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Is Satan God's Sheepdog? - Paul Ellis by jiggaz(m): 5:33pm On Aug 08, 2017
The Book of Job is one of the most amazing stories in the Bible, but we read it wrong two ways. First, we elevate Job into some kind of faith hero. Second, we think the devil is a sheepdog sent by the Lord to do his dirty work. This crazy notion is based on the following passage:

Then the Lord said to Satan, “Have you considered my servant Job? There is no one on earth like him; he is blameless and upright, a man who fears God and shuns evil.” “Does Job fear God for nothing?” Satan replied. “Have you not put a hedge around him and his household and everything he has? You have blessed the work of his hands, so that his flocks and herds are spread throughout the land. But now stretch out your hand and strike everything he has, and he will surely curse you to your face.” The Lord said to Satan, “Very well, then, everything he has is in your power, but on the man himself do not lay a finger.” Then Satan went out from the presence of the Lord. (Job 1:8-12)

The traditional interpretation is that the Lord set Job up for disaster by dangling him in front of the devil like a marshal might dangle a convict’s shirt in front of a bloodhound.

“You smell Job, boy? You smell his good works and how much he hates evil?”

“Grrrr. Grrrr.”

“Get him, boy! Go! Rip his life apart!”

What a terrible portrayal of our heavenly Father!

According to the traditional view there is no difference between God and Satan. The devil did the deed, but God was a collaborator. God permitted it. He “allowed” it to happen.

Thankfully, this is one of those times where something is lost in translation. Let’s read those verses again in a word-for-word translation such as Green’s Literal Translation of the Holy Bible (LITV):

And Jehovah said to Satan, Have you set your heart on My servant Job because there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and upright man, fearing God and turning away from evil? (Job 1:8, LITV)

In other words, “Satan, why are you gunning for Job? Is it because he’s a good guy? Is it because he won’t fall for your evil schemes?”

Do you see? God isn’t setting Job up at all. He’s letting Satan know that he’s onto him. “I’m watching you, Satan.” The Lord is not unaware of the devil’s schemes.

The fact is, Satan was gunning for Job. Not only did Satan want to hurt Job, he wanted the Lord to do it! Look at what Satan says:

Stretch out your hand and strike everything he has, and he will surely curse you to your face. (Job 1:11)

The audacity of this schemer! How brazen! First the accuser tries to manipulate God: “Job only fears you because you’ve put a hedge about him and blessed him” (verses 9-10). Then he dares the Lord to strike this good man Job! Of course, the Lord isn’t about to fall for Satan’s tricks, yet verse 12 seems to suggest he does.

The Lord said to Satan, “Very well, then, everything he has is in your power…” (Job 1:12)

At first glance it seems that God has just been conned by the devil into giving him permission to go after Job. Really? And we fall for that? Or worse, we think the Lord would fall for it?! Let’s read that verse in a literal translation:

And Jehovah said to Satan, Behold, all that is his is in your hand! Only, do not lay your hand on him. And Satan went out from the face of Jehovah. (Job 1:12, LITV)

The Lord is not giving Satan permission; he’s stating a fact. Job was already under Satan’s thumb. Why does the Lord say that? Because of this:

We know that we are children of God, and that the whole world is under the control of the evil one. (1 John 5:19)

As Tom Tompkins explains in his book, Understanding the Book of Job, God gave control of the earth to man…

The highest heavens belong to the Lord, but the earth he has given to mankind. (Psa 115:16)

…but in the Garden of Eden man handed control to Satan. So when the Lord says “all that is his is in your hand!” he is stating a painful fact that will ultimately cost Jesus his life.

To sum up, here are four lies that we get from misreading Job 1:

Lie #1: Satan needs God’s permission to attack us

Satan didn’t ask for permission to go after Job because he didn’t need permission. In the Garden of Eden we opened the door to sin and have been reaping the consequences ever since.

The good news is it doesn’t have to be this way. By the grace of God the devil flees when we resist him (James 4:7). Don’t be like Job and let the thief plunder your house. Be like David who encouraged himself in the Lord and fought back (1 Sam 30:6).

Lie #2: God uses Satan as a sheepdog to keep the sheep in line

Woof! What nonsense. What fellowship does light have with darkness (2 Cor 6:14)?

Lie #3: God gives us sickness and suffering to teach us character

Satan’s aim was to trick God into harming Job, something that God would never do. Although Job thought God was responsible for his loss, God sent Elihu to set him straight. Elihu is a picture of Jesus who went around “healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him” (Acts 10:38). Jesus doesn’t give sickness; he takes it from us.

Lie #4: God “allows” sickness and suffering to afflict us

God does not work for the devil. If God gave the thief permission to rob you, he wouldn’t be a thief.

First Adam lost control of the planet, but last Adam took back what the devil stole. In Christ you are destined to reign like a king (Rom 5:17). But you won’t reign if you heed the lies above and follow Job instead of Jesus.

Grace and peace to you.


https://escapetoreality.org/2015/10/28/is-satan-gods-sheepdog/

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Re: Is Satan God's Sheepdog? - Paul Ellis by jiggaz(m): 6:38am On Aug 09, 2017
Noted.....
Re: Is Satan God's Sheepdog? - Paul Ellis by jiggaz(m): 8:00pm On Aug 09, 2017
jiggaz:
Noted.....
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Re: Is Satan God's Sheepdog? - Paul Ellis by owoleola: 12:32am On Aug 10, 2017
I believe it was God's plan to bring upon Job those calamities,for reasons known to Him(could be to prove the devil wrong)........and also to point out firmly,God wasn't responding to the devil here(that is,He did not bring those calamities upon Job just because the devil prompted Him),instead,because God had determined to do so,the devil came around.......,the devil is a tool in God's hands to achieve His purposes.
Re: Is Satan God's Sheepdog? - Paul Ellis by jiggaz(m): 7:24am On Aug 10, 2017
owoleola:
I believe it was God's plan to bring upon Job those calamities,for reasons known to Him(could be to prove the devil wrong)........and also to point out firmly,God wasn't responding to the devil here(that is,He did not bring those calamities upon Job just because the devil prompted Him),instead,because God had determined to do so,the devil came around.......,the devil is a tool in God's hands to achieve His purposes.
God did not bring that calamity on Job. God is no author of evil. The devil brought the calamity on Job through Job's help. Job was always fearful that calamity will come upon him and he was also self righteous. That gave the devil an inroad into his life.

Job even said that what he feared had befallen him. The devil uses fear in the life of believers to enter and destroy their lives. Job also thought he was too good and that he was the most righteous person. Always running from evil. He depended on his works and not on God, that gave the devil a loophole into his life.

But at the end of it all, Job learnt a lesson. He started depending on the Grace of God and not on his "righteous" deeds.
Re: Is Satan God's Sheepdog? - Paul Ellis by cyborg123(m): 7:50am On Aug 10, 2017
If the world is under the control of satan, then what is the essence of prayer?
Re: Is Satan God's Sheepdog? - Paul Ellis by jiggaz(m): 11:09am On Aug 10, 2017
cyborg123:
If the world is under the control of satan, then what is the essence of prayer?
With prayer, we believers overcome the evil in this world because Christ ( The Overcomer) lives in us.

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Re: Is Satan God's Sheepdog? - Paul Ellis by Nobody: 11:30am On Aug 10, 2017
owoleola:
I believe it was God's plan to bring upon Job those calamities,for reasons known to Him(could be to prove the devil wrong)........and also to point out firmly,God wasn't responding to the devil here(that is,He did not bring those calamities upon Job just because the devil prompted Him),instead,because God had determined to do so,the devil came around.......,the devil is a tool in God's hands to achieve His purposes.
Exactly!. How many of us can be like Job in this present generation? How many can withstand the heat,the shame and shock Job had in one day? Common child barrenness, some persons are looking elsewhere for help instead of tackling the issue as couple, the man or woman tries plan b by committing adultery.
Re: Is Satan God's Sheepdog? - Paul Ellis by jiggaz(m): 4:56pm On Aug 10, 2017
Evening
Re: Is Satan God's Sheepdog? - Paul Ellis by GodsMopol: 5:58pm On Aug 10, 2017
I love those two verses you used. I have not really been reading much of Paul Ellis's material but I was touched seeing him combine Psalms 115:16 and 1 John5:19. I was sharing the same with Akintom lifeispeace and veegeecee some while ago

Jesus said, am the way, the truth and the LIFE, the same Jesus is the prince of PEACE, so JesusisPeace and LifeisPeace
Re: Is Satan God's Sheepdog? - Paul Ellis by jiggaz(m): 9:25pm On Aug 10, 2017
GodsMopol:
I love those two verses you used. I have not really been reading much of Paul Ellis's material but I was touched seeing him combine Psalms 115:16 and 1 John5:19. I was sharing the same with Akintom lifeispeace and veegeecee some while ago

Jesus said, am the way, the truth and the LIFE, the same Jesus is the prince of PEACE, so JesusisPeace and LifeisPeace
Thank you.
Re: Is Satan God's Sheepdog? - Paul Ellis by jiggaz(m): 9:20am On Aug 11, 2017
Noted
Re: Is Satan God's Sheepdog? - Paul Ellis by lifeispeace: 1:59pm On Aug 13, 2017
GodsMopol:
I love those two verses you used. I have not really been reading much of Paul Ellis's material but I was touched seeing him combine Psalms 115:16 and 1 John5:19. I was sharing the same with Akintom lifeispeace and veegeecee some while ago

Jesus said, am the way, the truth and the LIFE, the same Jesus is the prince of PEACE, so JesusisPeace and LifeisPeace
Shared your half baked Bible verses for me to do what?
Well done undecided
Re: Is Satan God's Sheepdog? - Paul Ellis by GodsMopol: 2:07pm On Aug 13, 2017
lifeispeace:
Shared your half baked Bible verses for me to do what?
Well done undecided

Do me a favour, remove that (f) stuff after your moniker and make it the (m) it should be.

#transgenderist
Re: Is Satan God's Sheepdog? - Paul Ellis by lifeispeace: 2:13pm On Aug 13, 2017
GodsMopol:


Do me a favour, remove that (f) stuff after your moniker and make it the (m) it should be.

#transgenderist
you've made no sense at all.
Clap for yourself.
Christians always deviating from intelligent arguments.
I don't have a word for you.
Oh! BTW, I hope you paid your tithe and offering today undecided
And finally, I ain't M
Re: Is Satan God's Sheepdog? - Paul Ellis by GodsMopol: 2:50pm On Aug 13, 2017
lifeispeace:
you've made no sense at all.
Clap for yourself.
Christians always deviating from intelligent arguments.
li
I don't have a word for you.
Oh! BTW, I hope you paid your tithe and offering today undecided
And finally, I ain't M

Sure I did
With some loud claps, joy in my heart and the sheeple dance step.
O, its the latest dance step in town.

Should in case you have paid your tithe to your false religious leaders who you formerly called pastor or Revd, kindly go ask for a refund. Cause I'm so blessed, all I do is give give no matter what.

In case you are Brooklyn, pm me ASAP

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