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Re: Disappointments/Difficulties Every Atheist Can Relate With by hopefulLandlord: 3:06pm On Aug 30, 2017 |
JackBizzle: leave that one abeg 1. he's so concerned about the usefulness of this thread to future atheist, makes you wonder what makes him so concerned 2. says we are consoling ourselves which even if true is no business of his can you see how his attention seeking is getting more and more obvious? starve him of it in this thread bro but hey, he's "on our side" and that's got to count for something 2 Likes |
Re: Disappointments/Difficulties Every Atheist Can Relate With by JackBizzle: 3:13pm On Aug 30, 2017 |
butterflylion: Swerve |
Re: Disappointments/Difficulties Every Atheist Can Relate With by JackBizzle: 3:14pm On Aug 30, 2017 |
hopefulLandlord: I should have known better. Thanks |
Re: Disappointments/Difficulties Every Atheist Can Relate With by butterflylion: 3:15pm On Aug 30, 2017 |
hopefulLandlord: So this thread where atheists are on a bed of consolation is none of my biz Abi? But Christian threads where Christians gather to encourage is your biz. I see you cannot take what you dish out on a daily. Well I am concerned because its simply logical to be concerned and to do things right. You complain so suggest solutions...simple! So much hypocrisy in you oh hopeful one. 1 Like |
Re: Disappointments/Difficulties Every Atheist Can Relate With by butterflylion: 3:17pm On Aug 30, 2017 |
JackBizzle: Shock me with your coping mechanism oga. Swerve is not a coping mechanism 1 Like |
Re: Disappointments/Difficulties Every Atheist Can Relate With by dalaman: 3:41pm On Aug 30, 2017 |
JackBizzle: You'd be suprised that they'll even support you sometimes against their own when you have money and they know you are going to give them. Nigerians only care that you have money and you are going to give them. They DON'T CARE how you make your money, they DON'T CARE about anything at all, all they CARE about is that you HAVE money and you are going to GIVE them. They can only talk behind your back but when you come to them they will do as you say. They will even bring gossips to you to report those that are saying bad things about you to you just to enter your good books.They keep reporting themselves to me everyday while I sit back and laugh at them all. I am seriously enjoying the show. 2 years ago I went to the hospital to visit a sick relative, prior to going there I had already informed my mum that I was going to help my widowed aunt settle the remaining bills for her sick daughter when I get there and my mum told her. When I got there her church people were there praying for my cousin that was already recovering very well, but the way they went about the prayers was just crazy, instead of silently praying and going there way they started this mountain of fire kind of prayers inside a hospital oo, disturbing other patients and the doctors, one female doctor came and told them to just stop it and they started saying that their prayers was disturbing the doctor and her spirits that are tying the people down on their sick beds, openly suggesting that she's a witch or some demon that's why she was telling them to stop praying, bla bla bla. I was shocked. I immediately jumped in and told them to shut up or they will be thrown out. It almost lead to a physical altercation. If their useless shouting works then why were they there in the hospital in the first place I told them. They should have taken my cousin to the church and prayed for her and shout all they want instead of coming to the hospital. I was suprised when my aunt came to my support ooo. She supported me and told them to stop it. She knows that if they annoy me and I leave they will have to pray for the money to come down for her. They know she's an underemployed widow, they also know that she needed money but they didn't come with 1 naira to help her out, only to come and be shouting and disturbing people inside the hospital with their useless prayers. I was shocked that she supported me. She did not tell them to tone their shouting down she just told them to stop it. If you have money and they know that you'll give them they will support you. Unless if you foolishly start telling them that there is no God to their faces in a mocking and disparaging way or you tell them that the bible or Koran is a lie in a mocking way, only then will you enter wahala even as a rich person. But if you do it subtly they will tolerate you and support you sef, so long as they know that money will reach them from your side. 1 Like |
Re: Disappointments/Difficulties Every Atheist Can Relate With by JackBizzle: 3:59pm On Aug 30, 2017 |
dalaman: Nice one bro. I am very calm in real life. I learnt how mad religious people can be very early as my very own cousin threatened me with a knife for "disrepecting Jesus". Na only nairaland i get mouth. But every once in while, I let righteous anger get the best of me. There was a day in my office where I had to blast a colleague for interjecting with her religious bullshite. I didnt respond to her when she said "Jesus loves you" to me randomly- which made her to start asking me if I am a real christian that likes christ. I simply told her that I cannot love christ as i am not a homosexual that is into Jewish men. You should have seen the reaction on her face. Some of my colleagues bursted out in laughter. 1 Like |
Re: Disappointments/Difficulties Every Atheist Can Relate With by dalaman: 4:25pm On Aug 30, 2017 |
JackBizzle: . You can't help but let righeous anger get the best of you when dealing with some of the over zealous Nigerian religious people. They hate me because of the way I go against this their tithe brouhaha or talk down on some of their pastors sometimes. They TRULY BELIEVE that if you talk bad about their pastors something bad will happen to you. I speak bad about their pastors openly, I try to let them know that these tithe, first fruit, seed sowing, divine favor sowing etc are not necessary. It will NOT make them rich. I always cite real life examples starting with myself. They listen angrily and can not counter because they know any telling them the truth. Some just say may God show me the way and open my eyes bla bla bla. They still don't know am an atheist. Most of them don't even know what atheism means. They don't know that there are people that don't believe in God. They feel everyone is either a christian or a muslim. . |
Re: Disappointments/Difficulties Every Atheist Can Relate With by Ajakayekoke(m): 4:25pm On Aug 30, 2017 |
hopefulLandlord: Mr If you are rich as You said,Can You help me?i am trying to start a transportation business,i have over 40%,of the capital,still saving up,Can/will you help?You are kuku rich... |
Re: Disappointments/Difficulties Every Atheist Can Relate With by hopefulLandlord: 4:29pm On Aug 30, 2017 |
Ajakayekoke: bro, where in this thread did I claim to be "rich?" are you sure you aren't quoting the wrong person? maybe you're tryna troll me? |
Re: Disappointments/Difficulties Every Atheist Can Relate With by Ajakayekoke(m): 5:00pm On Aug 30, 2017 |
hopefulLandlord: Sorry Boss,maybe I made a mistake,their is a Man,here that have been talking about"cos he's rich,cos he is rich"so I wanna see him flaunt and we already know what he's gonna say...No vex jare |
Re: Disappointments/Difficulties Every Atheist Can Relate With by Ajakayekoke(m): 5:05pm On Aug 30, 2017 |
chemystery: Mr If you are rich as You said,Can You help me?i am trying to start a transportation business,i have over 40%,of the capital,still saving up,Can/will you help?You are kuku rich... |
Re: Disappointments/Difficulties Every Atheist Can Relate With by QuietHammer(m): 5:36pm On Aug 30, 2017 |
Ajakayekoke:You are still quoting the wrong person. Dalaman is your man. Before you ask him, are you a theist? Have you asked your God? 3 Likes |
Re: Disappointments/Difficulties Every Atheist Can Relate With by chemystery: 6:11pm On Aug 30, 2017 |
Ajakayekoke: hopefulLandlord: |
Re: Disappointments/Difficulties Every Atheist Can Relate With by Ajakayekoke(m): 6:17pm On Aug 30, 2017 |
QuietHammer: I give up,aint Quoting him no more.@my God,he ain't my God¬ even close&can never be close,all you fake ass atheist,just be thankful to God cos he's merciful,if cancer/a deadly killer points a Gun@You,you are definitely,Gon say your last prayer,won't you? |
Re: Disappointments/Difficulties Every Atheist Can Relate With by frank317: 6:19pm On Aug 30, 2017 |
For me, I don't feel this way... My family, my friends and co workers all know I am an atheist. I am the kind of guy the takes charge of my environment... Rule my world and have a way of making people listen to me. I also have a way of making people look stupid. My self esteem is at top notch... I make Religious folks look stupid because I talk better than them all. My study in psychology made me make myself an authority. My fiance is a Catholic (trad wedding is on 30th sept by the way, u are invited) and loves listening to me argue, she says she likes the way I present my case despite not in agreement. She thinks am the smartest and nicest guys she has dated. People still love me as an atheist... Friends and well wisher all want to be at my wedding, knowing I have openly declared war on their belief but I see no difference in the way they relate to me... I receive at least 150k as dash every week since the day I announced my trad date and more is coming that I might not touch my savings. Am not rich, just an average guy, yet my belief does not affect me in any way. People have always loved me for being real and outspoken... I am just the kind of guy u can't be an enemy to.. ask analice. This is because u will definitely be on the loosing side. 1 Like |
Re: Disappointments/Difficulties Every Atheist Can Relate With by dalaman: 7:12pm On Aug 30, 2017 |
frank317: Nice. Glad to hear that your ways work for you as an open athiest. The only person that knows am an atheist is my wife (but she encourages me not to tell people). My father inlaw is suspecting me maybe that's because he's a closet athiest himself. He doesn't go to church or engage in any religious activity. That has made my wife to accept my atheism because she grew up with a dad that stopped going to church when she was a teenager. That kind of made her to accept that some people can be irreligious when I came out and told her that I am no longer a believer. I became an atheist after we got married and she is now very cool with it. She always tells me that she'll beg her God to take me to heaven. |
Re: Disappointments/Difficulties Every Atheist Can Relate With by chemystery: 7:14pm On Aug 30, 2017 |
frank317:I love this! . |
Re: Disappointments/Difficulties Every Atheist Can Relate With by chemystery: 7:15pm On Aug 30, 2017 |
Where is the location of your wedding frank317? |
Re: Disappointments/Difficulties Every Atheist Can Relate With by chemystery: 7:28pm On Aug 30, 2017 |
dalaman:Hmmmmn, being a closet atheist at a point was just useless to me. I'm on the right track so why should I be in hiding? If all atheist remain hidden, then this superstition called religion will continue to thrive. And also, if the world eventually comes to realize there is no god, it will be on record and in assumption of everyone alive then that you were among those who believed in an imaginary friend. And then, maybe hopefullandlord's grandchildren will laugh at your grandchildren that their grandpa believed in an imaginary friend and also soliloquized in name of talking to such friend. Whereas you were an atheists |
Re: Disappointments/Difficulties Every Atheist Can Relate With by chemystery: 7:31pm On Aug 30, 2017 |
dalaman, since your wife is a christian, does she take your kid(s) to church? Cos this was the problem i'm having with my fiancee. According to her doesn't have problem with me being an atheists, but her marriage must be done in church and blessed by a priest. And that her kids must also go to church, and they must be Christians. This is just a problem to me. Tell me how you do it |
Re: Disappointments/Difficulties Every Atheist Can Relate With by chemystery: 7:35pm On Aug 30, 2017 |
vaxx:You are a pagan! - according to Christian or Muslim definition. But you don't need to worry. So long as there is an atheists by the corner, you are their best friend |
Re: Disappointments/Difficulties Every Atheist Can Relate With by dalaman: 7:55pm On Aug 30, 2017 |
chemystery: My children are christians. They will grow up to be very liberal christains. They don't have the kind of indoctrination I had. My wife attends COZA so she takes them with her. But I still teach them some of my ways. I tell them witches and wizards are fictional and not real, I let them know that most of the superstitions they hear around are not real. Luckily kids today are growing in a very different environment compared to ours, they have access to information we never had. Over time as they get old and reason better I'll tell them about the history of Christianity and how it came to be, how the bible came to be, let them read about other religions and how they came about. Just let them read about religion from a historical point of view and let them know why I am an atheist. I really don't care if they end up as atheist or not. I just want them to understand why I am not a christian and accept my choice the way their mum has accepted it and is very cool with it. 1 Like |
Re: Disappointments/Difficulties Every Atheist Can Relate With by frank317: 7:55pm On Aug 30, 2017 |
chemystery: My village... Mbaise in imo state But I stay in ajah Lagos |
Re: Disappointments/Difficulties Every Atheist Can Relate With by chemystery: 8:19pm On Aug 30, 2017 |
dalaman: Hypatia said: "Fables should be taught as fables, myths as myths, and miracles as poetic fantasies. To teach superstitions as truths is a most terrible thing. The child mind accepts and believes them, and only through great pain and perhaps tragedy can he be in after years relieved of them" Don't you think introducing a child to Christianity first will cause them to accept and believe in it and it will eventually take greater pain and much effort for that child to free himself. Don't you think it would have been better they start with "No religion" (not atheism), then you teach them about Christianity as well as other religion. Then teach them to think rationally about these believes and leave the choice for them to make. For me, I won't mind my kids being a christian, Muslim or any other religion, but they must make their own choices. They mustn't be an atheist like me. No! But starting them with any particular religion or atheism is what I won't do. Well, your case might be different. You might probably have been going to church with them before you became an atheists. 1 Like |
Re: Disappointments/Difficulties Every Atheist Can Relate With by QuietHammer(m): 8:21pm On Aug 30, 2017 |
Ajakayekoke:I never said he was your God, what's it with theists and cognitive dissonance? As for the "no atheists in foxholes" arguement kindly go through Hopefullandlord's topics and be enlightened, he already treated it. 2 Likes |
Re: Disappointments/Difficulties Every Atheist Can Relate With by chemystery: 8:24pm On Aug 30, 2017 |
frank317:Not too far from me. I will contact you before then if I'd be coming. |
Re: Disappointments/Difficulties Every Atheist Can Relate With by vaxx: 8:33pm On Aug 30, 2017 |
chemystery:thanks bro |
Re: Disappointments/Difficulties Every Atheist Can Relate With by dalaman: 8:52pm On Aug 30, 2017 |
chemystery: Yeah, I strarted going to church with my first daughter. The second was lIle a year when I became an atheist so she's never seen me engage in any religious activity. Letting your children grow up in Nigeria without religion isn't a good thing in my opinion. It will lead them to different types of trouble especially in school. If you are living in Europe or America then fine you can do that. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Disappointments/Difficulties Every Atheist Can Relate With by frank317: 9:13pm On Aug 30, 2017 |
chemystery: Wow, that would be great |
Re: Disappointments/Difficulties Every Atheist Can Relate With by chemystery: 9:31pm On Aug 30, 2017 |
dalaman:You said the truth. Well, when we reach the river, we'll think on how to cross. For now let's keep rolling with our lives. |
Re: Disappointments/Difficulties Every Atheist Can Relate With by hopefulLandlord: 6:40am On Feb 28, 2018 |
Amazing thread |
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