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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by odimbannamdi(m): 9:59pm On Jan 23, 2023
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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by zeestone99(m): 1:56am On Jan 24, 2023
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The battery mode allows you to bypass mains and not charge your battery. This is good for my solar power folks that worry about inverter consuming their phcn units.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by samir101ng(m): 8:54am On Jan 24, 2023
FEGEITOK:
What's the consensus on GA Solar?

As good as Jinko?

I am guessing you are referring to JA Solar.

They are also a Tier-1 rated solar panel. Their 550W panel and above use their Deep Blue 3.0 technology.

However, i also highly recommend Trina Solar Panels. They have an authorized distributor Solarpowertal & website you can order from.

They currently stock 380W and 540W panels. I particularly like the 540W Vertex panels because they have the largest cells at 210mm compared to the competition.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by bigrovar(m): 10:28am On Jan 24, 2023
samir101ng:


I am guessing you are referring to JA Solar.

They are also a Tier-1 rated solar panel. Their 550W panel and above use their Deep Blue 3.0 technology.

However, i also highly recommend Trina Solar Panels. They have an authorized distributor Solarpowertal & website you can order from.

They currently stock 380W and 540W panels. I particularly like the 540W Vertex panels because they have the largest cells at 210mm compared to the competition.

Canadian solar also has the 210 mm wafer for their hiku7 series of solar panels. They are in the same class as Trina vertex panels
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ojeysky(m): 12:15pm On Jan 24, 2023
isangjohnson:

Insufficient pv is also a reason for not discharging up to that. People like to take out what they can comfortably put in.

Perhaps you meant insufficient PV and storage? I think one should know that occasionally you may need to deep discharge especially with lithium where it doesn't hurt.

It does not necessarily mean insufficient PV as infact the bank could have been full before sundown and by next morning you are at 10% SOC left. Should that be planned with? no as I personally use 80% to plan lifepo4 but you need to ensure your system can safely go that far whenever it's required.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by FEGEITOK: 12:21pm On Jan 24, 2023
samir101ng:


I am guessing you are referring to JA Solar.

They are also a Tier-1 rated solar panel. Their 550W panel and above use their Deep Blue 3.0 technology.

However, i also highly recommend Trina Solar Panels. They have an authorized distributor Solarpowertal & website you can order from.

They currently stock 380W and 540W panels. I particularly like the 540W Vertex panels because they have the largest cells at 210mm compared to the competition.

I really appreciate this.

The inability to see Jinko 540 or 550 watts and not knowing its equivalents has been a sore thorn in my side.

Will review both brands and make my choice
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by FEGEITOK: 12:33pm On Jan 24, 2023
bigrovar:


Canadian solar also has the 210 mm wafer for their hiku7 series of solar panels. They are in the same class as Trina vertex panels

In other words, whether I go Canadian or Trina.

I can't go wrong!

Thanks.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Pierresmit101: 12:48pm On Jan 24, 2023
Solar is the future
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Trippledots(m): 2:01pm On Jan 24, 2023
Trippledots:
Hi,
I have 2 brand new Jinko 470W panels for urgent sale #100k/pc.
Location is isolo-ejigbo on the mainland.
Monocrystaline panels.

Update: sold

hello guys,
2pcs, 470w, brand new, half cut, original jinko same as above available. #130k/pc
1pc, 370w, brand new but with some cosmetic scurfs on the frame available..#110k/pc
.
.
Any buyer picking all three at once gets a little discount. location is ikotun, Lagos.

Update: 470w*2pcs SOLD
370w still available. NB: cracked but working panel of close wattage also available if needed to pair with this, and the price of the cracked one is negotiable on request.

Thanks.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Keemie(f): 2:02pm On Jan 24, 2023
Someone should please recommend a good Lifepo4 battery charger.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Hybrid600: 2:40pm On Jan 24, 2023
Valto

Keemie:
Someone should please recommend a good Lifepo4 battery charger.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by zeestone99(m): 8:59pm On Jan 24, 2023
FEGEITOK:


In other words, whether I go Canadian or Trina.

I can't go wrong!

Thanks.

Of course. They are all tier1 panels. I remember back then people on this forum dissed jinko, it took a lot of convincing to educate them that panels are rated by their categories and not name.
Some b like what kind of name is jinko. It must be fake and only Canadian Solar is original grin
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by FEGEITOK: 9:26pm On Jan 24, 2023
zeestone99:


Of course. They are all tier1 panels. I remember back then people on this forum dissed jinko, it took a lot of convincing to educate them that panels are rated by their categories and not name.
Some b like what kind of name is jinko. It must be fake and only Canadian Solar is original grin

thanks.

Will do business with you in the second quarter of 2023

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by topsy23: 10:12pm On Jan 24, 2023

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by zeestone99(m): 12:42am On Jan 25, 2023
FEGEITOK:


thanks.

Will do business with you in the second quarter of 2023

Thanks boss
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by zeestone99(m): 12:47am On Jan 25, 2023
Snadi 5kva 48v - 345k
Snadi 5kva 24v - 345k

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by toyeoye(m): 2:48am On Jan 25, 2023
Hello good people, I wonder why no one talks about the huge amount of units consumed through charging the batteries if your setup is tied to the grid.
Na die o! in my opinion doesn't make sense right now because the point of going solar is to save money eventually.
This doesn't apply to folks using
only backup generator to supplement production during long stretches of outage.
Please share your experiences, thanks

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by contease(m): 4:12am On Jan 25, 2023
toyeoye:
Hello good people, I wonder why no one talks about the huge amount of units consumed through charging the batteries if your setup is tied to the grid.
Na die o! in my opinion doesn't make sense right now because the point of going solar is to save money eventually.
This doesn't apply to folks using
only backup generator to supplement production during long stretches of outage.
Please share your experiences, thanks

You are not alone bro... At some point, I had to look through the grid source lines after my meter to be sure neighbour's are not tapping my line, but of course, it's almost impossible because all cables are conduit just after the meter.

So seating down to analyse, what I see happening is that, we pay for grid even when no national grid.

Assuming you have 100% charge of your battery, and grid goes out to the time your battery becomes 50%, once grid is restored, your battery begins to charge while your appliances are also in use, this process draws so much current to fill in the gap on both the battery and the appliances..., putting off the inverter once grid is off or putting off basic appliances makes no sense otherwise what's the need to having a non stop power supply going solar... The only way out is to use the sun via panels

Sincerely, I think this is it... Let's wait for the SMEs to tell us more!
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by toyeoye(m): 4:55am On Jan 25, 2023
contease:


You are not alone bro... At some point, I had to look through the grid source lines after my meter to be sure neighbour's are not tapping my line, but of course, it's almost impossible because all cables are conduit just after the meter.

So seating down to analyse, what I see happening is that, we pay for grid even when no national grid.

Assuming you have 100% charge of your battery, and grid goes out to the time your battery becomes 50%, once grid is restored, your battery begins to charge while your appliances are also in use, this process draws so much current to fill in the gap on both the battery and the appliances..., putting off the inverter once grid is off or putting off basic appliances makes no sense otherwise what's the need to having a non stop power supply going solar... The only way out is to use the sun via panels

Sincerely, I think this is it... Let's wait for the SMEs to tell us more!

Lol @checking if your lines were tapped but I feel you 100%. You're on point bro, surely there has to be a way around this.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by FEGEITOK: 5:00am On Jan 25, 2023
toyeoye:
Hello good people, I wonder why no one talks about the huge amount of units consumed through charging the batteries if your setup is tied to the grid.
Na die o! in my opinion doesn't make sense right now because the point of going solar is to save money eventually.
This doesn't apply to folks using
only backup generator to supplement production during long stretches of outage.
Please share your experiences, thanks

How much are you spending a month on this?
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by toyeoye(m): 5:04am On Jan 25, 2023
FEGEITOK:


How much are you spending a month on this?

Appx 15k a week when I'm extremely cautious chief...what's your experience?
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by FEGEITOK: 5:08am On Jan 25, 2023
toyeoye:


Appx 15k a week when I'm extremely cautious chief...what's your experience?

10k a week without AC,

10k a day if I turn on the AC
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by toyeoye(m): 5:17am On Jan 25, 2023
FEGEITOK:


10k a week without AC,

10k a day if I turn on the AC

Very interesting!
There has to be a way forward sir
Folks trying to jump on the solar bandwagon TAKE NOTE

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by FEGEITOK: 5:30am On Jan 25, 2023
toyeoye:


Very interesting!
There has to be a way forward sir
Folks trying to jump on the solar bandwagon TAKE NOTE

I wanted to go big.

You can start small.

Get top tier panels.

Get a decent charge controller, not necessarily the one with all the bells and whistles.

More cost effective than paying PHCN.

The other issue is that I slowed down to really understand the solar ecosystem before plunging funds into it

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by toyeoye(m): 5:34am On Jan 25, 2023
FEGEITOK:


I wanted to go big.

You can start small.

Get top tier panels.

Get a decent charge controller, not necessarily the one with all the bells and whistles.

More cost effective than paying PHCN.

The other issue is that I slowed down to really understand the solar ecosystem before plunging funds into it


I agree, going big will ensure the system can sustain itself without the need to be grid tied but how many people can go big at once?

No one tells the regular 5kv 24v system guy that this is a problem to take note of
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by FEGEITOK: 5:38am On Jan 25, 2023
toyeoye:


I agree, going big will ensure the system can sustain itself without the need to be grid tied but how many people can go big at once?

No one tells the regular 5kv 24v system guy that this is a problem to take note of

I also diverted the funds to fund another major purchase.

So I have to refill the financial tank.

Not everyone has the luxury of taking on several massive projects at once

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by NiyiOmoIyunade(m): 5:49am On Jan 25, 2023
There is an algorithm called Energy Storage System (ESS) on the Victron side that prioritises solar and battery usage over grid. Grid is essentially a tap that can be opened full throttle or restricted as the user wishes - you could be running 3000w of loads and only using 120w of grid for example. The grid behaviour is SoC driven and the system can be set not to charge batteries from the grid.

The Axpert and Deye type inverters also have a more coarse algorithm called 'SBU priority' - there are also a couple of other iterations of this scheme. Essentially solar and battery usage come first then you set the low battery voltage level at which the system defaults to back to grid usage.

All these schemes let you manage your grid usage else with a basic inverter, grid is being used to run all loads and charge battery even when solar is available and sufficient at that time window which is a terrible waste. People manually switch off the mains or use a battery sensing relay + contactor to disconnect mains as they see fit.

One area where the Victron ESS excels is that you can set a miserly use of PHCN units and simultaneously set the system to very greedily gobble up available energy if your Gen is on - you get the best of both worlds as well as the ability to adjust these settings on the fly.


toyeoye:
Hello good people, I wonder why no one talks about the huge amount of units consumed through charging the batteries if your setup is tied to the grid.
Na die o! in my opinion doesn't make sense right now because the point of going solar is to save money eventually. ...

Please share your experiences, thanks

contease:


You are not alone bro... At some point, I had to look through the grid source lines after my meter to be sure neighbour's are not tapping my line, but of course, it's almost impossible because all cables are conduit just after the meter.

So seating down to analyse, what I see happening is that, we pay for grid even when no national grid.

Assuming you have 100% charge of your battery, and grid goes out to the time your battery becomes 50%, once grid is restored, your battery begins to charge while your appliances are also in use, this process draws so much current to fill in the gap on both the battery and the appliances..., putting off the inverter once grid is off or putting off basic appliances makes no sense otherwise what's the need to having a non stop power supply going solar... The only way out is to use the sun via panels

Sincerely, I think this is it... Let's wait for the SMEs to tell us more!

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by toyeoye(m): 5:57am On Jan 25, 2023
NiyiOmoIyunade:
There is an algorithm called Energy Storage System (ESS) on the Victron side that prioritises solar and battery usage over grid. Grid is essentially a tap that can be opened full throttle or restricted as the user wishes - you could be running 3000w of loads and only using 120w of grid for example. The grid behaviour is SoC driven and the system can be set not to charge batteries from the grid.

The Axpert and Deye type inverters also have a more coarse algorithm called 'SBU priority' - there are also a couple of other iterations of this scheme. Essentially solar and battery usage come first then you set the low battery voltage level at which the system defaults to back to grid usage.

All these schemes let you manage your grid usage else with a basic inverter, grid is being used to run all loads and charge battery even when solar is available and sufficient at that time window which is a terrible waste. People manually switch off the mains or use a battery sensing relay + contactor to disconnect mains as they see fit.

One area where the Victron ESS excels is that you can set a miserly use of PHCN units and simultaneously set the system to very greedily gobble up available energy if your Gen is on - you get the best of both worlds as well as the ability to adjust these settings on the fly.






This makes sense! Strong selling point and reason to get a Victron inverter I guess. While we ponder on this option/save up to get one, we're on our own?
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by FEGEITOK: 6:17am On Jan 25, 2023
toyeoye:


This makes sense! Strong selling point and reason to get a Victron inverter I guess. While we ponder on this option/save up to get one, we're on our own?

Provided that solar panels are connected.

My puny inverter will prioritize solar over grid.

The issue is that the inverter has a PWM charge controller and I know that an MPPT is better.

So that is certainly an option if you don't mind the low yields of PWM charge controller.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by toyeoye(m): 6:43am On Jan 25, 2023
FEGEITOK:


Provided that solar panels are connected.

My puny inverter will prioritize solar over grid.

The issue is that the inverter has a PWM charge controller and I know that an MPPT is better.

So that is certainly an option if you don't mind the low yields of PWM charge controller.

I have a famicare inverter and another external Yohako 100a. mppt CC and they don't seem to have a flexible ESS, SBU or similar algorithms Mr Niyi mentioned that will enable me to prioritise solar and batteries ahead of the grid.
The problem might not lie with your PVM but the inverter specs


I stand to be corrected
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by NiyiOmoIyunade(m): 8:13am On Jan 25, 2023
The Axpert family e.g Felicity, Zinox, Gennex, Sorotec, Phocos, Steca and all their grey market and rebrand ilk have some sort of solar then battery then utility priority built into them.

These also come with decent MPPTs built in.

The problem with the el cheapos is not a lack of features but rather scrimping on protections and critical ratings, poor isolation of the electronics and internals, flaky/buggy behaviour and a lack of robustness to deliver the promised performance long term.


toyeoye:


I have a famicare inverter and another external Yohako 100a. mppt CC and they don't seem to have a flexible ESS, SBU or similar algorithms Mr Niyi mentioned that will enable me to prioritise solar and batteries ahead of the grid.
The problem might not lie with your PVM but the inverter specs


I stand to be corrected

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