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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:28am On Dec 21, 2014

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 8:39am On Dec 21, 2014
agaugust:


Nope South African still loses. You have poor engineering knowledge, even basic science is hard for you to understand.

Mokopa itsels is a land based vehicle, tube launched missile converted to pylon line launch typed for aircraft launch.

Missiles have launch convertibility by simple engineering, PL-9 air to air missile has land based version done by China.

We will just ask China for slant tube configuration and we eat up all your Lynx helicopters and the Mokopa will be fuel for burning your Lynx

40km SAM Vs 10km Mokopa ATGM.....this is fun-time....kill-time....shooting practice
.

wtf are you even talking about?

It needs VLS tubes you halfwit

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 8:41am On Dec 21, 2014
agaugust:


Bwahahaha grin grin

Hollywood style Air Show Demo for civilian spectators is NOT = War against an enemy that is armed to kill grin grin

South Africa has NO SINGLE qualified Gripen jet combat pilot today, they fly ONLY about 33 hours a year grin grin

No aviation fuel, no spare parts replacement money grin grin

SAAF is dead o !

See NAF pilot returning from combat with smoking gun, he flies part of the 1,148 combat sorties in 2 months and still flies almost daily !

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you say we have no single qualified pilot - i just posted a video of a SAAF pilot doing advanced low level maneuvers

Gripen pilots average 50 hours per year on the Grip - USAF considers 50 hours to be a combat ready pilot and the french fly only 40

18 000 hours in the air and a new long term contract with SAAB says otherwise
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 8:42am On Dec 21, 2014
agaugust:


No wonder you dont have it, fuel does not grow like farm produce. It's mined as a hydrocarbon. grin

Actually, it does grow like farm produce
http://boeing.mediaroom.com/2014-08-06-Boeing-Partners-with-South-African-Airways-to-Turn-New-Tobacco-Plant-into-Jet-Fuel
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 8:43am On Dec 21, 2014
agaugust:


LOL, not surprised it's a Southie coconut head speaking. You dont' know what ATGM looks like? Mumu.

Look at the tube mounted on the T-72 tank, that's a Nigerian anti-tank guided missile on our T-72 tank. Olodo
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That's a green lie. Nigeria uses swingfire and that launcher look nothing like swingfire. Launcher does not equate to an actual ATGM.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 8:44am On Dec 21, 2014
agaugust:


I don't care what the fvck Wikipedia says, you South Africans are known to edit Wikipedia and tell lies there at random.

Any mumu can edit wikipedia today and mislead the fools that have no other source to confirm.

The Russian news report says clearly that Kondor is a civilian satellite, small sized and civilian, very civilian to the core.

If an air force buys civilian grade Boeing 737 jet for transport, does that make the aircraft a military grade aircraft?

The Kondor is civilian grade, used by Russian Ministry Of Defence NOT Russian army, case you don't know, Ministry of defence is a civilian organization basically and run by civilians, just like Ministry of Agriculture.

Kondor is a SMALL SIZED CIVILIAN SATELLITE.....if at all South Africa is the buyer, it's NOT military, spy, or recce satellite, its civilian and small sized like your under-sized brain ! Mumu !

http://itar-tass.com/en/non-political/767884

Original Russian authentic source below :
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Its built by a civilian company

for the Russian military

its a military satellite

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 8:49am On Dec 21, 2014
agaugust:


http://www.worldsrichestcountries.com/


The richest GDP does not equate to an actual wealth of one country. China is still regarded as a poor country and so does Nigeria. They might all have the richest GDP, but they remain poorer of the poorest. Any economist who would at wealth of any country in that direction will be thrown to places.


The correct list.


https://www.gfmag.com/global-data/economic-data/richest-countries-in-the-world
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 9:38am On Dec 21, 2014
Nigeria listed as the extremely poor country by the world bank.


http://www.channelstv.com/2014/04/02/world-bank-rates-nigeria-among-extremely-poor-countries/
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 9:48am On Dec 21, 2014
Henry120:


You both meant the SAAF is broke, you only interpreted it differently. cheesy cheesy

You don't say, now I see.


Your ears have been cursed indeed. What does airlifting of bodies of SAs has to do with the financial status of SANDF? SANDF chartered a huge plane on purpose because it does not have such a plane and neither does Nigeria. Your country did not even have expertise to conduct DNA and had to import SA professionals at the cost of SA government. Shame for a country that always beat up their chest about their best education when they could not do simple DNA testing without the help of most bright SA scientists.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 10:22am On Dec 21, 2014
I really like it, new fighter pilots on the block.


http://www.saairforce.co.za/news-and-events/1326/saaf-gains-ten-new-pilots

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 10:48am On Dec 21, 2014
Moving forward slowly but surely.

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 10:53am On Dec 21, 2014
move forward, step by step.

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 11:49am On Dec 21, 2014
It takes minimum of five years for a pilot to qualify as gripen fighter pilot. In 2010 when SA received their gripen C we had almost 8 pilots and 2 navigators and has since multiplied slowly to 14 pilots and 4 navigators, but now things have changed. The new kids on the blog will add to that number to make it 26 in 2015/16. Just keep on watching this space.

We are going forward surely but slowly.

I guote :

To solo on the Gripen should typically take new pilots five years, 2 Squadron's operations officer, Lt Col Musa
“Midnite” Mbhokota told journalists in October. This includes basic military training (three months), officers
forming course (a further three months), the Military Academy (one year) and basic pilot training (one year).
The latter includes 180 hours on the Pilatus PC7 MkII. Next follows some 390 hours on the Hawk at 85 CFS
before posting to 2 Squadron where conversion to the Gripen takes place, starting with six weeks in the
classroom followed by 70 hours on the Squadron Level Mission Trainer (a flight simulator) and a further 70
hours on the aircraft. Both periods include 30 hours of conversion training, 20 hours of air warfare training
and 20 hours of surface warfare training. It then takes a further six sorties to solo.




http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=11203:saaf-boasts-23-fighter-aircrew&catid=35:Aerospace&Itemid=107
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:57am On Dec 21, 2014
NaijaPikinGidi:


No fuel! wink wink wink wink
NAF has absolutely nothing, never mind fuel!
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 12:01pm On Dec 21, 2014
agaugust:


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[size=16pt]Nigerian army T-72 tanks with Anti-Tank Guided Missiles in war zone...

Wrecking Boko Haram's armour and shilkas !
.[/size]
@Henry says photos dont prove anything, thus a source is needed to prove you have T72s
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 12:08pm On Dec 21, 2014
patches689:


you say we have no single qualified pilot - i just posted a video of a SAAF pilot doing advanced low level maneuvers

Gripen pilots average 50 hours per year on the Grip - USAF considers 50 hours to be a combat ready pilot and the french fly only 40

18 000 hours in the air and a new long term contract with SAAB says otherwise
Actually SAAF Gripen Pilots averaged 224 hours per pilot in 2010, but due to budget cuts they only flew 110 hours in 2011, I expect thanks to the defence review and the fact SAAF received an extra R500 million in 2014 they are back flying more than 200 hours again.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 12:25pm On Dec 21, 2014
agaugust:

Nigeria has 4 satellites, your backward South Africa may have 1 satellite IF the Kondor is yours and you show us earth images it produced
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lol why do we have to show you pictures it takes?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 12:25pm On Dec 21, 2014
Henry120:


Still no fuel for the SAAF. Show us bio-fuel in your tanks?

18 000 hours
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 12:26pm On Dec 21, 2014
agaugust:


Quote where I said its a Reccon Sat.

Any good earth observation sat can spy, does not have to be dedicated for spying, there are various technical capabilies

your sattelights do not have a definition to perform such precise work

Yours are optical, ours is radar
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 12:27pm On Dec 21, 2014
agaugust:




The Gripen instructors themselves don't fly enough hours to qualify. In SAAF, the blind leads the blind, both fall into the mud pit one day.


50+ hours per year per pilot
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 12:27pm On Dec 21, 2014
agaugust:


Show me a proof, a source, from the manufacturer that sold a functioning military satellite to South Africa
.

been posted
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 12:28pm On Dec 21, 2014
Henry120:


4th GEN fighters you only fly 1 hour 30 minutes per month in, or the 9 pilots you have for a fleet of 26 planes.

Which is it really?

50 hours per pilot per year

14 Pilots

18 000 hours

You have zero 4th gen fighters
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 12:29pm On Dec 21, 2014
Henry120:


It does not make any sense that 14 pilots can take 26 fighters up in the Sky.

Are you guys now denying you purchased 26 Gripen fighters?

this response makes no sense
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 12:30pm On Dec 21, 2014
Henry120:


You are leaving in a fool's paradise.

Your Airforce is a total sh1t hole. You had better dissolve the entire service, instead of going around claiming you have one.

The SAAF lacks everything. From pilots, to fuel, Aircrafts....... everything.

SAAF is faaar superior to NAF

Your pathetic and transparent attacks against the SAAF does not detract from the fact that SAAF is faaar superior to NAF

50 hours per pilot per year
14 pilots
18 000 flight hours

Deal
with
it
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 12:37pm On Dec 21, 2014
jln115:

@Henry says photos dont prove anything, thus a source is needed to prove you have T72s
that's a T72 on Nigerian soil.. are you too dim-witted to comprehend?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 12:39pm On Dec 21, 2014
Henry120:


Simple maths didn't tell you, you bought 26 planes, and half are only now grounded because you lack the funds and pilots to fly them.

The SAAF has only 18 Air crew members.

17 C models
9 D models.

9 pilots and 9 navigators.

14 pilots because 14 pilots is what we need for our current threat profile.

SAAF has ensure that it has the equipment it needs to quickly expand its capabilities if the need arises. All armies in the world keep equipment in reserves.

Unlike Nigeria who got caught with its pants down with its miss-matched and short sighted procurement policy
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 12:43pm On Dec 21, 2014
Henry120:


Let's us see the challenges.

The SAAF,

Has it's entire A109 fleet grounded

Only has 3 C-130's for an area of 1.2 km

Has only 10 half-french helicopters for an area of 1.2 km

It lacks Avaition fuel

The service only has 9 pilots for 26 planes.

The service flies 56 years old Daks for MP duties

It lacks funds.

It also has half it's Gripen fleet in storage.


Is this service worth keeping afloat?

A109 fleet was grounded - pending paperwork. SOP in any airforce in the world.

C-130 needs is not defined by landmass. And A400Ms are back in the pipeline

Rooivalk needs are not dictated by land mass

18 000 hours out of 22 000 hours budgeted for means we have an excess of fuel

14 Pilots, inline with our defense posture and requirements

DAKs have modern avionics and engines - and are being replaced

It operates on a tight budget, but it is not lacking of funds

No Gripen are in storage

This service is one that Nigerians could only dream of having, coompared to your mismatched assortment of obsolete equipment that is either grounded or barely airworthy and that cannot full the needs your military has.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 12:44pm On Dec 21, 2014
Henry120:


Yes, 9 Gripen pilots do not add up to 26 SAAF Gripens. The least should be 26 Gripen pilots for 26 jets, After 15 freaking years.

In 15 years from now, you still wouldn't have had enough pilots for your 26 Gripen jets. In 2029 the SAAF would have 18 Gripen pilots for 26 planes, and in 2044, 26 Gripen pilots for 26 planes.

The SAAF needs 45 years to train 26 Gripen pilots. undecided undecided

First we have 14 pilots

Second, we have 14 pilots because what we need is 14 pilots.

Time and training have nothing to do with it. Its based on needs and sending funding to more active and needed units
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 12:45pm On Dec 21, 2014
agaugust:


Sorry, your Russian masters who built your small satellite says it's civilian grade tongue tongue

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Where do they say its civilian grade?

Its built by civilians - for the Russian military

Hence: It is a military satellite
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 12:47pm On Dec 21, 2014
Henry120:


So your Airforce could not afford to transport back your citizens. Pathetic.

Your airforce could not afford to fly back soldiers in the Sudan who were abandoned for so long that they had to mutiny in order to get a flight home

Now that is pathetic
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 12:48pm On Dec 21, 2014
Henry120:


So no aviation fuel for your C-130's, proves our point.

Why have you been denying you had aviation fuel, when it is obvious you don't?

18 000 hours says we have more than enough

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