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Muhammad Ibn Ali Ibn Muhammad Al-taa'i Al-andalusi by ShaheedBinAliyu(m): 2:43pm On Oct 16, 2017 |
That is ibn hajar real name . . and he is a sufi . .infact an extreme sufi . .. . this g0es to all those hating on everything they hear fr0m jabata because they hate him. mind you, jabata only speaks with kn0wledge and kitab wa sunnah . . . .una d0n shut up 0n abu hanifa. . n0w visit this link https://islamqa.info/en/7691 and she scholars fatwa on ibn hajar . .then you will kn0w he is a sufi, died a sufi, he is a kafir. . . And whatever u hear fr0m jabata, n0 matter h0w much you hate him, just verify whatever he said before accusinq and slandering him. . . .MIND YOU, WHOEVER CALLS A KAFIR A MUSLIM IS A KAFIR, AND WHOEVER CALLS A MUSLIM A KAFIR IS A KAFIR . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .0. . .to you people claiming to be an ahlu sunnah, and you call all dead and living sufi of nigeria a muslim, u a kafir .. .and t0 you that calls jabata a kafir, u a kafir because u making takfir of a muslim . . .have a good day |
Re: Muhammad Ibn Ali Ibn Muhammad Al-taa'i Al-andalusi by AlBaqir(m): 3:20pm On Oct 16, 2017 |
ShaheedBinAliyu: # Ibn Hajar? I think you meant IBN ARABI. You just copy rubbish and post. # And since when islamqa.com become your favourite ![]() |
Re: Muhammad Ibn Ali Ibn Muhammad Al-taa'i Al-andalusi by MrOlai: 6:34pm On Oct 16, 2017 |
ShaheedBinAliyu: Mr Jabata! Why do you always call every Muslim a kafir? Any Muslim that doesn't share the same ideology with Jabata automatically becomes a kafir according to you! Do you know the implication of calling a Muslim a kafir at all? You see yourself and Jabata as being better than others! What gave you the assurance? Those Muslims you're calling kufar might be far better than you and Jabata in the sight of Allah(SWT)! This is the statement of Allah(SWT) from the Qur'an: فَلَا تُزَكُّوا أَنفُسَكُمْ هُوَ أَعْلَمُ بِمَنِ اتَّقَىٰ "...do not claim piety for yourselves. He knows best who is really Godfearing pious." (Q53:32) You always claim other Muslims are kufar yet you went to Romance section asking people how you can send away 4 different ladies that have become "Marios" on your neck! Or who wrote this? ShaheedBinAliyu:https://www.nairaland.com/newpost?topic=2076175 Committing zina in Islam is a grievous sin before Allah(SWT)! Some of those Muslims you're calling kufar might not have done half of what you did with those 4 girls! The earlier you repent to Allah(SWT) the better for you! 1 Like |
Re: Muhammad Ibn Ali Ibn Muhammad Al-taa'i Al-andalusi by Rilwayne001: 6:47pm On Oct 16, 2017 |
^^ ![]() ![]() Dude has been exposed. Most of these religious fanatics are worse than heathens. 3 Likes |
Re: Muhammad Ibn Ali Ibn Muhammad Al-taa'i Al-andalusi by MrOlai: 6:59pm On Oct 16, 2017 |
Rilwayne001: Busted! ![]() |
Re: Muhammad Ibn Ali Ibn Muhammad Al-taa'i Al-andalusi by AlBaqir(m): 7:20pm On Oct 16, 2017 |
MrOlai: You too na wetin you go do for ROMANCE corner? Obviously you are also a customer there. To Alfa Saeedi Jabata Plumber, why going to Romance corner? Is Kitab wa Sunnah in Jabata interpretation not enough? |
Re: Muhammad Ibn Ali Ibn Muhammad Al-taa'i Al-andalusi by Empiree: 7:22pm On Oct 16, 2017 |
Mr. plumber busted ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() He will come here to speak trash to try and cover up ![]() Anyways, how you come dig that up mrolai, you dey snitch on him or what? You get time faah |
Re: Muhammad Ibn Ali Ibn Muhammad Al-taa'i Al-andalusi by MrOlai: 7:22pm On Oct 16, 2017 |
AlBaqir: Lol |
Re: Muhammad Ibn Ali Ibn Muhammad Al-taa'i Al-andalusi by MrOlai: 7:33pm On Oct 16, 2017 |
AlBaqir: To your question, I purposely follow Jabata boy reach there to see whether him go make takfir on people there or not. I was shocked! Instead of making takfir on people on Romance section, he was there discussing how 4 ashewo girls suffocated him! ![]() And he would be here claiming salafy! ![]() Omo ale! ![]() 4 Likes |
Re: Muhammad Ibn Ali Ibn Muhammad Al-taa'i Al-andalusi by Empiree: 7:38pm On Oct 16, 2017 |
MrOlai:Oops, you are a snitch ![]() |
Re: Muhammad Ibn Ali Ibn Muhammad Al-taa'i Al-andalusi by MrOlai: 7:42pm On Oct 16, 2017 |
Empiree: I've actually watched him closely over time. The way he makes takfir on people is terrible! Even on the dead! |
Re: Muhammad Ibn Ali Ibn Muhammad Al-taa'i Al-andalusi by shahydbinaliyu(m): 7:42pm On Oct 16, 2017 |
AlBaqir:Anybody that speaks the truth is my scholar. ibn hajar, ibn arabi . . .no be samething? tshewp |
Re: Muhammad Ibn Ali Ibn Muhammad Al-taa'i Al-andalusi by Empiree: 7:44pm On Oct 16, 2017 |
MrOlai:i know right. ikun nde dedere Dedere nde ikun Awodi oke ko mo pe ara ile nwo oun ![]() I hope my Yoruba is correct ![]() |
Re: Muhammad Ibn Ali Ibn Muhammad Al-taa'i Al-andalusi by shahydbinaliyu(m): 7:51pm On Oct 16, 2017 |
MrOlai . .what i expect you to do is to prove that ibn hajar aint a kafir. 2. which everybody does jabata call kafir? 3. so many scholars made takfir of ibn hajar n0t just jabata . .even if its only jabtata, if he has dalil . .am ok with it. . . AND WHAT EXACTLY ARE YOU TRYING TO SAY. .1. THAT THERE IS NO KAFIR? 2. THAT CALLING PEOPLE KAFIR IS WRONG? or what exactly . . .explAIN YOURXELF#laugain yourself . . . . . . |
Re: Muhammad Ibn Ali Ibn Muhammad Al-taa'i Al-andalusi by shahydbinaliyu(m): 7:59pm On Oct 16, 2017 |
MrOlai . .what i expect you to do is to prove that ibn hajar aint a kafir. 2. which everybody does jabata call kafir? 3. so many scholars made takfir of ibn hajar n0t just jabata . .even if its only jabtata, if he has dalil . .am ok with it. . . AND WHAT EXACTLY ARE YOU TRYING TO SAY. .1. THAT THERE IS NO KAFIR? 2. THAT CALLING PEOPLE KAFIR IS WRONG? or what exactly . . .explAIN YOURXELF#laugain yourself . . . . . . YOU HAD TO GO AND FIND MY POST#LAUGHING . . MIND U ITS A SIN . . AND THAT WAS THEN . . AM MARRIED NOW . |
Re: Muhammad Ibn Ali Ibn Muhammad Al-taa'i Al-andalusi by MrOlai: 8:00pm On Oct 16, 2017 |
shahydbinaliyu: Explain first what you were doing with 4 ashewo girls to the extent that the ashewo girls suffocated you! |
Re: Muhammad Ibn Ali Ibn Muhammad Al-taa'i Al-andalusi by AlBaqir(m): 8:01pm On Oct 16, 2017 |
shahydbinaliyu: # The point remains that you were taking about IBN ARABI but ignorantly or mistakenly wrote IBN HAJAR. # Ibn Hajar was not a Sufi. He was Ash'ariyyah. And your best .modern day scholar sheik al-Albani regards him as Amir al-Mu'mineen in ilm al-Hadith (Hadith sciences). # No doubt, Ibn Arabi was extreme in his Sufism, and he uttered lots of weird statements. However, he remained among the best Islamic philosophers and Sufi till date. # In extremism, Sheik Ibn Taymiyyah was also a leading extremist in his weird beliefs to the fact that the consensus of Ahlu Sunnah scholars during his time declared him an APOSTATE. He was confined to prison severally and his heretic books were confiscated. # BOTTOM LINE: A Sufi will surely defend Ibn Arabi and try to explain lots of his statement and work just like an average Salafi will do same for Ibn Taymiyyah. 3 Likes |
Re: Muhammad Ibn Ali Ibn Muhammad Al-taa'i Al-andalusi by shahydbinaliyu(m): 8:04pm On Oct 16, 2017 |
AlBaqir:That was tHEN . . .And a muslim that sins and dies sining . .pr.. CAN NEVER EVER BE SAID THAT HE/SHE WILL ENTER HELL COZ THE CASE IS TATA MATIA. . .UNLIKE KUFRU. . STRAIGHT TO HELL NI. . .AM N0T SAYING WHAT I DID WAS GOOD. .ITS ACTUALLY BAD AND EMBARASSING. . .ALHAMDULILAH AM MARRIED NOW. . and i have repent. . . . . .qpGY 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Muhammad Ibn Ali Ibn Muhammad Al-taa'i Al-andalusi by AlBaqir(m): 8:04pm On Oct 16, 2017 |
shahydbinaliyu: # Accept correction and stop being a rogue. This is a public forum man. Again it is not Ibn Hajar, but IBN ARABI. 3 Likes |
Re: Muhammad Ibn Ali Ibn Muhammad Al-taa'i Al-andalusi by shahydbinaliyu(m): 8:07pm On Oct 16, 2017 |
MrOlai:Laughing . . r0mance section = sin section . . a salaf can also be a sinner. . although its n0t g0od to be a sinner. . . .and am n0t OMO ALE #laughing ko |
Re: Muhammad Ibn Ali Ibn Muhammad Al-taa'i Al-andalusi by MrOlai: 8:11pm On Oct 16, 2017 |
Empiree: I understand your language clearly! I know where you're going! I understand what you mean by a snitch! Your own case is like that of two-edged sword! Oloju meji bi obe! You would be here and there! That's one of the attributes of munafiqun! I'm sure everybody in this section knows you for that! Don't hide under any pretence to attack me! Bring it on! I'll give it to you squarely! I promise you! |
Re: Muhammad Ibn Ali Ibn Muhammad Al-taa'i Al-andalusi by shahydbinaliyu(m): 8:11pm On Oct 16, 2017 |
AlBaqir:THANKS FOR THE CORRECTION O JARE..IBN HAJAR IS A KAFIR. ASHARIYAH= KAFIR. HE DIED AN ASHAIRA |
Re: Muhammad Ibn Ali Ibn Muhammad Al-taa'i Al-andalusi by shahydbinaliyu(m): 8:15pm On Oct 16, 2017 |
ALBAQIR . .defend ur claim about tamiyah being an apostate and his books being c0nfiscated . .DO NOT COPY AND PASTE . .just sum it up. |
Re: Muhammad Ibn Ali Ibn Muhammad Al-taa'i Al-andalusi by MrOlai: 8:20pm On Oct 16, 2017 |
shahydbinaliyu: If you've actually repented, then, Alhamdulillah for your life! You should be thankful to Allah(SWT) for saving your life! You shouldn't be the one that would be calling other Muslims kufar when you know quite alright that it's by Allah's mercy that you yourself came out of your old evil ways! If you observe anything wrong with other Muslims, you should pray and do dawah for them in accordance with the Sunnah of the Prophet(SAW)! |
Re: Muhammad Ibn Ali Ibn Muhammad Al-taa'i Al-andalusi by AlBaqir(m): 8:20pm On Oct 16, 2017 |
shahydbinaliyu: That's Jabata's understanding. And few Sunni scholars (and Jabata too) declared Imam Abu Hanifah and Imam an-Nawafi too as KUFFAR. Although Jabata claimed he has repented and retracted on Imam Nawawi once he found out that he (Imam Nawawi) repented on his "KUFR". Likewise, several Sunni Scholars too declared followers of Ahmad Ibn Hanbal as KUFFAR (with the exception of IBN Hanbal). Good example is the case of Ibn Taymiyyah. So, many KUFR fatwa ![]() |
Re: Muhammad Ibn Ali Ibn Muhammad Al-taa'i Al-andalusi by shahydbinaliyu(m): 8:20pm On Oct 16, 2017 |
MrOlai . . you are yet to defend ibn arabi and your accusations on jabata o |
Re: Muhammad Ibn Ali Ibn Muhammad Al-taa'i Al-andalusi by shahydbinaliyu(m): 8:24pm On Oct 16, 2017 |
MrOlai:OLODO NI E. SIN IS DIFFERENT FROM KUFRU . . A SINNER IS A MUSLIM AND A KAFIR IS A N0N MUSLIM. . .why shouldnt i be the one to be calling kafir a kafir? #laughing |
Re: Muhammad Ibn Ali Ibn Muhammad Al-taa'i Al-andalusi by AlBaqir(m): 8:25pm On Oct 16, 2017 |
shahydbinaliyu: # What else do you need? I have just given you the summary. Its left for you to ask your masters or do the research. * You don't expect me to be wasting my resources on you while you remain an ardent defiant. I have shown you several things yet you deny. |
Re: Muhammad Ibn Ali Ibn Muhammad Al-taa'i Al-andalusi by shahydbinaliyu(m): 8:32pm On Oct 16, 2017 |
AlBaqir:ABU HANIFA IS A KAFIR. CHECK MY THREAD ON IT. OR LISTEN TO JABATA LECTURES ON IT OR READ SHEIK MUQBIL TIRA ON HIM. . . . I DONT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IMAM ANBAL OR IBN ANBAL. .FOR TAYMIYAH TO MAKE TAKFIR OF THEM, which proof did he bring as evidence to make takfir of him? ERI NI EMI WA AFTER . .What's the eri that sheik bring to make takFIR OF THEM. . . YA. .IMAM NAWAWI DON REPENT . .Don't just accUSE ..explain why the accusation and its dalil ..then we wil kn0w h0w far |
Re: Muhammad Ibn Ali Ibn Muhammad Al-taa'i Al-andalusi by shahydbinaliyu(m): 8:38pm On Oct 16, 2017 |
AlBaqir:U avnt proven urself right about the apostacy of ibn taymiyah, u avnt tel us his books tHAT were confiscated.. and that ahlusunnah concesus on him . . grta |
Re: Muhammad Ibn Ali Ibn Muhammad Al-taa'i Al-andalusi by Empiree: 8:40pm On Oct 16, 2017 |
MrOlai:LOL, attacked you?. Is that what you think?. I wasn't even thinking about that and you said you understood my yoruba post?. My post was referring to the guy ![]() Anyways, I am used to being called what you called me. But Allah knows my niyah. I simply can't adhere to any specific group or ideology. If that's what you called munafiq, thats your palava |
Re: Muhammad Ibn Ali Ibn Muhammad Al-taa'i Al-andalusi by Empiree: 8:48pm On Oct 16, 2017 |
shahydbinaliyu:when was ur comment made in that section?. From ur statement here shows it might be a while back? |
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