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Poverty_in Britain! Nigerian_single_mother_of_4 by EloSela(f): 5:40pm On Mar 05, 2010 |
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23811988-the-dispossessed-mother-living-in-limbo-with-no-job-no-benefits-and-no-cash.do The Dispossessed: Mother living in limbo with no job, no benefits and no cash 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Poverty_in Britain! Nigerian_single_mother_of_4 by EloSela(f): 5:46pm On Mar 05, 2010 |
I just thought to post the article above to provide information for all pending travellers to the UK who may have desires to stay on after their visas have expired. It isn't easy. 1 Like |
Re: Poverty_in Britain! Nigerian_single_mother_of_4 by Busybody2(f): 12:45am On Mar 06, 2010 |
My take on this is that everyone living in this Country, illegal or legal or otherwise should take time out frequently to brush up on the law lest they got caught out. Social Workers/Social Services are programmed to always say they don't provide accommodation despite the law that binds them to provide accommodation under the National Assistance Act, NASS, Children's Act as her children have assumed the "child in need/child at risk" status, etc hence the reason accommodation suddenly materialised from them after Kidscape applied pressure on them. And unless Social Services which eventually provided accommodation for them placed them in care homes, all they would have done was provide them with funds for rent deposit and family would have had to apply for housing benefit/local housing allowance from Croydon Council. If she had known this and followed this route, she could have continued to use whatever papers she had to continue working and not have become homeless and destitute and her fourth child whom she had here would have been entitled to child benefit and child tax credit depending on the status of the paper she is using to work. With the domestic violence issue, she could have gone to a women's refuge to seek help. If she was an illegal/asylum seeker who had been denied stay, she and her children would have been carted off to a deportation centre to await deportation and would at least be fed and clothed, but the fact was she was allowed to roam the streets, my query is even if she is not entitled to benefit, why didn't she claim asylum seeker's whachumacallit, that one where they give them vouchers to buy food and clothes and house them until her case is decided? Anyway, the European COURT PASSED a law 2 weeks ago after a Somalian and Portuguese mother whose husbands deserted them too, that anyone with a child or children in school has a right to benefits and council housing and public funds regardless of the fact that they are illegal or not, so this law thankfully covers her too. 1 Like |
Re: Poverty_in Britain! Nigerian_single_mother_of_4 by tunnytox(m): 2:46am On Mar 06, 2010 |
There are so many ppl like this in the UK i pray that God grant her luck because judging by this story there's nothing stopping her from going back to Nigeria. Her life or that of her children are not in danger in Nigeria. More and more Nigerian women are being abandoned in the UK by their husbands many of whom her bankers from Nigeria! |
Re: Poverty_in Britain! Nigerian_single_mother_of_4 by oyewolejos(m): 4:33am On Mar 06, 2010 |
EloSela:WORD There are thousands of this stories all over the world.Stay home if u don't want to end up like this. To ladies after Diaspora based guys this is a lesson for you. Not all that glitters is Gold |
Re: Poverty_in Britain! Nigerian_single_mother_of_4 by Busybody2(f): 1:42pm On Mar 06, 2010 |
^^^ You are one of the vocal ones in this section always trumpeting about how easy it is to work the system in the States, the same applies in the UK too, infact, it is easier because UK is a Socialist Country designed to fleece the rich to give by force to the poor regardless of whether they have paid anything into the system. All you have to mention is asylum or your human rights, and bingo, they lay the red carpet for you. . . With this new law that was just recently passed, any parent (illegals especially) with a child in school, including the lady in this story should just head for the benefits office and homeless office and Home office on Monday and demand for their right to these services. The UKBA have decided not to challenge this new ruling though they have expressed their displeasure with it. And as usual, it is UK'S gullible taxpayers who gets shafted and have to stump up for this bill. 1 Like |
Re: Poverty_in Britain! Nigerian_single_mother_of_4 by thameamead(f): 2:14pm On Mar 06, 2010 |
hmmmmm |
Re: Poverty_in Britain! Nigerian_single_mother_of_4 by KennyG6(m): 2:44pm On Mar 06, 2010 |
I wont be fooled by this story at all, quite a number of nigerian women do this to get a big council house rent-free and steady income while the husband is in nigeria handling the business with no responsibility whatsoever. The truth is the husband can travel in from naija spend a few weeks there claiming to be the woman's lover, the social service are non the wiser, trust me i have seen a lot of people who play the system very well using kids and absentee husbands as excuse, eventually the story catches the attention of people just like this and the councils are forced to house them in a 4-bed house and since she is single she need not work and gets paid child benefit for the 4 kids, unemployment benefit and rent free housing, 1 Like |
Re: Poverty_in Britain! Nigerian_single_mother_of_4 by EloSela(f): 3:56pm On Mar 06, 2010 |
I think she should go back to Nigeria. It is not Britain's responsibility to house and feed her or give her a job for that matter. Going by the some of the stories I have read here on NL, Nigeria is up and coming and people can make it there if they are willing to work hard. This lady should go back to her own country and work hard instead of depending on the British tax payer to fund her and her family. 1 Like |
Re: Poverty_in Britain! Nigerian_single_mother_of_4 by Nobody: 11:35am On Mar 08, 2010 |
EloSela: Sure Nigeria is up and coming with more religious violence, ethnic hatred and oils wars amidst all the gross povery caused by years of corruption and pilaging by the so called ruling elite. Oh I forgot to mention , also up and coming in more sophisticated robberies and grotesque cases of outright assasinations and murders. |
Re: Poverty_in Britain! Nigerian_single_mother_of_4 by blueflame1: 11:59am On Mar 08, 2010 |
Now the harsher part of this story for me is that in spite of this woman's condition, she "may" be better than more than 70% of the populace in Nigeria. She said her daughter is top of her class; if its true she has a future and hope in a caring and coordinated society based on merit. In Nigeria I am afraid her children might not even go to school, and if they do, they probably wont get the right education. I have seen so many Nigerian graduates who struggled through thick and thin to graduate with a 2'1 and 1st class and remain jobless and hopeless, there are some with a PHD who are now militants and kidnappers. It is sad, but till we realistically come to terms with how bad conditions are in Nigeria for the common man (doesn't include most of us with leisure internet access), we would be giving the wrong medication to the wrong ailment thereby exacerbating the situation; as has been the case since independence. Every mother would want the best for their child, it should prick our sensibilities that this woman sees her condition as being far better than what would be available to her in Nigeria, though this is arguable, she may not be far from the truth. |
Re: Poverty_in Britain! Nigerian_single_mother_of_4 by Nobody: 12:04pm On Mar 08, 2010 |
i feel so bad 4 nigerians livin in diaspora,especially d ones livin in poverty.at least if dey were in naija dey still have hope dat someday d sun will smile at dem but livin in another man's country in poverty n dey'll treat u with disdain is really very pathetic.livin in uk is not by force if u cant cope come bak 2 naija afterall no matter how bad ur country is,ur country is still ur country n no foreigner can treat u like a piece of shit in ur country.d sad part of it is dat our cursed political leaders travel outside of naija,dey know how uk is,dey even take vacations there yet dey cant take a cue from dem n am sure dey know nigerians r suffering a lot in n out of nigeria yet dey act like all is well.nywayz d blood n sufferings of nigerians is on their miserable lives n dat of their uncontrollable wayward children |
Re: Poverty_in Britain! Nigerian_single_mother_of_4 by proudly9ja(m): 12:06pm On Mar 08, 2010 |
I don't know her status in Nigeria so I cannot advise her to go back. At least at the moment, she gets vouchers for food and all. Do you think if she was in Nigeria with no work she will still be able to send her children to school? From the story, Im sure we can read that she was doing well when she was working and her situation is the way it is because she can't work. Il advise she waits till July when the results of her applications out and I pray its good news. After that, tings will work out well. For those advising her to go back to Nigeria, let's weigh the options. She only has a two year computer science degree (I'm assuming its a diploma), she's 39 and has four kids with a mom. Who will employ her in Nigeria with that degree and at that age? Even if she gets employed, we know she can't get paid enough money to take care of her children. How will they survive (feeding, school, accommodation)? 1 Like |
Re: Poverty_in Britain! Nigerian_single_mother_of_4 by proudly9ja(m): 12:10pm On Mar 08, 2010 |
kulyie: don't agree with the bolded part. Is treating someone with disdain same as providing free accommodation for her and her family? or even accepting her children in 'quality' schools , four children for that matter? Abeg if that is disdain, no wonder more Nigerians would rather come here cos they would rather be treated with that kind of disdain than stay back home! |
Re: Poverty_in Britain! Nigerian_single_mother_of_4 by Nobody: 12:13pm On Mar 08, 2010 |
kulyie: Uncontrollable wayward children, lol. Hmm, well I can tell you that there are also uncontrollable wayward children everywhere and it is a sign of the times we live in. I travel to Nigeria and was there last year and can tell you that there is not much difference in how children behave. And by the way not all Nigerians live pathetic lives here and I dare to say No Nigerian lives a pathetic live here because at the barest minimum there is hope at the end of the tunnel, there are the basics of live and at some point welfare and human rights groups will interfere to assist those in such a condition. |
Re: Poverty_in Britain! Nigerian_single_mother_of_4 by ayettymama(f): 12:16pm On Mar 08, 2010 |
kmt then kmt again this is just embarrasing! kmt why doesnt she go to nigeria and sit in the local givt office demanding for them to give her flat?? God help you people i dont decide to work for immigration! |
Re: Poverty_in Britain! Nigerian_single_mother_of_4 by bodsibobo(m): 12:17pm On Mar 08, 2010 |
Sure Nigeria is up and coming with more religious violence, ethnic hatred and oils wars amidst all the gross povery caused by years of corruption and pilaging by the so called ruling elite. @frosbel Keep on consoling yourself. So you really think that an educated Nigerian without papers is better off in the UK than Naija. O.K. o, by the time he or she has wasted away their productive lives; all their mates would have moved on in Naija becoming MD's and Entrepreneurs while they are neck deep in debts, debts and more debts, except of course those that are involved in one illegality or the other. You guys better wake up, I can count over 20 guys that I know very well that have re-relocated back to Naija from USA / UK / etc and they themselves know they are better off here in Naija than when they were wasting away in the UK / USA. By the way, have you been to Naija (Lagos) recently? |
Re: Poverty_in Britain! Nigerian_single_mother_of_4 by Ajike: 12:17pm On Mar 08, 2010 |
i will never advise her to come back to Nigeria. imagine her in Nigeria with 4 kids and in this kind of situations, how many families or friends will come out to give an helping hand not to talk of govt (rule out) with God all things are possible. I pray the outcome of her papers will favour her in Jesus name. Busy_body can pls help this lady in anyway she can since she nows more of the diff benefits available to illegal/legal immigrant like her. Pls rule Nigeria out, is not a place to raise a decent children if you're not averagely or super rich. |
Re: Poverty_in Britain! Nigerian_single_mother_of_4 by robby1(m): 12:20pm On Mar 08, 2010 |
this almost sounds like someone i know, are there any pictures? |
Re: Poverty_in Britain! Nigerian_single_mother_of_4 by mex004(m): 12:25pm On Mar 08, 2010 |
na by force 2 live 4 Britain |
Re: Poverty_in Britain! Nigerian_single_mother_of_4 by pafun(m): 12:33pm On Mar 08, 2010 |
When I posted something like this few weeks ago I was nearly killed You people never see anything. Sooner or later you will always OVERSTAY your welcome in the house of even the best of friends , talk less of congenital bigots. |
Re: Poverty_in Britain! Nigerian_single_mother_of_4 by Ajike: 12:37pm On Mar 08, 2010 |
kulyie, feel so bad 4 nigerians livin in diaspora,especially d ones livin in poverty.at least if dey were in naija dey still have hope dat someday d sun will smile at dem but livin in another man's country in poverty n dey'll treat u with disdain is really very pathetic.livin in uk is not by force if u cant cope come bak 2 naija afterall no matter how bad your country is,your country is still your country n no foreigner can treat u like a piece of poo in your country.d sad part of it is dat our cursed political leaders travel outside of naija,dey know how uk is,dey even take vacations there yet dey cant take a cue from dem n am sure dey know nigerians r suffering a lot in n out of nigeria yet dey act like all is well.nywayz d blood n sufferings of nigerians is on their miserable lives n dat of their uncontrollable wayward children Which sun pls? can u imagine all the benefits available to both their children, the ones born there and even the one brought over there. pls can u pinpoint just one benefit available to us here in nigeria. If you're in situation like this in nigeria, u're OYO-on your own life! |
Re: Poverty_in Britain! Nigerian_single_mother_of_4 by ayettymama(f): 12:38pm On Mar 08, 2010 |
dont mind them this article was just to help her she s lying!!! mothers get houses no sweat! she must have misused the benefits already given to her- useless monkey!! where are humans rights in nigeria?? why can she get a job and rent a room like her illegal counterparts are doin?? kmt!! |
Re: Poverty_in Britain! Nigerian_single_mother_of_4 by mex004(m): 12:39pm On Mar 08, 2010 |
lol |
Re: Poverty_in Britain! Nigerian_single_mother_of_4 by axeman85(m): 12:42pm On Mar 08, 2010 |
This is indeed a sad story but majority of woman who come to the uk from african countries including nigeria get pregnant quick and start having children as they see it as a way of getting rich quick via, council house, housing benefits, child tax credits, child benefits, income support amongst all other things. the truth is that majority of these people including male and female have nothing in nigeria to go back to because its too late for them, no family, no accomodation, no proper work experience, basically they have nothing . so therefore goiing back home is not an option for them at all. on a daily basis when i have the opportunity to speak to some nigerians both old and young and they start telling me their storyy if how they cant afford £1 for bus fare not to talk of servicing loans and credit cards they took out in the boominf fnancial years in the uk, i just pity them so much because clearly i can see they cant afford a kobo and such is the case of this woman. amongst many others. back in the years i had a friend whi had britico stay and he met this hardworking naija hairdresser girl in london but immediately the girl saw this guy had a good job, car and not lazy, she decided to get pregnant just after the first intercourse with my then friend, unfortuantely the girls flat mate had a fight with her and told my friend the girls plan, which saved the girl from ruining her future then becos my friend just want chop and clean mouth and if she had gone ahead with her plan she also will have been labelled a single mother, with no man, pushing push chair in the city if london, and hoping to get visa and benefits. really big sham very very. all those aspiring to coem to the uk in the search for better life the easy way, there is nothing like that at all here. uk is just a place to come, study get well educated, good eork experince and possibly go back home or to another better country. because things arent getting better at all. because if na naija this woman dey now she for still dey see people dey help am with food, clothes and small chanege on a daily basis and at least dey see small side business do even if na to dey sell pure water, boli or dey teach fro primary or secondary school. God dey sha. |
Re: Poverty_in Britain! Nigerian_single_mother_of_4 by Nobody: 12:47pm On Mar 08, 2010 |
bodsibobo: Of course I am a Lagos boy by the way having lived in Apapa, Ikoyi and Festac, and by the way I travel to Nigeria and was in Lagos last year Easter and will be coming again this year. Lagos looks fine but na fine we go chop. Should I congratulate you that Lagos is so beautiful when I know first hand that people are losing their jobs left right and centre, graduates cannot get jobs, only the well connected and corrupt are making it as a general rule ? Now when you say relocate to Nigeria, is that not the ambition of many of us professionals over here ? With our years of experience and expertise in various fields we can truly make a difference. But the problem is that there is no security, no water, no light, religious madness, greedy politicians etc. You will say why not do business and I will say that is a good thought but as a christian I am not ready to grease the hands of thieves and corrupt people just to make a headway in life. I have my godly ethics. But we have to think about our children first. I have a good Job, I am not sinking in debt ( thank you very much ) and I am a kind of contented fellow. So I am not so ambitious as to want to be a millionaire. As far as my kids eat well, go to a good school and I can send money back home to take care of things, no problem for me. |
Re: Poverty_in Britain! Nigerian_single_mother_of_4 by adconline(m): 12:54pm On Mar 08, 2010 |
I think she should go back to Nigeria. It is not Britain's responsibility to house and feed her or give her a job for that matter. Going by the some of the stories I have read here on NL, Nigeria is up and coming and people can make it there if they are willing to work hard. This lady should go back to her own country and work hard instead of depending on the British tax payer to fund her and her family It's either you are delusional or insular |
Re: Poverty_in Britain! Nigerian_single_mother_of_4 by jumie(f): 12:54pm On Mar 08, 2010 |
I think all she needs is a job! If she can be allowed to work and stay over there, then things will get better. She is willing to work but has been denied that chance. Also, considering the fact that the children are doing well in school. Who knows, if they continue they could always apply for and get a scholarship to further their studies. In Nigeria, the possibility of her living a decent life is slim. Her kids may probably not be able to go to school (if they do, maybe the public schools) which are nothing compared to public schools abroad. They may even end up becoming 'agberos' or 'area-boys/girls'. She should be allowed to do something to earn a living. |
Re: Poverty_in Britain! Nigerian_single_mother_of_4 by doggyall: 12:56pm On Mar 08, 2010 |
land of hope is better than land of hopeless! |
Re: Poverty_in Britain! Nigerian_single_mother_of_4 by Wrex(m): 12:59pm On Mar 08, 2010 |
I don't get it.Is it a must to live in Britain? |
Re: Poverty_in Britain! Nigerian_single_mother_of_4 by EloSela(f): 1:02pm On Mar 08, 2010 |
proudly9ja: Her story is sad. But it isn't Britain's responsibilty to look after her, her four children and her ageing mother. And why she be given a job when there are citizens who would also like to work? Nigeria needs to start taking responsibilty of its own. |
Re: Poverty_in Britain! Nigerian_single_mother_of_4 by Nobody: 1:04pm On Mar 08, 2010 |
EloSela: Agree with you in theory, but in practice Nigeria taking care of its own at this time in our history is a rather tall order. |
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