Before I start, if you are not a child of God....you will not understand these brief facts about the holy Spirit.

Jesus in John 16 vs 12 said " I have yet many things to say unto you, but you cannot bear them now"
In verse 13, " Howbeit when HE the spirit of Truth is come, he will guide you into all truth.

Reason why many cannot understand the concept of God and his nature.
It is spiritual and cannot be understood by human reasoning.

2. He is the spirit of God and is God.
Act 5 vs 3 " why has Satan filled thing heart to lie to the HOLY GHOST"

In verse 4 ".....thou has not lied unto men but unto God".

Ananias and Sapphira died after this pronouncement from Peter.

Lie to holy Spirit you lie to God.

John 14 vs 18- 26
The following can be drawn
1. Jesus will send the holy Spirit the comforter
2.in verse 18 , I will not leave you comfortless, I will come to you
3.in verse 23, " anyone who loves me will keep my word....and we will come to him and make our abode with him......"we"
In Genesis, " come, let US make man in our image" God was speaking
In summary,

Holy Spirit is coming to us as the comforter, Jesus will come to us because he will not leave us comfortless. WE will come to him.

Mathew 28 vs 19

Go yea and teach all NATIONS. Baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son and of the Holy ghost.

Holy ghost is also part of the works of salvation.

He is not a force..."He" as used by Jesus in John

A force will not have a name....." In the name of the Father, son,...

He is the spirit of God .
Jesus was conceived in Mary by the holy ghost luke 1 vs 35

Mathew 28 vs 19

Go yea and teach all NATIONS. Baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son and of the Holy ghost.

Holy ghost is also part of the works of salvation.

He is not a force..."He" as used by Jesus in John

A force will not have a name....." In the name of the Father, son,....

He is the spirit of God.
Jesus was conceived in Mary by the holy ghost. Luke 1 vs 35

He is the source of power to Jesus.
All the miracles he did, raising the dead after four days..etc

" How God anoited Jesus Christ with holy ghost and power"

" The Spirit of the Lord is upon me.....he has annoited me to preach......"

He is the source of power to a child of God.

1 The holy Spirit can be grieved
2. Any blasphemy against Christ shall be forgiven but no forgiveness of any blasphemy against the holy Spirit.

The holy Spirit is the seal on the children of God.

The HOLY GHOST guides his own..

In the scriptures, the holy Spirit told Paul at a certain time not to preach in Asia.


If you don't want to labour in vain, listen to the holy Spirit.

John 14 vs 16,17.

Even the spirit of Truth. Whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him. But ye know him. For he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

The world cannot understand somethings. Because they lack the spirit of God.

We know him, and he dwells in us.

God dwells in us.

What a wonderful thing to say.

Originakalokalo:
Before I start, if you are not a child of God....you will not understand these brief facts about the holy Spirit.

Jesus in John 16 vs 12 said " I have yet many things to say unto you, but you cannot bear them now"
In verse 13, " Howbeit when HE the spirit of Truth is come, he will guide you into all truth.

Reason why many cannot understand the concept of God and his nature.
It is spiritual and cannot be understood by human reasoning.

it does not exist.

pls, could you explain the concept of one God as in trinity. I grew up in a religious background, help my reason

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GodsMopol:
pls, could you explain the concept of one God as in trinity. I grew up in a religious background, help my reason

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felixomor, asuustrike2009, originakalokalo, judedwriter, mrpresident1, and co. thanks.

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felixomor:

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felixomor:


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The concept of trinity is man made concept that is derived from the Bible.
From the beginning of creation in Genesis to the end of times in Revelation, God refers to Himself as "us" or "our" and thus describes the doctrine of the Trinity. The word trinity comes from "tri" meaning three and "unity" meaning one. God is three distinct individuals - God the Father, the Son Jesus, and the Holy Spirit - in one true God. Some biblical backing to this rhema are
1. 2 Cor 13:14 "May the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all"
2.John 10:30 "I and the Father are one.”
3.Matthew 28:19 "
" Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
It's a concept that the carnal man can't understand except with frequent study and the leading of the Holy Ghost. God manifesting himself in Jesus Christ and leaving his spirit the Holy Ghost on humanity. This is the concept of trinity

PrecisionFx:



it does not exist.

John 14 vs 17....Even the spirit of Truth, whom the world CANNOT RECEIVE, because it sees him not, neither knoweth him.but you know him, for he dwelleth WITH YOU and shall be IN YOU.

This is why u don't know him.

I don't believe only because I read it.

I believe because he works in me. He guides, he comforts, he shows me things to come.

Sorry brother.

Originakalokalo:


John 14 vs 17....Even the spirit of Truth, whom the world CANNOT RECEIVE, because it sees him not, neither knoweth him.but you know him, for he dwelleth WITH YOU and shall be IN YOU.

This is why u don't know him.

I don't believe only because I read it.

I believe because he works in me. He guides, he comforts, he shows me things to come.

Sorry brother.

Lmao, sorry because I know the whole holy spirit is a scam

asuustrike2009:

The concept of trinity is man made concept that is derived from the Bible.
From the beginning of creation in Genesis to the end of times in Revelation, God refers to Himself as "us" or "our" and thus describes the doctrine of the Trinity. The word trinity comes from "tri" meaning three and "unity" meaning one. God is three distinct individuals - God the Father, the Son Jesus, and the Holy Spirit - in one true God. Some biblical backing to this rhema are
1. 2 Cor 13:14 "May the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all"
2.John 10:30 "I and the Father are one.”
3.Matthew 28:19 "
" Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
It's a concept that the carnal man can't understand except with frequent study and the leading of the Holy Ghost. God manifesting himself in Jesus Christ and leaving his spirit the Holy Ghost on humanity. This is the concept of trinity

Well said sir. I will also chip in some verses.

Let's start with our Natural phenomenon.

1. State of matter, solid, liquid and gas

2. Atoms, Proton, Neutron and eletrons

3. Water... Ice, water and steam.. same water different phase and character.

4. Man ,.....body., soul and spirit.
5. God.... Father, son, Holy Ghost.

These things are key to the existence of natural phenomenon.

What is the Creator of Heavens and Earth telling us?
Are these just mere coincidence?


We shall turn to the scriptures which is our only source for answers.

Those things I listed are just observations.

4amorc:
“There is absolute quiet. A wonderful feeling of safety and peace pervades this room.”
In the introduction to this monograph, the class master assures each reader that they will make “the most interesting cosmic contacts you have ever experienced”. The entire passage is available at www.amorconline.com . This part of the monograph is geared towards one main brainwashing technique, visualization.
Visualization is a technique as old as time, it formed the basis for religious practices dating back to Chinese Buddhism in which “Maitreya Visualization” was one of the 6 sutras. In ancient texts the practice involved mentally constructing an image of a specific object or scene, in many cases, there was a reverential or devotional aspect ascribed to these meditations.
In our text, the class master asks students to visualize the room, as described above; going into great detail to help readers gain a clear image in their mind,
“visualize yourself in a room with the walls, ceiling, and floor all of stone with only a small rug, a small washstand, a single iron bed, a table with two chairs, and a small wardrobe.”
The purpose of this vivid imagery is to bypass the brain’s conscious thought processes. For the mind’s eye, seeing really is believing. Constant visualization is one of the most powerful tools imaginable, and it can be used for good or evil. Many people who have achieved great things attribute their success to imagining themselves in the positions and lifestyles they’d like to be; literally turning dreams into reality. On a neural level, visualization creates new pathways in the brain that trigger real actionable habits to coalesce.
In this case, the monograph is focused on a particular goal. To attune the reader into a sense of calm acceptance, it then links that feeling to a clear mental picture of seclusion and solitude. In essence, the reader is being taught to associate mental and emotional wellbeing with isolation.

Please read this Monograph and all the other Monographs at www.amorconline.com

The devil told them....you shall not die, you will only BE LIKE GOD.

He appealed to the part of man that wants Power and new experience.

Stop looking for powers that are weak. Note that I didn't say power that do not exist. Whatever you do outside God's power if from the devil, demons.

They surrender whenever God's Power is present. As though they don't exist.

The only supreme Power is of God most high.

In the presence of God's power, this weak powers just vanish.

God bless you.

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In addition to what has been mentioned,

Jesus is the word of God.

In the book of luke, the holy ghost plus power produce the word of God in the flesh which is Jesus.This is what happened at his birth.

Nobody has been conceived this way.ever.

God is invincible. Cannot be seen.

His physical manifestation is Jesus Christ.

The disciples asked him..... show us the father.

He said ...if you have seen me you have seen the father..... Jesus said I COME FORTH FROM GOD.

One God. Not seen.invincible.
Manifested in the Flesh as Jesus.
And his Spirit is Holy Spirit.


God who is a spirit has a spirit.and he made himself visible by becoming a flesh.

A SIMILAR case....water in solid form which is ice, and liquid form, and in gaseous form which is steam/ vapour.

It exists in three different forms. But it is water.



Holy Ghost will interpret the rest to you.

They say Jesus didn't call himself God..

He told the devil,... Thou shall not tempt the Lord your God.

And he answered also in the book of Mathew.

The Lord God is Only One God.

See?

Jesus said... The world doesn't know the holy Spirit because they cannot SEE him.

We his children cannot see him too. Yet we know him.

Hmmmm.. Mystery.

It is simple.

To the world, SEEING IS BELIEVING.

To his children, BELIEVING IS SEEING.

Originakalokalo:
1 The holy Spirit can be grieved
2. Any blasphemy against Christ shall be forgiven but no forgiveness of any blasphemy against the holy Spirit.

Brother,
You are absolutely correct on this statement here.
I'm also liking what I'm reading about your analysis of the Holy Spirit (in each post).
Only 1 statement that I'm "if-y" about (but that's for another time)....but as a whole you've gotten His role correct.
He also convicts of sin in one's life...but you basically nailed it.

MsNgo40:



Brother,
You are absolutely correct on this statement here.
I'm also liking what I'm reading about your analysis of the Holy Spirit (in each post).
Only 1 statement that I'm "if-y" about (but that's for another time)....but as a whole you've gotten His role correct.
He also convicts of sin in one's life...but you basically nailed it.

Thanks. God bless.

What's the statement. Let's talk about it. We learn everyday.

Originakalokalo:



Thanks. God bless.

What's the statement. Let's talk about it. We learn everyday.

No problem...I think it was the statement about the "Seal of God" being the Holy Spirit.
Would you explain this further for me? I was just wondering about that.
Thanks

MsNgo40:



No problem...I think it was the statement about the "Seal of God" being the Holy Spirit.
Would you explain this further for me? I was just wondering about that.
Thanks

You were sealed with the holy Spirit of promise.

Ephesians 1 vs 13.

A seal is a symbol used to show ownership or authority.

A child of God is marked as God's with the holy Spirit.

Sealed for separation, ownership and protection.

Originakalokalo:



You were sealed with the holy Spirit of promise.

Ephesians 1 vs 13.

A seal is a symbol used to show ownership or authority.

A child of God is marked as God's with the holy Spirit.

Sealed for separation, ownership and protection.

Ok..and thanks for being civil in the way you responded.
I should've known that verse.
I was thinking about something else.

MsNgo40:


Ok..and thanks for being civil in the way you responded.
I should've known that verse.
I was thinking about something else.

You are welcome.

Analysis of Section Initiate Degree 7 Monograph 1, 2, 3
(Defending AMORC against Pierre S. Freeman Critics)

The teachings of these three monographs make it clear that the preposterous claims made by Pierre S. Freeman regarding the physic phenomenon stand false.

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The Initiate Section Degree 7, Monographs 1, 2 and 3 of AMORC’s Rosicrucian Order, like the preceding monographs, exemplify the widely held beliefs of the Order; but with a focus on the psychic phenomenon, its perception and its centres.

The message of the first monograph is regarding the Psychic Body. Psychic in the context of this monograph refers to the psychic body and the amount of awareness affiliated with it. By this, it connotes that human beings are “dual beings”, and have two energies - the spirit (negative energy) and the mind (positive energy). Going by the first Temple degree rule which states that a third energy emerges when two complementary energies meet, thus forming the psychic body. The Initiate Section Degree 7, Monograph 1, 2 and 3 juxtaposes the psychic body with the physical body, in that it comprises body parts too. But the difference lies in the fact that it has the unique property of perpetuation; meaning that although energy reduces in ill health, the psychic body form remains the same. The permanence of the psychic body part was adduced to be the reason amputees sometimes feel the physical (phantom) presence of the amputated body part, even in its absence. When the psychic body disintegrates, it enters a state of inertness, but its form remains as mentioned earlier.

The second monograph delves deeper into the subject of the psychic body, this time placing emphasis on perception of the psychic phenomenon. While discussing the Psychic Centres, the class master makes it clear that the phenomenon of psychic centres, like the Indian-cum-Tibe’schakraboth, refers to the centres associated with the reception and distribution of energies transmitted in the cosmos. Deep breathing and yoga are said to have a positive impact on the spreading of psychic energies to the psychic centres. Humans have twelve psychic centres which were also exhibited in the Practical Application section of the monograph. The twelve psychic centres can be developed through constant mystic exercising. Psychic Perception was also treated in this monograph. The monograph explained that the perception of psychic energies that are not perceivable by the natural five sense organs, are perceivable by the psychic centres of the psychic body. And that performing mystical exercises helps to increase the perceptive acuity of these psychic centres. The psychic centres at the pituitary and the pineal were named major contributors to psychic perception too.

Psychic Consciousnesses was the major focus in the third monograph. Just as it was taught in the sixth Temple degree, the hypothalamus is the centre of consciousness in the physical body. The psychic centre at the hypothalamus is said to account for consciousness in the psychic body and consciousness there is felt throughout the psychic body. Every human is granted the capacity to have psychic awareness throughout the psychic body; yet it baffles us to note that only few are capable of manifesting extrasensory perception abilities. The class master explains in the monograph that the reason for this was all embedded in the fact that most people lack interpretation of the psychic perceptions they make; not that we all don’t receive psychic information every day. Also, most of the information so received does not reach the psychic centre at the hypothalamus due to its poor development as a result of lack of engagement in the mystical exercises that develop it.

The teachings of these three monographs make it clear that the preposterous claims made by Pierre S. Freeman regarding the physic phenomenon stand false.
 
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