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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 2:39pm On Mar 27, 2015
dragon2:


m.news24.com/news24/SouthAfrica/News/Navy-warship-fires-on-Cape-fishing-boat-20150327

It was the Germans

Describing his “pretty horrific and very stressful” experience to defenceWeb, a traumatised Day explained that while he was waiting for his crew before launching, a charter boat operator arrived, towing a 14 foot radio-controlled speed boat. The black-painted boat featured a radar reflector and a German technician commenced pre-launch activities.
Close call after Navy apparently fires on fishing boat during Ex Good Hope - Defenceweb

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by dragon2(m): 2:42pm On Mar 27, 2015
patches689:


It was the Germans

Describing his “pretty horrific and very stressful” experience to defenceWeb, a traumatised Day explained that while he was waiting for his crew before launching, a charter boat operator arrived, towing a 14 foot radio-controlled speed boat. The black-painted boat featured a radar reflector and a German technician commenced pre-launch activities.
Close call after Navy apparently fires on fishing boat during Ex Good Hope - Defenceweb

Of course it is quite conveniently the Germans fault.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 2:44pm On Mar 27, 2015
dragon2:


Of course it is quite conveniently the Germans fault.

The presence of Germans confirms it.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by dragon2(m): 2:50pm On Mar 27, 2015
patches689:


The presence of Germans confirms it.

No it does not, how is it that the person who was shot at and speedily ran off is the one to decide that it is the Germans that shot at him?

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 2:50pm On Mar 27, 2015
dragon2:

No it does not, how is it that the person who was shot at and speedily ran off is the one to decide that it is the Germans that shot at him?

Germans were present preparing to conduct their gunnery exercises

Its cut and dry
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by dragon2(m): 2:53pm On Mar 27, 2015
From a mile out in the pitch black he identified it as German after being shot at lmao. He may think it is German,but if it was German,they wouldn't have missed.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 2:53pm On Mar 27, 2015
dragon2:
From a mile out in the pitch black he identified it as German after being shot at lmao. He may think it is German,but if it was German,they wouldn't have missed.

The black-painted boat featured a radar reflector and a German technician commenced pre-launch activities.

Please read before you try to argue with me
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:56pm On Mar 27, 2015
dragon2:


Crawford-Browne said evidence showed that Barclays Bank of England financed the acquisition of the BAE
Hawk and the BAE/Saab Gripen fighter aircraft.
Commmerzbank of Germany financed the purchase of the four frigates and three submarines.

Societe Generale in France financed Thomson CSF combat suites in the German frigates. Mediocredito Centrale in
Italy backed the purchase of 30 Augusta helicopters.

SALOANDF

LOL !!

www.iolmobile.co.za/#!/article/arms-deal-raped-sa-crawford-browne-1.1762047


Ah ! Double Wahala for dead body o ! gringringringrin

.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 2:57pm On Mar 27, 2015
agaugust:


Ah ! Double Wahala for dead body o ! gringringringrin

.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by dragon2(m): 3:00pm On Mar 27, 2015
patches689:


The black-painted boat featured a radar reflector and a German technician commenced pre-launch activities.

Please read before you try to argue with me

The sentence does not carry conclusive info to suggest it was a German ship that fire those shells.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by dragon2(m): 3:01pm On Mar 27, 2015
patches689:


[size=25pt]Jonathan gets approval to borrow $1billion to fight Boko Haram
http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/168645-jonathan-gets-approval-to-borrow-1billion-to-fight-boko-haram.html[/size]
At least the vast part of our Air force and Navy does not belong to banks.
SALOANDF.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 3:03pm On Mar 27, 2015
dragon2:

At least the vast part of our Air force and Navy does not belong to banks.
SALOANDF.

Because the large part of your airforce and navy is inoperable obsolete junk

Our loan payments are on schedule and will be completed in 2018
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 3:04pm On Mar 27, 2015
dragon2:


The sentence does not carry conclusive info to suggest it was a German ship that fire those shells.

The artical does not carry conclusive info to suggest it was a South African ship that fired those shells
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by dragon2(m): 3:19pm On Mar 27, 2015
patches689:


The article does not carry conclusive info to suggest it was a South African ship that fired those shells

Considering your navy's penchant for ineptitude, and German efficiency,I wouldn't put by bet on SA NAVY being the saints.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by dragon2(m): 3:23pm On Mar 27, 2015
patches689:


Because the large part of your airforce and navy is inoperable obsolete junk

Our loan payments are on schedule and will be completed in 2018


Ha, at least it ours. Already your acquisitons are getting dated,your frigates are outgunned at range and your Gripens ain't BVR capable, and you haven't yet finished paying. You will need another loan to update them cause you guys can't even get transport acquisitions.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:35pm On Mar 27, 2015
jln115:


Well done!!! it took you years to wipe out a rebel force, it took South Africa a few days to wipe the M23 of the face of thee earth and took 200 paratroopers a weekend to bring seleka to their knees and beg for a surrender.

Over 10 years now Rangers + SANDF + SF + SAAF have FAILED to wipe out local Rhino poachers reigning supreme on South African homeland soil.

Your Southie record of fighting security threats at home is almost as bad as that of Somalia
.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:42pm On Mar 27, 2015
patches689:


Because the large part of your airforce and navy is inoperable obsolete junk

Our loan payments are on schedule and will be completed in 2018


Debt upon debt in billions of dollars. No money for new OPV, we have always told you....the current OPV bidding process us a mere talk show, seeing your mounting debt level cheesy
.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 3:53pm On Mar 27, 2015
jln115:

Did i say the Germans fired it?
I said it was possible, it could of been German and South African ships firing simultaneously,besides the fishing boat was in the wrong place as well and the captain was fully aware there would be live firing from the South African and German Navies.

These fishing vessels are such a nuisance during live firing exercises.

Some years back one disturbed SA and Germany navy frigates from using their anti-ship missiles to sink a stripped retired strike craft.

Some African navies don't face this cause they never hold live fire exercises.

Just wait for the exercise brief you'll see how that guy was in a area he wasn't supposed to be.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:54pm On Mar 27, 2015
Henry120:


Apparently, the South-Africans can't seem to quit embarrassing themselves and the rest of the continent!


http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/Ne...-boat-20150327
27/3/15 - An SA navy vessel fired three rounds 'accidentally' at a South African fishing boat. Fortunately for the fishermen, it seems the Navy can't shoot..



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Okoko bioko gringringrin

All they know is photography.

South African Hollywood internet based online military CANNOT shoot straight o !

Demo photos are deceptive o ![/size]

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:08pm On Mar 27, 2015
Henry120:


grin grin grin grin

Yet these clowns claim they are getting 6 additional Frigates and OPV's

SAN is collapsing under debt, they will buy NOTHING called new ship until their old debt is paid. Bank manager my one day auction Mandela's submarines in the black market o !
.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:14pm On Mar 27, 2015
jln115:

Yes were getting new OPV, IPV,Hydrographic vessel, Torpedos,Transport Aircraft,New Missiles,Upgrading our Valours ect ect

Show us the cash !!!
.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 4:47pm On Mar 27, 2015
MikeCZAR:


These fishing vessels are such a nuisance during live firing exercises.

Some years back one disturbed SA and Germany navy frigates from using their anti-ship missiles to sink a stripped retired strike craft.

Some African navies don't face this cause they never hold live fire exercises.

Just wait for the exercise brief you'll see how that guy was in a area he wasn't supposed to be.

Oh yes we do.

And sure as hell, we don't go about targeting poor fishermen trying to make a living.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 4:51pm On Mar 27, 2015
dragon2:


Considering your navy's penchant for ineptitude, and German efficiency,I wouldn't put by bet on SA NAVY being the saints.

So you confirm that you are basing this on opinion.

Facts are simple - Germans were present and were preparing to run their gunnery drills it was likely them.

And dude, this is just one argument I have. I have an even better one up my sleeves.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 4:52pm On Mar 27, 2015
dragon2:


Ha, at least it ours. Already your acquisitons are getting dated,your frigates are outgunned at range and your Gripens ain't BVR capable, and you haven't yet finished paying. You will need another loan to update them cause you guys can't even get transport acquisitions.

Frigates outgunned? by what?

We are developing a BVR domestically for the Gripen... its the 100km Marlin missile

Transport aquisitions are in the pipeline and have been budgeted for. Upgrades are happening constantly - one of the Frigates was just upgraded now during refit
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 4:58pm On Mar 27, 2015
dragon2:


Considering your navy's penchant for ineptitude, and German efficiency,I wouldn't put by bet on SA NAVY being the saints.

Even more.

3 rounds, yet the inept officers couldn't hit a freaking fishing boat.

I mean, how hard can that be?

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 4:59pm On Mar 27, 2015
agaugust:


Over 10 years now Rangers + SANDF + SF + SAAF have FAILED to wipe out local Rhino poachers reigning supreme on South African homeland soil.

Your Southie record of fighting security threats at home is almost as bad as that of Somalia
.

None of those entities are engaged in AP duties.

They only provide assistance when it falls within the gambit of Operation Corona

The effectiveness of SANDF in securing the borders is glaringly obvious:

Poachers accessing the Kruger National Park from Mozambique are, according to an Army officer, not as big a problem currently as people living on the western side of the internationally renowned game reserve.

Major Sipho Ndlangamandla, acting operations staff officer at the Nelspruit joint operations centre, is reported by Afrikaans daily Beeld as saying fewer poachers are entering Kruger from the eastern national border with Mozambique.

He said since the military was redeployed to the Kruger National Park in 2011 fewer rhino poachers were entering the park from Mozambique.

According to him poaching syndicates infiltrate Kruger from squatter camps and communities, he used the Afrikaans word “nedersettings” meaning settlements, on the park’s western boundary.

“Before the military came back to Kruger in 2011, poaching was almost out of control. We managed to stabilise the eastern boundary with Mozambique,” he told a counter-poaching demonstration arranged for media near Skukuza this week.
-Defenceweb
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 4:59pm On Mar 27, 2015
agaugust:


Debt upon debt in billions of dollars. No money for new OPV, we have always told you....the current OPV bidding process us a mere talk show, seeing your mounting debt level cheesy
.

Stop wasting our time with empty posts
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 5:00pm On Mar 27, 2015
dragon2:

At least the vast part of our Air force and Navy does not belong to banks.
SALOANDF.

EPIC!!!

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 5:00pm On Mar 27, 2015
agaugust:


SAN is collapsing under debt, they will buy NOTHING called new ship until their old debt is paid. Bank manager my one day auction Mandela's submarines in the black market o !
.

And yet the Bidding for OPV's continues and the head of SAN has confirmed their aquisitions

Troll Posts < Reality
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 5:04pm On Mar 27, 2015
agaugust:


Show us the cash !!!
.

Sub-programme 2 (Maritime Combat Capability) received the largest increase of 79.46 per cent in real terms. This increase is in line with identified strategic priorities and is projected to continue over the MTEF period due to the procurement of harbour tug-boats and payments for the replacement of offshore patrol vessels.
http://pmg-assets.s3-website-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/140711pcdefencereport.htm
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 5:05pm On Mar 27, 2015
Henry120:


Even more.

3 rounds, yet the inept officers couldn't hit a freaking fishing boat.

I mean, how hard can that be?

Ask the German navy.

Furthermore, how do you know they were trying to hit it? An unmarked vessel moving at high-speed with its lights off near european vessels in an age of international terrorism - they very well could have been warning shots.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 5:09pm On Mar 27, 2015
patches689:


Where does it say 9 and 9?

It says 18 - this means any combination is possible

When the last numbers were released there were 52 Pilots qualified on the Hawks and waiting for the Gripen

Add to this 22 000 hours budgeted and you see that we are neither broke nor short of skills

Not according to the articles from Defenceweb.

In 2013, the SAAF only had 6 qualified Gripen pilots, who fly a combined total of 120 hours.

So you see, your 6 qualified Gripen pilots aren't even qualified in the true sense.


There can be 10,000 qualified hawk pilots. What is however un-mistaken is you had on 6 qualified(un-qualified) pilots in 2013, and a total 18 Air crew for 26 fighter planes.

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