dapsyra:


Just don't try it! I have one that I pushed to the maximum power about a year ago. It rewarded me with the proverbial magic smoke. It still power-on but can no longer make power

ojeysky:


If they are both going to the battery terminal and the voltage for ipowerplus is maintained for the CC then it should be fine. I once had an experience with a friend's setup; the powmr we got allowed more than 75v but because the mercury hybrid can't do more than that, things went south until we kept array within the mercury hybrid CC Voc

ojeysky:


If they are both going to the battery terminal and the voltage for ipowerplus is maintained for the CC then it should be fine. I once had an experience with a friend's setup; the powmr we got allowed more than 75v but because the mercury hybrid can't do more than that, things went south until we kept array within the mercury hybrid CC Voc

NiyiOmoIyunade:
Does this imply that you tried to use one PV array with two different charge controllers at thesame time? This is a very bad thing to do - I am struggling to understand why the PV voltage on one CC affects the performance of another CC.

You can have as many CCs as you want connected to one battery bank so long as the battery can safely absorb their combined amps output. But you should never connect thesame PV array to more than one CC.

In my case I have 4 independent PV arrays and charge controllers connected to my battery bank. I may add a fifth CC soon.

Ceaser01:


https:///product/bts-energy-quick-e-1-0kva-pure-sine-wave-inverter-with-in-built-avr-function-12v-3485032

Posting the link with the alternate account in case it gets banned.

litaninja:
Over the course of the weekend, installed my setup working with an installer and justcallmenuel supplying batteries.
6 x 250W Jinko Poly Panels
1 MPP Solar 3024GK
2 x Venus 200AH Batteries
Breakers, the standard Nigeria inverter knife switch , etc.

So far, looking good.

ToDo:
- Shift those batteries small...the way they are bent is bending my brain.
- Setup monitoring either via an ESP32 wireless board or RPi
- Integrate monitoring with HomeAssistant running on another RPi

Big ups to the forum for keeping this going for about a decade now...

NiyiOmoIyunade:
Does this imply that you tried to use one PV array with two different charge controllers at thesame time? This is a very bad thing to do - I am struggling to understand why the PV voltage on one CC affects the performance of another CC.

You can have as many CCs as you want connected to one battery bank so long as the battery can safely absorb their combined amps output. But you should never connect thesame PV array to more than one CC.

In my case I have 4 independent PV arrays and charge controllers connected to my battery bank. I may add a fifth CC soon.

ojeysky:


No he was not using the inbuilt CC of the hybrid, the hybrid was just serving as normal inverter.



This should indeed be normal behaviour but in that particular case it didn't work, and since ipowerplus is somewhat is being talked about I thought I should mention that experience.

Ceaser01:


https:///product/bts-energy-quick-e-1-0kva-pure-sine-wave-inverter-with-in-built-avr-function-12v-3485032

Posting the link with the alternate account in case it gets banned.

mahkanjuh:


Thanks so much boss
Please, can this 1kva power a freezer of 110w?

ceaser:


I'm very sure he doesn't imply connecting one panel array to drive two CCs simultaneously. That's one of the basic things one learns not to do on the journey. In fact the wiring of one array to 2 CCs will be one I can't wrap my head around.

I think he meant that the the ipowerplus and PowMr both have their independent array, but the panel array for the PowMr exceeded that allowable for the IpowerPlus but within the acceptable limit for the PowMr. The resultant error was only corrected when they were forced to reconfigure the PowMr array, sacrifice it and therefore underutilize the 150v voltage limit of the PowMr to allow for the 75v ipowerplus not to be confused.

Speaking of which I actually bumped into a YT video of a hybrid inverter with two different CCs installed inside it and the two CCs receive their input from two different arrays. The output AC of the inverter is split phase into 120v (in two places) so that if you are in regions with 100v to 120vac, you just connect to one phase but if you are in Nigeria for example you connect the two 120vac phases across to get your 240vac output voltage.

I'll see if I can retrieve the link.



Edited. I see you've responded.

ceaser:


PowMr no get version releases bro.
They just dey produce dey go. I fear if they decide to go the version way, it'll be a way to increase the price whereas all those version thingy na just a sweet-mouthing method to increase price.

MakeSkyBlue used to have fair prices like powMr with their version 113, but as soon as they begun their version 117 and 118 WiFi wàhálà their prices doubled that of PowMr.

Funny enough the two manufacturers are always at each other's neck one branding the other as making inferior imitation.

I own the two types - one 60A MakeSkyBlue and two PowMr. They are same form factor but with slight variations in info display and recently the inclusion of WiFi capability in the version 118 of MakeSkyBlue. Also when MakeSkyBlue reaches float, the screen blue light brightens up and the displayed info repeatedly alternates between battery voltage - Panel voltage - Temperature - load power. PowMr does not do that.

Performance of the two is at par in my opinion. On price, I don fashi MakeSkyBlue tey tey.

In fact, two weeks ago, I placed an order for another two units of PowMr 60A in prep for 48v upgrade. Now 32k including standard shipping due to covid19-dollar synergism (used to be 25k). I paid around 7k more for expedited delivery via DHL as standard shipping has been negatively impacted with Corona problem. MakeSkyBlue tops at 70k each.

PowMr 60A is available on Jiji and Jumia for around 45k.

essegis:


Thats a split phase inverter I think.

essegis:


Ceasar, are you saying the 118 version can be upgraded to have WiFi? Cos I am eyeing the 119 version of MakeSkyBlue only cos of the WiFi functionality. So make I just bone and go for the 118?

essegis:

Also, do I need a special tool for set up to charge Lithium with these MakeSkyBlue? Make I know so I can order once with them oo. Victron and ePever I have I had to purchase external tools for link up. Now I'm looking for a 3.81-4p connector to make the ePever link up after purchasing the Bluetooth dongle.

litaninja:
Over the course of the weekend, installed my setup working with an installer and justcallmenuel supplying batteries.
6 x 250W Jinko Poly Panels
1 MPP Solar 3024GK
2 x Venus 200AH Batteries
Breakers, the standard Nigeria inverter knife switch , etc.

So far, looking good.

ToDo:
- Shift those batteries small...the way they are bent is bending my brain.
- Setup monitoring either via an ESP32 wireless board or RPi
- Integrate monitoring with HomeAssistant running on another RPi

Big ups to the forum for keeping this going for about a decade now...

ceaser:


I never used this for a freezer for once, I only used it for basic electronics like TV, decoder and charging most which did not exceed 200 wards at any one time.

It may be able to power an inverter freezer since the initial surge is absent with those but rather slowly the condenser ramps up power to full speed.

For the regular freezers, it may be able to power the continuous draw, but it may have some challenge handling the surge which may be 5 times that declared 100 watts, but it's not absolute o. In fact I once had one cheap 1200 watts pure sine that only powers a 115 watts freezer on the 4th attempt each time I try to plug in the freezer. The earlier attempts, the overcurrent protection kicks in up till about a fifth attempt when the freezer now works.

I guess those previous attempts already primed the freezer condenser already so that a fifth start attempt will not draw as much current as the first.

A 12v 1.5kva will likely do it for you.

ceaser:


I'm very sure he doesn't imply connecting one panel array to drive two CCs simultaneously. That's one of the basic things one learns not to do on the journey. In fact the wiring of one array to 2 CCs will be one I can't wrap my head around.

I think he meant that the the ipowerplus and PowMr both have their independent array, but the panel array for the PowMr exceeded that allowable for the IpowerPlus but within the acceptable limit for the PowMr. The resultant error was only corrected when they were forced to reconfigure the PowMr array, sacrifice it and therefore underutilize the 150v voltage limit of the PowMr to allow for the 75v ipowerplus not to be confused.

Speaking of which I actually bumped into a YT video of a hybrid inverter with two different CCs installed inside it and the two CCs receive their input from two different arrays. The output AC of the inverter is split phase into 120v (in two places) so that if you are in regions with 100v to 120vac, you just connect to one phase but if you are in Nigeria for example you connect the two 120vac phases across to get your 240vac output voltage.

I'll see if I can retrieve the link.



Edited. I see you've responded. But how will the ipowerplus be misbehaving if the in-built MPPT is inactive? That doesn't really add up. I tjought the in-built MPPT being active with an external MPPT on one battery will be the same as having two different CCs charge one battery.

ceaser:


I never used this for a freezer for once, I only used it for basic electronics like TV, decoder and charging most which did not exceed 200 wards at any one time.

It may be able to power an inverter freezer since the initial surge is absent with those but rather slowly the condenser ramps up power to full speed.

For the regular freezers, it may be able to power the continuous draw, but it may have some challenge handling the surge which may be 5 times that declared 100 watts, but it's not absolute o. In fact I once had one cheap 1200 watts pure sine that only powers a 115 watts freezer on the 4th attempt each time I try to plug in the freezer. The earlier attempts, the overcurrent protection kicks in up till about a fifth attempt when the freezer now works.

I guess those previous attempts already primed the freezer condenser already so that a fifth start attempt will not draw as much current as the first.

A 12v 1.5kva will likely do it for you.

ceaser:


I'm very sure he doesn't imply connecting one panel array to drive two CCs simultaneously. That's one of the basic things one learns not to do on the journey. In fact the wiring of one array to 2 CCs will be one I can't wrap my head around.

I think he meant that the the ipowerplus and PowMr both have their independent array, but the panel array for the PowMr exceeded that allowable for the IpowerPlus but within the acceptable limit for the PowMr. The resultant error was only corrected when they were forced to reconfigure the PowMr array, sacrifice it and therefore underutilize the 150v voltage limit of the PowMr to allow for the 75v ipowerplus not to be confused.

Speaking of which I actually bumped into a YT video of a hybrid inverter with two different CCs installed inside it and the two CCs receive their input from two different arrays. The output AC of the inverter is split phase into 120v (in two places) so that if you are in regions with 100v to 120vac, you just connect to one phase but if you are in Nigeria for example you connect the two 120vac phases across to get your 240vac output voltage.

I'll see if I can retrieve the link.



Edited. I see you've responded. But how will the ipowerplus be misbehaving if the in-built MPPT is inactive? That doesn't really add up. I tjought the in-built MPPT being active with an external MPPT on one battery will be the same as having two different CCs charge one battery.

Namzy:

I'm confused. There's no way panel array connected to different mppt cc will cause problems so far you didn't exceed the Voc and current. Unless you are saying you can't configure the absorption and float for each or one of the CC. The only problem I encounter with my fangpusun is during equalization as my inverter shuts down when battery voltage gets to 31v

ceaser:


Lovely. Did you have a metal fabricator do that enclosure? I bet not the roadside ones cos they won't understand that diagram you put up there.

Are the extra fans temperature controlled or perpetually working?

ojeysky:


Welcome to the GK world, how early does your inverter wake up and sleep? I can inform you ahead that you may need to add at least 2 more panels later

spartacus11:


Probably one can boycott this with a generator. Why the generator is on powering the freezer for someinutes you quickly change over to the inverter.

ceaser:

It supports lithium charging out of the box. In the setting you will select "D01" which is the setting parameter for lithium which automatically puts the boost, charge and float voltages at 14.5v. You may have to edit the 14.5v to something like 14.1v though cos I noticed that with the 14.5v my BMS overcharge protect trips off at 14.4v. You may also have to increase the LVD value to 12v from the 10v default.

futurenix:
Please house, is anyone here using Jinko half cell solar panels ? Planning on getting some and Will appreciate your review on its performance .

litaninja:
Its one of those pre-made electrical cabinets readily available from the industrial electrical stores. Typically the stores have someone working with them or that they can refer you to make the necessary cutouts. Nothing too fancy needed, drilling machine, Dremel Saw & Hand file. This was one done at Alaba, from my experience with them, I just send a diagram, put a call across and explain & they're able to figure it out from there.
Fans are not temperature controlled (yet), and currently have a manual switch I can toggle as needed.
I'd be making a few purchases for sensors and smart stuff to integrate as time goes on.

kiekie1:


Hello, I will update more on these soon .. Stay tuned !!

koladeolutola:


@spartacus11@ceaser..Please I need some clarifications from you ...how can I reach u.... koladeolutola.ojo@gmail.com

ceaser:


Sent you mail.

But I'd advice that any questions bothering you are best asked where various minds with varying experiences will have inputs - a place like here, a purpose which this forum has greatly served. Even I can learn from such discourse.

koladeolutola:


Yet to get the mail...am a starter

I need a basic set up in lieu of Lumos... To power TV, decoder, light and fan

1. I am considering 200ah 12v battery, 12v1kva inverter, 2(150w) panels , charge controller? ...saw your neighbourhood testimonies and needed recommendations

ojeysky:


Welcome to the GK world, how early does your inverter wake up and sleep? I can inform you ahead that you may need to add at least 2 more panels later

ceaser:


I'm actually not acquiring two extra CCs for fun. That'll make five units in total. I think I'm expectant of whatever it throws at me from the experimenting. Don't see me as a destroyer o

@bolded. By pushing to the limit, do you mean that you overrated the voltage going into the CC or the amp from the panels? If it's the amps, by what margin did you go?



Thanks. This is informative.