InesQor:

This debate na wa

Don't mind David, the guy can be very stubborn . But also very passionate about christian living.

JeSoul:

  Err on the side of scriptures - I will forever say amen to that.

Are those who believe women shouldn't wear pants also erring on the side of scriptures? those who say all genres of music other than "traditional gospel" are evil - they also erring on the side of scriptures?

The problem is you're projecting your personal conviction on the issue of tattoos and calling it "erring on the side of scriptures".

You're doing the exact same thing . . . you think (personal opinion) tattoos are cool so you will support it even without scriptural evidence. Its all emotionalism with a lot of what we call "christianity" these days.

JeSoul:

  And it is clear as e36991 just stated that she is still maturing, she needs instruction borne from love. And that does not mean we should declare ALL tattoos wrong.

and how shld we give instruction borne from love? Tell her that her tattoo is ok? (which is obviously what she wanted to hear).

Tattoos are not wrong . . . but for people who claim to be "set aside and called according to the purpose of Jesus" . . . shldnt there no longer be a standard?

JeSoul:

Your blue jeans have no spiritual value, neither does your choice of shirt color or tie, neither does your haircut, your choice of car, your choice of lunch etc.
Do these things not also matter when presenting a godly image to the world? asking for the "spiritual value" of a thing? please, David you can come up with something better than that  

this is just ridiculous. Maybe you advocate we go naked then? How does wearing a dress (a necessity to cover your unclothedness that the bible is very vocal about) become analogous with frivolous, unecessary bodily adornment like tattoos?

Soon we'll hear that boys with ear rings are cool too. Heck i saw a few at my church on sunday . . .

JeSoul:

 Of course there are glaring limitations to the freedoms afforded to us in Christ. Involvement in the immoral and sexual/sensual is clearly forbidden in the scriptures -  getting tattoos is not.

Oh until its in black-white its ok to hobnob with the world? Fornication is "clearly forbidden in the scriptures" . . . kissing isnt . . .   so get your lips here baby!

JeSoul:

  The simple question is "is getting a tattoo a sin"? a tattoo is NOT a sin. It's why you get it and what you get it for and whether or not God approved it - to that christian. What may be a sin for me, may not be for you.

Eating meat offered to idols wasnt a sin either.

the idea that its "why you get it" and whether or not God approves of it even makes the idea of a christian spotting tattoos a lot worse.

1. Why do you get a tattoo? Certainly NOT because you think it will bring glory to the kingdom. The bible says we are an epistle to be read of all men . . . what does your tattoo say about Jesus? Many forget that when we profess to die to Christ . . . we also promised to die to self. When did our will become the over-riding concern in whether we get a tattoo or not instead of what Christ would think?

2. lol you're expecting God to deliver a fatwa on whether you shld spot a tattoo or not? You go wait tire. He already left you an instruction in righteousness . . . use it.

2 Cor 3: 2 Ye are our epistle written in our hearts, known and read of all men:

When you see a man with a tattoo . . . what comes first to your mind? A life saved by grace or a life mired in worldly compromise?

davidylan:

2 Cor 3: 2 Ye are our epistle written in our hearts, known and read of all men:

When you see a man with a tattoo . . . what comes first to your mind? A life saved by grace or a life mired in worldly compromise?

That is not a man's opinion - I could ask those against wearing trousers or jewelery and they'd give an opinion that it represents wordly compromise.

They would also base that judgment on 'scriptural evidence' too.

debosky:

That is not a man's opinion - I could ask those against wearing trousers or jewelery and they'd give an opinion that it represents wordly compromise.

They would also base that judgment on 'scriptural evidence' too.

Paul solved that problem here . . .

1 Cor 8: 4 As concerning therefore the eating of those things that are offered in sacrifice unto idols, we know that an idol is nothing in the world, and that there is none other God but one.

5 For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,)

6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.

7 Howbeit there is not in every man that knowledge: for some with conscience of the idol unto this hour eat it as a thing offered unto an idol; and their conscience being weak is defiled.

8 But meat commendeth us not to God: for neither, if we eat, are we the better; neither, if we eat not, are we the worse.

9 But take heed lest by any means this liberty of yours become a stumblingblock to them that are weak.

10 For if any man see thee which hast knowledge sit at meat in the idol's temple, shall not the conscience of him which is weak be emboldened to eat those things which are offered to idols;

11 And through thy knowledge shall the weak brother perish, for whom Christ died?

12 But when ye sin so against the brethren, and wound their weak conscience, ye sin against Christ.

13 Wherefore, if meat make my brother to offend, I will eat no flesh while the world standeth, lest I make my brother to offend.

davidylan:

You're doing the exact same thing . . . you think (personal opinion) tattoos are cool so you will support it even without scriptural evidence. Its all emotionalism with a lot of what we call "christianity" these days.

 If indeed I'm doing the same thing then are you willing to conceed it is up to each believer to make up their own mind on this issue?

and how shld we give instruction borne from love? Tell her that her tattoo is ok? (which is obviously what she wanted to hear).

 Nope I didn't tell her it was just okay. I told her her motive for doing it would determine whether or not it was okay - two very different things.

Tattoos are not wrong

 Yeye boy! why can't you just say that and leave it there?   but no you must to fight lol.

. . . but for people who claim to be "set aside and called according to the purpose of Jesus" . . . shldnt there no longer be a standard?

There absolutely should. Which is why I personally will NOT get a tattoo. But I will not forbid it for others, let them make up their own minds what is proper for them.

this is just ridiculous. Maybe you advocate we go unclothed then? How does wearing a dress (a necessity to cover your unclothedness that the bible is very vocal about) become analogous with frivolous, unecessary bodily adornment like tattoos?

Soon we'll hear that boys with ear rings are cool too. Heck i saw a few at my church on sunday . . .

 Abeg no shift jare. You asked me for the "spiritual value" of a tattoo. I simply replied saying if that's the road you wanna go, what's the spiritual value of your hairstlye. Yes tattoos are uneccessary to you, but that is to YOU. Leave the next christian to decide what is "uneccessary" for themselves.

Oh until its in black-white its ok to hobnob with the world? Fornication is "clearly forbidden in the scriptures" . . . kissing isnt . . .   so get your lips here baby!

You sinner,  lol, abeg no drag me inside that one.

Eating meat offered to idols wasnt a sin either.

the idea that its "why you get it" and whether or not God approves of it even makes the idea of a christian spotting tattoos a lot worse.

1. Why do you get a tattoo? Certainly NOT because you think it will bring glory to the kingdom. The bible says we are an epistle to be read of all men . . . what does your tattoo say about Jesus? Many forget that when we profess to die to Christ . . . we also promised to die to self. When did our will become the over-riding concern in whether we get a tattoo or not instead of what Christ would think?

2. lol you're expecting God to deliver a fatwa on whether you shld spot a tattoo or not? You go wait tire. He already left you an instruction in righteousness . . . use it.

 Look oga, I no fit fight with you today ehn. Like I said, I don't disagree with your high standards for godliness - when it comes to appearance. I do draw the line in making declarations for others[b] in gray issues [/b] what should be sin or not. I'm glad you've already said tattoos themselves are not a sin - so what are we still arguing about?

Na me JeSoul dey call sinner? Kissing is NOT wrong . . . come here!

JeSoul:

   Look oga, I no fit fight with you today ehn. Like I said, I don't disagree with your high standards for godliness - when it comes to appearance. I do draw the line in making declarations for others[b] in gray issues [/b] what should be sin or not. I'm glad you've already said tattoos themselves are not a sin - so what are we still arguing about?

You and i cannot make declarations to others as regards what they do (there are no gray areas in the bible, we deliberately paint them gray because we want to compromise) . . . but when they come asking questions what do you tell them? That its ok for them to go on living a lifestyle that is an open rebellion against the God they profess to "love"?

I aint a saint by any stretch of the matter, but i dont decieve myself trying to justify my wrong-doings. A tattoo isnt a bad thing for someone who is not pretending to be a "committed christian". For such a person . . . the charge of fornication is meaningless, drinking is ok, swearing is allowed and cursing is a skill.

What of the person who claims to be a saved child of Jesus? Should we then live as the world? Each time i read this i am more convinced there is something seriously wrong with modern christianity . . .

Matt 10:22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.

this thread is simply an example of why. The world cannot hate the modern christian . . . he is no different from the world anyway.

davidylan:

Na me JeSoul dey call sinner? Kissing is NOT wrong . . . come here!

Lol, sinner, I mean David trouble dey sleep, yanga wan wake am . . .

You and i cannot make declarations to others as regards what they do (there are no gray areas in the bible, we deliberately paint them gray because we want to compromise) . . .

Ahn ahn, is it my imagination or didn't you already say tattoo in itself is not a sin - but the application of it can be? this makes it gray because it is not outright wrong like fornication.

but when they come asking questions what do you tell them? That its ok for them to go on living a lifestyle that is an open rebellion against the God they profess to "love"?

God forbid we do that. How is getting a tattoo tantamount to a "lifestyle in open rebellion to God?"

I considered for the longest time getting one, but didn't because I knew it would be a negative in the circles I'm in regardless of how pure my motives were. Another christian under different circumstances can make a different decision. That does not come close to me intending to live a rebellious lifestyle.

I aint a saint by any stretch of the matter,

Understatement of the century

but i dont decieve myself trying to justify my wrong-doings. A tattoo isnt a bad thing for someone who is not pretending to be a "committed christian". For such a person . . . the charge of fornication is meaningless, drinking is ok, swearing is allowed and cursing is a skill.

See my above response again.

What of the person who claims to be a saved child of Jesus? Should we then live as the world? Each time i read this i am more convinced there is something seriously wrong with modern christianity . . .

Matt 10:22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.

this thread is simply an example of why. The world cannot hate the modern christian . . . he is no different from the world anyway.

In Mat 10:22, I will cast my treasure in all day long. But I'm done being overly persuaded by the outward appearances of "godliness" these days. See the sharply dressed preachers in suits leading people to hell, and the convert probably tattooed prior to conversion leading a quiet life of service.

JeSoul:

Ahn ahn, is it my imagination or didn't you already say tattoo in itself is not a sin - but the application of it can be? this makes it gray because it is not outright wrong like fornication.

there are no gray areas with Christ . . . you are either justified or condemned.

JeSoul:

God forbid we do that. How is getting a tattoo tantamount to a "lifestyle in open rebellion to God?"

Getting a tattoo is a lifestyle choice . . . but what does it portray? A life devoted to Christ or one that prefers to be "cool" by worldly standards? You may not see it that way but mere unbelief is rebellion with Christ.

JeSoul:

I considered for the longest time getting one, but didn't because I knew it would be a negative in the circles I'm in regardless of how pure my motives were. Another christian under different circumstances can make a different decision. That does not come close to me intending to live a rebellious lifestyle.

The term "rebellion" connotes a negative, violent or open insubordination . . . it could actually be as simple as choosing to disobey God's will for your life.

JeSoul:

In Mat 10:22, I will cast my treasure in all day long. But I'm done being overly persuaded by the outward appearances of "godliness" these days. See the sharply dressed preachers in suits leading people to hell, and the convert probably tattooed prior to conversion leading a quiet life of service.

Its funny . . . most tattooed christians are those who got them BEFORE they got converted. Why did they stop?

davidylan:

there are no gray areas with Christ . . . you are either justified or condemned.

Agreed. In Christ - you're either saved or not. In christian doctrine - Jesus either died or not. In christian living - it is different, things are not always black and white, and frequently vary according to culture.

Getting a tattoo is a lifestyle choice . . . but what does it portray? A life devoted to Christ or one that prefers to be "cool" by worldly standards? You may not see it that way but mere unbelief is rebellion with Christ.

The term "rebellion" connotes a negative, violent or open insubordination . . . it could actually be as simple as choosing to disobey God's will for your life.

Its funny . . . most tattooed christians are those who got them BEFORE they got converted. Why did they stop?

Most does not mean the minority are doing wrong. And because "most" are like you and I and view wearers of tattoos negatively.

Davidylan:


To start with, tattoos have no known medical value . . .

Infact many permanent tattoos do extensive damage to the dermis (second layer of the skin) leaving many (especially whites) prone to melanomas.

God does know what He was doing when He frowned on tattooing . . .

your mention of the word moderation set me chuckling to myself.

Would you advocate smoking in "moderation" too?

I'd love to get me some concubines . . . in moderation of course. Who knows . . .

I just might be using this to "infiltrate" those chics "avoided" by society.

I cant afford to appear "myopic" no?

@Davidylan

You make guffaw in %$)&£*^"$* Ah-ha-ha-ha!!!

Of course, you know what I mean concerning moderation

Moderation in what is permissible. Are you permitted to have concubines? Huh?

Or is it a case of out of the heart the hand typed mouth speaketh

" . . . tattoos have no known medical value . . . " you asserted

I give you more credit than that, why slipping?

FYI concerning medical value of tattoo

A medical tattoo is a tattoo used to show the illnesses or allergetic reactions one has. Medical tattoos can be used for a number of reasons:

    * As a warning that a patient suffers from a chronic disease that can exacerbate suddenly and that will require immediate specialist treatment. One example is in the case of congenital adrenal hyperplasia, in which patients may need steroid replacement therapy during ordinary illness.

    * As an aid in radiotherapy. In order to minimize damage to surrounding tissues, the radiotherapist seeks to keep the irradiated field as small as possible. Marking a number of points on the body with tattoos can aid radiotherapists in adjusting the beam properly.

    * During bosom reconstruction after mastectomy (removal of the bosom for treatment of cancer), or bosom reduction surgery. Tattooing is sometimes used to replace the areola which has been removed during mastectomy, or to fill in areas of pigment loss which may occur during bosom reduction performed with a free unmentionable graft technique.

Source? Here

As I earlier mentioned there is righteous tattoing and unrighteous tattoing

We need to understand the context surrounding the commandment on tattoo in that chapter

Are you adhering to all the Mosaic laws and/or Leviticus chapter 19 in its entirety?

For example do you always rise in the presence of the aged, show respect for the elderly?

Or do you refrain from wearing clothing woven of two kinds of materials? (e.g. a polyester & cotton shirt)

I bet you love your shrimps, lobsters, prawns, cat fish, crabs the list goes on . . .  

What's God's take on those sire?

but then i became more deep in christianity last month and now i feel like getting the lords prayer in accient italics design on my upper back, on the left side. is tattoo a sin cos i feel as tho im mocking God, should i as well be bad and get a random design tattoo then. do you know what i mean? like if lord doesn't like tattoo i'm getting it anyway cos even my mum has it

wahala dey

confusion don already land- everything na back to front.

e36991:

@Davidylan

You make guffaw in %$)&£*^"$* Ah-ha-ha-ha!!!

Of course, you know what I mean concerning moderation

Moderation in what is permissible. Are you permitted to have concubines? Huh?

Dumb. Concubines were permissible under the old law . . . shld we still have them now albeit "in moderation"?
Tattoos were NEVER permitted under the old law.

So what was your analogy about?

e36991:

" . . . tattoos have no known medical value . . . " you asserted

I give you more credit than that, why slipping?

FYI concerning medical value of tattoo

hmm the first two points are basically meaningless and are not mainstream medical practice at all. your third point is basically reconstructive surgery under the guise of tattooing.

Besides all those cases you mentioned are NOT equivalent to the type of permanent tattooing we see today that involves destroying the dermis (which is why they are permanent in the first place).

You still have yet to prove where tattoos have any medical effect to the body.

e36991:

As I earlier mentioned there is righteous tattoing and unrighteous tattoing

Not according to the bible . . . albeit in the language of man - there is also righteous smoking and unrighteous smoking too. You can bend the bible all you want, it will say anything you want it to say as long as your main interest is to justify sin.

e36991:

We need to understand the context surrounding the commandment on tattoo in that chapter

Are you adhering to all the Mosaic laws and/or Leviticus chapter 19 in its entirety?

I dont know if you have me confused with someone else. NOT ONCE did i raise the tattoo issue in leviticus.

e36991:

For example do you always rise in the presence of the aged, show respect for the elderly?

Or do you refrain from wearing clothing woven of two kinds of materials? (e.g. a polyester & cotton shirt)

I bet you love your shrimps, lobsters, prawns, cat fish, crabs the list goes on . . .  

What's God's take on those sire?

You may want to refer this to those who talked about the law concerning tattooing. I have no interest in taking up irrelevant talking points.

JeSoul:

Agreed. In Christ - you're either saved or not. In christian doctrine - Jesus either died or not. In christian living - it is different, things are not always black and white, and frequently vary according to culture.

This is the begining of the slide towards compromise. You say the christian doctrine is straightforward BUT christian living has gray areas? huh?
Christian living has no gray areas, we have simply manufactured them because we desire that the flesh must be fed.

JeSoul:

Most does not mean the minority are doing wrong. And because "most" are like you and I and view wearers of tattoos negatively.

and rightfully so because we all know that tattoos connote something negative. Many decent fortune 500 companies will not hire you if you have a visible tattoo . . . and for good reason too.

why oh why do we think what isnt good enough for man must be ok to God?

davidylan:

This is the begining of the slide towards compromise. You say the christian doctrine is straightforward BUT christian living has gray areas? huh?
Christian living has no gray areas, we have simply manufactured them because we desire that the flesh must be fed.

  I'm not talking about christian doctrine and ideals. Please seperate the two. Christian living HAS gray areas. What may be acceptable in one culture may not be in another. Some cover heads, others don't etc. Tattoos may be taboo out here, but there're other areas where they don't have any negative association with it.
 
  My own grandmother was covered in tattoos all over her arms - it was the culture she grew up in and it was normal. Which is one big reason I have never seen tattoos as a necessarily bad thing. If your arguement is tattoos leave a negative impression and ruin our chance to represent godliness, what about in cultures or circles where it is not considered a bad thing? Have you thought of that?

Why won't you let each christian decide issues like this, that aren't clearly biblically defined to be wrong, what is good for them? I ask again, do you know whether or not God has approved of them, their decision before standing in judgement over them?
 

and rightfully so because we all know that tattoos connote something negative. Many decent fortune 500 companies will not hire you if you have a visible tattoo . . . and for good reason too.

why oh why do we think what isnt good enough for man must be ok to God?

In THIS culture and in our societal circles - yes - for the most part it hold negative associations. But does this make it a sin to get one? No.

Davidylan:


Dumb. Concubines were permissible under the old law . . . shld we still have them now albeit "in moderation"?

Tattoos were NEVER permitted under the old law.

So what was your analogy about?

hmm the first two points are basically meaningless and are not mainstream medical practice at all. your third point is basically reconstructive surgery under the guise of tattooing.

Besides all those cases you mentioned are NOT equivalent to the type of permanent tattooing we see today that involves destroying the dermis (which is why they are permanent in the first place).

You still have yet to prove where tattoos have any medical effect to the body.

Not according to the bible . . . albeit in the language of man - there is also righteous smoking and unrighteous smoking too. You can bend the bible all you want, it will say anything you want it to say as long as your main interest is to justify sin.

I dont know if you have me confused with someone else. NOT ONCE did I raise the tattoo issue in leviticus.

You may want to refer this to those who talked about the law concerning tattooing. I have no interest in taking up irrelevant talking points.

@Davidylan

Dumb? Dumb ke?

Yeee! E gba mi ooo!! See me, see trouble ooo!!! This is rich, thanks a bunch, e se gan 

If God can say He's tattooed Zion on both His palms by deduction we can say there is a righteous tattoo

Personally I dont subscribe to tattooing and dont look down on tattooists

All I know is that all unrighteousness is sin

At the end of the day, if its the Lord's express will for me to tattoo; who am I to drag my feet?

I'll tattoo pronto to His delight,

e36991:

If God can say He's tattooed Zion on both His palms by deduction we can say there is a righteous tattoo

and here we go with misquoting the bible to justify just about anything under heaven.

Is 49:15 Can a woman forget her sucking child, that she should not have compassion on the son of her womb? yea, they may forget, yet will I not forget thee.
16 Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands; thy walls are continually before me.

Lets assume we should read this verses LITERARILY as e36991 has suggested . . . it means Christ has got billions of tattoos on the palm of his hands . . . and we are walls too!

Read this - Prov 3:3 Let not mercy and truth forsake thee: bind them about thy neck; write them upon the table of thine heart:

your heart is also a physical tablet that you can write on?

Davidylan:


and here we go with misquoting the bible to justify just about anything under heaven. 

Is 49:15 Can a woman forget her sucking child, that she should not have compassion on the son of her womb? yea, they may forget, yet will I not forget thee.
16 Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands; thy walls are continually before me.

Lets assume we should read this verses LITERARILY as e36991 has suggested . . . it means Christ has got billions of tattoos on the palm of his hands . . . and we are walls too!

Read this - Prov 3:3 Let not mercy and truth forsake thee: bind them about thy neck; write them upon the table of thine heart:

your heart is also a physical tablet that you can write on?

@Davidylan

What are you like, eh?

This topic hasnt got anything to do with me, so quit grinding your axe with me . . .

The scripture wasnt misquoted but referred to as in making a point about righteous tattooing (i.e. one by God and not man)

As the owner of our bodies, only God can direct one to tattoo or mark one's body,

which is why I advised Whiteroses to seek God whether it's His will for her to have a tattoo or marking

Unlike in the OT that we have references against marking the body, there are none in the NT

Nonetheless a true son or daughter ought to know the will of the Father

And I will say again, for the uptenth time, I dont subscribe to, justify, advocate or lobby for tattooing

so with all due respects back off with your santimonious claptrap and stop making a mountain out of a molehill

We are on the same side - I am not the enemy

e36991:

As the owner of our bodies, only God can direct one to tattoo or mark one's body,

He has not directed anyone to do so in 6000 yrs . . . He isnt going to start now just for whiteroses's sake. Besides it seems NONE OF YOU even read her post. She had plans to go for a tattoo long long ago, she was only looking for religious justification for it.

e36991:

Unlike in the OT that we have references against marking the body, there are none in the NT

We dont need to see it in black and white, its there.

e36991:

so with all due respects back off with your santimonious claptrap and stop making a mountain out of a molehill

At no time did i pay much attention to your posts until you decided to make a mountain out of a molehill (i.e. trying to pick out one statement [irrelevant to the thread] and prove your own oversabi).

We dont have to be on the same side . . . you make your point, i make mine. Story over.

I didnt ever bring up leviticus here . . . wonder why you suddenly thot you could preach that to me all of a sudden.

Davidylan:


He has not directed anyone to do so in 6000 yrs . . . He isnt going to start now just for whiteroses's sake.

Besides it seems NONE OF YOU even read her post. She had plans to go for a tattoo long long ago, she was only looking for religious justification for it.

We dont need to see it in black and white, its there.

At no time did I pay much attention to your posts until you decided to make a mountain out of a molehill (i.e. trying to pick out one statement [irrelevant to the thread] and prove your own oversabi).

We dont have to be on the same side . . . you make your point, I make mine. Story over.

I didnt ever bring up leviticus here . . . wonder why you suddenly thot you could preach that to me all of a sudden.

@Davidylan

I sussed her miles a far which is why before the below quote

I advised her to work on her relationship with the Father

and continue with her walking with the Lord for a revelation etc

Then someone dropped in Leviticus 19 that almost all jumped on the back of etc etc

I had gone through her past posts right across NL to figure out where she is coming from before responding her

This whole thing isnt about religious justification but rather relationship

I'll pause and reserve further comments . . .

e36991:


Trust Whiteroses to open up a can of worms and passing it round

Am not summing up Whiteroses by her past posts across NL but then . . .

its kinda like she's pulling wool over someone's eyes here

I laugh in &*^%$£" Ha-aaahhhhhhhhhhh!!!

and hey check out brethrens and sisters falling for it

falling all over each other trivialising tattoo

At the end of the day as I earlier mentioned, its a personal choice

(i.e. left until the meeting with the Maker to determine whether this particular tattoo was His will)

I believe all that was made was good yet gets abused (e.g. pain, death, tattoo etc)

There are righteous tattoos (i.e. cuttings); evidence of this abounds in the scriptures (i.e. ascribed by God)

and conversely there are unrighteous tattoos

Incidentally tattos nowadays often the case than not is usually a mark of rebellion and all for questionable or wrong reasons

[9] Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, [10] Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.  [11] And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.
-- 1 Corinthians 6:9-11

Homosexuals are deceived if they think they find in Scripture that their lifestyle is acceptable with God, and that they cannot change.  The above list of sins makes it clear who will not be included in the kingdom of heaven.  The good news is that the moment we become believers in Christs' finished work on Calvary our sins are washed away and we are then made righteous in the sight of God, we are free to serve God and not to sin.

[19] What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?  [20] For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's. -- 1 Corinthians 6:19-20

God owns our bodies, we are the temple of the Holy Spirit.  He redeemed us even though He created us, He had to purchase us back from the sin market of the enemy when He shed His blood on the cross.

As a landlord would you be happy to find out that your tenants have covered your building with graffiti and all sort of paint according to their own taste?  In this part of the world folks in the corporate world make efforts to hide their tattoos under long sleeves.  If unbelievers can do this so as not to give a bad impression why would so called believers disfigure what does not belong to them in the name of lifestyle?

2 Cor 3: 2 Ye are our epistle written in our hearts, known and read of all men:

When you see a man with a tattoo . . . what comes first to your mind? A life saved by grace or a life mired in worldly compromise?

what's wrong with an "i love jesus" tramp stamp

As the owner of our bodies, only God can direct one to tattoo or mark one's body

una don lost

and what's with this trying to hook your tattoos on God's neck nah. As if God sent you message.

If you want to get a tattoo, do so without pretending to be unnecessarily sanctimonious and hypocritical about it.

jeez.

first time I'm hearing someone say having a tattoo of the Lord's prayer equates spirituality and holiness. In that case, all those booty callers in sexuality section who shout "Jesus" by the hour (even while they're busy shogging all and sundry) are also sanctified.

so much drivel on NL sef.

It is better to tattoo The Lord's Prayer in your heart

if the isrealites did not tattoo the laws of moses on their bodies then why should you tattoo the lords prayer on your body??the law was definitely more important than the lord's prayer because anyone who follows it wholeheartedly will live[gal.312].the lord's prayer has no such value.

i'll get a random design then, i'm getting star dust on the back of my neck down or my feet and write desire on my wrist b,oobs or waist cos my gran always say whatever you desire go for it and i always remember and i do by it. so yeh will live the bible out. i cant wait 

what exactly concerns NLers with your tattoos?

no be you get your body?

when you're done post the photo in your profile so people can stare at it. No biggie.

Nevertheless the foundation of God stands sure, having this seal, The Lord knows them that are His. And, Let everyone that names the name of Christ depart from iniquity. -- 2 Timothy 2:19 (The Evidence Bible).

"Our churches are full of the nicest, kindest people who have never known the despair of guilt or the breathless wonder of forgiveness." -- P.T. Forsyth

tpiah:

what exactly concerns NLers with your tattoos?

no be you get your body?

when you're done post the photo in your profile so people can stare at it. No biggie.

learn to control your jealousy it doesnt look good on you.

i'm sorry Nairalanders if your not interested in my tattoo i'm just excited/scared/curious. i followed the girl in my block to the studio to have hers and she cried and still looks sore so i just feel like talking about it. i was hoping to meet and share tattoo experience but omi po jokalo in this section, i should have posted it in fashion section. newaiz thanks for the comments

^^^ in addition to that, but you guys na wao everybody has them these days even in eko all my cousins had it i dint know people will oppose it so strongly

^^^^ LOL whiteroses you have made up your mind already, why seek a second opinion?

InesQor:

^^^^ LOL whiteroses you have made up your mind already, why seek a second opinion? 

lool i dunno man