MrMaestro:

This is just false. We attend our churches and banks because they have been here longer, and have a generational following. It will take time before new businesses can get significant marketshare. If a yoruba goes to the southeast, is he really going to compete with the long standing business that is already established with the people? No. You all think too deeply about things and I don't know why you always think people are attacking you. We let you live and work and all over our land and if you weren't successful you would'nt be staying, so don't act like igbo people don't get yoruba business. Why do igbo people consider yorubas their enemies? I've never understood this, with the way we live peacefully together we should be the closest of tribes. What exactly do you expect from yorubas that we aren't doing? You're flourishing in our lands like everyone else. That is more than enough.

Brother I keep wondering the same thing too.. I think they forget that it was the Hausa and fulanis who massacred the igbos in the north and forced them out. Our only crime was not taking sides with them in a war that should not have happened in the first place. Should the hate not be directed at Hausas? Instead they're fighting with their only possible ally

kramer:


http://pulse.ng/religion/pulse-roundup-2014-10-most-controversial-pastors-of-2014-id3372925.html

Still predominately yoruba

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ihimiray:
.. What in the world would I wanna be an igbo.... I spit on u man.

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It seems comprehension is one of your many problems

Ikenna0b:


Still predominately yoruba

Yes it is because there are more successful and prominent Yoruba pastors than non yorubas. But that's not the point. You mentioned that you hadnt come across any controversial non Yoruba pastors, I hope your brain has been refreshed.

kramer:


Yes it is because there are more successful and prominent Yoruba pastors than non yorubas. But that's not the point. You mentioned that you hadnt come across any controversial non Yoruba pastors, I hope your brain has been refreshed.

Your brother claim that you people are true pastors. I told him that most of the fake pastors,in Nigeria are predominately YORUBA. I said I've never witnessed a non yoruba in a controversy. I never said it does not exist hence the reason I said most, not all. All you did is end up proving me accurate. Thank you on that.

paramakina202:

How many Yorubas worship in those churches?

So we have established that more Igboes worship in Yoruba churches than the other way round.Ii wonder why?But is it just in Nigeria or everywhere Nigerian churches are found? Maybe the Igboe led achurches have an image problem just like everything Igboe. Igboes don't know how to talk to people they are generally arrogant and rude so few people even Igboes will turn to them for spiritual guidance
I goes are perceived to be very dishonest. IFor you hear news of faking or counterfeiting food or drink in Nigeria you know it will be an IGBOE. WHO WILL TRUST SUCH A PERSON. ?
Let me tell you something about Igboes THEY LIE TOO MUCH EVEN TO THEMSELVES and every Nigeria sees the Igboe man as he really is yet he continues to deceive himself about his reality .

Igbos are tribally pathetic.

How many other tribes are pastors in Lord chosen, how many other tribes are senior pastors in Ezekiel's church and how many non Igbos are pastors in Catholic charismatic church?

aribisala0:
So we have established that more Igboes worship in You oba churches than the other way roun.Ii wonder why?But is it just in Nigeria or everywhere Nigeria churches are found? Maybe the Igboe led churches have an image problem just like everything Igboe.
Let me tell you something about Igboes THEY LIE TOO MUCH EVEN TO THEMSELVES and every Nigeria sees the Igboe man as he really is yet he continues to deceive himself a out his reality

I ask a simple question and you start speaking in tongues.*
The question again,how many Yoruba worships in Igbo churches.
Both in Nigeria and diaspora Igbos foolishly populate Yoruba churches.

aribisala0:
So we have established that more Igboes worship in Yoruba churches than the other way round.Ii wonder why?But is it just in Nigeria or everywhere Nigerian churches are found? Maybe the Igboe led achurches have an image problem just like everything Igboe. Igboes don't know how to talk to people they are generally arrogant and rude so few people even Igboes will turn to them for spiritual guidance
Let me tell you something about Igboes THEY LIE TOO MUCH EVEN TO THEMSELVES and every Nigeria sees the Igboe man as he really is yet he continues to deceive himself a out his reality .

lol Afonja propaganda. my happiness is that time shall come when yorubas cannot afford to live in Lagos. The Igbo man mentality is to buy land in choice area and live in it. Let me see how it plays out in future Lagos is an annex of Igbo land.

Gathering of vultures.

paramakina202:

I ask a simple question and you start speaking in tongues.*
The question again,how many Yoruba worships in Igbo churches.
Both in Nigeria and diaspora Igbos foolishly populate Yoruba churches.

Because Igboe churches are not trusted. No one trusts Igboes. THAT IS THE BITTER TRUTH this is all Nigerian Christians not just Igboes prefer Yoruba churches all over the diaspora . Yorubas are seen as more spiritual than Igboes and more trusted whilst Igboes are seen as charlatans and conmen

facelessangel:
lol Afonja propaganda. my happiness is that time shall come when yorubas cannot afford to live in Lagos. The Igbo man mentality is to buy land in choice area and live in it. Let me see how it plays out in future Lagos is an annex of Igbo land.

Exactly the self deception we are talking about. Yoruba are indifferent to you but you actively wish us ill.You will be happy that Yoruba are unable to live in Lagos? Why?What a diseased mind.
We are praying that all of you live happily IN ABA AND NNEWI, So why the hatred?

Well, it's true that sometimes it's not about the content of the message, but about how it's presented.

The OP has a big point! And any neutral unbiased person would have noticed that. Yorubas hardly patronize churches not founded by fellow Yorubas, maybe they don't do this with any ulterior motive other than the fact that it's easier to identify with their own kind than with others, either way, the result is the same.

Group economics demands that one only patronize ventures ran by a member of one's group, first and foremost as far as services rendered are standard. As this is the best way of circulating wealth within the group and ensuring economic
survival, the Jews do this alot. Ndiigbo can learn one or two things from them.

aribisala0:

Because Igboe churches are not trusted. No one trusts Igboes. THAT IS THE BITTER TRUTH this is all Nigerian Christians not just Igboes prefer Yoruba churches all over the diaspora . Yorubas are seen as more spiritual than Igboes and more trusted whilst Igboes are seen as charlatans and conmen

More like Yorubas see themselves as more spiritual and more trust worthy than Igbos, even when reality on ground is not in conformity with such sentiments.

Ikenna0b:


Your brother claim that you people are true pastors. I told him that most of the fake pastors,in Nigeria are predominately YORUBA. I said I've never witnessed a non yoruba in a controversy. I never said it does not exist hence the reason I said most, not all. All you did is end up proving me accurate. Thank you on that.

I know, hence why I decided to post the link so you can witness it. Henceforth please don't ever say you've never heard of a controversial non Yoruba pastor before, makes you look like you don't know what's going on around you.

aribisala0:

Because Igboe churches are not trusted. No one trusts Igboes. THAT IS THE BITTER TRUTH this is all Nigerian Christians not just Igboes prefer Yoruba churches all over the diaspora . Yorubas are seen as more spiritual than Igboes and more trusted whilst Igboes are seen as charlatans and conmen

My pain is that, it is taking my brothers too long to realise that Yoruba pastors are nothing but scammers from A to z,btw if Igbo pastors are corrupt they learnt it from Yorubas who commercialised churches in Nigeria.So better I get scammed by my fellow Igbo pastor than to be scammed by a Yooruba pastor and that is exactly what Yoruba christians are doing.They are smart in that aspect.

pazienza:


More like Yorubas see themselves as more spiritual and more trust worthy than Igbos, even when reality on ground is not in conformity with such sentiments.

Can I ask you a quick yes or no question (and please try to be honest)

Do igbos sometimes find it difficult to trust other igbos?

Igbos stop fooling around the op told no lies... If you know nothing about what the op was implying just keep shut and dont give afonjas reasons to take shots at us.

Some foolish igbos are confused, you are ipob today, you want biafra tomorrow or you want a Nigeria with equal right and justice yet when the bitter truth like the one in this thread hits you in the face, you loose all you stand for and and become a 10sec efulefu syndrome patient.

Confused igbo lots allover nairaland. When you stand for nothing you stand for everything. See the confused fools now fighting the op for afonja and some tribalistic god of men, without pointing one lie in the post

Zebrudaya666:
but honestly this thread is unnecessary

@op people like you bring bad names to Igbos and our struggle

shame

But everyone knows you as a bunch of misfits already, the OP merely confirmed it .Silly IPOB clowns

aribisala0:

Exactly the self deception we are talking about. Yoruba are indifferent to you but you actively wish us ill.You will be happy that Yoruba are unable to live in Lagos? Why?What a diseased mind.
We are praying that all of you live happily IN ABA AND NNEWI, So why the hatred?

He won't answer because he can't. He's hatred personified. Unfortunately many Igbo people think like him. What's even more disturbing is how many of these comments go unchecked by other igbos as if in agreement. Where are the detribalized Igbos calling him out? Do they even exist anymore?

I do not criticize your write up but things like this will only stir up hatred and racism and trust me if u have experienced racial discrimination outside, you would think twice... igbos,we are mostly catholics or Anglicans only but a few percentage patronize other little churches

codedslayer:


You kids have no shame. You are even accusing your fellow flat.head of being afonja, i really pity your kids. Pathetic

afonja keep quiet! Do you not know that afonja has many meaning

rex444:
I do not criticize your write up but things like this will only stir up hatred and racism and trust me if u have experienced racial discrimination outside, you would think twice... igbos,we are mostly catholics or Anglicans only but a few percentage patronize other little churches

Hahaha, stir up hatred? What did you think he was aiming to do? Stir up love and brotherliness

ihimiray:
The more i see threads like this the more I see Igbos as idiots,for the records am not a yoruba but from delta state....u guys think so hard with ur anus.. I swear u deserve to be cast away like a leper..... Senseless Balkan

the truth is bitter. I would have loved it if you take this line by line and make your point so that you can prove me wrong. Igbo are getting aware of treachery

Balkan:
Do u know that all 9 members of RCCG governing council are Yorubas? Do u also know that no Igbo man is a Bishop in the Living Faith church( Winners Chapel)? No Igbo Man is also a superintendent at Deeper Life Bible Church? Do you also know that no Igbo man is also a senior Pastor @ Daystar Christian center? Neither any one @ Kingsway International Christian Center?
The Igbos should know that the Messiah will come from among its people. The disciples of Jesus Christ are Galileans like him, they should stop pumping money into other tribe projects and yet complain about Igbo marginalisation. We should start with what we can control. Go to any church but ensure that part of your tithe and other big donations go to Igbo churches because soon "it will be to your tents oh Israel"
Please send until it gets to all Igbo sons & daughters, because even in heaven, as on earth, there is hierarchy and little segregation.

When you realise how much money that leaves the east every Monday you will realise why Yorubas would not want you to get Biafra.

Have you ever seen a yoruba man read SUN news paper or champion news paper.

How many Yorubas would you find in a church where an Igbo man is the founder.

They hate you to the extent they will not let their houses to you unless there is no choice than to give you the house.

How many Yorubas bank with Fidelity bank or diamond bank.

Your real enemy is known to you yet you look the other way round.

How much have you donated to your home church? Igbo make use of your brain.

The mod will definitely throw this away because they would not want you to know the truth.

Please this message is only for igbo awareness

honestly I wonder how some of u allow hate to consume u.how did u get d statistics of tribes DAT bank with fidelity and diamond.pls go and get sometin useful to do with ur life.by the way am nt Igbo but I bank wit diamond bank.

Pierocash:
I disagree with ur writeup Op,evn though i believe the issue of no Bishops of igbo tribe in winners chapel and other churches u mentioned bt that has nothing to do abt tribe.
Hw many yorubas are senior pastors in Salvation Ministries,Dunamis,Lords Chosen, Dominion City,Gateway christian center,Christ Embassy etc.
Bishop Ebhoghinme was the most Senior pastor in winners after Bishop David Oyedepo and Bishop Abioye he wasn't a yoruba,so tell me,hw does that mean tribalism?

U r so so wrong. Igbos r pastors (state overseers n national overseers) in Deeper Life. I don't know of other churches, but I know of this one. Former church secretary was even an Igbo man. So what z OP saying please?

ihimiray:
Mr man the marginalization u guys cry about is just a fragments ur ur imagination... Act right and people will treat u well... U spoke about a landlord not wanting to give his house to an Igbo Man... Most cases very true but I don't blame dem but the Igbos..when the come for ur house the come like doves but 6 months after getting the apartment they behave like lions.... Disregarding the landlord and causing havoc.... The yorubas are the most accommodating and I really respect them for that,but the Igbos will carry grudge for a thousand years.... See am tired of u people I swear.....u guys need to purge urselfs

Wrong Sir. D hausas r d mist accommodating. Only problem z houses they own r very very expensive, THOUGH ULL GET FULL VALUE FOR SUCH HOUSES, so it's worth t

Op is right they even ban Igbo gospel music in their demonic churches....

Dedetwo:


Nigeria is tribal. Are you this slow? It foolish to have all Yari.ba at the helm of RCCG while majority of Igbo contribute to the church's coffer.

exactly!we should stop going to those churches their pastors are good in breaking homes...... They destroy alot of marriages and relationships people should desist from these churches.stay with your family together and pray together.....God will answer your prayers

Dedetwo:


Nigeria is tribal. Are you this slow? It foolish to have all Yari.ba at the helm of RCCG while majority of Igbo contribute to the church's coffer.

It is normal for sheep and goats to follow their shepherd .
Egboes are a carnal and venal bunch who need guidance and leadership to curtail unwholesome tendencies