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Re: Uchenna Obuna Killed In The Ozubulu Catholic Church Massacre (Photos) by Kagarko(m): 10:40am On Aug 08, 2017
Martinez19:
If she was an atheist that day and decided not to go to church, she would not have died. God couldn't prot*ct..... lipsrsealed

Anyway rip to the dead

Inna Lillahi Wa Inna Ilaihi Raajioon. Auzu Billahi Minash Shaidaanir Rajeem.


This statement can cause calamity to befall humanity.

As'Alullahul Azeem Rabbul Arshil Azeem An Yahdeekum. (I Asked Allah to Guide You to Right Path ie Islam)
Re: Uchenna Obuna Killed In The Ozubulu Catholic Church Massacre (Photos) by hopefulLandlord: 10:41am On Aug 08, 2017
Lovine:
All of you who insulted God here, I wish you all the best, yet you can't do without HIM

I do without imaginary Yahweh

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Re: Uchenna Obuna Killed In The Ozubulu Catholic Church Massacre (Photos) by win2kwire: 10:48am On Aug 08, 2017
Well if you are stupid enough to believe in religion, enjoy the benefits of it.
Re: Uchenna Obuna Killed In The Ozubulu Catholic Church Massacre (Photos) by Dmec(m): 10:52am On Aug 08, 2017
hopefulLandlord:
RIP to the dead

Another proof Christianity is a lie and Yahweh is either imaginary or incompetent because he promised his followers divine protection but failed them at their hour of need

Let's read the Holy Bible for some of those verses, the below list isn't by any means exhaustive

1. Psalm 1:6 For the LORD watches over the way of the righteous, but the way of the wicked leads to destruction.

2. Psalm 121:5-8 The LORD watches over you— the LORD is your shade at your right hand; the sun will not harm you by day, nor the moon by night. The LORD will keep you from all harm– he will watch over your life ; the LORD will watch over your coming and going both now and forevermore.

3. Psalm 91:10-11 no harm will overtake you, no disaster will come near your tent. For he will command his angels concerning you to guard you in all your ways.

4. Isaiah 54:17“No weapon that is formed against you will prosper ; And every tongue that accuses you in judgment you will condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, And their vindication is from Me,” declares the LORD.

5. Proverbs 1:33 but whoever listens to me will live in safety and be at ease, without fear of harm.”

6. Psalm 34:7 For the angel of the LORD is a guard; he surrounds and defends all who fear him.

7. Psalm 112:6-7[/b]Surely the righteous will never be shaken; they will be remembered forever. They will have no fear of bad news; their hearts are steadfast, trusting in the LORD.

8. [b]Nahum 1:7
The LORD is good, a refuge in times of trouble. He cares for those who trust in him.

9. Psalm 56:4 In God I will praise his word, in God I have put my trust; I will not fear what flesh can do unto me.

10. Proverbs 29:25 Fear of man will prove to be a snare, but whoever trusts in the Lord is kept safe

11. Deuteronomy 31:8 Do not be afraid or discouraged, for the LORD will personally go ahead of you. He will be with you; he will neither fail you nor abandon you.”

12. Genesis 28:15 I am with you and will watch over you wherever you go , and I will bring you back to this land. I will not leave you until I have done what I have promised you.”

13. Proverbs 3:24-26 When you lie down, you will not be afraid; when you lie down, your sleep will be sweet. Have no fear of sudden disaster or of the ruin that overtakes the wicked, for the Lord will be at your side and will keep your foot from being snared.

14. Psalm 27:1 Of David . The LORD is my light and my salvation– whom shall I fear ? The LORD is the stronghold of my life– of whom shall I be afraid?

15. Psalm 91:1-4 Whoever dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty. I will say of the Lord, “He is my refuge and my fortress, my God, in whom I trust .” Surely he will save you from the fowler’s snare and from the deadly pestilence. He will cover you with his feathers, and under his wings you will find refuge; his faithfulness will be your shield and rampart.

16. Psalm 5:11 But let all who take refuge in you be glad; let them ever sing for joy. Spread your protection over them, that those who love your name may rejoice in you.

17. Proverbs 18:10 The name of the LORD is a strong fortress ; the godly run to him and are safe.

18. Psalm 144:2 He is my loving God and my fortress, my stronghold and my deliverer, my shield, in whom I take refuge , who subdues peoples under me.

19. Exodus 14:14 The LORD will fight for you, and you have only to be silent .

there are still many more similar verses in the Christian Bible

Typical christians consoling words: "Ooh don't worry dear, god works in mysterious ways you know. His ways are not our ways. He knows his reasons for everything."
Does god ever protect his followers? Is he even capable??
It's high time you guys wake up from slumber and face reality, not defending the stories made by some ancient men from a certain culture with every strength in your body.

Yahweh is either incompetent, liar or nonexistent and Christianity is a lie
Going to church everyday does not make you a born again. The Bible says: Seek the kingdom of GOD and every other thing shall be yours. When ever you accept Jesus Christ as your lord and savior, all the things you mentioned is what you will get. To GOD be the glory.
Re: Uchenna Obuna Killed In The Ozubulu Catholic Church Massacre (Photos) by Nobody: 10:53am On Aug 08, 2017
YoungDaNaval:
Buhari will never go unpunished!!!

Bro! dont do this, this is serious. We r in the mourning mood.
Re: Uchenna Obuna Killed In The Ozubulu Catholic Church Massacre (Photos) by kikake: 10:53am On Aug 08, 2017
dannytoe:
Lord have mercy, nigeria is fvck up, no value for human life anymore, the police keep feeding us with lies upon lies at the detriment of their mediocrity. infact nigeria no be country again.



Commissioner of Police Umar has played his role.

Law of Karma is there, because Nigeria is a lawless country.

Umar's immediate statement that it was feud by Igbo drug lords must have aided the escape of the terrorists.

Because once that pronouncement was made immediately after the shooting, other vigilantes and law enforcement agents would remove their attention from blocking the terrorists from escape.


All was a carefully written script - like in a James Bond 007 film.
Re: Uchenna Obuna Killed In The Ozubulu Catholic Church Massacre (Photos) by Dmec(m): 10:58am On Aug 08, 2017
hopefulLandlord:
This girl and other casualties must've prayed to Yahweh through Jesus to save him but still died despite Jesus reiterating many times that you'll have whatever you ask for in his name, let's look at those bible verses, shall we?

And Jesus answered and said to them, “Truly I say to you, if you have faith and do not doubt, you will not only do what was done to the fig tree, but even if you say to this mountain, `Be taken up and cast into the sea,’ it will happen. “And all things you ask in prayer, believing, you will receive.” (Matthew 21:21-22)

Again I say to you, that if two of you agree on earth about anything that they may ask, it shall be done for them by My Father who is in heaven. For where two or three have gathered together in My name, I am there in their midst. (Matthew 18:19-20)

Amen, I say to you, whoever says to this mountain, ‘Be lifted up and thrown into the sea,’ and does not doubt in his heart but believes that what he says will happen, it shall be done for him. Therefore I tell you, all that you ask for in prayer, believe that you will receive it and it shall be yours. (Mark 11:24-25)

And whatever you ask in my name, I will do, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son. If you ask anything of me in my name, I will do it. (John 14:13-14)

With all these passages claiming that if they have even the smallest amount of faith (Matthew 17:20 For truly, I say to you, if you have faith as a grain of mustard seed, you will say to this mountain, 'Move from here to there,' and it will move; and nothing will be impossible to you.)then whatever you ask for in prayer will be granted,

there are obviously only a few options available for Ikorodu Christians to chose after taking a honest look at their prayers against bado fail:

1) the Bible is wrong, Jesus never said these things

2) the Bible is right, Jesus said these things but Jesus was wrong

3) the Bible is right, Jesus said these things but Jesus lied

4) Those that died prayed for divine protection but had no faith

5) the Bible is just a collection of myths & fables & Yahweh, Jesus, Holy Spirit, Satan doesn't exist
My brother until you believe in him and seek for his forgiveness(Jesus Christ), you shall be saved.
Re: Uchenna Obuna Killed In The Ozubulu Catholic Church Massacre (Photos) by hopefulLandlord: 11:01am On Aug 08, 2017
Dmec:
Going to church everyday does not make you a born again. The Bible says: Seek the kingdom of GOD and every other thing shall be yours. When ever you accept Jesus Christ as your lord and savior, all the things you mentioned is what you will get. To GOD be the glory.

very convenient excuse, "those that died aren't born again", Optimism Bias at its best

Optimism bias (also known as unrealistic or
comparative optimism ) is a cognitive bias that causes a person to believe that they are at a lesser risk of experiencing a negative event compared to others.

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Re: Uchenna Obuna Killed In The Ozubulu Catholic Church Massacre (Photos) by Nobody: 11:02am On Aug 08, 2017
hopefulLandlord:
RIP to the dead

Another proof Christianity is a lie and Yahweh is either imaginary or incompetent because he promised his followers divine protection but failed them at their hour of need

Let's read the Holy Bible for some of those verses, the below list isn't by any means exhaustive

1. Psalm 1:6 For the LORD watches over the way of the righteous, but the way of the wicked leads to destruction.

2. Psalm 121:5-8 The LORD watches over you— the LORD is your shade at your right hand; the sun will not harm you by day, nor the moon by night. The LORD will keep you from all harm– he will watch over your life ; the LORD will watch over your coming and going both now and forevermore.

3. Psalm 91:10-11 no harm will overtake you, no disaster will come near your tent. For he will command his angels concerning you to guard you in all your ways.

4. Isaiah 54:17“No weapon that is formed against you will prosper ; And every tongue that accuses you in judgment you will condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, And their vindication is from Me,” declares the LORD.

5. Proverbs 1:33 but whoever listens to me will live in safety and be at ease, without fear of harm.”

6. Psalm 34:7 For the angel of the LORD is a guard; he surrounds and defends all who fear him.

7. Psalm 112:6-7[/b]Surely the righteous will never be shaken; they will be remembered forever. They will have no fear of bad news; their hearts are steadfast, trusting in the LORD.

8. [b]Nahum 1:7
The LORD is good, a refuge in times of trouble. He cares for those who trust in him.

9. Psalm 56:4 In God I will praise his word, in God I have put my trust; I will not fear what flesh can do unto me.

10. Proverbs 29:25 Fear of man will prove to be a snare, but whoever trusts in the Lord is kept safe

11. Deuteronomy 31:8 Do not be afraid or discouraged, for the LORD will personally go ahead of you. He will be with you; he will neither fail you nor abandon you.”

12. Genesis 28:15 I am with you and will watch over you wherever you go , and I will bring you back to this land. I will not leave you until I have done what I have promised you.”

13. Proverbs 3:24-26 When you lie down, you will not be afraid; when you lie down, your sleep will be sweet. Have no fear of sudden disaster or of the ruin that overtakes the wicked, for the Lord will be at your side and will keep your foot from being snared.

14. Psalm 27:1 Of David . The LORD is my light and my salvation– whom shall I fear ? The LORD is the stronghold of my life– of whom shall I be afraid?

15. Psalm 91:1-4 Whoever dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty. I will say of the Lord, “He is my refuge and my fortress, my God, in whom I trust .” Surely he will save you from the fowler’s snare and from the deadly pestilence. He will cover you with his feathers, and under his wings you will find refuge; his faithfulness will be your shield and rampart.

16. Psalm 5:11 But let all who take refuge in you be glad; let them ever sing for joy. Spread your protection over them, that those who love your name may rejoice in you.

17. Proverbs 18:10 The name of the LORD is a strong fortress ; the godly run to him and are safe.

18. Psalm 144:2 He is my loving God and my fortress, my stronghold and my deliverer, my shield, in whom I take refuge , who subdues peoples under me.

19. Exodus 14:14 The LORD will fight for you, and you have only to be silent .

there are still many more similar verses in the Christian Bible

Typical christians consoling words: "Ooh don't worry dear, god works in mysterious ways you know. His ways are not our ways. He knows his reasons for everything."
Does god ever protect his followers? Is he even capable??
It's high time you guys wake up from slumber and face reality, not defending the stories made by some ancient men from a certain culture with every strength in your body.

Yahweh is either incompetent, liar or nonexistent and Christianity is a lie


With all the bible chaptersthat you quote....Yes God can do it ,over and over again.
This ones that died if and only if they were true Christian then they didn't die in vain ....d bible called those martyr s
But if they ain't true born again ...they judgment await them.


Op, the Bible you quoted was wriiten long again Now we the new born again Christian... deals directly with holy spirit....in spirit with our inner being.

Lemme tell you ....you are looking at the world true yiy physical eyes and am telling you that this world is a market place

D devil your father is the ruler of this earth for the time being... so he can kill and destroy 'the body which is also physical' but he can't kill our soul which he so dear to have.

Ours soul is for the Lord Jesus ...and we shall partake of his glory.

Is only a foul that will say there's no God. A foul that doesn't understand his on life ...can't understand the way of God.

Op, hold your nose for 10mins without breathing and while u r doing that think of a another way u can breath apart from your nose and mouth.
There's God...is name is Yaweh
Re: Uchenna Obuna Killed In The Ozubulu Catholic Church Massacre (Photos) by nellychy12: 11:03am On Aug 08, 2017
RIP
Re: Uchenna Obuna Killed In The Ozubulu Catholic Church Massacre (Photos) by Adeyeancah(m): 11:04am On Aug 08, 2017
So those who are not good looking deserved to die abi undecided
Re: Uchenna Obuna Killed In The Ozubulu Catholic Church Massacre (Photos) by hopefulLandlord: 11:05am On Aug 08, 2017
Fame333:

Op, hold your nose for 10mins without breathing and while u r doing that think of a another way u can breath apart from your nose and mouth.
There's God...is name is Yaweh

what kind of empty nonsense is this?
Re: Uchenna Obuna Killed In The Ozubulu Catholic Church Massacre (Photos) by dayus12(f): 11:15am On Aug 08, 2017
hopefulLandlord:
RIP to the dead

Another proof Christianity is a lie and Yahweh is either imaginary or incompetent because he promised his followers divine protection but failed them at their hour of need

Let's read the Holy Bible for some of those verses, the below list isn't by any means exhaustive

1. Psalm 1:6 For the LORD watches over the way of the righteous, but the way of the wicked leads to destruction.

2. Psalm 121:5-8 The LORD watches over you— the LORD is your shade at your right hand; the sun will not harm you by day, nor the moon by night. The LORD will keep you from all harm– he will watch over your life ; the LORD will watch over your coming and going both now and forevermore.

3. Psalm 91:10-11 no harm will overtake you, no disaster will come near your tent. For he will command his angels concerning you to guard you in all your ways.

4. Isaiah 54:17“No weapon that is formed against you will prosper ; And every tongue that accuses you in judgment you will condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, And their vindication is from Me,” declares the LORD.

5. Proverbs 1:33 but whoever listens to me will live in safety and be at ease, without fear of harm.”

6. Psalm 34:7 For the angel of the LORD is a guard; he surrounds and defends all who fear him.

7. Psalm 112:6-7[/b]Surely the righteous will never be shaken; they will be remembered forever. They will have no fear of bad news; their hearts are steadfast, trusting in the LORD.

8. [b]Nahum 1:7
The LORD is good, a refuge in times of trouble. He cares for those who trust in him.

9. Psalm 56:4 In God I will praise his word, in God I have put my trust; I will not fear what flesh can do unto me.

10. Proverbs 29:25 Fear of man will prove to be a snare, but whoever trusts in the Lord is kept safe

11. Deuteronomy 31:8 Do not be afraid or discouraged, for the LORD will personally go ahead of you. He will be with you; he will neither fail you nor abandon you.”

12. Genesis 28:15 I am with you and will watch over you wherever you go , and I will bring you back to this land. I will not leave you until I have done what I have promised you.”

13. Proverbs 3:24-26 When you lie down, you will not be afraid; when you lie down, your sleep will be sweet. Have no fear of sudden disaster or of the ruin that overtakes the wicked, for the Lord will be at your side and will keep your foot from being snared.

14. Psalm 27:1 Of David . The LORD is my light and my salvation– whom shall I fear ? The LORD is the stronghold of my life– of whom shall I be afraid?

15. Psalm 91:1-4 Whoever dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty. I will say of the Lord, “He is my refuge and my fortress, my God, in whom I trust .” Surely he will save you from the fowler’s snare and from the deadly pestilence. He will cover you with his feathers, and under his wings you will find refuge; his faithfulness will be your shield and rampart.

16. Psalm 5:11 But let all who take refuge in you be glad; let them ever sing for joy. Spread your protection over them, that those who love your name may rejoice in you.

17. Proverbs 18:10 The name of the LORD is a strong fortress ; the godly run to him and are safe.

18. Psalm 144:2 He is my loving God and my fortress, my stronghold and my deliverer, my shield, in whom I take refuge , who subdues peoples under me.

19. Exodus 14:14 The LORD will fight for you, and you have only to be silent .

there are still many more similar verses in the Christian Bible

Typical christians consoling words: "Ooh don't worry dear, god works in mysterious ways you know. His ways are not our ways. He knows his reasons for everything."
Does god ever protect his followers? Is he even capable??
It's high time you guys wake up from slumber and face reality, not defending the stories made by some ancient men from a certain culture with every strength in your body.

Yahweh is either incompetent, liar or nonexistent and Christianity is a lie



You lack understanding....You are so carnal that you can't think deep. I pray God by himself will open your eyes/heart....Saul(before paul) did more than you...
Re: Uchenna Obuna Killed In The Ozubulu Catholic Church Massacre (Photos) by Nobody: 11:17am On Aug 08, 2017
hopefulLandlord:


what kind of empty nonsense is this?

Even when a fool see words of wisdom ...his foolishness will not allow him to understand.

He's like deaf dog that can't hear when d owner calls
Re: Uchenna Obuna Killed In The Ozubulu Catholic Church Massacre (Photos) by Martinez19(m): 11:17am On Aug 08, 2017
Kagarko:


Inna Lillahi Wa Inna Ilaihi Raajioon. Auzu Billahi Minash Shaidaanir Rajeem.


This statement can cause calamity to befall humanity.

As'Alullahul Azeem Rabbul Arshil Azeem An Yahdeekum. (I Asked Allah to Guide You to Right Path ie Islam)
grin grin grin grin grin
Re: Uchenna Obuna Killed In The Ozubulu Catholic Church Massacre (Photos) by hopefulLandlord: 11:26am On Aug 08, 2017
dayus12:




You lack understanding....You are so carnal that you can't think deep. I pray God by himself will open your eyes/heart....Saul(before paul) did more than you...

the only knowledge you have about your god comes from indoctrination, you would've been worshipping Vishnu if you were born in india

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Re: Uchenna Obuna Killed In The Ozubulu Catholic Church Massacre (Photos) by goodvision12(m): 11:31am On Aug 08, 2017
All humans are equal in the sight of death whether ugly or beautiful.Death is a respecter of no one.May all their souls rest in peace.
Re: Uchenna Obuna Killed In The Ozubulu Catholic Church Massacre (Photos) by dayus12(f): 11:47am On Aug 08, 2017
hopefulLandlord:


the only knowledge you have about your god comes from indoctrination, you would've been worshipping Vishnu if you were born in india

Ohhhh...I just checked your stuff now and see you are an Atheist....There's nothing more to talk about then...But have you ever ask yourself this questions; What if you die today,tomorrow or 100yrs from now and now discover God truly exist.How will you handle it?

You don't need to reply me....
Re: Uchenna Obuna Killed In The Ozubulu Catholic Church Massacre (Photos) by hopefulLandlord: 11:53am On Aug 08, 2017
dayus12:


Ohhhh...I just checked your stuff now and see you are an Atheist....There's nothing more to talk about then...But have you ever ask yourself this questions; What if you die today,tomorrow or 100yrs from now and now discover God truly exist.How will you handle it?

You don't need to reply me....

I will reply you though

what if you die and discover its Allah and Islam is the truth? or die and discover Christianity is a lie and Judaism is the truth?

do you know the Israelis whose story you hang on to don't believe your Jesus died for them? these are people whose ancestors lived during Jesus time and saw him firsthand

but dayus12 and other Nigerians read a book and quickly concluded the Jews are wrong, its akin to claiming to know buhari more than the people closer to him cuz you read punch newspapers

so don't be too scared of hell cuz either religion or god you chose can lead there

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Re: Uchenna Obuna Killed In The Ozubulu Catholic Church Massacre (Photos) by Olufemiolaolu(m): 11:55am On Aug 08, 2017
So saddening, those behind this must account 4 this. R.l.P
Re: Uchenna Obuna Killed In The Ozubulu Catholic Church Massacre (Photos) by handsyrex(m): 12:12pm On Aug 08, 2017
[quote author=hopefulLandlord post=59258456]This girl and other casualties must've prayed to Yahweh through Jesus to save him but still died despite Jesus reiterating many times that you'll have whatever you ask for in his name, let's look at those bible verses, shall we?

And Jesus answered and said to them, “Truly I say to you, if you have faith and do not doubt, you will not only do what was done to the fig tree, but even if you say to this mountain, `Be taken up and cast into the sea,’ it will happen. “And all things you ask in prayer, believing, you will receive.” (Matthew 21:21-22)

Again I say to you, that if two of you agree on earth about anything that they may ask, it shall be done for them by My Father who is in heaven. For where two or three have gathered together in My name, I am there in their midst. (Matthew 18:19-20)

Amen, I say to you, whoever says to this mountain, ‘Be lifted up and thrown into the sea,’ and does not doubt in his heart but believes that what he says will happen, it shall be done for him. Therefore I tell you, all that you ask for in prayer, believe that you will receive it and it shall be yours. (Mark 11:24-25)

And whatever you ask in my name, I will do, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son. If you ask anything of me in my name, I will do it. (John 14:13-14)

With all these passages claiming that if they have even the smallest amount of faith (Matthew 17:20 For truly, I say to you, if you have faith as a grain of mustard seed, you will say to this mountain, 'Move from here to there,' and it will move; and nothing will be impossible to you.)then whatever you ask for in prayer will be granted,

there are obviously only a few options available for Ikorodu Christians to chose after taking a honest look at their prayers against bado fail:

1) the Bible is wrong, Jesus never said these things

2) the Bible is right, Jesus said these things but Jesus was wrong

3) the Bible is right, Jesus said these things but Jesus lied

4) Those that died prayed for divine protection but had no faith

5) the Bible is just a collection of myths & fables & Yahweh, Jesus, Holy Spirit, Satan doesn't exist[/quote

Psalm 14:1.... I love this day.
Re: Uchenna Obuna Killed In The Ozubulu Catholic Church Massacre (Photos) by novicali: 12:35pm On Aug 08, 2017
Let me start by saying that many people and many preachers included have read the Bible without understanding and that is the reason behind the misinterpretation of the Bible. Firstly the sovereignty of God has been misconstrued and as a result misunderstood by many who have read and preaches the Bible. Let me say this candidly that God is not in charge of what goes on in this planet earth period and if you think so you are veiled with religiosity and religiosity is not Bible. The Bible never said that God is in charge of the activities of men, but He is in charge of His own activities. Now let’s see Genesis 1:26 “And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.” God after creating man, gave man the power to dominate whatever that is in this earth, God never said He will dominate! Note this point. This suggests that the activities that are carried out on this earth are under the auspices of man and not God. It may interest you that after the creation of the earth God has no input in the earth anymore, whatever that comes into existence both eternal (sin and death) and external (physical creations) are manmade.
However, God didn’t create a robot, He created man and gave him the right to make choice (Genesis 2:16-17), this establishes man’s will. So there is the will of man and there is the will of God and it might interest you know that God does not invade man’s will. The only thing God can do is to make suggestion but cannot usurp their will, that was what He did in the case of Adam, He suggested to him but he went ahead to do his own thing and God never stopped him. Which means is not God that made Adam eat the fruit, Adam was just exercising his will and God cannot stop him because He has given him the right to make choice. Also see Deuteronomy 30:19.
I have many things to say but just trying to make them be in a nutshell. Now let’s evaluate what happened at the church. The guys that went for that operation God must have suggested to them to opt out of the operation by speaking to their spirit. Yet they have their way because they have the power to make choice either to go or not to go for the operation. To the worshipers, and even the priest before this time, through vision, dreams, prophecy and instincts God must have spoken to them about this very operation that happened, and yet it is in their hand to choose what to do. Go to that town today and interview some folks they will tell you that, somehow, they had dreams, visions, even that very day when they woke up they felt this way or that way. The thing is that if your spirit is not in consonant with the voice and ways God communicates the tendency to overlooked things is there especially to the ones saying that there is no God.
But one is sure and that is we shall all give account of what we have used the will He gave us to do. The question is, are you using the will you have to work out His purpose or your purpose?

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Re: Uchenna Obuna Killed In The Ozubulu Catholic Church Massacre (Photos) by joprisco: 12:39pm On Aug 08, 2017
This is babaric
Re: Uchenna Obuna Killed In The Ozubulu Catholic Church Massacre (Photos) by jessikoholic: 12:45pm On Aug 08, 2017
[quote author=hopefulLandlord post=59258456]This girl and other casualties must've prayed to Yahweh through Jesus to save him but still died despite Jesus reiterating many times that you'll have whatever you ask for in his name, let's look at those bible verses, shall we?

And Jesus answered and said to them, “Truly I say to you, if you have faith and do not doubt, you will not only do what was done to the fig tree, but even if you say to this mountain, `Be taken up and cast into the sea,’ it will happen. “And all things you ask in prayer, believing, you will receive.” (Matthew 21:21-22)

Again I say to you, that if two of you agree on earth about anything that they may ask, it shall be done for them by My Father who is in heaven. For where two or three have gathered together in My name, I am there in their midst. (Matthew 18:19-20)

Amen, I say to you, whoever says to this mountain, ‘Be lifted up and thrown into the sea,’ and does not doubt in his heart but believes that what he says will happen, it shall be done for him. Therefore I tell you, all that you ask for in prayer, believe that you will receive it and it shall be yours. (Mark 11:24-25)

And whatever you ask in my name, I will do, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son. If you ask anything of me in my name, I will do it. (John 14:13-14)

With all these passages claiming that if they have even the smallest amount of faith (Matthew 17:20 For truly, I say to you, if you have faith as a grain of mustard seed, you will say to this mountain, 'Move from here to there,' and it will move; and nothing will be impossible to you.)then whatever you ask for in prayer will be granted,

there are obviously only a few options available for Ikorodu Christians to chose after taking a honest look at their prayers against bado fail:

1) the Bible is wrong, Jesus never said these things

2) the Bible is right, Jesus said these things but Jesus was wrong

3) the Bible is right, Jesus said these things but Jesus lied

4) Those that died prayed for divine protection but had no faith

5) the Bible is just a collection of myths & fables & Yahweh, Jesus, Holy Spirit, Satan doesn't exist









That they died doesn't mean he hasn't protected a thousand more...#sense fall on you
Re: Uchenna Obuna Killed In The Ozubulu Catholic Church Massacre (Photos) by Jerrypolo(m): 12:58pm On Aug 08, 2017
hopefulLandlord:
This girl and other casualties must've prayed to Yahweh through Jesus to save him but still died despite Jesus reiterating many times that you'll have whatever you ask for in his name, let's look at those bible verses, shall we?

And Jesus answered and said to them, “Truly I say to you, if you have faith and do not doubt, you will not only do what was done to the fig tree, but even if you say to this mountain, `Be taken up and cast into the sea,’ it will happen. “And all things you ask in prayer, believing, you will receive.” (Matthew 21:21-22)

Again I say to you, that if two of you agree on earth about anything that they may ask, it shall be done for them by My Father who is in heaven. For where two or three have gathered together in My name, I am there in their midst. (Matthew 18:19-20)

Amen, I say to you, whoever says to this mountain, ‘Be lifted up and thrown into the sea,’ and does not doubt in his heart but believes that what he says will happen, it shall be done for him. Therefore I tell you, all that you ask for in prayer, believe that you will receive it and it shall be yours. (Mark 11:24-25)

And whatever you ask in my name, I will do, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son. If you ask anything of me in my name, I will do it. (John 14:13-14)

With all these passages claiming that if they have even the smallest amount of faith (Matthew 17:20 For truly, I say to you, if you have faith as a grain of mustard seed, you will say to this mountain, 'Move from here to there,' and it will move; and nothing will be impossible to you.)then whatever you ask for in prayer will be granted,

there are obviously only a few options available for Ikorodu Christians to chose after taking a honest look at their prayers against bado fail:

1) the Bible is wrong, Jesus never said these things

2) the Bible is right, Jesus said these things but Jesus was wrong

3) the Bible is right, Jesus said these things but Jesus lied

4) Those that died prayed for divine protection but had no faith

5) the Bible is just a collection of myths & fables & Yahweh, Jesus, Holy Spirit, Satan doesn't exist

With all due respect to my Muslim brothers.

How do you feel about the Holy Quran ??
Re: Uchenna Obuna Killed In The Ozubulu Catholic Church Massacre (Photos) by WetinConsignMe: 1:12pm On Aug 08, 2017
Martinez19:
Death is inevitable. Enjoy life and don't bind it to an imaginary friend or god. grin

But can't u see that believing in these quotations will help someone overcome fear and anxiety. I already told u, people worship God because they instinctively know it's good for them. It doesn't benefit God.and it doesn't obligate God to do anything. God does whatever he wants to do
Re: Uchenna Obuna Killed In The Ozubulu Catholic Church Massacre (Photos) by WetinConsignMe: 1:14pm On Aug 08, 2017
hopefulLandlord:
RIP to the dead

Another proof Christianity is a lie and Yahweh is either imaginary or incompetent because he promised his followers divine protection but failed them at their hour of need

Let's read the Holy Bible for some of those verses, the below list isn't by any means exhaustive

1. Psalm 1:6 For the LORD watches over the way of the righteous, but the way of the wicked leads to destruction.

2. Psalm 121:5-8 The LORD watches over you— the LORD is your shade at your right hand; the sun will not harm you by day, nor the moon by night. The LORD will keep you from all harm– he will watch over your life ; the LORD will watch over your coming and going both now and forevermore.

3. Psalm 91:10-11 no harm will overtake you, no disaster will come near your tent. For he will command his angels concerning you to guard you in all your ways.

4. Isaiah 54:17“No weapon that is formed against you will prosper ; And every tongue that accuses you in judgment you will condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, And their vindication is from Me,” declares the LORD.

5. Proverbs 1:33 but whoever listens to me will live in safety and be at ease, without fear of harm.”

6. Psalm 34:7 For the angel of the LORD is a guard; he surrounds and defends all who fear him.

7. Psalm 112:6-7[/b]Surely the righteous will never be shaken; they will be remembered forever. They will have no fear of bad news; their hearts are steadfast, trusting in the LORD.

8. [b]Nahum 1:7
The LORD is good, a refuge in times of trouble. He cares for those who trust in him.

9. Psalm 56:4 In God I will praise his word, in God I have put my trust; I will not fear what flesh can do unto me.

10. Proverbs 29:25 Fear of man will prove to be a snare, but whoever trusts in the Lord is kept safe

11. Deuteronomy 31:8 Do not be afraid or discouraged, for the LORD will personally go ahead of you. He will be with you; he will neither fail you nor abandon you.”

12. Genesis 28:15 I am with you and will watch over you wherever you go , and I will bring you back to this land. I will not leave you until I have done what I have promised you.”

13. Proverbs 3:24-26 When you lie down, you will not be afraid; when you lie down, your sleep will be sweet. Have no fear of sudden disaster or of the ruin that overtakes the wicked, for the Lord will be at your side and will keep your foot from being snared.

14. Psalm 27:1 Of David . The LORD is my light and my salvation– whom shall I fear ? The LORD is the stronghold of my life– of whom shall I be afraid?

15. Psalm 91:1-4 Whoever dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty. I will say of the Lord, “He is my refuge and my fortress, my God, in whom I trust .” Surely he will save you from the fowler’s snare and from the deadly pestilence. He will cover you with his feathers, and under his wings you will find refuge; his faithfulness will be your shield and rampart.

16. Psalm 5:11 But let all who take refuge in you be glad; let them ever sing for joy. Spread your protection over them, that those who love your name may rejoice in you.

17. Proverbs 18:10 The name of the LORD is a strong fortress ; the godly run to him and are safe.

18. Psalm 144:2 He is my loving God and my fortress, my stronghold and my deliverer, my shield, in whom I take refuge , who subdues peoples under me.

19. Exodus 14:14 The LORD will fight for you, and you have only to be silent .

there are still many more similar verses in the Christian Bible

Typical christians consoling words: "Ooh don't worry dear, god works in mysterious ways you know. His ways are not our ways. He knows his reasons for everything."
Does god ever protect his followers? Is he even capable??
It's high time you guys wake up from slumber and face reality, not defending the stories made by some ancient men from a certain culture with every strength in your body.

Yahweh is either incompetent, liar or nonexistent and Christianity is a lie

But can't u see that believing in these quotations will help someone overcome fear and anxiety. I already told u, people worship God because they instinctively know it's good for them. It doesn't benefit God.and it doesn't obligate God to do anything. God does whatever he wants to do
Re: Uchenna Obuna Killed In The Ozubulu Catholic Church Massacre (Photos) by larrybee2017(f): 1:18pm On Aug 08, 2017
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tolugar:

This is pure evil

Yea her "soup" will surly rest in peace
cheesy cheesy cheesy God have mercy on you
Re: Uchenna Obuna Killed In The Ozubulu Catholic Church Massacre (Photos) by WetinConsignMe: 1:20pm On Aug 08, 2017
hopefulLandlord:


the only knowledge you have about your god comes from indoctrination, you would've been worshipping Vishnu if you were born in india

Well helpfulLandlord, u r right there, I no go lie
Re: Uchenna Obuna Killed In The Ozubulu Catholic Church Massacre (Photos) by Martinez19(m): 1:20pm On Aug 08, 2017
WetinConsignMe:


But can't u see that believing in these quotations will help someone overcome fear and anxiety. I already told u, people worship God because they instinctively know it's good for them. It doesn't benefit God.and it doesn't obligate God to do anything. God does whatever he wants to do
God does whatsoever he wants to do..... Blah blah blah. If something won't be tested, proved and verified then it is not worth taking seriously.
Re: Uchenna Obuna Killed In The Ozubulu Catholic Church Massacre (Photos) by hopefulLandlord: 1:24pm On Aug 08, 2017
Jerrypolo:

With all due respect to my Muslim brothers.
How do you feel about the Holy Quran ??
same sheet, different toilets

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Re: Uchenna Obuna Killed In The Ozubulu Catholic Church Massacre (Photos) by WetinConsignMe: 1:24pm On Aug 08, 2017
Jerrypolo:


With all due respect to my Muslim brothers.

How do you feel about the Holy Quran ??

I think Mohamed (PHBU) made up portions of it to justify doing certain things he wanted

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