agaugust:

We fight experienced Islamic forces linked to Taliban and Al-Qaeda and we are still fighting.....
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Yeah, and every soldier in the SANDF is also part of the S.A.S

See!! I can say ludicrous things as well!

As for your Rhino poaching argument, still waiting for you to show us where it says conservation is the SANDF's responsibility

Henry120:

LMAO

Not only is the R-4 a copy of the AK-47, the AKM pictured with the nigerians is a superior assault rifle to the R-4(copy).

1. The R-4 is not a copy of the AK-47, please show us where it says that
2. The AKM was introduced in 1959. The origional Galil was introduced in 1972

AKM was obsolete before the first IMI Galil even entered service.

You are basically saying that a US M-14 is better than a M-4

agaugust:


Nope. Kruger park is only 19,000 sq km, Israel is 27,000 sq km.

North East Nigeria war zone is 13 times the size of your Kruger park.

And you have deployed 20 000 men

And we have deployed 200

And yet we lose less rhino than you lose people.

agaugust:

You say SANDF is supporting not leading? Wow !

Means SANDF if a useless force of supporters. UN in Congo DRC should expel your battalion because you are there as supporters.

You don't want to accept that you are a vital part of any mission once that mission fails. SANDF is an unreliable and irresponsible helper.

Yes, the SANDF is there for Operation Corona - to secure our borders.

How does it mean they are useless supporters?

What missions have we failed?

Straw-man arguments everywhere these days

agaugust:
Your military was brought into Kruger park because the Rangers have failed, and as a better force based on fine fine photographs, SANDF was brought in to do what Rangers cannot do, SANDF 21 Battalion joined together with your 'Historically Famous' Special Forces, plus the Air Force helicopters and Drones joined to them in same operation....do you know how much of a high level force that is?

Yet your country's last hope and last line of defense failed in the time of need, South African military has admitted defeated from mere hunters and your disappointed nation is removing Rhinos overseas to go and hide them in Botswana where their army is better than SANDF

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They were deployed to the park to patrol the border, not protect rhino. They only get involved if they suspect poachers have come from Mozambique.

Considering that the entire force is 200 men, a single helicopter and a single drone... its a very small force. And that is all they need to patrol the border fence in that section.

No Rhino's are being removed

As I have shown Rhino poaching is on the decrease

As I have shown we have arrested more poachers than you have BH members

As I have shown we lose less Rhino than you do people.

Fact of the matter is that you can point your finger at us, but 4 of your own fingers are pointing at you.

You sit here and argue that the SANDF is a useless military when your own men have lost towns to BH, where you top the world terror rankings, where your men mutiny, attack their commanders, desert, refuse to fight the enemy?

You are a joker.

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[size=16pt]Confession :

South African Navy Frigates Patrol Daily But Cannot Catch Any Pirate[/size]


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Zero Force Projection.

Dullest Navy In Africa !

Valour Frigates Always Dribbled and Beaten By Common Sea Pirates.

Piracy Has Been Taking Place In Southern Africa But Always Escape Unless Nigeria Is Called To Rescue

Reason Why Angola Called In Nigerian Navy....Dumps SADC Defence Partner South Africa !

Titus Sardine Fish Submarine Navy Becomes A Useless Waste Of SANDF Bank Loans

Blue Water SAN Fails At Home !

Confession :

"South Africa’s Navy is fighting pirates!

Yes. Believe it or not, the SA Navy and Special Forces have been deployed to the Mozambican Channel for several years now, in a deliberate operation aimed at capturing or deterring pirate attacks originating from Somali coast. Although they have not yet caught a single pirate (instances of pirate activity are low), there have been several occasions where the Navy has chased or inspected suspicious vessels."

http://www.africandefence.net/five-things-you-never-knew-about-the-south-african-military/
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Since patrols started only one pirat enterd the AO and he was all ready being chased. There have been no reportad acts of piracy in the AO.

The boat that pirats attacked in angola where attacked by nigerian pirats who then sailed back to nigeria. Why would SA be asked to help since when they goy caught they where in NN AO

Seems Zuma was in "secret" talks in Russia (not so secret as the story got broken by news24).

Its seems the main purpose of the talks between him and Vlad was the new AU Rapid Response formation we are putting together... specifically air-lift.

Gunna be interesting to see what comes out of this.... aquisitions, or just some lend-lease type of deal until a decision an the A400-M is made.

I will be quite butthurt if we get Il-75's... after Helmoed thrashed them so hard.

But some An-124's for strategic lift or An-70's for medium lift wont be too bad. And maybe we will hop in on the development of the Il-112 (dem BRICS connections)

Having the DR on the horizon has made things very interesting indeed.

patches689: Seems Zuma was in "secret" talks in Russia (not so secret as the story got broken by news24).

Its seems the main purpose of the talks between him and Vlad was the new AU Rapid Response formation we are putting together... specifically air-lift.

Gunna be interesting to see what comes out of this.... aquisitions, or just some lend-lease type of deal until a decision an the A400-M is made.

I will be quite butthurt if we get Il-75's... after Helmoed thrashed them so hard.

But some An-124's for strategic lift or An-70's for medium lift wont be too bad. And maybe we will hop in on the development of the Il-112 (dem BRICS connections)

Having the DR on the horizon has made things very interesting indeed.

South Africa has NONE of those shiny huge aircraft you are posting and SANDF is broke, they will buy NOTHING

Shattered Dreams galore
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patches689:

Again

You have small quantities

But it is not standardized like it is in the SANDF

It's no secret that only elite Nigerian troops are equipped as well as the average South African serviceman

[size=14pt]#ShowUs Proof OfHowMany AGL-MGL-ANTI-MATERIAL WeaponsInSANDF[/size]

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patches689:

When you bring the number of Nigerians butchered by boko haram below the number of rhino killed in SA- then you can talk

Nope, you are hiding information, SANDF and Rangers are ALL being k.illed in the Rhino poaching war ! Not only animals, South African military men and paramilitary men are dying, Rhino Paochers are 'sh.ooting' down South African air force helicopters k.illing SAAF Pilots, men and officers !

OMG where are your 'famous Gripen Jets with targeting pods and laser guided bombs ?

Where are your Rooivalk helicopters with air to surface missiles ?

Oh My God ! South Africa in invaded by mere hunters from Mozambique and your military cannot stop them !

American commandos and American drones imported to save the 'Strongest Military In SADC Region' . LOL

Now chew on this AIDS carriers of ANC Kingdom :


[size=14pt] Over 100 South African Military And Para-Military K.illed In Rhino War

....One Of Many Reasons American Soldiers Arrive To Defend South Africa [/size]

"There’s a war going on in southern Africa. And though it may not have the human body count of, say, Sudan, this battle is just as bloody. In 2012, rhino poaching in South Africa left more than 650 rhinos illegally slaughtered– approximately one every 16 hours– and more than 100 humans died in the fight to protect them."

http://greenglobaltravel.com/2013/03/18/rhino-poaching-in-south-africa-rhino-wars/


PHOTO : AMERICAN COMMANDOS IN SOUTH AFRICA TO SAVE BOTH RHINOS AND SANDF SOLDIERS FROM BUSH MERE HUNTERS !




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agaugust:


[size=14pt]#ShowUs Proof OfHowMany AGL-MGL-ANTI-MATERIAL WeaponsInSANDF[/size]

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MGL is secstion level. 27 secstions mean 27 MGLs per battlion in adstion there are 27 pat mortas though they controledd by the platoon comanda. The battlion has 4 AGLs.

The NTW20 is used only by SF. There is not even a accurent figuer on how many operators there are.

For the AGL and pat morta

http://itweb.co.za/mobilesite/defenceweb/home/item_id-6553/

The MGL is based on what I know. Though from pics you can see it is the case. All so the rifleman may carry a rifel grenade.

agaugust:

Nope, you are hiding information, SANDF and Rangers are ALL being k.illed in the Rhino poaching war ! Not only animals, South African military men and paramilitary men are dying, Rhino Paochers are 'sh.ooting' down South African air force helicopters k.illing SAAF Pilots, men and officers !

OMG where are your 'famous Gripen Jets with targeting pods and laser guided bombs ?

Where are your Rooivalk helicopters with air to surface missiles ?

Oh My God ! South Africa in invaded by mere hunters from Mozambique and your military cannot stop them !

American commandos and American drones imported to save the 'Strongest Military In SADC Region' . LOL

Now chew on this AIDS carriers of ANC Kingdom :


[size=14pt] Over 100 South African Military And Para-Military K.illed In Rhino War

....One Of Many Reasons American Soldiers Arrive To Defend South Africa [/size]

"There’s a war going on in southern Africa. And though it may not have the human body count of, say, Sudan, this battle is just as bloody. In 2012, rhino poaching in South Africa left more than 650 rhinos illegally slaughtered– approximately one every 16 hours– and more than 100 humans died in the fight to protect them."

http://greenglobaltravel.com/2013/03/18/rhino-poaching-in-south-africa-rhino-wars/


PHOTO : AMERICAN COMMANDOS IN SOUTH AFRICA TO SAVE BOTH RHINOS AND SANDF SOLDIERS FROM BUSH MERE HUNTERS !




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My Goodness I can smell the shiit you just typed through the screen.

agaugust:

South Africa has NONE of those shiny huge aircraft you are posting and SANDF is broke, they will buy NOTHING

Shattered Dreams galore
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we all know we dont have them - so well done on pointing out the obvious

And the SANDF is not broke - just wait for the budget announcement

We have more money than you and we know how to spend it

agaugust:


[size=14pt]#ShowUs Proof OfHowMany AGL-MGL-ANTI-MATERIAL WeaponsInSANDF[/size]

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Standardized through the military

AGLs- recently introduced and being phased in, all-ready seen combat use

MGL's - in use since the 1980's. Completely standardized

Anti-Material is only used by SF/SOF and scout elements.

agaugust:

Nope, you are hiding information, SANDF and Rangers are ALL being k.illed in the Rhino poaching war ! Not only animals, South African military men and paramilitary men are dying, Rhino Paochers are 'sh.ooting' down South African air force helicopters k.illing SAAF Pilots, men and officers !

OMG where are your 'famous Gripen Jets with targeting pods and laser guided bombs ?

Where are your Rooivalk helicopters with air to surface missiles ?

Oh My God ! South Africa in invaded by mere hunters from Mozambique and your military cannot stop them !

American commandos and American drones imported to save the 'Strongest Military In SADC Region' . LOL

Now chew on this AIDS carriers of ANC Kingdom :


[size=14pt] Over 100 South African Military And Para-Military K.illed In Rhino War

....One Of Many Reasons American Soldiers Arrive To Defend South Africa [/size]

"There’s a war going on in southern Africa. And though it may not have the human body count of, say, Sudan, this battle is just as bloody. In 2012, rhino poaching in South Africa left more than 650 rhinos illegally slaughtered– approximately one every 16 hours– and more than 100 humans died in the fight to protect them."

http://greenglobaltravel.com/2013/03/18/rhino-poaching-in-south-africa-rhino-wars/


PHOTO : AMERICAN COMMANDOS IN SOUTH AFRICA TO SAVE BOTH RHINOS AND SANDF SOLDIERS FROM BUSH MERE HUNTERS !




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POACHERS ARE NOT A THREAT IN SA AND BOKO HARAM IS A THREAT IN NIGERIA.

andrewza:

MGL is secstion level. 27 secstions mean 27 MGLs per battlion in adstion there are 27 pat mortas though they controledd by the platoon comanda. The battlion has 4 AGLs.

The NTW20 is used only by SF. There is not even a accurent figuer on how many operators there are.

For the AGL and pat morta

http://itweb.co.za/mobilesite/defenceweb/home/item_id-6553/

The MGL is based on what I know. Though from pics you can see it is the case. All so the rifleman may carry a rifel grenade.

I need a reliable source of how many MGL-AGL-ANTI MATERIAL weapons in total numbers with SANDF, then DefenceWed is NOT a reliable source, he said Nigeria has almost 100 units of BTR-3U IFV.

If you bring DefenceWeb, then EVERYTHING on Beegeagle too becomes 100% correct, get it ?


#ShowUs Proof OfHowMany AGL-MGL-ANTI-MATERIAL WeaponsInSANDF

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agaugust:

I need a reliable source of how many MGL-AGL-ANTI MATERIAL weapons in total numbers with SANDF, then DefenceWed is NOT a reliable source, he said Nigeria has almost 100 units of BTR-3U IFV.

If you bring DefenceWeb, then EVERYTHING on Beegeagle too becomes 100% correct, get it ?


#ShowUs Proof OfHowMany AGL-MGL-ANTI-MATERIAL WeaponsInSANDF

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Nope

Defenceweb is a news-outlet - unbaised and factual. There is no "he" in defenceweb

Beegeagle is a blog - based on personal opinion and unreliable.

This guy still does not know what a blog is?

agaugust:

I need a reliable source of how many MGL-AGL-ANTI MATERIAL weapons in total numbers with SANDF, then DefenceWed is NOT a reliable source, he said Nigeria has almost 100 units of BTR-3U IFV.

If you bring DefenceWeb, then EVERYTHING on Beegeagle too becomes 100% correct, get it ?


#ShowUs Proof OfHowMany AGL-MGL-ANTI-MATERIAL WeaponsInSANDF

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#ShowUsProofOfHowManyAGL-MGL-Anti-MaterialWeaponsInNA

andrewza:

My Goodness I can smell the shiit you just typed through the screen.

Yes, I typed story of South Africa's Rhino War Shiit, that's why you can easily smell it, it's your country's shiit, you live there !
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patches689:

#ShowUsProofOfHowManyAGL-MGL-Anti-MaterialWeaponsInNA

You show yours first, I asked first ! All we see is SANDF making 100 photos of the same one or two pieces of AGL being repeated in different photos !

Sure you have maximum of only 10 like the Rooivalks you produce at home !

#ShowUs Proof OfHowMany AGL-MGL-ANTI-MATERIAL WeaponsInSANDF

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agaugust:

Yes, I typed in South Africa's Rhino War Shiit, that's why you can easily smell it, you live there !
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Private Game reserve

Private individuals working for a private company

for a TV show.

Hardly indicative of anything other than the fact that Americans want to watch a show about former operators running around the bush.

agaugust:

I need a reliable source of how many MGL-AGL-ANTI MATERIAL weapons in total numbers with SANDF, then DefenceWed is NOT a reliable source, he said Nigeria has almost 100 units of BTR-3U IFV.

If you bring DefenceWeb, then EVERYTHING on Beegeagle too becomes 100% correct, get it ?


#ShowUs Proof OfHowMany AGL-MGL-ANTI-MATERIAL WeaponsInSANDF

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Why? are the pics of countless mgls not enough?

No it does not. It disqustion between the difrent verstions.

Beegal a blog, defencweb news orginistion.

agaugust:

You show yours first, I asked first ! All we see is SANDF making 100 photos of the same one or two pieces of AGL being repeated !
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This is such a hilariously childish post I am not going to bother entertaining it.

Moms calling, dinners ready, stop shiit posting on nairaland and go wash up!

andrewza:

Why? are the pics of countless mgls not enough?

No it does not. It disqustion between the difrent verstions.

Beegal a blog, defencweb news orginistion.

Nope, you don't have any 'countless' numbers of AGL or MGL !

All we see is SANDF making 100 photos of the same one or two pieces of AGL being repeated in different photos !

Sure you have maximum of only 10 like the Rooivalks you produce at home !

#ShowUs Proof OfHowMany AGL-MGL-ANTI-MATERIAL WeaponsInSANDF

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While Nigeria is buying obsolete and (practically useless) Hinds...

Look what Saudi Arabia just got.

Now this is a goddamn COIN asset!

Well done on wasting all that money Nigeria

agaugust:

Nope, you don't have any 'countless' numbers of AGL or MGL !

All we see is SANDF making 100 photos of the same one or two pieces of AGL being repeated in different photos !

Sure you have maximum of only 10 like the Rooivalks you produce at home !

#ShowUs Proof OfHowMany AGL-MGL-ANTI-MATERIAL WeaponsInSANDF

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Making ridiculous requests again?

Such sub-human argument tactics:

Losing a debate? - YES!
Have no legitimate retort? - YES!!
Make outrageous demands!!

Just like when Henry120 wanted us to fly to Northern Nigeria and take photos to prove BH had captured that town (now towns)

Clown

patches689: Seems Zuma was in "secret" talks in Russia (not so secret as the story got broken by news24).

Its seems the main purpose of the talks between him and Vlad was the new AU Rapid Response formation we are putting together... specifically air-lift.

Gunna be interesting to see what comes out of this.... aquisitions, or just some lend-lease type of deal until a decision an the A400-M is made.

I will be quite butthurt if we get Il-75's... after Helmoed thrashed them so hard.

But some An-124's for strategic lift or An-70's for medium lift wont be too bad. And maybe we will hop in on the development of the Il-112 (dem BRICS connections)

Having the DR on the horizon has made things very interesting indeed.

An introduction of Russian plane would mess up our logistics. I hate the idea of "lending",it would be a real good political move for SA to join development for a BRIC plane or purchase any from China,Brazil and Russia.

agaugust:


[size=14pt]#ShowUs Proof OfHowMany AGL-MGL-ANTI-MATERIAL WeaponsInSANDF[/size]

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More than Nigeria and better. ALWAYS better.

patches689:

This is such a hilariously childish post I am not going to bother entertaining it.

Moms calling, dinners ready, stop shiit posting on nairaland and go wash up!

Final count : SANDF has only one AGL being repeated in 100 different photos.

CASE CLOSED
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MikeZA: More than Nigeria and better. ALWAYS better.

PROVE IT !
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MikeZA: An introduction of Russian plane would mess up our logistics. I hate the idea of "lending",it would be a real good political move for SA to join development for a BRIC plane or purchase any from China,Brazil and Russia.

I was thinking "lending" until we decide on what direction to take with light, medium and heavy lift

But ja, I read a comment Mr Heitman made on defence web RE: Il-75s... he knocked the christ out of the thing. I dont think I will ever be able to look at one in the same way..

agaugust:

Final count : SANDF has only one AGL being repeated in 100 different photos.

CASE CLOSED
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You are just wasting space in the nairaland servers at this point.