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Re: Why Are Nigerian Musicians Forever Copying African American/jamaican Artistes? by nich(m): 7:13pm On Mar 05, 2010
@ OP,

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Re: Why Are Nigerian Musicians Forever Copying African American/jamaican Artistes? by ayepogan(m): 7:24pm On Mar 05, 2010
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Re: Why Are Nigerian Musicians Forever Copying African American/jamaican Artistes? by Krayola(m): 8:00pm On Mar 05, 2010
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I only saw half the first one cause I don't have much time now, but I like very very mush. wink
Re: Why Are Nigerian Musicians Forever Copying African American/jamaican Artistes? by eldee(m): 8:31pm On Mar 05, 2010
Krayola:

Reggae has been, and still is, more popular internationally than Fuji, Juju, Afrobeat, or any other genre that has come out of Nigeria. That is just the fact. That we are Nigerian does not mean we should lose all objectivity and just argue out of pride. It is, IMO, petty. I kinda agree with Mzdarkskin.

And some of our Fuji, Juju, and Afrobeat artists IMO, have been more successful internationally that the artists we have today.

Let's stop being overly sentimental here . . . reggae is nowhere near as popular as it used to be in the days of Bob Marley.
Right now, Americans rule the scene . . . I don't get how you can come here to say Jamaicans are on top.

The only Raggae been listened to today outside Jamaica is from the late 80s . . . I don't know how you guys measure this.
It's even obvious in her last post . . . I said, name any Jamaican on the Billboard charts, she couldn't mention one.
In songs that are delivered in English, conquering America is usually the yardstick.
Re: Why Are Nigerian Musicians Forever Copying African American/jamaican Artistes? by Sauron1: 8:38pm On Mar 05, 2010
cap28:

im sick and tired of watching these fake talentless nigerian artistes with limited talent and zero originality aping and mimicing african american and jamaican musicians.  What happened to talent and originality.  I used to be proud to be a nigerian when people like Fela Kuti and Egypt 80 performed, King Sunny Ade, Onyeka Onwenu and Ayinde Barrister.

what happened to that golden era?
now every time i turn on my tv i see these pathetic talentless morons "singing" very badly with scantily clad women gyrating in the background - why are we going backwards?  African americans and jamaican music reflects their experiences in a white dominated environment  which does not accept nor recognise their humanity, this is where such genres as the blues and jazz came from why are nigerians who have never left nigeria aping and mimicing this sort of music.  Why cant we be proud of our unique culture and experience and stop copying - blacks in the west dont want to listen to africans trying to copy americans and jamaicans its of no interest to them.  What would attract interest would be a unique form of african music like Fela's afrobeat.

anyway thats my view

This post is contradictory. . . . . .
Fela displayed more scantily-clad women than the artistes of this generation and Fela's profanities were second to none.
The artistes are only giving back what the consumers require. U cannot blame Wande Coal for that. Blame the rot in our society.
Re: Why Are Nigerian Musicians Forever Copying African American/jamaican Artistes? by Krayola(m): 8:42pm On Mar 05, 2010
eldee:

Let's stop being overly sentimental here . . . reggae is nowhere near as popular as it used to be in the days of Bob Marley.
Right now, Americans rule the scene . . . I don't get how you can come here to say Jamaicans are on top.

The only Raggae been listened to today outside Jamaica is from the late 80s . . . I don't know how you guys measure this.
It's even obvious in her last post . . . I said, name any Jamaican on the Billboard charts, she couldn't mention one.
In songs that are delivered in English, conquering America is usually the yardstick.

Well . .  I didn't try to read meaning that i did not feel was intended by the poster into her post. I don't think she meant reggae is the top selling music genre in the world. Principle of charity?

Reggae is very popular in North America even till today. I can't stand reggae, in fact I absolutely hate it (besides baba Marley and dem of course) but i know it is still very popular, outside of the Jamaican community. We even have Naija reggae artists for crying out loud. Reggae is no longer an indigenous genre IMO. . . IT IS ON DA MAP!!!
Re: Why Are Nigerian Musicians Forever Copying African American/jamaican Artistes? by Krayola(m): 8:43pm On Mar 05, 2010
~Sauron~:

This post is contradictory. . . . . .
Fela displayed more scantily-clad women than the artistes of this generation and Fela's profanities are second to none.
The artistes are only giving back what the consumers require. U cannot blame Wande Coal for that. Blame the rot in our society.

Damn. . . where have u been? Good to see u again.
Re: Why Are Nigerian Musicians Forever Copying African American/jamaican Artistes? by Sauron1: 8:45pm On Mar 05, 2010
Krayola:

Damn. . . where have u been? Good to see u again.

Hamunaptra!
Re: Why Are Nigerian Musicians Forever Copying African American/jamaican Artistes? by Krayola(m): 8:48pm On Mar 05, 2010
~Sauron~:

Hamunaptra!


hunh?!?! They should have kept u there grin

I need to discuss sumn wit u. Preferably outside NL. . . what it do?
Re: Why Are Nigerian Musicians Forever Copying African American/jamaican Artistes? by Sauron1: 8:50pm On Mar 05, 2010
Krayola:

hunh?!?! They should have kept u there grin

I need to discuss sumn wit u. Preferably outside NL. . . what it do?

Concerning? grin
Re: Why Are Nigerian Musicians Forever Copying African American/jamaican Artistes? by Krayola(m): 8:54pm On Mar 05, 2010
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Re: Why Are Nigerian Musicians Forever Copying African American/jamaican Artistes? by Sauron1: 8:58pm On Mar 05, 2010
Krayola:

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Cash Rules. . . . .
Whatz your YIM?
Re: Why Are Nigerian Musicians Forever Copying African American/jamaican Artistes? by chic2pimp(m): 9:00pm On Mar 05, 2010
Krayola:

Damn. . . where have u been? Good to see u again.
According to Dobo, he was detained and locked up by the U.K border Force undecided grin
Re: Why Are Nigerian Musicians Forever Copying African American/jamaican Artistes? by Krayola(m): 9:01pm On Mar 05, 2010
On my way out now tho. But I'll be on later and probably most of tomorrow. Thanks.
Re: Why Are Nigerian Musicians Forever Copying African American/jamaican Artistes? by Nobody: 9:02pm On Mar 05, 2010
InesQor:

@MzDarkSkin: Oh there you are again, my Yardie friend! LOL. I guess I should refrain from agreeing with you on all these things lest your numerous detractors start attacking me as well.  cool

LOL! seriously. You know they like to follow ppl on NL and attack? Children indeed.

@Post
I'm noticing some ethnicentric ppls are getting too red in the head for a simple post. I did NOT say Jamaicans are ON top as in the best, NO, I SAID WE ARE AMONG those on top because we are not AFRAID to culturally collide/ ally ourselves with other nationalities and cultures. Let's get it right. ENOUGH with the Jamaica hate. I do NOT care who do and who don't like Jamaica or reggae (because not even your likes or dislikes are enough to stop our spirit- not EVEN close) but FACTS ARE FACTS. Jamaican music is on the map because no matter how much you hear it on the radio, you play ONE Jamaican song and thats enought to get the party moving: FACT. What I am saying being that the topic is NOT about superiority, is that Nigerian artists are actually doing themselves GREAT justice by interacting with us of the diaspora again: FACT.

@ Eldee dont test me, you challenged me so heres the proof:

TOP 100s:
#27 Do You remember- Jay Sean & SEAN PAUL

Top 200 Albums:
#115 Legend: Best of Bob Marley

I got too lazy  grin to type them all, plus I have work to do so you look. Then afterwards, you post the Nigerians who are on the Billboards…If you can.
Reggae Albums Top Selling list:
http://www.billboard.com/charts?tag=nav#/charts/reggae-albums

Hottest of the decade:
http://www.billboard.com/charts?tag=nav#/charts-decade-end
Re: Why Are Nigerian Musicians Forever Copying African American/jamaican Artistes? by Sauron1: 9:03pm On Mar 05, 2010
Krayola:

On my way out now tho. But I'll be on later and probably most of tomorrow. Thanks.  

See you when i see you
Go and buy FIFA10. . . . .It's been a while i whupped your grimey backside on PSN.
Re: Why Are Nigerian Musicians Forever Copying African American/jamaican Artistes? by Krayola(m): 9:10pm On Mar 05, 2010
Haha,  I suck at that game. My friends have made me hate it. I got into it too late and now I'm playing catch up with everyone. Please delEte my yim from your quote before my dead uncle wants me to inherit eight oil refineries in Alaska.  grin
Re: Why Are Nigerian Musicians Forever Copying African American/jamaican Artistes? by Sauron1: 9:15pm On Mar 05, 2010
Krayola:

Haha, I suck at that game. My friends have mad me hate it. I got into it too late and now I'm playing catch up with everyone. Please delEte my yim from your quote before my dead uncle wants me to inherit eight oil refineries in Alaska. grin

U had your chance to buy it when it came out but you'd rather spend that dough on $5 strippers in Ottawa.
Re: Why Are Nigerian Musicians Forever Copying African American/jamaican Artistes? by ziga: 10:13pm On Mar 05, 2010
Just like technology and every other thing, music too has to move along. The kind of music we get now in Nigeria reflects what most of the people that matter in the music business love listening to. And music is business. You give people what they want or you are a loser.

If you are finding it difficult to identify with the current type of music, then i would say you have trouble letting go of your past. Just like the old school guys who will never want to have anything to do with a computer. They just love their pen and paper and would defend it at all cost.

In summary, i'm just saying, the fact that you don't like it does not mean its all trash.

And by the way, jamaican artists that have not been afraid of letting go of their sentiments ("copycats") have done better internationally e.g sean paul, sean kingston but the ones who stick to their anti-batty man anthems e.g vybz kartel, movado haven't gone beyond the shores of the caribbean.

Its all about business!
Re: Why Are Nigerian Musicians Forever Copying African American/jamaican Artistes? by Ndipe(m): 10:16pm On Mar 05, 2010
Re: Why Are Nigerian Musicians Forever Copying African American/jamaican Artistes? by megchi: 11:51pm On Mar 05, 2010
hey guys,  let be proud of our own for once, afterall it is not bad for students to copy their teachers. grin
Re: Why Are Nigerian Musicians Forever Copying African American/jamaican Artistes? by shotster50(m): 2:33am On Mar 06, 2010
Saying all Nigerian musicians are crap and useless is a very crass generalization. Like a few people here have said, most Nigerians musicians are entertainers and they are giving the fans what they want. If you do not like em, hook up with Reuben Abati I am pretty sure you can work something out.
Re: Why Are Nigerian Musicians Forever Copying African American/jamaican Artistes? by ayepogan(m): 3:19am On Mar 06, 2010
Krayola:

I only saw half the first one cause I don't have much time now, but I like very very mush.  wink
   
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Re: Why Are Nigerian Musicians Forever Copying African American/jamaican Artistes? by Wrex(m): 6:40am On Mar 06, 2010
Tcrack:

@poster
Get your head out of your backside.what do you mean by TALENTLESS NIGERIAN ARTIST? if they were talentless, how come they keep getting more international recognition and awards?surly in a big industry like we have in nigeria, there would be some wachkos but it would be silly of you to call nigerian artist generally talentless. secondly,if you think nigerian artist copy americans, come to brazil and see the way brazilian artist copy too, same as ghanians, jamaicans,south africans etc.even uk artist copy too.when someone is leading it is only normal that others will copy him and as of today, american artists are leading. entendido?
I support you jare.We should learn to appreciate our own.At least,they are internationally recognised.Bleep off you heavy haters
Re: Why Are Nigerian Musicians Forever Copying African American/jamaican Artistes? by dmxqo(m): 9:37am On Mar 06, 2010
Music is art, no body can judge its rightness or wrongness lyric_wise. Altho' the video thing is nt appropriate but i dnt thnk its a copying from d west. Our Nigerian Fashion is actually going 'nude' so it wud naturaly enta art.
Re: Why Are Nigerian Musicians Forever Copying African American/jamaican Artistes? by eldee(m): 1:01pm On Mar 06, 2010
MzDarkSkin:

@ Eldee dont test me, you challenged me so heres the proof:

TOP 100s:
#27 Do You remember- Jay Sean & SEAN PAUL

Top 200 Albums:
#115 Legend: Best of Bob Marley

I got too lazy  grin to type them all, plus I have work to do so you look. Then afterwards, you post the Nigerians who are on the Billboards…If you can.
Reggae Albums Top Selling list:
http://www.billboard.com/charts?tag=nav#/charts/reggae-albums

Hottest of the decade:
http://www.billboard.com/charts?tag=nav#/charts-decade-end


Jay Sean?? Isn't he like Indian or sumn?? Sean Paul?? B[i]i[/i]tch please that nigga is as American as the word goes.
I rest my case . . . The best selling Jamaican albums were composed in the 1980s.
When I said Jamaican music had lost relevance you said I was lying . . . now you post proof for my post.

Right now it's all about the US, Europe and Latin America . . . Caribbean music is as irrelevant as African music is to the Western world.
Re: Why Are Nigerian Musicians Forever Copying African American/jamaican Artistes? by kufreabasi(m): 1:17pm On Mar 06, 2010
they dont have anything to offer, Imitation leads to limitation
Re: Why Are Nigerian Musicians Forever Copying African American/jamaican Artistes? by qed(m): 1:38pm On Mar 06, 2010
Re: Why Are Nigerian Musicians Forever Copying African American/jamaican Artistes? by idifu(m): 1:59pm On Mar 06, 2010
u said it already they are all talentless, none of dem has impressed me.
Re: Why Are Nigerian Musicians Forever Copying African American/jamaican Artistes? by idifu(m): 2:14pm On Mar 06, 2010
even the so called tuface and Dbanj are nothing but hype, they aren't talented to me, i dont care if folks are gonna love to hear dis truth or not, Tuface and Dbanj would neva shine if it were in d dayz of the old when we had professionals running the music industry in Nigeria and not all of these ignorant modafuckas who don't know what music is about, Fela is music,Sunny ade,Ebenezer obey,christy essien igbokwe,orlando owoh,orlando julius,felix liberty, chris okotie,dizzy k falola,alex zitto, majek fashek,ras kimono,mandators, orits wiliki,shina peters e.t.c these guys were music and not the crap we hear on radio these days, they all lack originality.
Re: Why Are Nigerian Musicians Forever Copying African American/jamaican Artistes? by splashbaby(m): 2:35pm On Mar 06, 2010
eldee:

Let's stop being overly sentimental here . . . reggae is nowhere near as popular as it used to be in the days of Bob Marley.
Right now, Americans rule the scene . . . I don't get how you can come here to say Jamaicans are on top.

The only Raggae been listened to today outside Jamaica is from the late 80s . . . I don't know how you guys measure this.
It's even obvious in her last post . . . I said, name any Jamaican on the Billboard charts, she couldn't mention one.
In songs that are delivered in English, conquering America is usually the yardstick.
Hmm I can see you only listen to dead men songs wake up brov
Re: Why Are Nigerian Musicians Forever Copying African American/jamaican Artistes? by cap28: 2:53pm On Mar 06, 2010
texazzpete:

You are so amusing. For providing some much needed comic relief, i'll reward you with an answer

i await your response with bated breath - ooh here it is ,


Again another silly assumption.
it's amusing to see that you still think the African culture is richer than that of many people of the western world.


I never said that African culture in its entirety is richer than western culture - that would be a gross generalisation, however there are some aspects of our culture that ARE richer and we should be promoting those aspects rather than abandoning them and blindly copying and following a genre of music which is alien to who we are as a people

I can easily call them old fogies. You know why? Because it's a matter of personal taste and preference.
You know the first thing i learnt when growing up? Every human being is different.
Appreciating and understanding the differences in others is the first step towards maturity.
If you cannot understand that there are people who would much rather listen to Tupac than James Brown, then i'm afraid you're still a child mentally.

i have no problem accepting difference - what i take issue with is copying at the expense of your own culture, nigeria is  a nation with diverse ethnic groups and traditions this melting pot of cultures is more than adequate to provide a vast source of creativity and invention - instead we prefer to take the easy route and copy trends which are unique to other cultures - hip hop, rnb jazz, reggae, ska, dancehall were created by blacks in america and the carribean  they drew from their unique experiences in a society which kept them in a position of inferiority - these genres are authentic because they are based on personal experiences of despair and loss - take for instance the blues - this genre came about from the negro spirituals - songs sang by african slaves whilst toiling on the plantations.  

there is nothing wrong with listening to a varied mix of music, but i think there is something fundamentally wrong with a group of people abandoning their own rich heritage to take on a type of music which has no cultural relevance to its own people.


Look, if the consumers like it, then it's fine by me. And if it takes no talent to do what these fellows are doing, why arent you out there raking in the cash instead of posting embittered rants on Nairaland?


this is why we will remain backward and misinformed -everything doesnt have to be about money you know, good musicians are people who actually have a genuine love for music, who take time out to study music (which is quite difficult) who play musical instruments and who write and compose music not the fake clowns i see on Hi Nolly who couldnt sing a note to save their lives, can not read music, cant play any musical instruments, these people are artistic phillistines but because people like you with extremely low standards who demand nothing of them buy into it they keep churning out the garbage.

There's a lot more to these people than the flashy showmanship you're complaining about. But you're too blind to see that. Check out my signature below, it describes you completely.


pray tell, is there some hidden artistic message that these clowns are sending out that im missing or is it only the great texazzpete who can see it.


Speaking of ignorance, your scathing dismissal of Nigerian videos as being 'pathetic' shows how out of touch you've been with the modern reality. Top Nigerian artistes these days boast relatively good videos. If you're still watching those grainy old vids, you need to get out of the cave you've been inhabiting ASAP.

im inclined to agree with you on this - the quality of the videos is improving but the content remains substandard


Sorry, but there are many extremely powerful black men in the hip hop scene who have full oversight of the music content put out by the many black artistes in the US. Your borderline racism disturbs me slightly. Paired with your ignorance and your love for conspiracy theory, i think it's safe to say you need to take a chill pill and relax.

can you mention these "powerful black men" - do they control the marketing and distribution of their music?

what is your understanding of racism?

what conspiracy theories are you referring to?

in summary, mon ami, choice is sacred. If the public has voted to have these guys performing this way and putting out this kind of music, why are you up in arms about it?

what is your definition of "choice" and how much control does the public have over the "choices" that they make?

You think i'm happy that Yahooze shot up the charts in a nation struggling with the burden of 419? Nope! Am i thrilled that everyone seems to be using the word 'swagga' these days? Nope? But i have a life. And these things appeal to my fellow Nigerians. You don't see me coming on Nairaland like a douchebag to whine about the 'good ol' days'. I just change the channel or turn on my ipod to hear what i want.

i think the above should be the least of your concerns - perhaps if the nigerian govt could offer its youth employment,  419 wouldnt be an issue.  Dont you think your real concern should be about the way in which our country has been hijacked by a group of thugs forcing you to live in a country as an unwanted guest?

But you really amuse me, you supercilious jester. Send me your address and i'll get you an ipod filled with all the oldies you can shake your flaccid member at. That way you won't get your panties in a bunch when next Tuface comes on.
Deal?

thanx but no thanx - my brain is switched on which is more than i can say for yours, i dont need to plug myself into mindless trash in order to escape the reality of whats going on around me.

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