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Re: What Measures Are The Northern Elite Taking To Tackle The High Level Of Illitera by Nobody: 8:59pm On Jul 30, 2017
EmeeNaka:
Lack of education is not the problem of North. They need to cultivate more rice and pay less attention to the teachings of Imams.
Education is not the key in North.
You are wrong. Lack of education is the problem of the north. What's the essence of using crude method to cultivate rice while through education you can learn a better way of cultivating Rice.

Do you know that in the western region when Cocoa was the mainstay, a lot of families engaged in Cocoa farming but they made sure to send their children to school which made the children to adapt to a changing world and moved onto bigger things when the farming of Cocoa was no longer lucrative
Re: What Measures Are The Northern Elite Taking To Tackle The High Level Of Illitera by Sagay212: 9:01pm On Jul 30, 2017
The northern elites use the illiterates as their tools to start trouble and fight for them. They also use them as slaves...that's why you'll see a son of man trekking with castles from kaduna to enugu to sound and even morroco. These elites will never allow their own children do this. If they educate the illiterates who will they use to disrupt a govt they don't like and who will herd their cows?
Re: What Measures Are The Northern Elite Taking To Tackle The High Level Of Illitera by EmeeNaka: 9:04pm On Jul 30, 2017
Crocky23:


I hold same views and Saudi Arabia continues to invest in our religion in Nigeria, about time we cut diplomatic relations with that terrorist promoting state..
Nigeria can't cut diplomatic relations with Saudi Arabia. In fact,it's unthinkable at the moment.
And Saudi Arabia is showing remorse for the barbarism they introduced with sponsorship of Wahabism and Jihad across the world. Recently, they have started contributing in the fight against terrorism, even to the extent of trying to blame another country on terrorist charges,Qatar.
The North of Nigeria must be kept busy with Agricultural and modern farming tools. That's the best step now.
Re: What Measures Are The Northern Elite Taking To Tackle The High Level Of Illitera by dokiOloye(m): 9:06pm On Jul 30, 2017
The northern elites will rather build more mosques where their collaborator imams will indoctrinate the masses 5 times daily and madrassas where d children of d poor will be forced to cram d quran in Arabic rather than in English which is more useful to a Nigerian.
They will send their own children to study in d UK and Egypt but will hardly build conventional schools for their masses cos it is better for them to keep d masses in ignorance so they can always mobilise them during riots and during elections to vote for dundees like Osama BinHary.
Re: What Measures Are The Northern Elite Taking To Tackle The High Level Of Illitera by Nobody: 9:06pm On Jul 30, 2017
Blue3k:


Haven't put too much thought into educational policy in Nigeria. The best thing I can see these states doing is figuring out how to tax revenue to fund education. Local government and state government cooperate on this initiative.

Dont worry about Dangote. He is good either way. He's diversified north south and internationally. Boko haram is partly the economy which good policy would solve.

Ps: your being trolled either don't respond or give him some nice jokes back.
What the North needs is private initiative because the government has failed them and sees denying them education is political tool to keep them loyal.


The South was oppourtned to have missionary schools which promoted western education and also private individuals like Tai Solatin took it upon themselves to banish illiteracy from the populace. The north lacks such things.




Dangote might have his major investment outside the North but how will he feel those almajiri are let off from their leash just like BH and he has nowhere to return to again
Re: What Measures Are The Northern Elite Taking To Tackle The High Level Of Illitera by Nobody: 9:08pm On Jul 30, 2017
dokiOloye:
The northern elites will rather build more mosques where their collaborator imams will indoctrinate the masses 5 times daily and madrassas where d children of d poor will be forced to cram d quran in Arabic rather than in English which is more useful to a Nigerian.
They will send their own children to study in d UK and Egypt but will hardly build conventional schools for their masses cos it is better for them to keep d masses in ignorance so they can always mobilise them during riots and during elections to vote for dundees like Osama BinHary.
The south will continue to bear the brunt of those policies because the funds for development will be used to quell deadly uprising caused by another form of BH.
Re: What Measures Are The Northern Elite Taking To Tackle The High Level Of Illitera by freshest4live: 9:10pm On Jul 30, 2017
QueenOfNepal:
What the North needs is private initiative because the government has failed them and sees denying them education is political tool to keep them loyal.


The South was oppourtned to have missionary schools which promoted western education and also private individuals like Tai Solatin took it upon themselves to banish illiteracy from the populace. The north lacks such things.




Dangote might have his major investment outside the North but how will he feel those almajiri are let off from their leash just like BH and he has nowhere to return to again
I don't think it affects Dangote either way, he is based in Lagos and Abuja. But he has some investments in the North that provides jobs to thousands and has contributed to some major projects that remotely have to do with education.
Re: What Measures Are The Northern Elite Taking To Tackle The High Level Of Illitera by Nobody: 9:11pm On Jul 30, 2017
EmeeNaka:
Nigeria can't cut diplomatic relations with Saudi Arabia. In fact,it's unthinkable at the moment.
And Saudi Arabia is showing remorse for the barbarism they introduced with sponsorship of Wahabism and Jihad across the world. Recently, they have started contributing in the fight against terrorism, even to the extent of trying to blame another country on terrorist charges,Qatar.
The North of Nigeria must be kept busy with Agricultural and modern farming tools. That's the best step now.
Saudi Arabia is not showing remorse rather Qatar is competiting with them as a regional Sunni power which theyddon't like. Qatar has a powerful media which is shaping opinion in the middle east and it will act as a counter weight to Saudi authoritarian regime.


Saudi is fighting in Yemen because Iran is backing Houthi rebels

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Re: What Measures Are The Northern Elite Taking To Tackle The High Level Of Illitera by EmeeNaka: 9:13pm On Jul 30, 2017
QueenOfNepal:
You are wrong. Lack of education is the problem of the north. What's the essence of using crude method to cultivate rice while through education you can learn a better way of cultivating Rice.

Do you know that in the western region when Cocoa was the mainstay, a lot of families engaged in Cocoa farming but they made sure to send their children to school which made the children to adapt to a changing world and moved onto bigger things when the farming of Cocoa was no longer lucrative
Education is good but for you to think that Education is what about 40million uneducated Northerners need to to be to be useful is wrong. It's not even education they need before they will be introduced to modern farming methods. If the illiterate Northerners are well engaged in food production with genuine assistance from govt, Nigeria will not be importing foods and they will gain a lot of money and be happy thereafter.
Masha Allah
Re: What Measures Are The Northern Elite Taking To Tackle The High Level Of Illitera by Nobody: 9:15pm On Jul 30, 2017
freshest4live:

I don't think it affects Dangote either way, he is based in Lagos and Abuja. But he has some investments in the North that provides jobs to thousands and has contributed to some major projects that remotely have to do with education.
The ten million uprising from the North will make Abuja unsafe. Can you point out any educated leader from any of those Islamist group in the north starting from Maitasane to BH.


Dangote needs to face education in the North or else his investments are not safe in years to come
Re: What Measures Are The Northern Elite Taking To Tackle The High Level Of Illitera by freshest4live: 9:16pm On Jul 30, 2017
EmeeNaka:
Education is good but for you to think that Education is what about 40million uneducated Northerners need to to be to be useful is wrong. It's not even education they need before they will be introduced to modern farming methods. If the illiterate Northerners are well engaged in food production with genuine assistance from govt, Nigeria will not be importing foods and they will gain a lot of money and be happy thereafter.
Masha Allah
We don't even need some of them to be educated in the western way, we just need them to learn modern techniques of farming, and our economy would be the better for it.
Re: What Measures Are The Northern Elite Taking To Tackle The High Level Of Illitera by EmeeNaka: 9:17pm On Jul 30, 2017
QueenOfNepal:
Saudi Arabia is not showing remorse rather Qatar is competiting with them as a regional Sunni power which theyddon't like. Qatar has a powerful media which is shaping opinion in the middle east and it will act as a counter weight to Saudi authoritarian regime.


Saudi is fighting in Yemen because Iran is backing Houthi rebels
Saudi Arabia has, of late, contributed immensely in the fight against terrorism.
Al Jazeera is a thorn in the flesh of many leaderships across the globe,they don't shape any opinion. Even Netanyahu of Israel recently vowed to ban the Media.
Re: What Measures Are The Northern Elite Taking To Tackle The High Level Of Illitera by EmeeNaka: 9:18pm On Jul 30, 2017
freshest4live:

We don't even need them to be educated in the western way, we just need them to learn modern techniques of farming, and our economy would be the better for it. The more educated they are the more they want to leave the farm.
Exactly.
Re: What Measures Are The Northern Elite Taking To Tackle The High Level Of Illitera by freshest4live: 9:19pm On Jul 30, 2017
QueenOfNepal:
The ten million uprising from the North will make Abuja unsafe. Can you point out any educated leader from any of those Islamist group in the north starting from Maitasane to BH.


Dangote needs to face education in the North or else his investments are not safe in years to come
Illiteracy is not the major cause of violence, it's an idle mind or frustrated mind.
Re: What Measures Are The Northern Elite Taking To Tackle The High Level Of Illitera by Nobody: 9:20pm On Jul 30, 2017
EmeeNaka:
Education is good but for you to think that Education is what about 40million uneducated Northerners need to to be to be useful is wrong. It's not even education they need before they will be introduced to modern farming methods. If the illiterate Northerners are well engaged in food production with genuine assistance from govt, Nigeria will not be importing foods and they will gain a lot of money and be happy thereafter.
Masha Allah
I spent a lot of years in the North and i can tell you without mincing words that farming is their mainstay and the only thing that makes them act Neanderthal is lack of education.


What is the essence of having money when you can easily be swayed by an Imam who you believes has a great knowledge in the quran? Education gives you options for critical thinking and makes you ask pertinent questions and even allows you to disagree with another school of thought
Re: What Measures Are The Northern Elite Taking To Tackle The High Level Of Illitera by Blue3k(m): 9:22pm On Jul 30, 2017
freshest4live:

We don't even need them to be educated in the western way, we just need them to learn modern techniques of farming, and our economy would be the better for it. The more educated they are the more they want to leave the farm.

You know you don't need millions of farmers to feed population right? If you have modern mechanized farming like you suggested you can dramatically cut work force. Check other industrialized nations you'll notice only 5% of nation is engaged in farming.

Your odd desire to keep people uneducated is regressive. If they get education the can create other opportunities in their domain. There's other sectors besides agricultural and food processing that can and should be pursued.

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Re: What Measures Are The Northern Elite Taking To Tackle The High Level Of Illitera by Nobody: 9:23pm On Jul 30, 2017
EmeeNaka:
Saudi Arabia has, of late, contributed immensely in the fight against terrorism.
Al Jazeera is a thorn in the flesh of many leaderships across the globe,they don't shape any opinion. Even Netanyahu of Israel recently vowed to ban the Media.
Saudi Arabia is the number one sponsor of terrorism. Aljazeera has been a thorn in the flesh of those middle Eastern oligarchs who opposition opinions don't sit well with.


Why is Saudi Arabia in Yemen?
Re: What Measures Are The Northern Elite Taking To Tackle The High Level Of Illitera by Nobody: 9:24pm On Jul 30, 2017
freshest4live:

Illiteracy is not the major cause of violence, it's an idle mind or frustrated mind.
Illiteracy breeds idle mind and makes you not to be innovative so illiteracy breeds violence
Re: What Measures Are The Northern Elite Taking To Tackle The High Level Of Illitera by EmeeNaka: 9:25pm On Jul 30, 2017
QueenOfNepal:
I spent a lot of years in the North and i can tell you without mincing words that farming is their mainstay and the only thing that makes them act Neanderthal is lack of education.


What is the essence of having money when you can easily be swayed by an Imam who you believes has a great knowledge in the quran? Education gives you options for critical thinking and makes you ask pertinent questions and even allows you to disagree with another school of thought
The truth is, the people that propagates a lot of those problems causing teachings in Islam are actually educated. Now, how are you sure Education will stop such teaching instead of creating more of it?
The antidote to violence is the Law, that's where govt comes in. There are violence wherever the govt fail to bring justice.
Re: What Measures Are The Northern Elite Taking To Tackle The High Level Of Illitera by omohayek: 9:26pm On Jul 30, 2017
Blue3k:


You know you don't need millions of farmers to feed population right? If you have modern mechanized farming like you suggested you can dramatically cut work force. Check other industrialized nations you'll notice only 5% of nation is engaged in farming.

Your odd desire to keep people uneducated is regressive. If they get education the can create other opportunities in their domain. There's other sectors besides agricultural and food processing that can and should be pursued.
The great irony here is that the guy you're responding to would already know what you're telling him if ... he was better educated!

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Re: What Measures Are The Northern Elite Taking To Tackle The High Level Of Illitera by Nobody: 9:27pm On Jul 30, 2017
freshest4live:

[b]We don't even need them to be educated in the western way, we just need them to learn modern techniques of farming, [/b]and our economy would be the better for it. The more educated they are the more they want to leave the farm.
How can you deny them western education out of selfish interest? Can you for a moment swap position with that illiterate farmer in Zamfara who is under a political sharia and his opinions is shaped by what the government feeds him
Re: What Measures Are The Northern Elite Taking To Tackle The High Level Of Illitera by EmeeNaka: 9:27pm On Jul 30, 2017
QueenOfNepal:
Saudi Arabia is the number one sponsor of terrorism. Aljazeera has been a thorn in the flesh of those middle Eastern oligarchs who opposition opinions don't sit well with.


Why is Saudi Arabia in Yemen?
That's international politics thing. Iran versus Saudi turf, it has nothing essentially to do with Terrorism.
Re: What Measures Are The Northern Elite Taking To Tackle The High Level Of Illitera by freshest4live: 9:31pm On Jul 30, 2017
Blue3k:


You know you don't need millions of farmers to feed population right? If you have modern mechanized farming like you suggested you can dramatically cut work force. Check other industrialized nations you'll notice only 5% of nation is engaged in farming.

Your odd desire to keep people uneducated is regressive. If they get education the can create other opportunities in their domain. There's other sectors besides agricultural and food processing that can and should be pursued.
OK l agree, but maybe l didn't put it well.
My point is that after secondary school, they focus on technical skills in agriculture and wherever the interest lies, l don't see university as the optimal form of education, it makes them seek for employment and White Collar jobs after graduation. I do not wish that they remain ignorant just for selfish gains but that they do not become useless after graduation like we find in most parts of the south, when they should have spent the time on their passions, those who desire the University can go on with it.
Re: What Measures Are The Northern Elite Taking To Tackle The High Level Of Illitera by Nobody: 9:32pm On Jul 30, 2017
EmeeNaka:
The truth is, the people that propagates a lot of those problems causing teachings in Islam are actually educated. Now, how are you sure Education will stop such teaching instead of creating more of it?
The antidote to violence is the Law, that's where govt comes in. There are violence wherever the govt fail to bring justice.
Do you know why death is frowned upon in western world? It's not because of religion rather it's because education which brings enlightenment and relegate religion to the background.

Most of the religious fights going on today in Islamic world is caused by illiteracy and nothing else.


Law and government is easier with an educated and enlightened populace

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Re: What Measures Are The Northern Elite Taking To Tackle The High Level Of Illitera by dokiOloye(m): 9:32pm On Jul 30, 2017
freshest4live:

We don't even need them to be educated in the western way, we just need them to learn modern techniques of farming, and our economy would be the better for it. The more educated they are the more they want to leave the farm.
Not exactly d truth.
The more educated they are,d more they realise d futility of the subsistence farming they mostly engage in and embrace modern methods of farming which guarantee less input with better yield.
For example,how do U explain artificial insemination,drip irrigation, pollination etc to a stark illiterate?
At a time,if d turenchi becomes too much,he will politely excuse himself to go and do d type his forefathers did.
Most of d big commercial farms along Abuja-Keffi road are owned by highly educated ppl including some doctors I know and d difference in efficiency,productivity etc is clear.

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Re: What Measures Are The Northern Elite Taking To Tackle The High Level Of Illitera by freshest4live: 9:33pm On Jul 30, 2017
omohayek:

The great irony here is that the guy you're responding to would already know what you're telling him if ... he was better educated!
I know what he's talking about, but unfortunately l didn't put my previous statement across properly. Definitely we don't need millions for agriculture but as Nigerians we wrongly believe the only way is the monotonous form of education.
You can always make your point without the condescension or unnecessary air of superiority.
Re: What Measures Are The Northern Elite Taking To Tackle The High Level Of Illitera by Nobody: 9:34pm On Jul 30, 2017
EmeeNaka:
That's international politics thing. Iran versus Saudi turf, it has nothing essentially to do with Terrorism.
How has Saudi Arabia stopped the spread of militant Wahabbism when its citizens are the highest donors to Alqaeda and ISIS.


Saudi Arabia is evil and the fall of that kingdom will be the best to happen to mankind
Re: What Measures Are The Northern Elite Taking To Tackle The High Level Of Illitera by freshest4live: 9:38pm On Jul 30, 2017
QueenOfNepal:
How can you deny them western education out of selfish interest? Can you for a moment swap position with that illiterate farmer in Zamfara who is under a political sharia and his opinions is shaped by what the government feeds him
My point is that we allow them see education differently from the norm so they don't breed lazy youths, who can still be voilent due to unemployment and over reliance on Government later on.
Re: What Measures Are The Northern Elite Taking To Tackle The High Level Of Illitera by Nobody: 9:39pm On Jul 30, 2017
Crocky23:


Could be the Islamic religion but definitely not poverty or education. There are enough illiterates all over Africa, they don't go out killing other humans with pleasure.
The killings going on in CAR and DR Congo is because the government failed to invest in education. Islam is not always the cause rather illiteracy but when danfodio style of militant
Islam is added then we will see a more deadly vviolence
Re: What Measures Are The Northern Elite Taking To Tackle The High Level Of Illitera by Nobody: 9:40pm On Jul 30, 2017
Crocky23:


Could be the Islamic religion but definitely not poverty or education. There are enough illiterates all over Africa, they don't go out killing other humans with pleasure.
The killings going on in CAR and DR Congo is because the government failed to invest in education. Islam is not always the cause rather illiteracy but when danfodio style of militant
Islam is added then we will see a more deadly violence.
Re: What Measures Are The Northern Elite Taking To Tackle The High Level Of Illitera by Nobody: 9:42pm On Jul 30, 2017
freshest4live:

My point is that we allow them see education differently from the norm so they don't breed lazy youths, who can still be voilent due to unemployment and over reliance on Government later on.
You are turning me like barber chair
Education is the answer and nothing else

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Re: What Measures Are The Northern Elite Taking To Tackle The High Level Of Illitera by EmeeNaka: 9:42pm On Jul 30, 2017
QueenOfNepal:
Do you know why death is frowned upon in western world? It's not because of religion rather it's because education which brings enlightenment and relegate religion to the background.

Most of the religious fights going on today in Islamic world is caused by illiteracy and nothing else.


Law and government is easier with an educated and enlightened populace
Libyans were much educated before they got burnt by civil war, Syria has a high literacy level before getting into war, Turkey is highly literate society but they're becoming more of a sharia state recently. The cause of many problems around us is the leadership we have and interest of foreign govt in our country. An average Northerner is a peaceful person just like average Southerner. There are violent people within every society but Government efforts, rule of law, justice will reduce violence.

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