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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit1: 9:24am On Oct 22, 2014
chris365:


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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 9:29am On Oct 22, 2014
chris365:


sorry, didn't bother to read cos i know it will be tears as usual.
like i said, ish happens



You are owned!!!
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit1: 9:29am On Oct 22, 2014
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit1: 9:37am On Oct 22, 2014
chris365:


still hurting?

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Dude, you're a hero!
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 9:39am On Oct 22, 2014
agaugust:


We consented to their demand for cease-fire which they declared UNILATERALLY, go use a dictionary for the meaning of UNILATERAL, and for military purposes it is a less shameful way of temporary surrender by the losing side.

Boko Haram asked for Negotiation same way South Africa asked Cuba for negotiations when defeat was imminent, and Cuba accepted, most warring sides in war accept ceasefire most times in war history, go find out, ignorance is your own Ebola.

SADF = SANDF = BOKO HARAM LEVEL tongue tongue

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BOKO HARAM never demanded any cease fire, what they called for was an exchange. " you release our warriors and you get your girls" that's how it was like. They never called for a cease fire.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit1: 9:41am On Oct 22, 2014
Msauza:

BOKO HARAM never demanded any cease fire, what they called for was an exchange. " you release our warriors and you get your girls" that's how it was like. They never called for a cease fire.

Msauza, don't tell me you believed the cease-fire story even for a second when it came out? The Nigerian military's major announcements have always proved to be baseless and comical.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit1: 9:48am On Oct 22, 2014
While South Africa does, according to President Jacob Zuma, attach the greatest importance to the African Union, the Southern African Regional Development community and other key regional organisations, this does not always include representation at defence attaché level.

The list of South African diplomatic representation abroad published by the Department of International Relations and Co-operation (DIRCO) shows men and women in uniform flying the flag on military matters in 19 African countries.

Additionally, South Africa does not have direct military representation at the 54 member strong African Union. Instead the country’s military interests at the continental body are looked after by the attaché based in Ethiopia where a brigadier general is the senior military attaché supported by an attaché colonel and a third secretary (defence), a senior warrant officer.

When it comes to the United Nations, South African maintains a permanent mission in New York where a colonel is listed as defence advisor.

In addition to Ethiopia, South Africa diplomatic missions on the continent with defence representation are Algeria, Angola, Botswana, Cote d’Ivoire, Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC), Egypt, Kenya, Lesotho, Mozambique, Namibia, Nigeria, Rwanda, Sudan, Swaziland, Tunisia, Uganda, Zambia and Zimbabwe.

All told, across the globe, South Africa has military representation in 43 countries with diplomatic representation in 126.

“This,” Zuma said when he accepted credentials from incoming heads of mission, ambassadors and High Commissioners last week, “is how we have broadened our international reach from 34 missions abroad in 1994 to a staggering 126 missions today, with a sharp focus on Africa”.

South Africa’s membership of BRICS does not at this stage stretch to having a military attaché or defence advisor in India although senior officers are based in Brazil (a brigadier general and a major), Russia (a colonel) and China (a brigadier general, colonel and senior warrant officer).

The United States and United Kingdom both have brigadier generals heading up the South Africa military component of the foreign missions in Washington and London.

With the exception of Swaziland where a lieutenant colonel is listed as the current first secretary (defence), all other South African military attaches and defence advisors are either colonels or Navy captains
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 9:50am On Oct 22, 2014
agaugust:


Why not? Boko Haram is reported by BBC as the ones who requested for cease-fire, and promised to release Chibok girls in the process. We are intelligent enough to do that for the sake of the girls, Nigeria is not daft mumu like South Africa that cannot think it's way out of a street with 3 junction cross-roads.

Yesterday we killed 25 Bokos who did not respect the ceasefire.

We are getting the girls back for free, not for ransom, or you can post source to show we are paying Boko money?

Keep learning from Nigeria how to handle terrorists, mighty Israel exchanged one single Israeli army officer for 1,000 terrorists.

Soon, USA, NATO, Israel, and the world will be in Nigeria to learn how to frustrate, waste, and defeat terrorists.

America was here few weeks ago to learn how Nigeria became the first country in the world to defeat Ebola Virus, the USA in now struggling with Ebola and using the technique they learned from Abuja and Lagos to fight the disease, people are dying now in the USA, Nigeria to the rescue of the super power.

Soon, the world will be begging Nigeria to teach them how to win COIN wars.

South Africa has no formula to teach the world about how to defeat Rhino poachers except to tell the world to..."REMOVE ALL YOUR ENDANGERED ANIMALS AND ESCAPE INTO THE NEAREST NEIGHBOURING COUNTRY LIKE WE DID WIH BOTSWANA OUR SAVIOUR".... tongue tongue

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Boko haram never called for cease fire, you did. How will they anyway continue to kill people despite their call for cease fire? They do brake the deal knowing well that you are stranded.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 9:54am On Oct 22, 2014
DieVluit1:


Msauza, don't tell me you believed the cease-fire story even for a second when it came out? The Nigerian military's major announcements have always proved to be baseless and comical.


Anyway, I forgot that they are masters of propaganda.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 9:55am On Oct 22, 2014
Local UAV company S-Plane has unveiled its new Paragon command and control system, able to control multiple UAVs simultaneously.

Paragon was officially launched at the Africa Aerospace and Defence exhibition last month. The system is essentially a 3D world in which unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs), waypoints and other metadata are all objects that can be manipulated and controlled graphically by the operator. UAV sensor data can be viewed and projected onto the map, and as more data is gathered, more detail is added to the map. “This is the first of its kind as far as we know…there has been a lot of interest,” said Dr Iain Peddle, Chief Technical Officer at S-Plane.

Paragon allows the operator to control multiple UAVs as well as their payloads and can plot sensor swathe areas so that maximum coverage is obtained by aircraft sensors. An archiving function allows specific imagery to be reviewed in high definition. The system can be run on mobile devices such as rugged tables and laptops connecting to S-Plane’s ground data terminals wirelessly for freedom of operation.

S-Plane was established in 2008 and specialises in UAV flight control units and avionics with a focus on reliable subsystems. S-Plane started with flight control systems but now offers things like payload management units, power management systems etc. All software is developed in-house and all hardware is manufactured in South Africa.

Some of its main subsystems include the xSERIES control units for larger UAVs that address functions like flight control, navigation, power and payload management. Launched at AAD was the nxSERIES, which are smaller units aimed at more compact aircraft.
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In addition to manufacturing control systems and software, S-Plane has built two UAVs: the Swift and Nightingale. The Swift was built as a demonstrator for subsystems but is now offered as an operational aircraft. It has a wingspan of 7.5 metres and is powered by a UEL AR-741 rotary engine, giving an endurance of 12 hours and ceiling of 18 000 feet. It can carry two payloads, including an electro-optical/infrared turret and radar etc.

The Nightingale small UAV was built in conjunction with the National Health Laboratory Service (NHLS), which wanted to airdrop medical samples. Three Nightingales were built in conjunction with the South African Civil Aviation Authority and NHLS. 75 flights were flown without failure. However, the NHLS programme is on hold. Peddle said S-Plane was very interested in pursuing the medical role for UAVs and that countries with large rural areas can benefit from the system.

However, Peddle noted that S-Plane is more focused on subsystems rather than complete systems. “We see ourselves as an upgrade, refurbishment, system integration and design and engineering house.”

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 9:56am On Oct 22, 2014
Specialist simulator company ThoroughTec will be supplying simulators for four versions of the South African Army’s new Badger infantry fighting vehicles.

ThoroughTec has provided Patria driver training systems for Sweden and Croatia, giving it useful experience for the Badger, which is based on the Finnish Patria design. Denel Land Systems is currently building 238 Badger 8x8 vehicles for the Army at its Lyttelton premises in Centurion. These will be delivered over ten years and will partially replace the Army’s Ratel fleet.

ThoroughTec is no stranger to working with the South African National Defence Force as it has supplied all South African Army driver trainers including for the Ratel ZT-3, Rooikat, Casspir, Olifant, Mamba and Army trucks and cars. Although Thoroughtec has separate driver and turret simulators these can be linked together to train armoured vehicle crews, for example.

The Durban-based company’s simulator products have also found favour with the Australian, Swedish and Croatian militaries where its advanced driver training systems are currently in service. All simulation software is designed in-house, including the physics engines, motion platforms etc.

“The shift in global defence imperatives since the end of the Cold War has left many militaries struggling to strike a balance in their defence posture. Torn between the dynamic reality of low-intensity, asymmetric and peace support type operations and the persistent need to maintain credible conventional forces, governments have recognised the vital importance of Simulator based training as an effective, efficient means of managing this dilemma,” ThoroughTec said.

“Our simulators are solutions for militaries looking to economically train large numbers of personnel on a range of vehicles and systems,” said David Cooke, ThoroughTec military business development manager.

“In a world where the bottom line all too often dominates training priorities, Cyberwar simulators are an affordable, effective alternative to traditional training and force preparation methods. They allow militaries to build up reserves of trained personnel and maintain learnt skills, ultimately maintaining force preparedness while cutting training costs and radically reducing wear on prime mission equipment,” he added.

Thoroughtec specialises in mining simulators and other ground vehicle simulators. It is headquartered in Durban but has offices in Chile, the United States, Canada, Russia and Australia and employs around 200 people.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 9:57am On Oct 22, 2014
This year’s edition of Africa Aerospace and Defence (AAD) was move varied in terms of participation, with South African exhibitors appearing to outshine their foreign counterparts.

Compared to AAD 2012, 2014 was noticeably lighter regarding foreign exhibitors’ physical presence. All the big players (Boeing, Lockheed Martin, Airbus etc.) attended the September 17-21 exhibition at Air Force Base Waterkloof, but there were no aircraft or vehicles brought out specifically for the show as there was in 2012 and previous editions, and there were generally more models on display than real items of equipment. For example, in 2012 Saab flew their 340 MSA to Pretoria for AAD and Alenia their C-27J Spartan but this year they were only there on paper.

This trend was also evident during the air show days over the weekend, which were spectacular nevertheless, especially with the newly formed Hawk aerobatic display team. Some of the highlights included Mango and Kulula flypasts, Gripen, Vampire and Cheetah fast jets, an anti-poaching demonstration, mini-war and amazing helicopter displays by Dennis Kenyon. However, some show-goers were disappointed by the lack of foreign military aircraft flying – in 2012 the C-27J and Zimbabwe Air Force K-8 put on impressive displays for the crowds. This year the US Air Force brought military aircraft (C-17, C-130J) but these remained on static display.

It seems the main reason for the somewhat lacklustre foreign presence is the malnourished local defence market and the long wait for orders from the South African National Defence Force (SANDF). On paper, South Africa is acquiring tens of billions of rands worth of new military equipment in various projects such as Biro (offshore/inshore patrol vessels), Metsi/Kiepie (maritime patrol/light transport aircraft), Hotel (hydrographic vessel), Sepula and Vistula (armoured vehicles and trucks). Many of these projects, particularly Biro and Saucepan (as the maritime surveillance project was called), attracted many foreign companies to AAD 2012. However, South African National Defence Force programmes appear to take a long time to reach fruition – the decade taken by the Badger infantry fighting vehicle is one example.

Overall the international presence at this year’s exhibition was somewhat light, but nevertheless, even with an extra hangar, exhibition space at AAD 2014 was sold out, with 40 companies being turned away due to a lack of space.

South African aerospace, maritime, vehicle and defence companies stole most of the limelight at AAD 2014. Paramount, as usual, outdid itself, launching new unmanned aerial vehicles, signing a cooperation agreement with Boeing and formalising their recent acquisitions of Aerosud Aerospace Systems and Veecraft Marine. Their nine metre high Parabot was a major crowd pleaser, probably being the most photographed item at AFB Waterkloof. Another highlight was the exhibition debut of the AHRLAC, which flew into the base during the opening ceremony on 17 September.

Not to be outdone, Denel had a strong presence as well, launching a new light turret, unveiling the design for a new regional aircraft (SARA), announcing the establishment of an aviation training centre and displaying its wide range of equipment on offer, from the new Seeker 400 to the Marlin missile.

Other South African companies were eager to show off their new products and services, such as Wagtail Aviation with its new autogyros, S-Plane with its UAV control systems, Megaray with upgraded spotlights, Safomar with a variety of helicopters, the CSIR with a new airborne testing pod, Tellumat with UAV control units, Rippel Effect with its new less lethal grenade launcher etc.

A fair number of new landward defence products were unveiled at AAD 2014, such as the BAE Systems Land Systems South Africa RG21 protected vehicle, DCD Protected Mobility Oribi utility truck and Testudo unmanned ground vehicle, Windhoeker Maschinenfabrik Werewolf Mk III armoured personnel carrier and B-Cat’s unmanned ground vehicle. Osprea Logistics displayed two versions of its Mamba Mk 5 while LMT had its new Phoenix and Trojan armoured vehicles on display.

When opening AAD 2014, defence minister Nosiviwe Mapisa-Nqakula said she anticipated nearly 50 000 trade visitors to attend the exhibition. However, most exhibitors who spoke to defenceWeb agreed that this year was quieter in terms of numbers, but many said they were impressed by the quality of foreign military delegations attending the show. At the time of publication, no final attendance figures had been released by the South African Aerospace Maritime and Defence (AMD) industry association, which was tasked with organising AAD 2014.

AMD came under fire for some aspects of poor organisation, such as delays in approving accreditation, an almost empty media centre. Some exhibitors were placed in the half-empty media centre hangar, which meant that almost no-one passed through – one exhibitor in the hangar told defenceWeb that only four people came to his stand on day one of the show. In comparison, thousands walked through the Denel and Paramount hangar every day.

Overall, AAD again reinforced the fact that the local defence market is a tough place to do business in, with the SANDF struggling to find the funding it needs to replace ageing equipment. Although the Defence Review offers much hope, it is taking a long time to be approved. Previously the 2012 Defence Review, it has been renamed the 2014 Defence Review to reflect the long road to fruition. Faced with the slowly turning wheels of government and limited budgets at home, AAD again reflected how local companies are courting foreign clients and being forced to turn outside South Africa’s borders for survival.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 10:00am On Oct 22, 2014
South African aerospace companies Denel Aerostructures (DAe) and Denel Aviation, both part of the State-owned Denel Group, have unveiled a major new project – the South African Regional Aircraft (SARA). This is aimed at meeting a gap in the global market, preserving South Africa’s aerospace design and development capabilities, while also stimulating the country’s young aerospace engineers and technicians.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 10:57am On Oct 22, 2014
DieVluit1:


Your zings could kill me even when I'm lying in my grave. That's how clever they are. No one brings smart punchlines like you do. The way you say "more please". Simply mind-blowing!
I'm Sorry,but Seriously,are U This Daft Or Are U Just Doing This To Annoy People.Post Relevant Things And Stop Ki_ssing A_sses!.

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