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Re: What Is The Duration Of Annual Rent? by eagleeye2: 8:15am On Jul 16, 2017 |
haibe:The confusion is that you people are looking at the dates. If he moves in June 30th, 2017 the Landlord can decide to write June 2017 to May 2018 [notice that the particular date he moves in is not included] or the landlord may decide to write July 2017 to June 2018 (because he moved at the end of the month and it will be unfair to start counting from June). Again notice that it's just the months and not the dates. |
Re: What Is The Duration Of Annual Rent? by Ephort: 8:16am On Jul 16, 2017 |
eagleeye2:I'm a lawyer, and I tell you that any landlord that writes month without date is wrong. Tenancy is calculated by days not months. It expires on the "eve of the anniversary" of the date of payment. You may need to first know your right to be able to assert it. My current tenancy started form August 10, by August 9 this year, the rent expires. I'm not oblivious of some insane practices by landlords and property managers, but that doesn't change the law nor make it right. 5 Likes |
Re: What Is The Duration Of Annual Rent? by cajet: 8:24am On Jul 16, 2017 |
I am not about to start an argument with you. If you know any property lawyer, you can reach out to him to educate you on this. I rent apartments and have been doing so for some years now. Writing July 2017 to July 2018 is counting 13 months. If you do pay rents, you will notice that landlords hardly write July 14 2017 to July 13 2018. NO. They will rather write July 2017 to June 2018. What if by what you are saying, you renew the rent by that June, when will that also expire. May the following year abi? |
Re: What Is The Duration Of Annual Rent? by ndcide(m): 8:31am On Jul 16, 2017 |
All those counting months without the dates are cheats. You saw a house that has not been rented for one year, on 20 may, you negotiate and pay on 25 may, moved in on 30may, you now say by April 1st of the next year, your rent is due? Do you want God to punish you? Okay let's say you paid. -25 may 2015, -Landlord says you are due in, 1sr April 2016, you pay. - next year 2017,hell say you are due, 1st March 2015 abi? -and then in 2018,it becomes 1st February? Let's be honest jare, every landlord was a tenant. If you leave your domain, you are no longer a landlord, doubt it? Landlords, travel and see. A yearly cycle runs with days. That's how they have made a mess of the housing system with house rent now astronomical. Agents fee, agreement fee, caution fee and all bull shittt aimed at forcing money from people. A house of 150k is increased to 300k just to get high percentage on those criminal charges. Let's be honest, those of us in Lagos, have we had any benefit from such charges we paid along with the rent? I'm not happy with the responses on this thread. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: What Is The Duration Of Annual Rent? by eagleeye2: 8:33am On Jul 16, 2017 |
Ephort:I specifically said property lawyer. Those who actually deliberate in courts for disputes in property matters. You being a lawyer doesn't mean you know everything about property laws. I state again, I have been renting out apartments for years and I have even at a time, had this misunderstanding with a prospective tenant and I asked him to take the issue to his lawyer before we can proceed. So I should start counting days instead of months because you are a lawyer?. 2 Likes |
Re: What Is The Duration Of Annual Rent? by eagleeye2: 8:38am On Jul 16, 2017 |
cajet:What I am simply saying is that, your rent runs from July 2017 through June 2018. From 1st of July 2018, you rent would have been determined and that means you the tenant is the one owing me and I the landlord have no obligations towards you the tenant. For instance you cannot meet me to tell me that your roof is leaking and that i should do repairs for you. Comprende? |
Re: What Is The Duration Of Annual Rent? by NLProblemChild(m): 8:44am On Jul 16, 2017 |
otabuko:pls are u serious? How come? |
Re: What Is The Duration Of Annual Rent? by eagleeye2: 8:44am On Jul 16, 2017 |
Ephort:Mr lawyer, have you ever thought of why quit notice reads from say; 1st of May to 31st October? And not 14th of May to 13th of October. The same rule that applies in counting the duration of tenancy from 1st of the month (1st of January) to the 31st of the 12th month (31st December), applies in quit notices. |
Re: What Is The Duration Of Annual Rent? by NLProblemChild(m): 8:45am On Jul 16, 2017 |
calberian:pls are u serious? How come? |
Re: What Is The Duration Of Annual Rent? by moscobabs(m): 8:51am On Jul 16, 2017 |
akpamuomenka:Your rent dues on January 29 |
Re: What Is The Duration Of Annual Rent? by mapist(m): 8:59am On Jul 16, 2017 |
Odosa1: July 1st, 2017 to June 30th,2018. It should end a day before the date you moved in. |
Re: What Is The Duration Of Annual Rent? by bigtt76(f): 9:03am On Jul 16, 2017 |
Nor bi de same lawyers de draft the useless agreement? Or mislead the landlords? dingbang: 1 Like |
Re: What Is The Duration Of Annual Rent? by calberian: 9:08am On Jul 16, 2017 |
NLProblemChild: Oct 1 '15 to Sept 30 '17 is two yrs. If Oct 1 '17 to Oct 31 '17 is one month, Oct 1 '17 to Dec 31 '17 will be a three-month period. In the same vein, Jan 1 '18 to March 31 '18 is three months. So Oct 1 '17 to Mar 31 '18 is six months 1 Like |
Re: What Is The Duration Of Annual Rent? by calberian: 9:10am On Jul 16, 2017 |
mapist: Not the day he moved in but the day that the rent begins to count/run. A lot of folks move in much later than the date of commencement. |
Re: What Is The Duration Of Annual Rent? by opedaydydx9(m): 9:13am On Jul 16, 2017 |
Just a month diff shouldn't be a problem, my landlord wrote from January to December, I dint even bother a bit cause I knw ama pay before next January.... Wts th e fuss about pls |
Re: What Is The Duration Of Annual Rent? by calberian: 9:13am On Jul 16, 2017 |
moscobabs: In practice, if he paid on the 30th of January, the earliest possible date that the rent should begin to count is February 1. In some cases, grace is granted to the tenant (especially where there's some renovation to be done) to have his rent commence by Mar 1 |
Re: What Is The Duration Of Annual Rent? by fellom(m): 9:48am On Jul 16, 2017 |
Sowada:Amen ooo and me too ooo |
Re: What Is The Duration Of Annual Rent? by folmus: 10:04am On Jul 16, 2017 |
Oya, Why NYSC certificate dey carry same months e.g Feb 2007 -Feb 2008? Even thats what most employers do: If you start work in January, na January following year you be 1 year |
Re: What Is The Duration Of Annual Rent? by Ephort: 10:15am On Jul 16, 2017 |
eagleeye2:You don't really need to quote me if you don't know what you are saying. Quit notice reads 14th to 13th too. Have you even seen a tenancy agreement, ir do you think receipt is all you need. Tenancy agreement must read the particular date of commencement, not necessarily the date of payment. Why don't you pick up the tenancy law of your state and help yourself other than arguing blindly. FYI, I practiced as a litigation lawyer for a year and now I've been into property law practice for 4 years. Tenancy terminates on the eve of the anniversary of the starting date, and not first day of the starting month. 1 Like |
Re: What Is The Duration Of Annual Rent? by otabuko(m): 10:30am On Jul 16, 2017 |
NLProblemChild:1st October 2015- 30th September 2016[1 year] 1st October 2016 - 30th September 2017[2nd year] 1st October - 31st March 2018[half]. Sorry march 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: What Is The Duration Of Annual Rent? by eagleeye2: 10:35am On Jul 16, 2017 |
Ephort:Oga Lawyer, I do take in tenants and quit tenants as a Landlord. I don't need to argue with you on this. In fact my tenancy agreement reads ONE MONTH Notice to quit, if you don't like it you can check elsewhere. As a landlord I have seen wicked tenants who will like to twist the law at every turn to favor them. You can advice your client whatsoever that suit your fancy, in practice a landlord will determine what happens in his/her house. |
Re: What Is The Duration Of Annual Rent? by valarinz: 11:20am On Jul 16, 2017 |
eagleeye2: You claim to be a lawyer? And you say if I pay on the 14th of June my rent will expire on May next year? What an embarrassment to your profession I'm sure the house you rent out is the face me I face you types, no learned folk renting a decent apartment will take this your dumb shit While you keep cheating illetrates and feel smart about it, let your conscience judge you, bye 3 Likes |
Re: What Is The Duration Of Annual Rent? by KingsleyCEO: 12:01pm On Jul 16, 2017 |
dingbang: Is not a case of not being able to count properly they are just greedy. 2 Likes |
Re: What Is The Duration Of Annual Rent? by potent5(m): 12:39pm On Jul 16, 2017 |
Mynd44:Bros, are you a lawyer? Your reasoning is so sound and logical. Nice. |
Re: What Is The Duration Of Annual Rent? by potent5(m): 12:48pm On Jul 16, 2017 |
eagleeye2:With due respect, you are wrong. Different rules apply to duration of tenancy and notice to quit. A yearly tenancy must be for a duration of 365 days ( or 366 as the case may be). Anything less than that cannot be regarded as a yearly tenancy in law. 1 Like |
Re: What Is The Duration Of Annual Rent? by eagleeye2: 12:53pm On Jul 16, 2017 |
potent5:Ok Sir. In practice, I will love to see how many landlords saying I am wrong. |
Re: What Is The Duration Of Annual Rent? by potent5(m): 1:09pm On Jul 16, 2017 |
eagleeye2:Trust me, most of the things done by landlords can't scale through the legitimacy test in any court. They only bank on the ignorance of tenants. That's why most of them do not want lawyer-tenants. |
Re: What Is The Duration Of Annual Rent? by eagleeye2: 1:47pm On Jul 16, 2017 |
potent5:what if I told you that I have had lawyer tenants and this issue was not even debated. Abeg, I don tire to argue. Let everyone believe what suits them. But if the OP, is in doubt he can challenge his landlord in court. Am out of here. |
Re: What Is The Duration Of Annual Rent? by femi4: 2:56pm On Jul 16, 2017 |
MrBrownJay1:if you enter on the 1st of July, it ll expire at end of June next yr |
Re: What Is The Duration Of Annual Rent? by captain247: 3:56pm On Jul 16, 2017 |
Why is it only on rentage this method of calculation is applicable? If a document issued with a date say 29th of April 2012 and it's meant for 3yrs e. g drivers license or professional certificate the dates of expiry will be 28th of April 2015 and not calculated just as landlords calculate their rents. |
Re: What Is The Duration Of Annual Rent? by MrBrownJay1(m): 3:59pm On Jul 16, 2017 |
Mynd44: Bro, as Much as you are absoluty RIGHT, i believe that this is a failed way to draw a rental agreement. You see, if you deal in Months, then it could be misinterpreted by both renter/owner. A month has 30 dAys so when writing JUNE 2018, does it mean at the beginning of the month or end?! When does the person have to leave the place?! What day rent is due?! It's too vague, and confusing.... that's why it is much easier to have a specific date (and even time). 1 Like |
Re: What Is The Duration Of Annual Rent? by MrBrownJay1(m): 4:01pm On Jul 16, 2017 |
femi4: You are just repeating what I wrote |
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