hopefulLandlord:
Jode, I'm an atheist

onto your post, there's a bit of fallacy in your thinking right now that's called "False Dichotomy Fallacy"

you're only considering 2 options which are Atheism and Christianity, whereas there are many others you seem not to be either aware of or are ignoring

I think from your writeup, atheism repulses you but you don't see yourself remaining a Christian while being true to yourself, you're probably realising the claims of Christianity are not true but you can't take the jump from Christianity to atheism, why not learn about Deism? Pantheism? Panentheism? pandeism and many other labels and see which one fits you properly?

Or better still, there is Islam, Judaism and loads of other religion

adepeter2027:

You and your God are confused oo

how?

My God that I serve and believe in is not an author of confusion.

Proudgorgeousga:


It is comments like this that make people lose their faith. So to be a Christian you have to lose your senses and become a slowpoke?

: “Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world” (1 John 4:1).


blind faith is not the answer.

I didn't say he should become a retard but when you're coming to the throne of grace you should act like you know nothing because in the Bible it said the best wisdom of men is foolishness before God

The person you're worshipping knows better than you so why don't you give up on all your human wisdom when you're before God

mrwonlasewonie:
how?

My God that I serve and believe in is not an author of confusion.

What's d name of that your god? Is it Yahweh? If that's the one you're talking about, that one is not even the author of confusion but CONFUSION itself.

0temAtum:
What's d name of that your god? Is it Yahweh? If that's the one you're talking about, that one is not even the author of confusion but CONFUSION itself.

mrwonlasewonie:
I didn't say he should become a retard but when you're coming to the throne of grace you should act like you know nothing because in the Bible it said the best wisdom of men is foolishness before God

The person you're worshipping knows better than you so why don't you give up on all your human wisdom when you're before God

"give up all your human widsom" means what? is it not to become willfully ignorant.?

it is acting like you know nothing that make people brand their children witches and eat grass. Your God supposedly gave you a brain to reason.

Hello o,ladies and Gentle men am new here plz show a brother some love.

An2elect2:
A Christian has experienced the power of what he or she professes and is dead and alive.

Assuming your response above determines who a Christian is, how can you demonstrate that the Poster here has not experienced the power of what he or she professes and is dead and alive for you to safely conclude that he was not a Christian at first?

0temAtum:
What's d name of that your god? Is it Yahweh? If that's the one you're talking about, that one is not even the author of confusion but CONFUSION itself.

do not blaspheme

Proudgorgeousga:


"give up all your human widsom" means what? is it not to become willfully ignorant.? Mi

it is acting like you know nothing that make people brand their children witches and eat grass. Your God supposedly gave you a brain to reason.

no.give up on all your human wisdom is to acknowledge that fine you might have something upstairs but in the presence of God you're just like a child. It said in proverbs

LEAN NOT ON YOUR OWN UNDERSTANDING. IN ALL YOUR WAYS ACKNOWLEDGE HIM AND HE WILL MAKE YOUR PATH STRAIGHT

when you're dealing with men you can use your 5 physical senses .that's what they're made for,to be used.but when you come before God you come in humility and reverence before him.with God you need to put logic, facts,principles ,evidences, predictions and calculation aside and walk with him in FAITH. For he said in the Bible WITHOUT FAITH IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO PLEASE HIM.faith and logical reasoning cannot work together. Faith is blind belief

DeSepiero:


Assuming your response above determines who a Christian is, how can you demonstrate that the Poster here has not experienced the power of what he or she professes and is dead and alive for you to safely conclude that he was not a Christian at first?

Here's where you're headed sir..just saving you some time with my chicken scribbles.

mrwonlasewonie:
do not blaspheme

haha you're new to this section

hopefulLandlord:


haha you're new to this section

I'm not sir/ma

mrwonlasewonie:
no.give up on all your human wisdom is to acknowledge that fine you might have something upstairs but in the presence of God you're just like a child. It said in proverbs

LEAN NOT ON YOUR OWN UNDERSTANDING. IN ALL YOUR WAYS ACKNOWLEDGE HIM AND HE WILL MAKE YOUR PATH STRAIGHT

when you're dealing with men you can use your 5 physical senses .that's what they're made for,to be used.but when you come before God you come in humility and reverence before him.with God you need to put logic, facts,principles ,evidences, predictions and calculation aside and walk with him in FAITH. For he said in the Bible WITHOUT FAITH IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO PLEASE HIM.faith and logical reasoning cannot work together. Faith is blind belief

lawd!
you are still repeating yourself

your last paragraph says one needs to put facts principles evidences and logic aside and just believe, this type of mindset is dangerous and breeds extremism and mumu sheeples that eat grass.


believing something without facts or evidence is foolishness

I 've got no time to go round in circles.

mrwonlasewonie note :I'm not attacking your answer to the OP just your concept of blind faith it is ridiculous.

mrwonlasewonie:
..but when you come before God you come in humility and reverence before him.with God you need to put logic, facts,principles ,evidences, predictions and calculation aside and walk with him in FAITH. For he said in the Bible WITHOUT FAITH IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO PLEASE HIM.faith and logical reasoning cannot work together. Faith is blind belief

Jesus!!! I mean, I've always known this to be true, just never heard it so blatantly extolled as if it's a virtue. My word!

Proudgorgeousga:



lawd!
you are still repeating yourself

your last paragraph says one needs to put facts principles evidences and logic aside and just believe, this type of mindset is dangerous and breeds extremism and mumu sheeples that eat grass.


believing something without facts or evidence is foolishness

I 've got no time to go round in circles.

The guy clearly doesn't know what he's talking about.

mrwonlasewonie:
I didn't say he should become a retard but when you're coming to the throne of grace you should act like you know nothing because in the Bible it said the best wisdom of men is foolishness before God

The person you're worshipping knows better than you so why don't you give up on all your human wisdom when you're before God

Jode, this man said you should brainwash yourself whenever you are reading your Bible where Yahweh resides. But I tell you Jode, your human wisdom is whom you are. You are already gradually coming towards your purpose in life. Soon you'll see that you're wiser than Yahweh and you don't need him.

AgentOfAllah:


Jesus!!! I mean, I've always known this to be true, just never heard it so blatantly extolled as if it's a virtue. My word!

But that's true. Faith indeed is blind belief if you are to follow it to the core. The bible clearly tells them that they are to throw away their wisdom and reasoning abilities and accept what ever it teaches them by saying that God will confuse the wise and that the best wisdom of men is foolishness unto God. Faith blind belief indeed.

mrwonlasewonie:
do not blaspheme

Eta-n-tagba 14:3
3. For that same god whom you fear to death is the mock song of other people.


Don't you know that by telling me this, you are also blaspheming me, god Otem, the destroyer of the faith of Yahweh your god? From that passage of Eta-n-tagba above, it's clear to me that you're scared of your god to death. But my own mission is to mock all bad gods and liberate the world from mind slavery. Read the DOCTUFOS OF TRUTH for more.

AgentOfAllah:


Here's where you're headed sir..just saving you some time with my chicken scribbles.

Funny enough thats true; I'd give her the benefit of the doubt then.

0temAtum:



Eta-n-tagba 14:3
3. For that same god whom you fear to death is the mock song of other people.


Don't you know that by telling me this, you are also blaspheming me, god Otem, the destroyer of the faith of Yahweh your god? From that passage of Eta-n-tagba above, it's clear to me that you're scared of your god to death. But my own mission is to mock all bad gods and liberate the world from mind slavery. Read the DOCTUFOS OF TRUTH for more.

are you a Satanist? What is eta-ntagba?

0temAtum:
Jode, this man said you should brainwash yourself whenever you are reading your Bible where Yahweh resides. But I tell you Jode, your human wisdom is whom you are. You are already gradually coming towards your purpose in life. Soon you'll see that you're wiser than Yahweh and you don't need him.

op don't fall for this trick.this was exactly the same trick Satan used to entice Eve in the garden of eden when Satan spoke through the serpent that if she disobeys God she will become wiser and come to full self realisation. Its a trap of the devil. Don't fall for it.

Satan is very clever and subtle. He uses the same gimmicks in different ways through different people. Don't let him deceive you

When will Felixmoron ever get sense na? The OP outlined why he is.loosing his faith in christianity and our resident mor0n is talking about fornication, masturbation and pornography.

Why o why?

Hello Jode,

I once found myself in a position similar to yours. I said similar because at that point I had no doubt in my heart that GOD existed(and I believe that nobody can sincerely doubt that). I was only fed up with the lifeless routine of activities in my church then. I began to long for truths which were not taught in my church then. That was until GOD mercifully opened my eyes. Today, I am happy because the truth has set me free.

Satan, through his godless agents masquerading as "scientists", has tried(and has gained considerable success) in presenting science as diametrically opposed to the Bible. This is a far from the truth as the East is from the West. GOD Himself is a Scientist.

I suggest you visit good sites like answersingenesis.org and creation ministeries international to see how good science is untangled from the threads of falsehood which godless people have woven around it. I tell you, science in its pure form reaffirms faith in GOD.

GOD bless you.

DeSepiero:


Assuming your response above determines who a Christian is, how can you demonstrate that the Poster here has not experienced the power of what he or she professes and is dead and alive for you to safely conclude that he was not a Christian at first?

You see... if he is dead and alive why would he ask a question only those who have never died and live again ask? If a man has God in him it's preposterous to question God's existence.

You see now, an impossible question for the Christian to ask. I know that life the Op is living, yeah i know cos I was there too!

mrwonlasewonie:
are you a Satanist? What is eta-ntagba?

I am an Otemite or simply call me a brain user. Eta-n-tagba is a deep Yoruba word. You can simply go through all the GREAT WORD in ETA-N-TAGBA wise sayings.

DOCTUFOS: Eta-n-tagba
Chapter One
1. When light comes, enlightenment follows.
2. The codes that make the brain function are rewritten in many lands where the brains are critically used.
3. And inventions become possible.

Chapter Two
1. The codes of the heads are rewritten after much critical thinking.
2. A homo who thinks within the circle cannot rewrite the code of his brain.
3. But one who thinks out of the circumference of the circle is ready for a change of brain code.

Chapter Three
1. The homos of Urope have rewritten the code of their brains by critical thinking.
2. They have expanded their brain function out of the circle.
3. And they have captured the minds of the homos of Aferk.

Chapter Four
1. The homos of Aferk have neglected their brains.
2. They have exchanged their religions for the religions of Urope.
3. They cannot excel beyond the circle.

Chapter Five
1. A colonised brain cannot decode the hard codes.
2. How then can it invent anything?
3. Religious noise is the only thing it can make.

Chapter Six
1. Religions are the personal philosophies of the gods.
2. That is why there are thousands of religions in the world.
3. Do not immerse yourself in religion, for the beginner of a religion is the god of his adherents.

Chapter Seven
1. Religion gives birth to religion.
2. A leaver of one religion shall become the leader of another religion.
3. But making findings is the delight of God the Universe.

Chapter Eight
1. A wise homo loves nature.
2. He finds natural cure to his ailments through herbs and medicine with meditations.
3. But an unwise homo goes about to be cheated by those who worship the gods.

Chapter Nine
1. Religious fear shortens a lifespan.
2. But making findings and meditating prolongs it.
3. A god is not born but made.

Chapter Ten
1. Dare to be a god and not a worshipper.
2. For knowledge is god and ignorance is his worshipper.
3. You become a god when you are knowledgeable enough. And the world will deify you when you least expect.

Chapter Eleven
1. He who starts the story of a demon does not know what he is doing.
2. For his own children's children to the twentieth generations shall partake of the story of fear he has planted.
3. For demons are the product of imaginations and they are as real as a fiction.

Chapter Twelve
1. The best way to control the mind of a child is to tell him that a masquerade is coming.
2. The best way to control the minds of adults is to tell them that a god is coming.
3. You shall have the mind of billions of adults by so doing.

Chapter Thirteen
1. An ignorant homo will explain what he does not understand in a way that his fellow ignorant homos shall think that they now understand it vividly.
2. But all such are false knowledge.
3. And when a wise person comes to explain that same thing in truth, the ignorant homos shall not listen to him.

Chapter Fourteen
1. If the scribes have said that the fear of a god is the beginning of knowledge, I have come to say otherwise;
2. Therefore I say, the fear of a god is the beginning of stupidity.
3. For that same god whom you fear to death is the mock song of other people.

Chapter Fifteen
1. If religion is the primary purpose of your life, you shall achieve no meaningful result in life.
2. But if making findings is put first before any god, you shall never be in bondage.
3. For the religious are in some cages not seen. But the seekers of universal knowledge are free.

Chapter Sixteen
1. No book is holy; for some books have been called holy because they are full of the philosophies of the gods.
2. But I tell you, the philosophies of those who do findings are far better than the philosophies of the gods of religion.
3. For the so-called holy books all command you to kill those who do not follow their own religions, but the philosophies of those who do findings arbor such things.


Chapter Seventeen
1. There is no devil as a personality.
2. Every time you do bad, you are momentarily a devil.
3. But when you do good, your goodness shall turn you back to your natural self.

Chapter Eighteen
1. Whoever puts humanity in the bondage of fear the most is qualified to take the title Satan.
2. For many gods before you have taken such title; and Yahweh possess such title naturally because he is the greatest of all homo-haters.
3. Therefore don't be deceived, Yahweh is Satan, for even his scribes detect him to be so. But they fear to challenge his authority, even though they have written him as Satan in their books.

Chapter Nineteen
1. The power of the mind is the greatest of all.
2. For the powerless in mind shall incur sicknesses upon his own body.
3. But the powerful in mind shall use his mind to resist all sicknesses.

Chapter Twenty
1. Spoken words are waves.
2. They can achieve both positive and negative feats.
3. Therefore when anyone says that he prophesies evil against you or your land, neutralise his prophecy immediately by speaking out.

Chapter Twenty-One
1. Do not ponder upon evil suggestions.
2. For evil suggestions have achieved many negative responses.
3. Focus on your own thoughts more than suggestions here and there.

Chapter Twenty-Two
1. Do not believe an orator just because he could speak so well.
2. Believe him only because you have thoroughly searched him out and found him true.
3. For oratory brings with it hypnotism and sheperdism if the listeners are low-thinkers.

Chapter Twenty-Three
1. He who concentrates on his brain at tender age shall become a genius in his youth.
2. But he who neglects his brains for emotions only shall become a sheep in his youth.
3. For sheep are poor in the mind and spirit, therefore they are called stupid.

Chapter Twenty-Four
1. Holiness is a term for the hypocrites.
2. But righteousness is a term for those who do the right things.
3. Pursue after righteousness by doing the right thing.

Chapter Twenty-Five
1. The greatest liar I have ever seen is Eubius.
2. For he wrote a false history of Faulkin, calling things that did not happen as if they did.
3. But I have come to write them as they happen exactly.

Chapter Twenty-Six
1. When a liar dies, he does not rest in Peace.
2. For he is often afraid that a living soul would dig up his lies.
3. For so was Eubius the magician of written words who forged the histories and decieved many generations after.

Chapter Twenty-Seven
1. Truth is not given whole, but bit by bit.
2. For if the truth about the beginning of the universe has been given all at once before our own time, then shall the world cease to exist.
3. For when nothing is left to be discovered, there shall be no need to remain on earth. For that would mean the end to findings which God ALMIGHTY have sent living beings to do.

Chapter Twenty-Eight
1. A fearful homo shall scare himself to health problems when he hears of aliens, flying things and horrible creatures.
2. But a wise man shall smile and say, if they exist just same way an hippopotamus exist, what should I fear for?
3. For nature has given everything its own unique habitat, therefore aliens should stay in their habitats and let a reasonable human use his brain for profitable things.

Chapter Twenty-Nine
1. A low-brained person shall demonise aliens and other horrible creatures when he hears of them.
2. Same way the ignorant homos of the past have demonized serpents, scorpions and crocodiles the first time they saw them.
3. But those who make findings shall step forward to know more.

Chapter Thirty
1. He who sees himself in hell after death should let go his fears.
2. His disillusionment shall be rubbed of him to bring his soul to the place of peace made by the universe.
3. For the universe is peace but the gods have made illusions of trouble for their fearful followers.

Chapter Thirty-One
1. A confused head does not know how to make right choices.
2. Therefore let him meditate to allow for the settling of his brain.
3. Then let him make a choice.

Chapter Thrity-Two
1. Poverty is a human invention.
2. The resources of nature can go round and remain for twenty generations after.
3. So why do humans blame God consciousness for not circulating the resources among themselves to ensure that there are no poor people?

Chapter Thirty-Three
1. When a lizard is sick, does it need a human doctor to restore back its health? Go and learn from the lizard how it gets cure to its sickness.
2. It does not spend its time blaming the unseen for its sickness, but rather, he goes for cure where there is cure. Therefore go to the hospitals when you are sick, rather than praying to a false god to heal you.
3. Be wise.

AgentOfAllah:


Jesus!!! I mean, I've always known this to be true, just never heard it so blatantly extolled as if it's a virtue. My word!

but that is the fact.the definition of faith was written in Hebrews chapter 11 vs 1-for now FAITH IS THE SUBSTANCE OF THINGS HOPED FOR,THE EVIDENCE OF THINGS NOT SEEN.

in American standard Bible version which is more clear said- FAITH IS THE CONFIDENCE THAT WHAT WE HOPE FOR WILL ACTUALLY HAPPEN.IT GIVES US ASSURANCE OF THINGS WE CANNOT SEE.

IN VERSE 3 IT SAID BY FAITH WE UNDERSTAND THAT THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE WAS FORMED AT GOD'S COMMAND, THAT WHAT WE NOW SEE DID NOT COME FROM ANYTHING THAT CAN BE SEEN.

do you understand the point now?

0temAtum:
I am an Otemite or simply call me a brain user. Eta-n-tagba is a deep Yoruba word. You can simply go through all the GREAT WORD in ETA-N-TAGBA wise sayings.

what and who is eta whatever? Is it a demon or what?

DoctorAlien:
Hello Jode,

I once found myself in a position similar to yours. I said similar because at that point I had no doubt in my heart that GOD existed(and I believe that nobody can sincerely doubt that). I was only fed up with the lifeless routine of activities in my church then. I began to long for truths which were not taught in my church then. That was until GOD mercifully opened my eyes. Today, I am happy because the truth has set me free.

Satan, through his godless agents masquerading as "scientists", has tried(and has gained considerable success) in presenting science as diametrically opposed to the Bible. This is a far from the truth as the East is from the West. GOD Himself is a Scientist.

I suggest you visit good sites like answersingenesis.org and creation ministeries international to see how good science is untangled from the threads of falsehood which godless people have woven around it. I tell you, science in its pure form reaffirms faith in GOD.

GOD bless you.

thank you for that


*claps*

DeSepiero:


Funny enough thats true; I'd give her the benefit of the doubt then.

Giving people the benefit of doubt is good virtue! I pray it's worth your while.

mrwonlasewonie:
what and who is eta whatever? Is it a demon or what?

Demons don't exist except the ones you create for yourself.

DOCTUFOS: Eta-n-tagba 11:1-3
1. He who starts the story of a demon does not know what he is doing.
2. For his own children's children to the twentieth generations shall partake of the story of fear he has planted.
3. For demons are the product of imaginations and they are as real as a fiction.

. Christians and Muslims create demons with their brains and become scared of them for the rest of their lives. Eta means three. Check the collection of words in ETA-N-TAGBA above, you'll see they are made of three verses per chapter and altogether we have 33 chapters.

0temAtum:
I am an Otemite or simply call me a brain user. Eta-n-tagba is a deep Yoruba word. You can simply go through all the GREAT WORD in ETA-N-TAGBA wise sayings.

smh.only a fool sayeth in his heart,there is no God. You are clearly a Satanist no doubt and light cannot have anything to do With darkness you infidel