shedgoz:
Though I am a ardent follower of Tonye's posts on nairaland. I was utterly disappointed with the mannerism of prejudice he portrayed in the Ikwerre vs Okirika land tussle.

shedgoz:
Though I am a ardent follower of Tonye's posts on nairaland. I was utterly disappointed with the mannerism of prejudice he portrayed in the Ikwerre vs Okirika land tussle.

iamhorny:
All i know is the first and second map of igboland in 1895 and 1903 had portharcourt and the whole of Anioma as igboland..Any idiot can say anything, it doesnt change anything. we know our boundaries and no part of igboland will be left for an inconsequential daydreaming urchin, not even wike or okowa

TonyeBarcanista:
Oga can you cite the Court judgement that said Ijaws own "No Land" in Warri?


Ayam.waiting...

I know that my thread hit some guys but hey, Tonye wasn't the Justices that delivered the verdict

OAUTemitayo:

WARRI WARRI HIGH COURT DATED 9/71964 BARRED THE IJAW INDIGENES FROM WARRI, FROM CONTESTING OWNERSHIP OF LANDS IN WARRI LOCAL GOVERNMENT AREAS OF DELTA STATE, AS THE SUPREME COURT HAD SINCE SC/450/65. LAID SUCH MATTER TO REST.

This was the ruling delivered by the Hon. Justice Marshall Mukoro, last week while dismissing the application for joinder by the Ijaws of Ogbe-Ijoh in a land case involving the Okere Itsekiri community and the Delta State Government, claiming to be the rightful owner of the land in dispute.

Kokolet11:
i am waiting for him in anioma

TonyeBarcanista:

I know that you are not smart. You just pick Vanguard headline and bloom...

Let me educate you a little...

The land under dispute between Itsekiri and Ijaw is a land within Ogbe-Ijoh (where the Maritime University lies). How does that translate to the whole of Warri? How does that translate to Ijae have no land in Warri? Even Itsekiri won't dare make such claim? Or you don't know the difference between Warri Kingdom (Itsekiri kingdom) and Warri city?

You see why it is good for people to be well-read?

NCP:




This TonyeBarcanista, is

Our Founder/Executive Chairman, National Association of Trolls,


National Coordinator For Nairaland Resident Trolls

and the


Founder African Society of Trolls.


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Oga TonyeBarcanista, You are highly welcome to another round of trolling NL politics section.

OAUTemitayo:
Your smartness is why you are a sore loser in every party you moved into.
Your own definition of Warri is definitely different from mine.
So you can keep twisting facts and we will see how far you people can go with it.

TonyeBarcanista:

I know that you are not smart. You just pick Vanguard headline and bloom...

Let me educate you a little...

The land under dispute between Itsekiri and Ijaw is a land within Ogbe-Ijoh (where the Maritime University lies). How does that translate to the whole of Warri? How does that translate to Ijae have no land in Warri? Even Itsekiri won't dare make such claim? Or you don't know the difference between Warri Kingdom (Itsekiri kingdom) and Warri city?

You see why it is good for people to be well-read?

TonyeBarcanista:
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Oga where is your judgement that says Ijaws have no land in Warri? There is no need to rant!


Next time you will avoid displaying your intellectual deficiency by not taking a position without having your fact.

I take my leave... Have a lovely week ahead

pazienza:
OP, I hope you are not Igbo. Please if you are, I'd suggest and plead you let Ikwerre and Ijaws sort themselves out in peace.
I'm sure Ikwerres don't mind giving out PH LGA to Ijaws in the spirit of Niger Delta and "Rivers men" brotherhood, they still have OBALGA .
When a man fights with his wife, and you try to intrude, they would both use you as a common ground to negotiate their peace.

We(Ndiigbo) stand to profit more, if we stay off this Ikwerre-Ijaw matter .

Can we just stay off it, bikonu.

OAUTemitayo:

I am Yoruba.
Just want to know why Ijaws won't respect court decisions when it doesn't suit them.

pazienza:


Ok. Good to know. You are welcome.

As to your question, I too won't give up my lands based on court decision, especially when I genuinely believe the land belongs to me. Indians and Pakis are still clashing over Kashmir, the South China sea islands is still being contested by China, Indonesia and the rest.

No real nation gives up their ancestral lands just because of a court judgement that they feel was skewed against them.

So, I understand Ijaw stance on Warri issue. I'm only amused that Ijaws think Ikwerre ethnic nationality would give up their ancestral lands over court judgements.
I'm sure even Tonye knows that's impossible.

Ijaws had also refused to give up Gelegele to Bini, despite court judgements favouring Binis.

As a neutral observer, I'm just a bit curious about this PH issue.
The fight over this between Ijaw groups and Ikwerre ones on facebook groups had been quite intriguing and exciting.

pazienza:


Ok. Good to know. You are welcome.

As to your question, I too won't give up my lands based on court decision, especially when I genuinely believe the land belongs to me. Indians and Pakis are still clashing over Kashmir, the South China sea islands is still being contested by China, Indonesia and the rest.

No real nation gives up their ancestral lands just because of a court judgement that they feel was skewed against them.

So, I understand Ijaw stance on Warri issue. I'm only amused that Ijaws think Ikwerre ethnic nationality would give up their ancestral lands over court judgements.
I'm sure even Tonye knows that's impossible.

Ijaws had also refused to give up Gelegele to Bini, despite court judgements favouring Binis.

As a neutral observer, I'm just a bit curious about this PH issue.
The fight over this between Ijaw groups and Ikwerre ones on facebook groups had been quite intriguing and exciting.

pazienza:
OP, I hope you are not Igbo. Please if you are, I'd suggest and plead you let Ikwerre and Ijaws sort themselves out in peace.
I'm sure Ikwerres don't mind giving out PH LGA to Ijaws in the spirit of Niger Delta and "Rivers men" brotherhood, they still have OBALGA .
When a man fights with his wife, and you try to intrude, they would both use you as a common ground to negotiate their peace.

We(Ndiigbo) stand to profit more, if we stay off this Ikwerre-Ijaw matter .

Can we just stay off it, bikonu.

freshvine:


What you don't understand is that the Kalabaris, okirika, ogonis and other ijaw groups sees Ikwerre as IBO people but the ikwerres are denying that fact.

Now the puzzle is what does the ikwerres want to achieve denying?

pazienza:


Ok. Good to know. You are welcome.

As to your question, I too won't give up my lands based on court decision, especially when I genuinely believe the land belongs to me. Indians and Pakis are still clashing over Kashmir, the South China sea islands is still being contested by China, Indonesia and the rest.

No real nation gives up their ancestral lands just because of a court judgement that they feel was skewed against them.

So, I understand Ijaw stance on Warri issue. I'm only amused that Ijaws think Ikwerre ethnic nationality would give up their ancestral lands over court judgements.
I'm sure even Tonye knows that's impossible.

As a neutral observer, I'm just a bit curious about this PH issue.
The fight over this between Ijaw groups and Ikwerre ones on facebook groups had been quite intriguing and exciting.

pazienza:


It doesn't matter what any group see Ikwerre as, what matters is what they see themselves as.

Ikwerre see themselves as Ikwerre, descendants of a Bini man that lost his Bini language for the Igboid one they currently speak.

This is the only thing that matters. There is no puzzle to solve.

Newmanluckyman:
...please I vehemently disagree with you on the third paragraph. He that comes to equity comes with clean hands. Before parties approached a court for a judgement it's naturally advised that both will abide by the outcome of that judgement. Hence when one looses, he's mandated to abide by the ruling.

Your second paragraph postulations may not be entirely true especially the case on the South China Sea. Only the Philippines approached the court for justice while China wasn't part of it. Even when it was rule in Philippines favour notwithstanding Chinese non participation,it's only natural that China won't abide by it.

On the Ikwerre -Ijaw Saga was there any bilateral agggrement between both parties to abide by the various court ruling? Did the jointly approached the court for justice? These are questions begging for an answer.Either can decide to shun the outcome if those questions can't be ascertain.

Let's take a cursory look on the judgement between Nigeria and Cameroun. Both approached the court for justice and agreed to abide by same.The judgement was ruled in favour of Cameroun and Nigeria has no legal option than to abide by it. She can equally say that she won't abide by it which will invariably stoke border tension that can lead to war. So that's the last option.

freshvine:


LOL. Did they travel from Benin to their present occupation through the River?

They passed Ijaw land and settled with the east, west, north bordered by the igbos and separated only with the Ijaws through river delineation .. A natural way of distinguishing separate Tribe.

pazienza:


Ok. Good to know. You are welcome.

As to your question, I too won't give up my lands based on court decision, especially when I genuinely believe the land belongs to me. Indians and Pakis are still clashing over Kashmir, the South China sea islands is still being contested by China, Indonesia and the rest.

No real nation gives up their ancestral lands just because of a court judgement that they feel was skewed against them.

So, I understand Ijaw stance on Warri issue. I'm only amused that Ijaws think Ikwerre ethnic nationality would give up their ancestral lands over court judgements.
I'm sure even Tonye knows that's impossible.

Ijaws had also refused to give up Gelegele to Bini, despite court judgements favouring Binis.

As a neutral observer, I'm just a bit curious about this PH issue.
The fight over this between Ijaw groups and Ikwerre ones on facebook groups had been fierce and quite intriguing and exciting.