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Re: Sufism In Ilorin ; A Struggle For Survival.. by Basic123: 2:55pm On May 05, 2017 |
HAH:Lolz...what is moderate Muslim?,meaning you are being moderate in your submissions to Allah?...you submit totally not moderately.It is so painful and pitiful that you as a muslim could associate Bokoharam,ISIS and Alqaeda to innocent sunnah and not politics.All terrorist groups are khowaarij if they are muslims as they claim and are not Ahl sunnah or salafiyyah.Because,sunnah didn't teach source.so,try and find out what sunnah is about and dont fall for cheap campaign of calumny against sunnah of the prophet because every muslim @must be Ahl sunnah not khowaarij like bokoharam,ISIS I.e if those group arr muslims and not political instruments. |
Re: Sufism In Ilorin ; A Struggle For Survival.. by carinmom(f): 2:56pm On May 05, 2017 |
HAH: Munga mai guduma, kaima zaka yi ka gama 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Sufism In Ilorin ; A Struggle For Survival.. by Rilwayne001: 2:56pm On May 05, 2017 |
Demmzy15: 1 Like
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Re: Sufism In Ilorin ; A Struggle For Survival.. by Nobody: 2:57pm On May 05, 2017 |
Azerbella: No...you can't send me a PM sorry, but you can reach me through this thread....https://www.nairaland.com/1464370/mikey-friends-chat-lounge/106 we can discuss whatever (pertaining discovering Allaah) you want there.....hope you not offended? |
Re: Sufism In Ilorin ; A Struggle For Survival.. by Azerbella(f): 2:57pm On May 05, 2017 |
AbdelKabir:Haha..Not at all. |
Re: Sufism In Ilorin ; A Struggle For Survival.. by Nobody: 2:59pm On May 05, 2017 |
carinmom: I no hear wetin you talk, but I dash you like and share, cuz I'm certain it's going to he brutal on that individual especially you putting this ""..... How is faatimah? 3 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Sufism In Ilorin ; A Struggle For Survival.. by Nobody: 3:00pm On May 05, 2017 |
Azerbella: Baarakallaahu feeki.....(may Allaah bless you.) *modified * Remember to keep in touch.... 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Sufism In Ilorin ; A Struggle For Survival.. by Mofpearl: 3:01pm On May 05, 2017 |
Azerbella: I think the bolded is a good sign. I find that one of the things that can increase ones's interest in the Qur'an is knowing the meanings and reading the tafsir of the surah. Listening and reflecting on the words also help too. Making loads of istighfar and dua asking Allah to purify my heart helps me as well. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Sufism In Ilorin ; A Struggle For Survival.. by Basic123: 3:01pm On May 05, 2017 |
HAH:Search for knowledge,and get convinced that Ahl sunnah dont promote terrorism as you claim.it even insultive to compare suufi to Ahl sunnah.Didn't Abu bakri,Umar,uthman,Ali etc practice islaam without Ahmada tijaani and ibrahiim niyyaas and their pictures an maolud nabiyy.Going than memory lane suufi of Ibrahim niyyaas and co are not part of Islam.Simple!!! |
Re: Sufism In Ilorin ; A Struggle For Survival.. by Nobody: 3:06pm On May 05, 2017 |
Basic123: That fellow is a Sufi, don't mind him, he is using the taqiyyah he learnt from his Shi'a friends..... 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Sufism In Ilorin ; A Struggle For Survival.. by fasmukol: 3:11pm On May 05, 2017 |
Adek15:We all should just be praying to Allah to guide us aright and be praying to Allah to guide our brothers too to His right path of Sunnah of the holy prophet. Also, we should desist from making jest of them because Allah said in Suratul nissa (Q4: V94) "....... thus was how you were before but Allah confered on you His favour". Therefore, let us keep on asking Allah for their guidance as well as trying to do da'wah to them by showing them the beauty of sunnah through our actions and sayings. 1 Like |
Re: Sufism In Ilorin ; A Struggle For Survival.. by farouk2much(m): 3:12pm On May 05, 2017 |
You people will die.......... TIJJANIYYA is unstopable.......
TIJJANIYYA is taking over the world
Izala is fake sunnah people with tri-quater 2 Likes |
Re: Sufism In Ilorin ; A Struggle For Survival.. by carinmom(f): 3:14pm On May 05, 2017 |
AbdelKabir: Lolz, jazakallah khayran for the liking and sharing, Fatima is fine. I was reminding him that we've seen the likes of " Mai guduma" (Hammer wielding) sufi who was always swearing with Quran on his head and praying to Allah to be crushed to death if Ahlus sunnah were on the right path and of course he died in an accident. |
Re: Sufism In Ilorin ; A Struggle For Survival.. by Nobody: 3:15pm On May 05, 2017 |
carinmom: You see, its really brutal..... Help me greet faatimah..... 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Sufism In Ilorin ; A Struggle For Survival.. by Azerbella(f): 3:20pm On May 05, 2017 |
AbdelKabir:I will 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Sufism In Ilorin ; A Struggle For Survival.. by Azerbella(f): 3:22pm On May 05, 2017 |
Mofpearl:Thank you. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Sufism In Ilorin ; A Struggle For Survival.. by carinmom(f): 3:34pm On May 05, 2017 |
AbdelKabir: Hahaha.... Okay....I will insha'Allah, thanks. 2 Likes |
Re: Sufism In Ilorin ; A Struggle For Survival.. by Zaitoon: 3:36pm On May 05, 2017 |
As far as I'm concern if I practice Any sunnah of prophet Muhammad (pbuh), then I'm al sunnah. But some self acclaimed Al sunnah brothers do threatened someone with hell fire. They feel they are most righteous and purest in the sight of Allah. My dad employed an Al sunnah brothers for Quranic memorization for me and my brothers. That's how this brother always threatened us with hell fire. It got to a point he told us kneeling down to greet our parents is a shirk and the penalty is hell fire. That's when my younger brother starts Mis behaving when greeting our parents and dad terminated his appointment. Hehehe and some khimar sisters too, they won't want to answer Salamah if you are not on khimar like them. If I say Salamah to you and you did not answer and I was sure my voice was loud enough I will confront you instantly 5 Likes |
Re: Sufism In Ilorin ; A Struggle For Survival.. by billagreen(m): 3:38pm On May 05, 2017 |
Azerbella: Sufism..I was once an ardent believer in Sufism. But now I don't know what I am... Neither Sunni nor Sufi Could someone help me with that prayer verse the Prophet recommended for when you feel you are straying away from Allah? Go back to the Quran day and night and fast as sawm |
Re: Sufism In Ilorin ; A Struggle For Survival.. by faaboy: 3:41pm On May 05, 2017 |
Everything is timed, the era of the Wahabbiya is to go a natural extinction Now, Look at the crowd at NIASSE day... with all the Wahabbi (Self acclaimed Ahlu Sunna propaganda) the Tijaaniyyah fold keeps increasing geometrically. Ignorance is a deadly disease which is curable Sheikh Ibrahim Niasse (1st Vice President of World Muslim League) is the revival of the Sunna. Which of your scholars was/is internationally recognized by the World Muslim League. Go and read his unmatchable impact on Islam... from Fatwas to travelling (he met the Pope, Queen of England and a countless others to preach Islam for them) Where were your Tekfiri scholars then. please just read about this Noble man and you'll be effaced from darkness although most of you guys have been programmed negatively Al your default software has no room to accommodate reality/truth any longer. The Prophet SAW asked us to seek knowledge but you guys heed not as only your scholars opinion matters most... Subhanallah!!! May Allah lead you to the straight path To the Sufists, the answer is already here, with all propaganda, we keep increasing, The Prophet SAW said "his Umma will never gather themselves on what is bad"... those millions are the true lovers of the most Beloved SAW... Please pay no attention to the noise rather face your Rabb and increase in nearness to him WA Salaam alaykum warohmotulloh wabarokaatuhu beloved brethren AbdulHafeez. 4 Likes |
Re: Sufism In Ilorin ; A Struggle For Survival.. by faaboy: 3:52pm On May 05, 2017 |
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Re: Sufism In Ilorin ; A Struggle For Survival.. by Nobody: 3:55pm On May 05, 2017 |
I'm replying you because I've never seen you here before... Zaitoon: That's not all that correct, Ahl sunnah wal jamaa'ah are people who follow the understanding of the sahabas(companions of the prophet) in everything they do with regards the deen, why? Because the prophet specially said, the ones with the correct methodology are those who are upon what him and his companions were upon and this is the jamaa'ah... But some self acclaimed Al sunnah brothers do threatened someone with hell fire. I can't defend everybody on issue of being "purest" but many of these brothers that do dawah don't do it for that sake, but to please Allaah, and you don't know their intent so its best you don't suspect, "beware of suspicion for suspicion is the highest degree of falsehood" ~ Muhammad.. And as for threatening, Allaah threatened us with fire in many places in the Qur'an, the messengers are called WARNERS AND GLAD TIDINGS GIVERS in the Qur'an, so that's non-issue My dad employed an Al sunnah brothers for Quranic memorization for me and my brothers. That's how this brother always threatened us with hell fire. Kneeling down is haraam, being shirk is subject to further discussion since scholars differ on it, but the superior opinion with me is it's not shirk, but its haraam, kneeling down being haraam has lots of evidences do you want them? Hehehe and some khimar sisters too, they won't want answers Salamah if you not on khimar like them. Can't defend them either, IF your look is not islamical then I can't blame them, they might not recognize you to be a Muslim... *I hope that last statement won't be misunderstood*... |
Re: Sufism In Ilorin ; A Struggle For Survival.. by CagedSoul: 4:03pm On May 05, 2017 |
AbdelKabir:u want to criticize me cos I didn't write the Arabic word even when everyone types in English, here? Like u mean writing the English-transliteration has automatically made an ignorant of the Arabic Lang? Well lemme play with u small let's play with u small U told me I can't write the tasawwuf word in Arabic, so for that u can't debate with me cause I don't know Arabic, right? Now over to u, from the posts u drop here, one can deduce the fact that you studied sharia in Nigeria(Western part) which leads us to the fact that u also studied Ur sharia with English lang, and I'm 1000% sure that u don't have d arabic-version of the sharia u studied in English, wrong? In fact I don't think u can read an Arabic book, can u? Knowing all this, should that stop me from arguing with u? Since u claim because I don't know d Arabic word of tasawwuf u can't debate with me, I should also be claiming since u studied sharia in English language and - assuming I studied mine in arabic- I shouldn't argue with u? Now u see the flaws in Ur previous post? I had to come this low to explain cos I'm not sure u would understand. 1 Like |
Re: Sufism In Ilorin ; A Struggle For Survival.. by Nobody: 4:16pm On May 05, 2017 |
CagedSoul: Studying mathematics......so all your "shariah law" analysis is nonsense...... What a waste... By the way you weren't brilliant enough to understand what I meant by my statement, you wrote "tassawuff" giving "saad" a "shaddah" and "faa" a "shaddah" whereas its actually "waaw" that has a "shaddah" and not "saad" and "faa"..... Its tasawwuf... 1 Like |
Re: Sufism In Ilorin ; A Struggle For Survival.. by CagedSoul: 4:31pm On May 05, 2017 |
Dude why are doing this to urself AbdelKabir:Okay here we go. Replying her cause U've never seen her here before? Is this statement ethically and Islamically right? AhluSunnah Wal Jamaaha are those who follow the companions? Dude u are so wrong. Using Ur ideology, where did u put those after the companions and those after them too? Even after the Prophet stated that in his words? Assuming the AhluSunnah Wal Jamaaha are those who follow d companions only, if the kinda following u meant is 100% following, then We should be practicing Islam the way they jus did it, all these Islamic fields of knowledge wouldn't have reached us if we did, but If u intend following them and following the Quran and hadith, then u are right,because Allah has perfected the roots of this peaceful religion through Quran and hadith, it's up to us learn their meaning and not preach the rigid Islam u want to sell to us. In short, AhluSunnah way Jamaaha are those adhering to the teachings of Quran and Hadiths(that includes d sahabah, doz after them, doz after them, and every righteous Muslim following the instructions of the Holy book and hadith. 3 Likes |
Re: Sufism In Ilorin ; A Struggle For Survival.. by CagedSoul: 4:40pm On May 05, 2017 |
AbdelKabir:dude why are u doing this to urself First of all check the way I spelt" tasawwuf" in the text u quoted. The first ones were simply unintended errors. But then what harm would that kinda typo cause even when the message has been clearly received Mathematics? Alhaji Kabiru pls don't ever post anything that has to do with Islam on this forum again. I even thought dude was studying Islamic studies mani ké.. This is no insult, let the specialist handle it.. Pls. No wonder. And to think that u rejected my debate request makes me want to run mad.. Don't ever mention my moniker again. Pls.. 1 Like |
Re: Sufism In Ilorin ; A Struggle For Survival.. by blantyre: 4:47pm On May 05, 2017 |
AbdelKabir:Sufism is the real beauty of Islam. In fact it is its beauty that attracted lots of people in Asia, Indian subcontinent and Africa to the fold of Islam. If Sufism is loosing ground to hardline wahabism then I won't be surprised giving the wide spread acts of terror being committed in the name of Islamic jihad by people who erroneously think what they are doing is the sunnah. The more wahabism gain ground the more the division, the more the killings, the more the barbarism, the more Islam is hated and the more our beloved prophet and the Quran are abused. 1 Like |
Re: Sufism In Ilorin ; A Struggle For Survival.. by usmanktg2(m): 4:48pm On May 05, 2017 |
It is a great pity for Nairaland that ignorant people like AbdelKabir are allowed to post anything concerning Islam or Sufism... 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Sufism In Ilorin ; A Struggle For Survival.. by CagedSoul: 5:06pm On May 05, 2017 |
Henceforth I will stop quoting u cos u clearly know nothing. But that won't stop me from refuting the trash u posted up there. First of all. It's not right to tell me people they will enter hell fire if they do this or that. And Ur proof is baseless. Yes Allah threatened us with it and the Prophet also did. Pls point out a proof where the Allah approved it for us. Trying to compare us with the Prophet is قياس مع الفارق. And come to thing of it, there's a difference between telling people that you will definitely enter he'll if u commit this offense, and reminding people that Allah has created hell to treat with equality His sinners and paradise to compensate His followers. If my memory doesn't fail me there are even hadiths that preach against it. Bottom line is that. U didn't create this hellfire, u don't have to say with all certainty that I will enter hell because I committed a crime, simply call me a sinner, that's all. If one isn't careful self with all these kinda one might attain Allah's anger.(ask me how, don't quote me anyhow). 2. U see urself.. U said kneeling down is Haram but u don't see it as shirk those that call it Haram - with proofs- tag it shirk too. Bring Ur proofs for not tagging it as shirk. My observation here is that u are trying to balance BTW the proofs of those that see it as haram and those that see nothing bad in it cause they see it as a culture that's not against the fundamentals of Islam, alongside their many other strong proofs. If u want to balance BTW these two, then tag it as مكروه تنزيها عند الأحناف ومكروه عند الجمهور. Assuming she ain't a Muslim, are there no other ways Islam taught us to deal with dt kinda situation? A simple "hey" "hiii" good afternoon"woulda helped matters. Don't u think? Bottom line: Islam is so big that you can be guided if u follow the true rulings of Allah, likewise one can lose his way in Islam if u do the other. That's Islam for u. And stop preaching rigid Islam 1 Like |
Re: Sufism In Ilorin ; A Struggle For Survival.. by Raintaker(m): 5:21pm On May 05, 2017 |
Assalam alaykum wa rahmtullahi was baraka tu . What I can deduce from all these arguments is that the Ahlu sunnah people are the same as the MSS people, they are the same people who say that buy a Carton of peak milk and give to your mother, this replaces the milk you sucked from her (astagafurulah) so you have no obligations towards her again. One can't but imagine why the boko haram sect refer to themselves as Ahlu sunnah wa jamah. Most of these people argue blindly without even knowing the essence of Islam. I'm not a suffi, but when I found out the real essence of tassawuf which is Ihsan, I couldn't help but agree that they are Muslims. 3 Likes |
Re: Sufism In Ilorin ; A Struggle For Survival.. by PeacenLove2: 5:27pm On May 05, 2017 |
The mystery is why everyone who claims to know a loving God can't just get along. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Sufism In Ilorin ; A Struggle For Survival.. by Amoto94(m): 5:31pm On May 05, 2017 |
Only an ignoramus or a treacherous individual will regard Sufism as the straight path. |
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