeared in Nigeria and Benin Republic.
-The Alaafin of Oyo (kabiyesi!, iku baba yeye!) sent bata drummers to Cuba to relearn how to play bata because the drummers in Nigeria had forgotten.
-Iya Adunni Suzanne Wenger was made the Iya Osun of Osogbo (chief priestess of Osun in Osogbo) because there were no more Osun priests in Osogbo and all of Osogbo’s population had because muslim or christian.
-The food called amala in Nigeria is a newer version of the ancient amala prepared in Cuba and Brazil. (Yes, I have literally heard this nonsense!)
-The Ooni of Ife performed idobale (layed prone flat on the ground) to the Orisa singer Lazaro Ros when the Ooni visited the island nation of Cuba years ago. (Shockingly and quite embarrassing for cubans and cuban orisa people, this madness was uttered at Miami-Dad College in front of an entire audience by the cuban ethnographer Natalia Bolívar just a few years ago!)
-Yoruba people of Nigeria and Benin Republic don’t understand the orisa songs of Santeria and Candomble because the language used is a dialect of ancient Yoruba language that was completely removed from West Africa and only preserved in the Diaspora.
-Orisa people in Nigeria are now using soperas from the cubans. (…Meanwhile the use of chinese rice bowls and other chinaware has been in uses for several generations in Yoruba land in addition to the more indigenous containers used for Orisa since ancient times. But I guess the myth-makers of the West overlooked their presence in West Africa for at least as long as Orisa has existed in the Diaspora.)
-Chief Fayemi Elebuibon, the current Araba of Osogbo, went to Orlando and Tampa area to stay with cuban santeros that live there to learn to consecrate some Orisa that had been lost in Nigeria but preserved in cuban Santeria.
-The cult of Oya is almost dead.
-Everyone’s favorite,
That iyanifas are only a recent “invention” and have no true place in Ifa.
-another urban ‘myth’ (lie): Cuban bata drumming is more complex than Yoruba bata drumming because fewer drums are used in the Cuban ensemble
-only those initiated in ‘the room’ are allowed in Lucumi but in Africa they allow anyone – even the non-initated into Igbodu.
-Nigerians are so poor because they no longer have Orisa – they are savages and had abandoned their traditions.
-During slavery they swallowed all the otans an erindinlogun an brought them over from yorubaland across the waters.
-That there is no functioning oosa/orisa community and everything is “Ifa”.
-When you do tefa you betray the Orisa you were crowned.
-You are not a full “Iyalocha or babalocha” unless you have cuchillo ceromony or the ceromony of irete kutan to be licensed as a Obba Oriate.
-That idosu is incorrect because it doesn’t (always) take the full 7 days that Ocha does
-You can’t perform/do Orisa ceremonies as an Ifa initiate.
-“You can’t initiate Olocun, Omolu, or Aganyu directly on the head”
-that every person who is a traditionalist, started out in lucumi.
-Here’s another one: Gill Sampaio Ominirò said that the system of Eerindinlogun divination performed in Yorubaland was created in Brazil and introduced to orisa priests in Nigeria and Benin Republic. According to him, the system of 16 cowrie divination was created by a babalawo / babalorisa of brazil and brought to Nigeria because before then only Ifa divination existed in Africa!

http://www.theyoruba.com/2017/04/see-the-lies-being-told-about-yoruba-religion-in-south-america/
Re: See The Lies Being Told About Yoruba Religion, In South America by Pearlyakin(m): 9:07pm On Apr 23, 2017
That's so unfair, from a fellow kinsmen forming such a blatant lie against the Yoruba tribe.
Remember our culture and tradition right here is not a mixed form like theirs over there in Cuba that has been mixed with Christianity,Catholicism and other tribes.
Re: See The Lies Being Told About Yoruba Religion, In South America by Pearlyakin(m): 9:09pm On Apr 23, 2017
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KingSango
Re: See The Lies Being Told About Yoruba Religion, In South America by KingSango(m): 12:31am On Apr 28, 2017
Pearlyakin:
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KingSango

Greetings,

What you are speaking of is the bastard children of Spaniards that raped the native population of South America. They are called, "Hispanics", "Latinos" implying they are the offspring of rape of native women by Spanish lords. The native population was very dark complexion and more like Fiji Island looking Black/Africans. Yes, its true. The real original population of the Americas were Blacks/Africans. But the Spaniards created the system of having Spanish blood made one Spanish, no matter how dark, as long as the father was Spanish. Over time this created three types of people in the land, slaves from Africa, native Blacks, and the bastard race of Hispanics. The mixture of Yoruba traditions with those of the native combined with the Catholicism, mainly the latter to disguise the African traditions that were outlawed by the slavemaster.

But in the 1960s His Royal Majesty Oba Adefunmi I, the first king of Oyotunji, named so to mean Oyo Empire will rise again, brought the original Ifa teachings from Nigeria back to the West. So now longer had we, the true descendants of Africa, have to bear the whims and ways of racist Hispanics and Latinos who had hijacked the tradition and selling it back to us at ridiculous prices. Yes Orisha initiation were in the thousands of dollars, they made sure to drag it out so that by the time you became a full priest and priestess you would have spent tens of thousands. So what is happening in this attack upon true Ifa culture is simple, greed and ambition has taken over these racist thieves. So now they lie about Nigeria so that people can be diverted from Nigerians, the true cultural inheritors of Ifa Tradition, and come and pay them instead.

It is important that we stay ancestral in our worship. True Ifa is about the worship of real African Gods and Goddesses that incarnated during times in our history. The Irunmole answer to us and only us, they don't hear the Hispanic and the Latino because its not their bloodline. They do have their magic though and ancestral worship of Catholics and their ancestors who were priests. But the Irunmole only answer to us. We can't be caught up in worshiping Santeria because its not our tradition. At one point, our ancestors created this synthesis to disquise it from the slavemaster. It has served its purpose and Santeria is no longer viable because the real option is available at Oyotunji African Village Kingdom, South Carolina, USA. There are many African diaspora that teach authentic Nigeria and Benin Ifa and Vodoun so no worry. The King of Oyotunji, His Royal Majesty, Oba Adefunmi II, son of the his father, who founded Oyotunji, was just recently in Oyo visiting the Alaafin at his Palace. Ase, Love, Sango.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kk3UW3Iiz2c

The truth is all here: https://gullahgeecheeworldtradeunion..com/2016/12/reclaim-your-honor-as-independent_16.html

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Re: See The Lies Being Told About Yoruba Religion, In South America by KingSango(m): 1:02am On Apr 28, 2017
The Royal Family in Oyotunji African Village Kingdom, True Ifa lives!

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