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Re: Fresh Clashes In Central Nigeria Kill 11 -radio by Fhemmmy: 3:19pm On Mar 17, 2010
Kratos007:

religious or tribal. either way the violence has got to stop.

Let us pray that the govt will open their eyes and do something fast
Re: Fresh Clashes In Central Nigeria Kill 11 -radio by Emperoh(m): 3:29pm On Mar 17, 2010
I just hope this is not Political. . . every indication says its religious. . . cos if its Political, it is a pre-cursor to 2011
I am just scared at the outcome. . . . just scared!!
Re: Fresh Clashes In Central Nigeria Kill 11 -radio by morpheus24: 3:36pm On Mar 17, 2010
truly:

The security forces CANNOT control a full blown crisis in Nigeria
The Police has less than 500,000 men
[b]We should be careful the way we call for war[/b]The entity is not perfect
But it will be foolish to go to war and thereafter settle for a worse arrangement
Wars arise out of miscalculation
A party is cocksure about what the others would do - concede or lose
Otherwise people will discuss first rather than going to war

Self policing does not work if the other party is battle - hardened
You cannot compare the battle readiness of a city person, no matter who many war films he has watched, to a nomad's


Stop defending your fulani muslim brothers by trying to analyze the readiness of village people. All they need is someone who will co-ordinate their young and able bodied men into a vigilante group, arm and train them to defend themselves from these attacks.

I really don't care much for religions per say but concerned about the preservation of innocent life so I bet you when these attackers get it through their skulls that the individuals they are attacking are not helpless defenseless women and children they will second guess their cowardly strategies no matter how hardened you claim theare are battle ready.

No body likes casualties, not even the most armed military on the face of the planet.
Re: Fresh Clashes In Central Nigeria Kill 11 -radio by morpheus24: 3:38pm On Mar 17, 2010
Fhemmmy:

Let us pray that the govt will open their eyes and do something fast
@Fhemmy

You are pray pray. We are going to pray ourselve to heaven eh!
Re: Fresh Clashes In Central Nigeria Kill 11 -radio by Feraz(m): 3:40pm On Mar 17, 2010
Thank you@ know all. That's what i've been saying. Lack of education plays a major role in these conflicts.
Re: Fresh Clashes In Central Nigeria Kill 11 -radio by swaga007: 3:43pm On Mar 17, 2010
u neva see anyting, come 2011 election more of dis is to b expectd. may God help us!
Re: Fresh Clashes In Central Nigeria Kill 11 -radio by Feraz(m): 3:47pm On Mar 17, 2010
Fhemmmy:

Let us pray that the govt will open their eyes and do something fast
how many times have d govt had the opportunities to do that but they chose to turn deaf ears
Re: Fresh Clashes In Central Nigeria Kill 11 -radio by kettykings: 3:56pm On Mar 17, 2010
@kcreal then what will solve the problem
Re: Fresh Clashes In Central Nigeria Kill 11 -radio by 68816419: 3:56pm On Mar 17, 2010
i dont know y ibo people always talk about divition even if the topic is " Amokwu Affa and Umuoka communal war" Udi Local Government Area of Enugu State .? cry
Re: Fresh Clashes In Central Nigeria Kill 11 -radio by kettykings: 4:01pm On Mar 17, 2010
@poster then what solution are u advocating apart from a break up
Re: Fresh Clashes In Central Nigeria Kill 11 -radio by yahyus(m): 4:07pm On Mar 17, 2010
Majority of the Nairalanders crying 4 division, division and division wouldn't accept Jos as part of them when the country is divided. Even Jos people know that the southerners wont go with them, i'm very sure they will recall how many Jos indigenes were slaughtered in the OPC massacre. It may also interest you 2 know that the cabal have interest in Nigeria, they dont want it divided bcoz what they are taping from Nigeria wont be gotten when the country is divided.
Re: Fresh Clashes In Central Nigeria Kill 11 -radio by modash(m): 4:09pm On Mar 17, 2010
nawao!!!!
these ppl in jos are jst killin each oda,
i relli wonder wat cud be causin all de
anger nd hatred 2wards each oda, i mean
these are ppl dat hav bein living 2geda in peace
for soo many yrs. den all of a sudden this
i tink de issues are nut reli religious in nature
seems more like a tussle for power in de city
btw de beroms nd de hausa's
sha hope de politicians nd de security forces
can bring jos back to the way it use to be
Re: Fresh Clashes In Central Nigeria Kill 11 -radio by soyad: 4:20pm On Mar 17, 2010
we dont need America or Gadafi before we know that the break up of Nigeria is just a matter of time . We should stop deceiving our self , we are different people and if after 50 years we dnt love each other we should just split peacefully . Let people live among their kind instead of forcing humans to cohabit at all cost with animal who can slaughter kids simple because somebody tampered with his cow . Hope is lost , as for me  ODUDUWA for ever .
Re: Fresh Clashes In Central Nigeria Kill 11 -radio by BlackRevo: 4:42pm On Mar 17, 2010
Not again sad
Re: Fresh Clashes In Central Nigeria Kill 11 -radio by Nobody: 4:49pm On Mar 17, 2010
Removing religion out of this is ridiculous.

Why the Jos issue is prominent is because Christians in the North have refused to the the 'turn the other cheek'. These conflicts did not start in January now. This issue is getting a world audience because there have been retailiations, if it were before where Christians 'turn the other cheek' the issue would have been "one of those occassional outbursts" that was doused not by the government but the siddon look, forgiving spirits of christians.
Re: Fresh Clashes In Central Nigeria Kill 11 -radio by Nobody: 4:51pm On Mar 17, 2010
yahyus:

Majority of the Nairalanders crying 4 division, division and division wouldn't accept Jos as part of them when the country is divided. Even Jos people know that the southerners wont go with them, i'm very sure they will recall how many Jos indigenes were slaughtered in the OPC massacre. It may also interest you 2 know that the cabal have interest in Nigeria, they dont want it divided bcoz what they are taping from Nigeria wont be gotten when the country is divided.

We in the south could care less at this point. If those in jos wish to kill themselves at least let them do so in their own country. We'd like to move on pls.
Re: Fresh Clashes In Central Nigeria Kill 11 -radio by BlackRevo: 4:52pm On Mar 17, 2010
stillwater:

Removing religion out of this is ridiculous.

Why the Jos issue is prominent is because Christians in the North have refused to the the 'turn the other cheek'. These conflicts did not start in January now. This issue is getting a world audience because there have been retailiations, if it were before where Christians 'turn the other cheek' the issue would have been "one of those occassional outbursts" that was doused not by the government but the siddon look, forgiving spirits of christians.

What is the root cause of this crisis?
Re: Fresh Clashes In Central Nigeria Kill 11 -radio by Fhemmmy: 4:53pm On Mar 17, 2010
davidylan:

We in the south could care less at this point. If those in jos wish to kill themselves at least let them do so in their own country. We'd like to move on pls.

I am sure that those killing themselves are not just from the North, some would have been from the South as well
Re: Fresh Clashes In Central Nigeria Kill 11 -radio by ibabalol: 4:54pm On Mar 17, 2010
Suya don expensive too much and people too
plenty for naija, make dem kill dem self take do suya
CHIKENA! grin grin grin
Re: Fresh Clashes In Central Nigeria Kill 11 -radio by Fhemmmy: 4:58pm On Mar 17, 2010
ibabalol:

Suya don expensive too much and people too
plenty for naija, make dem kill dem self take do suya
CHIKENA! grin grin grin

How could someone utter such statement
Re: Fresh Clashes In Central Nigeria Kill 11 -radio by snowdrops(m): 5:03pm On Mar 17, 2010
kettykings:

@poster then what solution are u advocating apart from a break up
Can you inform me where i advocated breakup from the first post?
Re: Fresh Clashes In Central Nigeria Kill 11 -radio by morpheus24: 5:15pm On Mar 17, 2010
Again

if the government cannot protect its citizenry it is a human right to defend your self. I advocate for groups of young men to be trained and armed.

of course, unfortunately the issue of money comes up when trying to do this.

i wonder if gaddafi will loan me money to take up this guerilla warfare. Hmmm,
Re: Fresh Clashes In Central Nigeria Kill 11 -radio by truly: 5:17pm On Mar 17, 2010
@morpheus24
Stop defending your fulani muslim brothers by trying to analyze the readiness of village people. All they need is someone who will co-ordinate their young and able bodied men into a vigilante group, arm and train them to defend themselves from these attacks.

I really don't care much for religions per say but concerned about the preservation of innocent life so I bet you when these attackers get it through their skulls that the individuals they are attacking are not helpless defenseless women and children they will second guess their cowardly strategies no  matter how hardened you claim theare are battle ready.

No body likes casualties, not even the most armed military on the face of the planet.


The problem I have with this type of response is that it imputes into my statement what I did not say
I did not say Fulani muslims are not responsible
If I did, please be kind enough to point it out
I said we should be careful about calls for war or arming everybody
Anybody could have made that suggestion - Muslim, christian, Clinton, Obama
Indeed Britons who don't allow people to carry guns will say the same; Americans will say people should carry guns

Suppose these mobile invaders prevail in a war of attrition - what next
At least the pickpockets etc will still have their guns
we would not have solved the initial problem, we would have created a new one
My opinion. Were I in the US, I would say the same
So it has nothing to do with religion

Afterall, we did not arm the Ifes and Modakekes when they were doing their fighting
As regards the issue of "the attackers getting it through their skull"
This presupposes that the attackers are always Fulanis
I can also imagine that the Biroms would have initiated an attack at one time or the other
Re: Fresh Clashes In Central Nigeria Kill 11 -radio by babsmii(m): 5:18pm On Mar 17, 2010
someone once said the world would be a better place if these muslims are sent to the antartica without a coat, im beginning to reason that line too, no offense intended!
Re: Fresh Clashes In Central Nigeria Kill 11 -radio by truly: 5:21pm On Mar 17, 2010
@tpia
tongue cutting and body mutilation are usually a sign of secret cults and juju involvement.

I think other factors are at work here, such as assasins being brought in from outside. Like I pointed out, such things are more common in central Africa.



as per suicide bombing, that's another topic.



There is juju in Nigeria, all over the country, in all regions
Don't let us run away from the reality of our life
Re: Fresh Clashes In Central Nigeria Kill 11 -radio by Onlytruth(m): 5:33pm On Mar 17, 2010
truly:

@tpia
tongue cutting and body mutilation are usually a sign of secret cults and juju involvement.

I think other factors are at work here, such as assasins being brought in from outside. Like I pointed out, such things are more common in central Africa.



as per suicide bombing, that's another topic.



There is juju in Nigeria, all over the country, in all regions
Don't let us run away from the reality of our life


This is NOT Juju.

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Nigeria village in machete attack
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At least 10 people have been killed in an attack on a mainly Christian village near the violence-hit Nigerian city of Jos, officials say.

Eyewitnesses said houses were burnt and villagers were cut down with machetes. State radio reported that the raiders were disguised as soldiers.

State government spokesman Dan Manjang said the attack happened in Riyom area.

Hundreds of people have died in communal violence between Muslim and Christian groups near Jos this year.

Although the clashes take place between Muslims and Christians, observers say the underlying causes are economic and political.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/8572017.stm
Re: Fresh Clashes In Central Nigeria Kill 11 -radio by Fhemmmy: 5:34pm On Mar 17, 2010
All these folks with Cutlasses must be really strong that they cld just be killing like this, and yet no one do anything in the govt
Re: Fresh Clashes In Central Nigeria Kill 11 -radio by bgees(m): 5:39pm On Mar 17, 2010
The primary cause of the Jos crises is poltical and tribal, not religious. I have friends who are Biroms, and that is what I was told.
Re: Fresh Clashes In Central Nigeria Kill 11 -radio by BlackRevo: 5:46pm On Mar 17, 2010
At least 10 people have been killed in an attack on a mainly Christian village near the violence-hit Nigerian city of Jos, officials say.

Eyewitnesses said houses were burnt and villagers were cut down with machetes.

State radio reported that the raiders were disguised as soldiers.
shocked shocked


State government spokesman Dan Manjang said the attack happened in Riyom area.

Hundreds of people have died in communal violence between Muslim and Christian groups near Jos this year.

Although the clashes take place between Muslims and Christians, observers say the underlying causes are economic and political.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/8572017.stm
Re: Fresh Clashes In Central Nigeria Kill 11 -radio by truly: 5:46pm On Mar 17, 2010
@babsmii
someone once said the world would be a better place if these muslims are sent to the antartica without a coat,  im beginning to reason that line too,  no offense intended!


I believe that it would solve the following problems:
The tension between america and China will evaporate
The ETA in Spain will cease their bombings
North Korea will destroy all its nuclear weapons
Ukraine and Russia will become permanent friends
Russia will stop being a threat to Georgia
The baltic states of Estonia & co can breathe easy
Apartheid would not have happened
The 1st and 2nd world wars would have been avoided
Hitler would not have attempted a "solution" to the jewish problem
The inquisition would not have been necessary
The Ifes and Modakeke would be bosom friends
Same for Ijaws, Itsekiri, Jukuns, Umuleri
Nigerian exorcists would stop burning and stabbing children
And so on so on

Maybe you should give it a serious thought and the army of unemployed youths in Nigeria will become employed
But the christians working and living in muslim countries will have to come back home to their country to join fellow christians
in their countries where there will now be no armed robberies
Benin-Ore road can be travelled at all times without armed escort
Just like at the Vatican, there will be no need for security agencies
Oh 419, yahoo yahoo will be gone
no disease, poverty, stealing governors (all the kleptomaniacs are muslims)
And the muslims who have misled Iwu, Obj, Akala, Gbenga Daniel etc would be gone
there will be no assasination of people like Ige, Dikibo, Marshal Harry, etc again since Muslims were responsible
And next PDP primary in Anambra will be like a brothers and sisters meeting - most peaceful
Next Ekiti election will be devoid of tension
Of course Akunyili and Ayoka will tell us what happened and how the Muslims tricked them
Luckily Gani Fawehinmi is gone, you would not need him to check Obj, Agagu etc
For the lovers of Ribadu and El Rufai, their shoes will be filled by Ibori, Odili and Igbinedion

The benefits would be immense, no doubt
Re: Fresh Clashes In Central Nigeria Kill 11 -radio by otawa: 5:50pm On Mar 17, 2010
Let us pray that the govt will open their eyes and do something fast

common, you can do better than this.

This house has fallen!

It just remains to be buried!
Re: Fresh Clashes In Central Nigeria Kill 11 -radio by crescent(f): 5:50pm On Mar 17, 2010
truly:

@babsmii
someone once said the world would be a better place if these muslims are sent to the antartica without a coat,  im beginning to reason that line too,  no offense intended!


I believe that it would solve the following problems:
The tension between america and China will evaporate
The ETA in Spain will cease their bombings
North Korea will destroy all its nuclear weapons
Ukraine and Russia will become permanent friends
Russia will stop being a threat to Georgia
The baltic states of Estonia & co can breathe easy
Apartheid would not have happened
The 1st and 2nd world wars would have been avoided
Hitler would not have attempted a "solution" to the jewish problem
The inquisition would not have been necessary
The Ifes and Modakeke would be bosom friends
Same for Ijaws, Itsekiri, Jukuns, Umuleri
Nigerian exorcists would stop burning and stabbing children
And so on so on

Maybe you should give it a serious thought and the army of unemployed youths in Nigeria will become employed
But the christians working and living in muslim countries will have to come back home to their country to join fellow christians
in their countries where there will now be no armed robberies
Benin-Ore road can be travelled at all times without armed escort
Just like at the Vatican, there will be no need for security agencies
Oh 419, yahoo yahoo will be gone
no disease, poverty, stealing governors (all the kleptomaniacs are muslims)
And the muslims who have misled Iwu, Obj, Akala, Gbenga Daniel etc would be gone
there will be no assasination of people like Ige, Dikibo, Marshal Harry, etc again since Muslims were responsible
And next PDP primary in Anambra will be like a brothers and sisters meeting - most peaceful
Next Ekiti election will be devoid of tension
Of course Akunyili and Ayoka will tell us what happened and how the Muslims tricked them
Luckily Gani Fawehinmi is gone, you would not need him to check Obj, Agagu etc
For the lovers of Ribadu and El Rufai, their shoes will be filled by Ibori, Odili and Igbinedion

The benefits would be immense, no doubt
 


You have said it all, and we are ready for evacuation!!!!

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