Rossikki:
The British ruled Nigeria from 1897 to 1960.

Many folks on this site worship white people. So this question is for them.

If whites are these superhuman angels, why was Nigeria an underdeveloped bush at independence, without a single major power plant, expressway, university, stadium, hospital, or industry in existence? Why was illiteracy rate over 90%? (Compared to just 25% today, courtesy of African rule).

Why was there malnutrition, with children running around nake.d, and adults barefoot?


How come you inherited nothing from your grandparents?

Or great-grandparents?

They should have been bankers, lawyers, doctors, industrialists. Instead, they were village illiterates, despite the fact that the whites exported our resources - cocoa, groundnuts, tin, rubber, palm oil, timber, iron ore, coal, in large quantities yearly between 1897 and 1960. These commodities were the 'crude oil' of their day, drawing huge profits.

By all measurements, Nigeria should have been a reasonably developed nation at independence. Not an undeveloped bush with near zero infrastructure. Not even a power grid. Not even a single full fledged university.

By contrast, Goodluck Jonathan built 12 universities in just 5 years, and we still insult him!! (while loving the whites, who built....zero).

We have power cuts today? What about NO POWER AT ALL as was the case during colonialism, for over 95% of the population? Since no serious power plants were constructed?

AGAIN, IF THE WHITES ARE AS FANTASTIC AS YOU PEOPLE CLAIM, WHY DID WE NEED TO START FROM SCRATCH BUILDING INFRASTRUCTURE AND SCHOOLS AFTER THEY LEFT?

HADN'T THE SUPER WHITE ANGELS RULED FOR 63 YEARS NON-STOP? MAKING MONEY OFF OUR RESOURCES?

SO WHY DID THEY NOT DEVELOP NIGERIA?

WHAT DID THEY DO WITH ALL THE MONEY?

Fact is corruption REDUCED DRASTICALLY after independence.

I repeat:

Corruption REDUCED DRASTICALLY after independence.

That is why we have the country we have today, with some reasonable infrastructure here and there.

Prior to independence, corruption was STRATOSPHERIC.

90% or more of our export earnings went straight to London. When Nigerians took over, that fell to maybe 30%, which was why we were able to start building things like roads, bridges, flyovers, hospitals, universities, power plants, and all the other things we enjoy today.

SO WE MAY NOT BE PERFECT, BUT WE ARE MUCH BETTER OFF UNDER BLACK RULE THAN WE EVER WERE UNDER WHITE RULE.

And for those suggesting that whites should return and rule us, may thunder fire your collective nyashes. Maybe the illiteracy of your forbears was not enough for you. You want your children to revert to that level.

THANKS BUT NO THANKS!!!

I will recommend you read this book. WHY NATIONS FAIL

Rossikki:
50 years is a ridiculously short time to expect Nigeria to be an advanced country.

have you not heard of the story of SINGAPORE or is your brain paining you

jiangchu:


have you not heard of the story of SINGAPORE or is your brain paining you

Already addressed. Read the thread before posting. And worry about your brain not mine.

Rossikki:
The 4 or 5 Asian tigers are artificial creations of the west. This is easy to see when you consider that their neighbours and brothers of the same race, who were not 'chosen', like Burma, Cambodia, Laos, Nepal, the Phillipines, Bhutan, Mongolia, still live in relatively backward conditions. If it was a 'cultural thing' or a racial thing-which is what you really mean to say, then those nations would be similarly industrialised like South Korea. Why the MASSIVE difference? Answer: Artfificial western intervention. As for North Korea, they are just a satellite state of China, and it is Chinese technology transfer and economic assistance that keeps them militarily active as a foil to western adventurism in the region. If China abandons them, they will fall into mass starvation.

Artificial creation? Jesus Christ! You honestly make these Western countries look like gods and superhumans. What is funny is you don't see how you diminish your own people when you ascribe such omnipotent, omniscient power to them. And no, I was referring to nothing racial. I meant exactly the plain text I typed in using the term "cultural". That many Mongolians may prefer to inhabit the mountains as nomads and live primitively is different from a Korean republic or China driven by enterprise and open market global competitiveness. Japan was an industrialized regional superpower that had kicked the ass of China for centuries long before the post-war reconstruction aided by Western capital. That these countries are receptive to Western economic ideology and innovation and work ethic doesn't mean they were some kind of charity cases made rich by the West. Global economics is not a zero-sum game. The prosperity of Asian economic powers drive Western economies and they stand to profit from the success of as many successful nations as possible. That a country like Nigeria has remained backwards with little foreign investment has everything to do with unfavourable risk assessments that see many potential foreign investors fleeing. What, you think there is some kind of high-level conspiracy to keep Nigeria down when they would rather tap into the potential of a country with 200 million people? Square that bizarre logic with all the companies doing business in China.

And no, North Korea is no satellite state of |China. It's a common myth, but China wield little power over them. The little power they wield over them just happens to be more than the rest of the world can wield over an isolated regime. The crippling economic sanctions over North Korea are only successful because of China's help. And you're nuts if you think China would support a volatile, rogue regime mastering the use of nuclear weapons in its sphere of influence. Even Russia disarmed all its ex-Soviet member states of the nuclear weapons they had on the dissolution of the Soviet Union. Member states that Russians share a common heritage with and often have huge numbers of ethic Russians. North Korea's nuclear and missile and satellite technology is purely their intellectual property supplemented by espionage. They would have advanced their programs far faster if they truly had Chinese help.

Rossikki:
How many people benefited from the so called white quality education? Were your grandparents educated? Mine weren't, and I'm sure I speak for 95% of folks here. How many engineering or technical schools did they establish? Zero? Fact is only a very tiny handful of people - just enough to keep the colonial administration running - were educated. And that was to secondary level since they built no universities. You call THAT better than the current situation? You are clearly suffering from deepest colonial mentality.

so you believe in producing graduates with nowhere to work abi. no wonder Nigeria is the way it' is with ppl like you in charge. with your fake half education

Warship:



With massive unemployment and infrastructural decay

whose fault
is it not half baked individuals like you that put us in this mess

Rossikki:
Those are things that can be turned around, and in many cases are. Today we have places like Abakiliki and Awka with flyovers, shopping malls etc. Uyo, Asaba etc all getting built up with good infrastructure. What were those places like under colonial rule? They were lucky to have even cleared footpaths.

so white elephant project is your own yard stick. SMH for Nigeria education system since oyinbo left

Rossikki:
Can you name me one power plant they built in this giant great black nation? The school you attended...Who built it?

who built kainji or the coal plants before that. abeg stop embarrassing yourself

Rossikki:
The British invested in developing Singapore. They did the opposite in Nigeria. Additionally, the 4 or 5 Asian tiger nations were given by the west, unprecedented technology transfer, capital and western market access after WW2, which turned them into economic powerhouses. The west did this after WW2 to create capitalist strongholds in the Pacific as a way of checkmating Soviet communism in the region. The Soviets had just defeated the nazis and were looking to expand their global reach to Asia and beyond. That was when the west decided to create the so called Asian tiger economies we know today.

Singapore welcomed them o. nobody will invest with this your caveman Mugabe attitude

holocron:


OP has valid points.

no he doesn't

The British were better rulers - True, and there rule was mainly to their own advantage and impoverished the masses.

before nko
are you developing your neighbours chudren?

There was regular electricity, public water works, good road network; but only in narrow enclaves centered around centers of colonial commerce and government. Millions were deprived of this goodies without any plan to provide them.

why provide what you can't sustain
at least they wouldn't miss it

Not to be forgotten, colonial administration was military dictatorship. It was a military government. That was why it was not so strange for the military to re-take power in 1966, just 6 years from independence.

Whatever be the case, there's no point harping on the past. Colonialism is over and its never coming back.

chai you go fear naivete

The whites of these days are not even as tough and disciplined as their forefathers and cannot run an empire,

hahahahahaha learner

what with their decadency and demographic crisis. They are mainly living from the excellent foundations and industrial society built by their forefathers. The chinese and other Asians are taking over. The African is free and a master of his destiny. Lets tàke our future in our own hands.

you too funny
whites still rule via bank loans Bros
Asians are trying to learn the game trying to do it with sentiment
the African is not ready
this thread is proof

Rossikki:
Can you name me one power plant they built in this giant great black nation? The school you attended...Who built it?

but 63years to gather the territory larger as Nigeria together, the kingdom, empire and grouping igbo that scatter all over the jungle and socialized them to be social animal like others, you think is a small job, building rail road, educate those who will be handed the new nation over to is amassing?
think wisely.
ok!

mikolo80:

no he doesn't


before nko
are you developing your neighbours chudren?


why provide what you can't sustain
at least they wouldn't miss it


chai you go fear naivete



hahahahahaha learner
you too funny
whites still rule via bank loans Bros
Asians are trying to learn the game trying to do it with sentiment
the African is not ready
this thread is proof

that op mumu die,nah the British put abacha,buhari,gej and their likes as president of Nigeria

May sense fall on them

Obi1kenobi:


Artificial creation? Jesus Christ! You honestly make these Western countries look like gods and superhumans. What is funny is you don't see how you diminish your own people when you ascribe such omnipotent, omniscient power to them. And no, I was referring to nothing racial. I meant exactly the plain text I typed in using the term "cultural". That many Mongolians may prefer to inhabit the mountains as nomads and live primitively is different from a Korean republic or China driven by enterprise and open market global competitiveness. Japan was an industrialized regional superpower that had kicked the ass of China for centuries long before the post-war reconstruction aided by Western capital. That these countries are receptive to Western economic ideology and innovation and work ethic doesn't mean they were some kind of charity cases made rich by the West. Global economics is not a zero-sum game. The prosperity of Asian economic powers drive Western economies and they stand to profit from the success of as many successful nations as possible. That a country like Nigeria has remained backwards with little foreign investment has everything to do with unfavourable risk assessments that see many potential foreign investors fleeing. What, you think there is some kind of high-level conspiracy to keep Nigeria down when they would rather tap into the potential of a country with 200 million people? Square that bizarre logic with all the companies doing business in China.

And no, North Korea is no satellite state of |China. It's a common myth, but China wield little power over them. The little power they wield over them just happens to be more than the rest of the world can wield over an isolated regime. The crippling economic sanctions over North Korea are only successful because of China's help. And you're nuts if you think China would support a volatile, rogue regime mastering the use of nuclear weapons in its sphere of influence. Even Russia disarmed all its ex-Soviet member states of the nuclear weapons they had on the dissolution of the Soviet Union. Member states that Russians share a common heritage with and often have huge numbers of ethic Russians. North Korea's nuclear and missile and satellite technology is purely their intellectual property supplemented by espionage. They would have advanced their programs far faster if they truly had Chinese help.

God bless you for these words below


"..............The prosperity of Asian economic powers drive Western economies and they stand to profit from the success of as many successful nations as possible................"



One thing people like Rossikki don't understand is that the present generation of Caucasian people have realized that as long as other nations progress, they will also progress

For example


If more Africans become rich, nations like Germany will sell more cars, Japan more electronics, etc


African poverty is beginning to irritate the rest of the world especially the Caucasian people.


Unknown to people like Rossikki, this is one of the reasons why some of the Caucasian people are supporting Nnamdi Kanu


This is why they support the Reestablishment of Biafra

Rossikki you are crushing it!

Teach dem !


But has anybody considered that the white never stopped exploiting ruling us and are still exploiting ruling is till this very day?

Does a day go by where you don't see white faces with our govt officials under one guise or another during tv news?

Rossikki:
Good points. But I don't agree they were "better rulers" at all. How can you be a better ruler because you provide everything perfectly for 0.1% of the population, leaving 99.9% in penury and deprivation? You are a better ruler if you provide inefficiently for even 20% of the population.

It depends on how u look at it. That is, the intention of the govt. Colonial govt aimed at only 0.1% for their own selfish purposes and met there mark. Our govt aimed at 100% and u know the score. Its just a matter of who achieved its goals.

mikolo80:

no he doesn't


before nko
are you developing your neighbours chudren?


why provide what you can't sustain
at least they wouldn't miss it


chai you go fear naivete



hahahahahaha learner
you too funny
whites still rule via bank loans Bros
Asians are trying to learn the game trying to do it with sentiment
the African is not ready
this thread is proof

Sorry, but your comments are childish. If you must mention then respond with well reasoned points, ok?

Warship:



God bless you for these words below


"..............The prosperity of Asian economic powers drive Western economies and they stand to profit from the success of as many successful nations as possible................"



One thing people like Rossikki don't understand is that the present generation of Caucasian people have realized that as long as other nations progress, they will also progress

For example


If more Africans become rich, nations like Germany will sell more cars, Japan more electronics, etc


African poverty is beginning to irritate the rest of the world especially the Caucasian people.


Unknown to people like Rossikki, this is one of the reasons why some of the Caucasian people are supporting Nnamdi Kanu


This is why they support the Reestablishment of Biafra

Says who? Who has offered their support?

For the record, while we may broadly agree on the points stated and I'm an Igbo man and I'd like to see a restructuring of our debased unitary government, I'm no Biafran agitator. Igbo land won't suddenly turn to paradise just because we become a separate entity.

The OP is just ranting, because simple research would have shown him that the Nigger Area was never intended to be a "Great Nation" like England or France or Canada. Oyibo put not just us, but many folks together to stagnate their development and exploit them. That plan is still very much in effect today, with total mind control on Blacks world wide.

Do you wonder why Nigerian/Nigger Area music videos have better quality than Nigerian Movies? Because Oyibo know they can get into your mind by the music of Davido and many talentless baboons who are encouraging promiscuity, Hennessy, and lack of patriotism.

Do you know why the EPL is so treasured by those in the Nigger Area, or Lace weaves/wigs?

Do you know why many of our girls are giving birth at record expenses abroad? Or even why the President goes abroad for common ear infection?

We don't know who we are, and continue to accept the fake "Nigerian" concept while the world laughs at us and shakes their head at the little dumb black Niggers who cant get it right.

-Rossikki, I used to think you get sense. Perhaps, you're a different person to the one I thought; an old-time member here.

-I didn't really want to reply this post cos I think one poster here, "Obi..." and few others have done a good job already. But one thing I really want to add is, ask yourself where our grandparents where when Brits came and where they left us. Nigerians have spent more time fighting each other than make progress. My recommendation is dividing the country along it Fault Lines (Lol Name of the book I'm currently reading ).
-In this book, it talks about a plan, Project Helios, which is to carpet 200sq km of Greek land with solar panels costing €20 billion (€3.5 billion paid by Germans). The electricity generated will be transmitted through a new €10 billion line to Germany! 2 gigawatts of green solar energy by 2020 & 10 gigawatts by 2050.
-Imagine if they replicate that across Europe: Greece turning into the Saudi of solar! I hope you know the implication of this on Nigeria.
Note: Nigeria has more sunshine than Greece.

-In essence, there is no free lunch anywhere and the future is bleak for oil dependent Nigeria. The earlier the country is split into manageable workable units the better.

-Finally, I would recommend this books to you or anyone: "Basic Economics" by Thomas Sowell & "Intellectuals and Race" by same Author.

Obi1kenobi:


Artificial creation? Jesus Christ! You honestly make these Western countries look like gods and superhumans. What is funny is you don't see how you diminish your own people when you ascribe such omnipotent, omniscient power to them.

What are you talking about dude? Wealthy states wield geo-political power. Billions are allocated to think tanks and strategy institutes that devise all sorts of long term geo-political objectives. The funding of a select group of Asian nations, and granting them unrestricted access to western markets and capital is not even an especially inventive or creative policy. It was really something borne out of desperation to prevent the Soviets and communist China from overrunning Asia with their ideology. And yes, North Korea is a communist China satellite state that would collapse tomorrow if Beijing pulled the plug.

That many Mongolians may prefer to inhabit the mountains as nomads and live primitively is different from a Korean republic or China driven by enterprise and open market global competitiveness.

You conveniently omitted Cambodia, Nepal, Bhutan, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, and other Asian 'hellholes' like Burma, whose backwardness is only matched by the brutality of its military dictatorship. How do you explain THEIR backwardness that is many cases worse than conditions in many African countries? Yet they sit side by side with Singapore and South Korea!!

HOW DOES THAT HAPPEN?

Look at their histories. South Korea is backed by US forces who have nearly 50,000 troops stationed there. Why? Because they regard the Asian Tigers, which they created, as THEIR ASSETS. Singapore? Similar stuff. Western backed, militarily and otherwise. The British have been all over the place since time immemorial, setting it up as some sort of commercial trading outpost for east-west commerce - another western-backed asset. Hong Kong, another Tiger, same thing, western-backed, western asset in everything but name.

Burma, Nepal, Bhutan and co, who are of the same race as Singaporeans and South Koreans, are backward and ignored because they were of no strategic geo-political value to the west after WW2. All the west needed was just 4 or 5 countries to act as a capitalist bulwark against rampaging communism. They didn't need to do all of Asia.

Warship:



Go and study more about Singapore success.


They were also colonized by the British

If you were in Singapore, you won't be posting the thing you post on nairaland.

You suggested a study on Singapore, I therefore urge that you do that yourself.

Here is a bit of what you will discover.

'The Government (of Singapore) is generally perceived to be competent in managing the country's economy and largely free from political corruption. On the other hand, it has been criticized for using unfair election tactics, violating freedom of speech and its excessive use of the death penalty (by hanging) for non-violent crimes.'

Do you think the average Nigeria will survive here?

GenBuhari:
Rossikk you are crushing it!

Teach dem !


But has anybody considered that the white never stopped exploiting ruling us and are still exploiting ruling is till this very day?

Does a day go by way you don't see white faces with our govt officials under one guise or another during tv news?

Yes, they're the ones soliciting your politicians to cart away billions of dollars and live in opulence in their white countries. You're not ashamed at how many corruption cases (Halliburton, Malabu oil deal, laundering cases of the likes of Ibori, Alamieseigha, Diezani etc) that they've prosecuted (or are currently prosecuting) people for in their countries while the same criminals escape justice in Nigeria and people like Ibori are greeted like the Pope in their home states after they were treated like common criminals abroad. You no dey shame at all, at all. I pity people like you consumed by hatred and resentment of a vastly more successful civilization instead of focusing on the roots of the rot in your own society.

And no, they're not exploiting you. Africa in general is a basketcase for Western countries. They send you subsidized medicine for disease-ravaged populations with Polio, HIV etc. They send food aid when your people are starving and your hopeless countrymen find ways to divert the aid: like the IDP camps in the North East that divert foreign NGO's aid. Or the scumbags that diverted Saudi Arabia's food aid that found its way into the markets. They help you exploit your resources since after decades of independence, your country still lacks the technical capacity to even explore and exploit its oil and can't even refine its own product. Millions of economic refugees are risking their lives to cross the Mediterranean into Europe and become liabilities and eyesores on their streets. I blame the Italians, Greeks, Spanish people etc who go to rescue and provide shelter, clothes, food and medicine to arrivals before sending them on to plague the rest of Europe. Maybe if they provided food and sent every boat they catch all the way back, people may learn their lesson. We can't even help matters when we also breed like rats with exploding populations. Several economic projections predict this continent will be a huge scourge on the planet over the next century and we're sitting on a keg of gunpowder ready to explode. Instead of looking inward at ways to tackle the crisis, continue pointing your jealous fingers at people who can competently run their countries and blaming them for your failures.

mikolo80:
so you believe in producing graduates with nowhere to work abi. no wonder Nigeria is the way it' is with ppl like you in charge. with your fake half education

If you are a graduate and have nowhere to work, CREATE your own work. That is why you went to university. To develop analytical thinking.

Would you rather be an illiterate?

Look my friend, if you can read and write, and type on nairaland, you can create a job for yourself in today's world.

Warship:



God bless you for these words below


"..............The prosperity of Asian economic powers drive Western economies and they stand to profit from the success of as many successful nations as possible................"



One thing people like Rossikki don't understand is that the present generation of Caucasian people have realized that as long as other nations progress, they will also progress

For example


If more Africans become rich, nations like Germany will sell more cars, Japan more electronics, etc


African poverty is beginning to irritate the rest of the world especially the Caucasian people.


Unknown to people like Rossikki, this is one of the reasons why some of the Caucasian people are supporting Nnamdi Kanu


This is why they support the Reestablishment of Biafra

Talk about being delusional. Go and read ''How Europe Underdeveloped Africa'' by Walter Rodney. You will understand why you are deluded.

Rossikki:


If you are a graduate and have nowhere to work, CREATE your own work. That is why you went to university. To develop analytical thinking.

Would you rather be an illiterate?

Look my friend, if you can read and write, and type on nairaland, you can create a job for yourself in today's world.

look Mr man
graduates are not trained to think
they are trained to work for others. get your facts right

holocron:

Sorry, but your comments are childish. If you must mention then respond with well reasoned points, ok?

you that you're non childish. who you epp.
how many development you Don develop.
wake up and smell the coffee.
no be by queens English which incidentally I probably. speak better than you.

walemoney007:
that op mumu die,nah the British put abacha,buhari,gej and their likes as president of Nigeria

May sense fall on them

Rossiki is a well known troll. don't mind him. he just wan wine ppl

Obi1kenobi:


Artificial creation? Jesus Christ! You honestly make these Western countries look like gods and superhumans. What is funny is you don't see how you diminish your own people when you ascribe such omnipotent, omniscient power to them. And no, I was referring to nothing racial. I meant exactly the plain text I typed in using the term "cultural". That many Mongolians may prefer to inhabit the mountains as nomads and live primitively is different from a Korean republic or China driven by enterprise and open market global competitiveness. Japan was an industrialized regional superpower that had kicked the ass of China for centuries long before the post-war reconstruction aided by Western capital. That these countries are receptive to Western economic ideology and innovation and work ethic doesn't mean they were some kind of charity cases made rich by the West. Global economics is not a zero-sum game. The prosperity of Asian economic powers drive Western economies and they stand to profit from the success of as many successful nations as possible. That a country like Nigeria has remained backwards with little foreign investment has everything to do with unfavourable risk assessments that see many potential foreign investors fleeing. What, you think there is some kind of high-level conspiracy to keep Nigeria down when they would rather tap into the potential of a country with 200 million people? Square that bizarre logic with all the companies doing business in China.

And no, North Korea is no satellite state of |China. It's a common myth, but China wield little power over them. The little power they wield over them just happens to be more than the rest of the world can wield over an isolated regime. The crippling economic sanctions over North Korea are only successful because of China's help. And you're nuts if you think China would support a volatile, rogue regime mastering the use of nuclear weapons in its sphere of influence. Even Russia disarmed all its ex-Soviet member states of the nuclear weapons they had on the dissolution of the Soviet Union. Member states that Russians share a common heritage with and often have huge numbers of ethic Russians. North Korea's nuclear and missile and satellite technology is purely their intellectual property supplemented by espionage. They would have advanced their programs far faster if they truly had Chinese help.

You brain is hot!!! And i love that

Rossikki:


Talk about being delusional. Go and read ''How Europe Underdeveloped Africa'' by Walter Rodney. You will understand why you are deluded.

What year was that book written and what year are we now.?



The Caucasian people of those days aren't the same in mindset with this present generation of Caucasian people



Stop blaming the whites

Obi1kenobi:


Says who? Who has offered their support?

For the record, while we may broadly agree on the points stated and I'm an Igbo man and I'd like to see a restructuring of our debased unitary government, I'm no Biafran agitator. Igbo land won't suddenly turn to paradise just because we become a separate entity.

Says evidence I have come across


So many Caucasian people are opting for Biafra since Nigeria became a failed state


Do you know that Italian government wants sub Saharan Africa to develop their economy in order to prevent mass migration due to poverty

So I know from evidence I have come across that the Caucasian people want the reestablishment of Biafra.



You are free to doubt me and I understand because you haven't come across information I have come across.




AS FOR BIAFRA BECOMING A PARADISE


Yes she will become a developed country in 10years with the help of Israeli government and technology.


So many infrastructures the Nigerian state failed to erect, will be constructed within few years

mikolo80:
who built kainji or the coal plants before that. abeg stop embarrassing yourself

Construction of Kainji Dam began in 1964, on the orders of Prime Minister Sir Abubakar Tafawa Balewa, and was completed in 1968

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kainji_Dam


What ''coal plants'' are you referring to?

Have a name?

Rossikki:
Considering their record of 5% literacy rate after 63 years in power, chances are that had they still been in power today, YOU would be an illiterate village peasant with hoe and matchet in hand, and not that smartphone you learnt how to type on courtesy of the education that black Nigerian governments gave you. The same education the whites denied your grandparents, which is why they were stark illiterates stuck in the village.

they are still in South Africa. In fact they control the economy their and South Africa is way way way better than us.