Fulaman198:
Why aren't white people concerned about women's rights in the Western world? Women in Africa actually have more rights than women in the West.

onila:


in dubai, you can't get a girl pregnant before marriage or you will be arrested and be sent to jail

white women don't have to deal with that, the west is much better the arab world

whether you like it or not

onila:

white women lead the porn industry
the fashion industry
hollywood

domestic violence is a big offense in their community

they get to live in a better country than third world garbage

MsRoe:
Wow, something refreshingly different...........finally.

In the Middle East, if anyone dares to disrupt the structure put in place by Islam, they do so at the pain of death. They desperately need advocates from around the world. In Africa, we are an eclectic bunch. We largely operate under supposed progressiveness when it comes to women' lib. Our women are free to speak and fight for what they want. Our laws aren't so unfriendly to women; what we need to battle are the unwritten social and individual biases. And the only people stopping us are we ourselves.

Fulaman198:
Why aren't white people concerned about women's rights in the Western world? Women in Africa actually have more rights than women in the West.

IamKashyBaby:


@ bolded Plz elaborate this further since uv said it..

Show us the rights of african women that western women dont have...

Fulaman198:


The number of Female presidents in the United States vs. the number of female presidents in Liberia
The fact that women in the United States are paid less for the SAME EXACT work than their male counterparts.

IamKashyBaby:


@bolded, so does it mean that in Africa they pay women equally with men?

lefulefu:
as a lady u can have ur own a savings account in nigeria
in saudi arabia as a lady u have no right to have a savings account.if u have money u put it in ur husband or brother"s account
in nigeria u can own and drive a car if u a lady
in saudi arabia, women are not allowed to drive
so who has it worse?

Fulaman198:


Yah the land of Saudi Arabia may be beautiful, but the people who run the country have no idea what they are doing.

escapefromusa:


If the people are tired. They should "liberate" themselves on their own, without external influences or manipulations.

The western world has always been guilty of catalyzing change in places, long before the inhabitants of such places where ready for a change.

^{You can read Just and Unjust wars by Micheal Waltzer on theories of liberating people who are not ready for liberation.}

Summary: When people are ready for change it will be swift and relatively painless.

Fulaman198:


It probably is, but it is not better than many countries in Africa in treatment of women. You saw how Do***.T**ump referred to women. Also, the fact that there still has not been a single female president in the U.S. but there have been several in numerous African countries.

In the West, women are seen as objects, at least in Dubai, they respect women to the point that they should not be getting pregnant before marriage (call me old fashioned but not old from an age perspective). I think it's important that women are in a financially stable relationship before even considering having a baby, so in a way what the UAE is doing is a good thing.

onila:


America is not the only white country
UK and Germany have female prime ministers

are you saying black men don't say grab them by the pu**y too close doors with their guys

abortion is illegal in uae, women don't have rights to abort even when raped

white women have rights

MsRoe:
Wow, something refreshingly different...........finally.

In the Middle East, if anyone dares to disrupt the structure put in place by Islam, they do so at the pain of death. You can't compare the subjugation of women there and here. They desperately need advocates from around the world. In Africa, we are an eclectic bunch. We largely operate under supposed progressiveness when it comes to women' lib. Our women are free to speak and fight for what they want. Our laws aren't so unfriendly to women; what we need to battle are the unwritten social and individual biases. And the only people stopping us are we ourselves.

onila:


living in Africa is still hell fire

we should have equal attention like them

many Africans are sending their kids to dubai, and all those strict Arab countries to school despite their harsh laws

looks like living in Africa is much worse than in Dubai

MsRoe:



Let's first distinguish between the economic conditions of a place and the progressiveness of a place regarding women's liberation. I do not think people leave Africa for the Middle East (Dubai included) for the sole purpose of escaping female subjugation. They would go to Europe or The Americas for that. They do, however, leave Africa to escape the harsh economic climate, because (yeah) Africa is 'still hellish'. It's not comparable.

That said, when it comes to women's liberation, I am not saying that we aren't oppressed; even the West hasn't gotten to the promised land with the feminist agenda. I am saying that we can do something about without without fearing that we'll be stoned in the streets for raising our voices. We have women in the work place, we are not confined to our homes by law or religion. It is our responsibility to use our voices to better effect.

What we battle isn't our laws; we use templates from liberal countries (of course the northern states are exempt) What we fight, largely, is the prejudiced whispering from societies lot, which we are too fragile to withstand. A woman is afraid to want things that attract the 'feminist' label; she doesn't want to antagonize the men. We are going back and forth with it, harboring our internalized phobia. It's not laws that restrict us, it's our need for male approval. And who would have sympathy for that?

African women have to be unapologetic in their commitment for women's causes. They cannot be shriveling up whenever a man threatens that she would be single for the rest of her life if she doesn't drop her advocacy for feminism. We have to have thicker skins that that.

Fulaman198:
Why aren't white people concerned about women's rights in the Western world? Women in Africa actually have more rights than women in the West.

MsRoe:





African women have to be unapologetic in their commitment for women's causes. They cannot be shriveling up whenever a man threatens that she would be single for the rest of her life if she doesn't drop her advocacy for feminism. We have to have thicker skins that that.

sunshineG:
My sis everything the western world does is sratetegic
The western world supports women right in middle east as a way of battling extremism and terrorism in the middle east
Muslim foundamentalist are the target here because they are a major branch of terrorism in the middle east
The west believes the fundamentalist are against women rights
So supporting women right will give the west a strong friend that will help in battling the ideology of fundamentalist and fighting terrorism

Daeylar:


stamp of approval especially on the last 2 paragraphs

MsRoe:




How've you been, dearie?

Daeylar:

lol,
I've been good,
you ran away, welcome back
How are you?