Guys, this new kotlin development has been giving some of us serious concerns.

Yes, before you ask me, I can write kotlin at a beginners level. No, I will not use it yet for an android app (or any project).

I know it is a great development and all that, and it really rocks.

Okay, here is why - I code in many languages on demand, let us look at a scenario:

My life span in XCODE / IOS development is 3 years, and I will explain:
- 2014: I bought a MAC and started learning objective-c which was the main thing for writing IOS then, it was even the default language for XCODE.

- 2015: I had a project to do, and saw that the default was now swift, so I learn swift (cant remember version), and was happy. After that, no IOS till now

2017: I was ready for another IOS project, lo and behold the swift I knew was outdated, it is now swift 3, so I upgraded myself a bit painfully (because all the EBA I have chopped have made my head heavy), and finally kick-started the project,


BUT NO WAY, the team I was working with only knew OBJECTIVE-C which I have left since 2014, So I had to relearn it again for the project (and now I have not touched swift since o).

Now I cannot even beat my chest and say I can write swift again, I have been reduced back to a swift NOOB, I cannot even write hello world without looking at book in swift again (Or even CODE and outlet right-of-my-head).

Now, dont forget - I am a cross-platform developer, my next project might be C# or PHP, you never can tell.


With all this drama now, Android now introduced KOTLIN again? On top of all the wahala wey man dey face?

Some people are stills scared of OOP PHP, some are afraid of PHP 7.

All these wahala too dey tire person, I think I will soon drop title as professional and downgrade myself back to NOOB.

So what are the views of you guys on all these matters with special emphasis on Kotlin / JAVA?

Well, sometimes I think its for the betterment of their services (eg. IOS apps, Android Apps etc) and other times, I feel its political.

Anyway, sometimes I feel lazy to gulp another language...but I get excited if it becomes compulsory...any android developer, right now should begin to gulp KOTLIN at all cost.

The good is that, I increase my vocabulary!!!

dhtml18, have you thought of dropping a KOTLIN for android tutorial here? e go make sense na.

KOTLIN for android tutorial eh? I think a migration from java/android to kotlin/android will be better. I will keep this in mind, right now a lot of coding is going down here, enough to drown a fish!

dhtml18:
KOTLIN for android tutorial eh? I think a migration from java/android to kotlin/android will be better. I will keep this in mind, right now a lot of coding is going down here, enough to drown a fish!

Lol.

But for the migration tutorial, I havnt seen any on nairaland...it would make sense.

You are not alone bro, same here... But we just have to keep trying to meet up and always catch up with the latest thread.

dhtml18:
Guys, this new kotlin development has been giving some of us serious concerns.

Yes, before you ask me, I can write kotlin at a beginners level. No, I will not use it yet for an android app (or any project).

I know it is a great development and all that, and it really rocks.

Okay, here is why - I code in many languages on demand, let us look at a scenario:

My life span in XCODE / IOS development is 3 years, and I will explain:
- 2014: I bought a MAC and started learning objective-c which was the main thing for writing IOS then, it was even the default language for XCODE.

- 2015: I had a project to do, and saw that the default was now swift, so I learn swift (cant remember version), and was happy. After that, no IOS till now

2017: I was ready for another IOS project, lo and behold the swift I knew was outdated, it is now swift 3, so I upgraded myself a bit painfully (because all the EBA I have chopped have made my head heavy), and finally kick-started the project,


BUT NO WAY, the team I was working with only knew OBJECTIVE-C which I have left since 2014, So I had to relearn it again for the project (and now I have not touched swift since o).

Now I cannot even beat my chest and say I can write swift again, I have been reduced back to a swift NOOB, I cannot even write hello world without looking at book in swift again (Or even CODE and outlet right-of-my-head).

Now, dont forget - I am a cross-platform developer, my next project might be C# or PHP, you never can tell.


With all this drama now, Android now introduced KOTLIN again? On top of all the wahala wey man dey face?

Some people are stills scared of OOP PHP, some are afraid of PHP 7.

All these wahala too dey tire person, I think I will soon drop title as professional and downgrade myself back to NOOB.

So what are the views of you guys on all these matters with special emphasis on Kotlin / JAVA?

The thing no easy at all, it is battle to the end!

already adding tornadofx to my java portfolio, the android part will come in naturally.
i think its important for people trying to migrate to take some fun time with kotlin, play around a bit develop some small cmd apps then the android transition comes in naturally. its a new language remember? and damn its a really good java relief.
technically though, its still java under the hood, except for a few optimizations. e.g lambdas in kotlin generated byte code are compiled not preprocessed as before; also in kotlin, instead of the java way of active object evaluation, which usally causes the famous nullpointer exceptions, kotlin does lazy evaluation with the help of its nice syntax; this not only eliminates chances of a 3500 threads server breaking due to object evaluation in threads issues, it also makes kotlin bytecode way faster!

even beyond android, kotlin is amazing...

Olyboy16:
already adding tornadofx to my java portfolio, the android part will come in naturally.
i think its important for people trying to migrate to take some fun time with kotlin, play around a bit develop some small cmd apps then the android transition comes in naturally. its a new language remember? and damn its a really good java relief.
technically though, its still java under the hood, except for a few optimizations. e.g lambdas in kotlin generated byte code are compiled not preprocessed as before; also in kotlin, instead of the java way of active object evaluation, which usally causes the famous nullpointer exceptions, kotlin does lazy evaluation with the help of its nice syntax; this not only eliminates chances of a 3500 threads server breaking due to object evaluation in threads issues, it also makes kotlin bytecode way faster!

even beyond android, kotlin is amazing...

Please me ooooh
I know basic of Java and i just started learning Android App.
Now people are talking about Kotlin for Android.
Should i stop the Android tutorial and go learn Kotlin?

badthinds:
Well, sometimes I think its for the betterment of their services (eg. IOS apps, Android Apps etc) and other times, I feel its political.

Anyway, sometimes I feel lazy to gulp another language...but I get excited if it becomes compulsory...any android developer, right now should begin to gulp KOTLIN at all cost.

The good is that, I increase my vocabulary!!!

dhtml18, have you thought of dropping a KOTLIN for android tutorial here? e go make sense na.

Which one is Kotlin again ?
I just finished Java and just started learning Android development
Kotlin again ?

Guys, I tire for the android folks o, na kotlin now o!!

seunny4lif:

Please me ooooh
I know basic of Java and i just started learning Android App.
Now people are talking about Kotlin for Android.
Should i stop the Android tutorial and go learn Kotlin?

Yes! but only if your primary reason for learning java is to make android apps.
else, you should learn both if you need java for other uses.
Another reason to learn kotlin is that its JS transpilation will make it ideal for a cross platform language; so its only a matter of time for it to compete with xamarin considering the massive support its getting; and the power of the jetbrains platform.

Olyboy16:

Yes! but only if your primary reason for learning java is to make android apps.
else, you should learn both if you need java for other uses.
Another reason to learn kotlin is that its JS transpilation will make it ideal for a cross platform language; so its only a matter of time for it to compete with xamarin considering the massive support its getting; and the power of the jetbrains platform.

I started the tutorial on Kotlin just 3 hours ago
And it's more cool than Java but it look like python a little bit and also Java on the other side.
It's a mixed of Java and Python
I like to work as an Android and Java developer but I want Android first

It's official now

dhtml18:
Guys, I tire for the android folks o, na kotlin now o!!

seunny4lif:

Please me ooooh
I know basic of Java and i just started learning Android App.
Now people are talking about Kotlin for Android.
Should i stop the Android tutorial and go learn Kotlin?

If this is your first programming language, continue learning java. You can use your java skill for web application programming and other stuffs, then learn Kotlin later, programming language skills are easily transfarrable.

talk2hb1:

If this is your first programming language, continue learning java. You can use your java skill for web application programming and other stuffs, then learn Kotlin later, programming language skills are easily transfarrable.

Thanks
I know basic of Java at least till multithread I think.
I find the Kotlin much easier
I will like to go for Mobile Application
I have be Watching the tutorial video of Kotlin and i find it cool

seunny4lif:

I started the tutorial on Kotlin just 3 hours ago
And it's more cool than Java but it look like python a little bit and also Java on the other side.
It's a mixed of Java and Python
I like to work as an Android and Java developer but I want Android first

cool, thats some real geek spirit you've got. you'll get used to the syntax bro; safe journey!

Olyboy16:

cool, thats some real geek spirit you've got. you'll get used to the syntax bro; safe journey!

Thanks
I'm enjoying it

Everyone that has tried KOTLIN will come to that conclusion within a short time that it is cooler and easier than JAVA.

Going for Kotlin ASAP ... I've been with python for a while nd JS .. But have got serious interest in Android apps dev. So I guess this will be a very good one sir @ dhtml baba .. tutorials/ recommended tutorials link from your highness sir

dhtml18:
Everyone that has tried KOTLIN will come to that conclusion within a short time that it is cooler and easier than JAVA.

I dey one of them
Kotlin needs no {}
hello world in Java is 7 lines
Kotlin is just 3 lines

and since i can import from Java then no problem

kayoph:
Going for Kotlin ASAP ... I've been with python for a while nd JS .. But have got serious interest in Android apps dev. So I guess this will be a very good one sir @ dhtml baba .. tutorials/ recommended tutorials link from your highness sir

Just type Kotlin of Youtube but i find this guy tutorial good
No null pointer


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Org0vh-VSgA&list=PLsyeobzWxl7rooJFZhc3qPLwVROovGCfh

Guys, pls I am a complete newbie, what will you advise I start with for android development pls??

yes of course, you can kickstart android dev immediately.

SHOPPERS:
Guys, pls I am a complete newbie, what will you advise I start with for android development pls??

Start with Java for Android development
Kotlin is good but not some many tutorial on YouTube

Yes, even me sef, na JAVa i still dey use.