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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by jpphilips(m): 8:39pm On Apr 08, 2015
lezz:
where art the foolish son?
jpphilips is asking of proof that Libya attacked and tried to annex northern Chad.

jpphilips claims South Africa is the brain child of the AU.

jpphilips claims south Africa supported the Libya TNC during the Libyan civil war.

Jpphilips with a claim of being a political and historical expert have no clue about the ogoni 9 and Mandela calling for sanctions from the west against Nigeria.

Jpphilips needs proof that France who has up to 11 members in the 16member ECOWAS block do not view favourably Nigeria's dominance there.

Maybe I should also supply you proof that we are the most populous nation in Africa.

You have gone down as one of the top 10 disadvantages of nairaland.

You do not qualify to partake in this thread either as an observer or an active participant.

You are part of the bottomless dregs of human society, a clog in the wheel of intellectual debate.

your nairaland sojourn is now marked with mediocrity , political and historical bankruptcy.


You are an imposter and an intellectual fraud.

Your only qualification to this thread is a cheap internet connection and a nairalamd account.


Your mental and social maladjustments will continue to defy adequate explanations by both behavioural scientist and psychiatrists.


@Lezz

Your attempt at replying my post reeks of desperation. Let me quickly add that this scope of international politics is beyond your league. You aren't sound enough so it takes you up to a week to try to level with me by employing half-baked facts backed by little international awarness.
Please international politics isn't your forte.


As someone who knows a lot, I guess this is a promise that you wish to solemnly give us facts and nothing but facts so help you God!!



During the ivory coast presidential issues, ecowas had already asked gbabo to step down and blacklisted his government from ecowas. Military intervention was being discussed on the table.
Southafrica rushed into prove a point out of a desperate need to belong. It's the same way that pathetic country was meddling in Israeli Palestinian issues until she was told to go and play with the likes of Burundi.

ECOWAS actually begged UN security council to sanction Ivory coast, I have that on good authority, any reasonable country will see it as a sign of weakness on a regional power broker, what I don't know is the fallacy in bold, can you prove to this honorable house that ECOWAS blacklisted Ivory coast in 2011? Let me remind you that you claim to know too much as such, to get the evidence won't be a problem, please do not tactically maneuver out of this for any reason whatsoever, it is either you are proving or you are shutting up completely.
I will neither read nor respond to any other gibberish that doesn't have the proof i asked for.




Nigeria wasn't sleeping over the Libyan crisis. I weep for your pathetic sense. You rush to play Mr. Know it all, to teach us what you yourself have not finished understanding. Even a Pharisee has got a better tact than you.
Ghadafi as one of the oldest and wealthiest African leaders has asked for the au to morph into a single country with him as president.
His expantionist agenda is what Nigeria had always kicked against.

Nigeria said they are not interested in a United states of Africa likewise Most successful economies in Africa at the time, SA, Morocco, Egypt Kenya etc, Nigeria never posed a threat to his plan in any visible way, why did Ghadaffi not propose the break up of Egypt, SA, Kenya, morocco and other uninterested African nations?

The USA equally made same prediction, is Ghaddafi the president of the US? instead of fixing culpability where it belongs, you are deluding yourself, have you bothered to find out why two nations with superior intelligence gathering capabilities gave Nigeria a tough verdict?

Nigeria wasn't the only country that rejected Ghaddafi's plan there were other countries, so why was Nigeria the only bulls eye? based on the above facts, Ghadafi's unfortunate prediction had nothing to do with his failed plan, only a beer parlor political analyst will make such naive connection.

To be fair if you believe that Ghaddafi proposed the break up of Nigeria because we refused United states of Africa, table your proof here, you saw how I proved mine, prove yours that same way, keep it concise and brief, any strenuous analogies and unverifiable claims will NOT be read.





I never said Nigeria was meditating in the Libyan crisis. I emphasized that Nigeria officially recognised the tnc, while south Africa was barking ay NATO. Stick to facts not cheap blackmail.

Naa, it was an oversight not a blackmail, you are no where near people I may be tempted to blackmail.



Nigeria had been a power broker in Africa since her independence. Intact it was only in GEJ regime we started looking inwards.
From the 60's Nigeria had sent professionals to southern African countries as judges, teachers doctors etc.

That you exported your professionals because the institutions in your country has collapsed, does it mean you are a power broker?
Majority of our doctors who left for Saudi Arabia in the 80's went to make money because they were earning less in Nigeria nothing more, can you in clear conscience assume that Nigeria is a lord over Saudi Arabia because our doctors took refuge there??

I expect an answer here too.



South Africa isn't the brainchild of AU. It was was ghadafi. YOU ARE AN EMBARRASSMENT.
OAU was formed in 1963 by haile selassie, nkuruma. Letter is was changed to the AU in 1999 just 5years after southafrica got her apartheid cleared into representative governmment. AU is ghadafi's brainchild not southafrica. You eat alot of kpoph-kpoph which has not only killed your sense of shame and patriotism but has made you a desperate fugitive looking for cheap fame by bashing his country in front of her very rivals internationally.

Who was the first chairperson of the AU? one single answer of a name and probably date, any other strenuous crap will not be read.


Bakassi was settled legally by the international court. Nigeria led by example and didn't use her might to swallow Cameroon. You said Chad is liberating Nigerian towns. Well Chad liberated 3 Nigerian town in their own border while Nigerian liberated 43 town in 2 weeks in an erea the size of Belgium.

Nigeria had no intention of handing over Bakassi even after the ICJ verdict, here is my proof;
According to obasanjo's book titled "Presidential legacy" published in 2013 and reviewed by Donald duke whose land was taken had this to say;


“The French President made it clear to us that it has put on alert its military and showed us the entire position of our military and exactly where we were and our daily movements."
http://nationalmirroronline.net/new/bakassi-france-would-have-levelled-nigeria-duke/


Now, you see how i put forward facts to disprove your diplomatic concoction on why we obeyed the ICJ order, we obeyed because a superior fire power who finds it morally right to honor the defence pact she has with cameroon by putting a gun to our head.
After this clear act of cowardice and chicken heart, who does Nigeria have a defence pact with at the time? is that how you want to be a "regional power broker"? Power broker that ordinary Cameroon can muscle away anytime? self delusion is not a crime though, enjoy your buffoonery.

Any time you are not ready to articulate facts the way i am doing it, I will not read it, the proof above is evident that you don't follow the news, after work, you sit with iya basare to take ogogoro and discuss kitchen politics, now tell me, who is an Embarassment?




Also you said Nigeria isn't a threat to Libya, you need to stay away from google and get real education. Libya can't challenge any African country in the north which comprised fellow Arabic countries, so she looked into west Africa and Chad her immediate neighbour came into play, so she attacked and tried to annex Chad. Now Chad is in the lake Chad basin coperstion with Nigeria as well as an ECOWAS country which Nigeria oversees. So how could we not be a threat?

From what you explained though you are too lazy or bereft of any fact to support your claim, I can only deduce that Nigeria was a softer target, a walk in the park rightly put, I don't know the date of the Chadian invasion by Libya, never mind that you are too drunk not to present that, however, if I had the information, I would ascertain their military capabilities by credible ranking, that way, we will know who is really a threat to the other, in the absence of that, both of us are merely speculating and I don't engage in such unintelligent theatrics.



Let me educate you right now, France is uncomfortable with Nigeria's hegemony in west Africa and is on all cylinders to bring division between the aglofone and francofone countries. But you wouldn't know.

Please dont give us half baked education gotten from Oshogbo roofless classrooms, when you say France is uncomfortable with Nigeria's hegemony in Africa, you should be able to prove that with verifiable events. I continue to warn you, this place is not your village meeting where anybody can make any blank statement and feel cool



You said Egypt, Algeria and morocco are white/arabic. NO!!! They are Arabic. While they partake in african affairs passively is because of their interest being situated in Africa. Morocco didn't even have the grace of pretence, she's not member of the AU.

What are they? Green/Jewish? Morocco used to be a member and the rest remained members so what exactly is your point here?


It's not about the skin colour it's way more than that. If you will pause and watch CNN ,you will see that Egypt and co are part of the middle east. The same way Turkey isn't European not just by skin colour but by political, cultural, ideological and world view disposition , then by people and origin. It is so with north Africa, hence the term,sub Saharan Africa.

If you know how much I hate this kai-kai statements you make here, I wish I can extend an e slap to that your gorilla face. I presented to you events in my penultimate post where i itemized clearly why AU is an unserious organisation not suitable for serious countries like Egypt housing the best military in Africa, I went a step further to juxtapose their Arab league campaigns and more complex successes they have achieved, and you have this nonsense!! to reply me?

Where are the facts that support all these speculations, show me in the news, tell me events, for gods sake i am not your dumb wife neither am I your fat girlfriend, talk to me with facts not conjectures, I hate it



You said we are not suppose to get Ebola, blah blah blah. That no screening whatsoever at the airports. Should I remind you late sawyer was a diplomat who came into Nigeria officially? How did Ebola got into mighty USA or even Spain?

Now that you have managed to speak of an event/events, I am obliged to respond, what is the likelihood of Nigeria (in west Africa by the way) to get Ebola compared to the USA? who should have a tougher contingency plan? Nigeria or the USA?

It is only a goat brain like you will liken a scenario where a symptomatic, diarrhea Ebola patient, walks through your biggest international airport unchecked from an Ebola epicenter a few miles from home, with a controlled medevac of a volunteer health worker.
That comparism can only occur in a failed grey matter like yours, if you really think like this, please DO NOT PROCREATE, we dont need a generation of pure r@trads, we are ok! having you alone.




Edited**

Did you notice that you provided no evidence to support everything you wrote, how do you expect me to take you seriously?
It took me a year to reply a dullard, you should be grateful you managed to get my attention.
regional power broker
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by jpphilips(m): 8:40pm On Apr 08, 2015
lezz:
@ jpphilips, another psychological constrained barbarian whose malady has defiled medical interpretation.

No patriot behaves the way that lepros dog does. He can only hide here to claim whatsoever.

@jpphilips, schizophrenic baboon with spit drooling out of his senseless mouth.


@Lezz

Your attempt at replying my post reeks of desperation. Let me quickly add that this scope of international politics is beyond your league. You aren't sound enough so it takes you up to a week to try to level with me by employing half-baked facts backed by little international awarness.
Please international politics isn't your forte.


As someone who knows a lot, I guess this is a promise that you wish to solemnly give us facts and nothing but facts so help you God!!



During the ivory coast presidential issues, ecowas had already asked gbabo to step down and blacklisted his government from ecowas. Military intervention was being discussed on the table.
Southafrica rushed into prove a point out of a desperate need to belong. It's the same way that pathetic country was meddling in Israeli Palestinian issues until she was told to go and play with the likes of Burundi.

ECOWAS actually begged UN security council to sanction Ivory coast, I have that on good authority, any reasonable country will see it as a sign of weakness on a regional power broker, what I don't know is the fallacy in bold, can you prove to this honorable house that ECOWAS blacklisted Ivory coast in 2011? Let me remind you that you claim to know too much as such, to get the evidence won't be a problem, please do not tactically maneuver out of this for any reason whatsoever, it is either you are proving or you are shutting up completely.
I will neither read nor respond to any other gibberish that doesn't have the proof i asked for.




Nigeria wasn't sleeping over the Libyan crisis. I weep for your pathetic sense. You rush to play Mr. Know it all, to teach us what you yourself have not finished understanding. Even a Pharisee has got a better tact than you.
Ghadafi as one of the oldest and wealthiest African leaders has asked for the au to morph into a single country with him as president.
His expantionist agenda is what Nigeria had always kicked against.

Nigeria said they are not interested in a United states of Africa likewise Most successful economies in Africa at the time, SA, Morocco, Egypt Kenya etc, Nigeria never posed a threat to his plan in any visible way, why did Ghadaffi not propose the break up of Egypt, SA, Kenya, morocco and other uninterested African nations?

The USA equally made same prediction, is Ghaddafi the president of the US? instead of fixing culpability where it belongs, you are deluding yourself, have you bothered to find out why two nations with superior intelligence gathering capabilities gave Nigeria a tough verdict?

Nigeria wasn't the only country that rejected Ghaddafi's plan there were other countries, so why was Nigeria the only bulls eye? based on the above facts, Ghadafi's unfortunate prediction had nothing to do with his failed plan, only a beer parlor political analyst will make such naive connection.

To be fair if you believe that Ghaddafi proposed the break up of Nigeria because we refused United states of Africa, table your proof here, you saw how I proved mine, prove yours that same way, keep it concise and brief, any strenuous analogies and unverifiable claims will NOT be read.





I never said Nigeria was meditating in the Libyan crisis. I emphasized that Nigeria officially recognised the tnc, while south Africa was barking ay NATO. Stick to facts not cheap blackmail.

Naa, it was an oversight not a blackmail, you are no where near people I may be tempted to blackmail.



Nigeria had been a power broker in Africa since her independence. Intact it was only in GEJ regime we started looking inwards.
From the 60's Nigeria had sent professionals to southern African countries as judges, teachers doctors etc.

That you exported your professionals because the institutions in your country has collapsed, does it mean you are a power broker?
Majority of our doctors who left for Saudi Arabia in the 80's went to make money because they were earning less in Nigeria nothing more, can you in clear conscience assume that Nigeria is a lord over Saudi Arabia because our doctors took refuge there??

I expect an answer here too.



South Africa isn't the brainchild of AU. It was was ghadafi. YOU ARE AN EMBARRASSMENT.
OAU was formed in 1963 by haile selassie, nkuruma. Letter is was changed to the AU in 1999 just 5years after southafrica got her apartheid cleared into representative governmment. AU is ghadafi's brainchild not southafrica. You eat alot of kpoph-kpoph which has not only killed your sense of shame and patriotism but has made you a desperate fugitive looking for cheap fame by bashing his country in front of her very rivals internationally.

Who was the first chairperson of the AU? one single answer of a name and probably date, any other strenuous crap will not be read.


Bakassi was settled legally by the international court. Nigeria led by example and didn't use her might to swallow Cameroon. You said Chad is liberating Nigerian towns. Well Chad liberated 3 Nigerian town in their own border while Nigerian liberated 43 town in 2 weeks in an erea the size of Belgium.

Nigeria had no intention of handing over Bakassi even after the ICJ verdict, here is my proof;
According to obasanjo's book titled "Presidential legacy" published in 2013 and reviewed by Donald duke whose land was taken had this to say;


“The French President made it clear to us that it has put on alert its military and showed us the entire position of our military and exactly where we were and our daily movements."
http://nationalmirroronline.net/new/bakassi-france-would-have-levelled-nigeria-duke/


Now, you see how i put forward facts to disprove your diplomatic concoction on why we obeyed the ICJ order, we obeyed because a superior fire power who finds it morally right to honor the defence pact she has with cameroon by putting a gun to our head.
After this clear act of cowardice and chicken heart, who does Nigeria have a defence pact with at the time? is that how you want to be a "regional power broker"? Power broker that ordinary Cameroon can muscle away anytime? self delusion is not a crime though, enjoy your buffoonery.

Any time you are not ready to articulate facts the way i am doing it, I will not read it, the proof above is evident that you don't follow the news, after work, you sit with iya basare to take ogogoro and discuss kitchen politics, now tell me, who is an Embarassment?




Also you said Nigeria isn't a threat to Libya, you need to stay away from google and get real education. Libya can't challenge any African country in the north which comprised fellow Arabic countries, so she looked into west Africa and Chad her immediate neighbour came into play, so she attacked and tried to annex Chad. Now Chad is in the lake Chad basin coperstion with Nigeria as well as an ECOWAS country which Nigeria oversees. So how could we not be a threat?

From what you explained though you are too lazy or bereft of any fact to support your claim, I can only deduce that Nigeria was a softer target, a walk in the park rightly put, I don't know the date of the Chadian invasion by Libya, never mind that you are too drunk not to present that, however, if I had the information, I would ascertain their military capabilities by credible ranking, that way, we will know who is really a threat to the other, in the absence of that, both of us are merely speculating and I don't engage in such unintelligent theatrics.



Let me educate you right now, France is uncomfortable with Nigeria's hegemony in west Africa and is on all cylinders to bring division between the aglofone and francofone countries. But you wouldn't know.

Please dont give us half baked education gotten from Oshogbo roofless classrooms, when you say France is uncomfortable with Nigeria's hegemony in Africa, you should be able to prove that with verifiable events. I continue to warn you, this place is not your village meeting where anybody can make any blank statement and feel cool



You said Egypt, Algeria and morocco are white/arabic. NO!!! They are Arabic. While they partake in african affairs passively is because of their interest being situated in Africa. Morocco didn't even have the grace of pretence, she's not member of the AU.

What are they? Green/Jewish? Morocco used to be a member and the rest remained members so what exactly is your point here?


It's not about the skin colour it's way more than that. If you will pause and watch CNN ,you will see that Egypt and co are part of the middle east. The same way Turkey isn't European not just by skin colour but by political, cultural, ideological and world view disposition , then by people and origin. It is so with north Africa, hence the term,sub Saharan Africa.

If you know how much I hate this kai-kai statements you make here, I wish I can extend an e slap to that your gorilla face. I presented to you events in my penultimate post where i itemized clearly why AU is an unserious organisation not suitable for serious countries like Egypt housing the best military in Africa, I went a step further to juxtapose their Arab league campaigns and more complex successes they have achieved, and you have this nonsense!! to reply me?

Where are the facts that support all these speculations, show me in the news, tell me events, for gods sake i am not your dumb wife neither am I your fat girlfriend, talk to me with facts not conjectures, I hate it



You said we are not suppose to get Ebola, blah blah blah. That no screening whatsoever at the airports. Should I remind you late sawyer was a diplomat who came into Nigeria officially? How did Ebola got into mighty USA or even Spain?

Now that you have managed to speak of an event/events, I am obliged to respond, what is the likelihood of Nigeria (in west Africa by the way) to get Ebola compared to the USA? who should have a tougher contingency plan? Nigeria or the USA?

It is only a goat brain like you will liken a scenario where a symptomatic, diarrhea Ebola patient, walks through your biggest international airport unchecked from an Ebola epicenter a few miles from home, with a controlled medevac of a volunteer health worker.
That comparism can only occur in a failed grey matter like yours, if you really think like this, please DO NOT PROCREATE, we dont need a generation of pure r@trads, we are ok! having you alone.




Edited**

Did you notice that you provided no evidence to support everything you wrote, how do you expect me to take you seriously?
It took me a year to reply a dullard, you should be grateful you managed to get my attention.
regional power broker
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 8:41pm On Apr 08, 2015
jln115:

I think you are the blind one! I only saw one wearing Desert camo

Wait, are you using the special computer keyboard made for the blind? The keyboard without screen display monitor, it that what you have been using on Nairaland since last year? Be honest, tell us the truth .

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 8:42pm On Apr 08, 2015
lezz:
we aren't perfect. Far from it but we always get our foreign policy right. right. Read the ISS report.
Who come out on top again?

What policy? Withdrawing troops from sudan and failing to lead ECOWAS during the Malian crises?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 8:51pm On Apr 08, 2015
agaugust:


Wait, are you using the special computer keyboard made for the blind? The keyboard without screen display monitor, it that what you have been using on Nairaland since last year? Be honest, tell us the truth .
Maby you didnt see the photo properly let me post it again:

I see 3 guys in front off the bakkie with Green pullovers(definitely not desert camo) and 1 oak on the cruiser with desert camo, but wearing a black battle jacket thus making his camo useless.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 9:22pm On Apr 08, 2015
MikeCZAR:
Who come out on top again?

What policy? Withdrawing troops from sudan and failing to lead ECOWAS during the Malian crises?
the world always remember Ivory Coast as the south African dabacle especially as your warship sailed way back to Pretoria lonely in a long ride of shame.

Ecowas did what it could and we had military presence there.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 9:29pm On Apr 08, 2015
jpphilips:



@Lezz




As someone who knows a lot, I guess this is a promise that you wish to solemnly give us facts and nothing but facts so help you God!!





ECOWAS actually begged UN security council to sanction Ivory coast, I have that on good authority, any reasonable country will see it as a sign of weakness on a regional power broker, what I don't know is the fallacy in bold, can you prove to this honorable house that ECOWAS blacklisted Ivory coast in 2011? Let me remind you that you claim to know too much as such, to get the evidence won't be a problem, please do not tactically maneuver out of this for any reason whatsoever, it is either you are proving or you are shutting up completely.
I will neither read nor respond to any other gibberish that doesn't have the proof i asked for.






Nigeria said they are not interested in a United states of Africa likewise Most successful economies in Africa at the time, SA, Morocco, Egypt Kenya etc, Nigeria never posed a threat to his plan in any visible way, why did Ghadaffi not propose the break up of Egypt, SA, Kenya, morocco and other uninterested African nations?

The USA equally made same prediction, is Ghaddafi the president of the US? instead of fixing culpability where it belongs, you are deluding yourself, have you bothered to find out why two nations with superior intelligence gathering capabilities gave Nigeria a tough verdict?

Nigeria wasn't the only country that rejected Ghaddafi's plan there were other countries, so why was Nigeria the only bulls eye? based on the above facts, Ghadafi's unfortunate prediction had nothing to do with his failed plan, only a beer parlor political analyst will make such naive connection.

To be fair if you believe that Ghaddafi proposed the break up of Nigeria because we refused United states of Africa, table your proof here, you saw how I proved mine, prove yours that same way, keep it concise and brief, any strenuous analogies and unverifiable claims will NOT be read.







Naa, it was an oversight not a blackmail, you are no where near people I may be tempted to blackmail.





That you exported your professionals because the institutions in your country has collapsed, does it mean you are a power broker?
Majority of our doctors who left for Saudi Arabia in the 80's went to make money because they were earning less in Nigeria nothing more, can you in clear conscience assume that Nigeria is a lord over Saudi Arabia because our doctors took refuge there??

I expect an answer here too.





Who was the first chairperson of the AU? one single answer of a name and probably date, any other strenuous crap will not be read.




Nigeria had no intention of handing over Bakassi even after the ICJ verdict, here is my proof;
According to obasanjo's book titled "Presidential legacy" published in 2013 and reviewed by Donald duke whose land was taken had this to say;




Now, you see how i put forward facts to disprove your diplomatic concoction on why we obeyed the ICJ order, we obeyed because a superior fire power who finds it morally right to honor the defence pact she has with cameroon by putting a gun to our head.
After this clear act of cowardice and chicken heart, who does Nigeria have a defence pact with at the time? is that how you want to be a "regional power broker"? Power broker that ordinary Cameroon can muscle away anytime? self delusion is not a crime though, enjoy your buffoonery.

Any time you are not ready to articulate facts the way i am doing it, I will not read it, the proof above is evident that you don't follow the news, after work, you sit with iya basare to take ogogoro and discuss kitchen politics, now tell me, who is an Embarassment?






From what you explained though you are too lazy or bereft of any fact to support your claim, I can only deduce that Nigeria was a softer target, a walk in the park rightly put, I don't know the date of the Chadian invasion by Libya, never mind that you are too drunk not to present that, however, if I had the information, I would ascertain their military capabilities by credible ranking, that way, we will know who is really a threat to the other, in the absence of that, both of us are merely speculating and I don't engage in such unintelligent theatrics.





Please dont give us half baked education gotten from Oshogbo roofless classrooms, when you say France is uncomfortable with Nigeria's hegemony in Africa, you should be able to prove that with verifiable events. I continue to warn you, this place is not your village meeting where anybody can make any blank statement and feel cool





What are they? Green/Jewish? Morocco used to be a member and the rest remained members so what exactly is your point here?




If you know how much I hate this kai-kai statements you make here, I wish I can extend an e slap to that your gorilla face. I presented to you events in my penultimate post where i itemized clearly why AU is an unserious organisation not suitable for serious countries like Egypt housing the best military in Africa, I went a step further to juxtapose their Arab league campaigns and more complex successes they have achieved, and you have this nonsense!! to reply me?

Where are the facts that support all these speculations, show me in the news, tell me events, for gods sake i am not your dumb wife neither am I your fat girlfriend, talk to me with facts not conjectures, I hate it





Now that you have managed to speak of an event/events, I am obliged to respond, what is the likelihood of Nigeria (in west Africa by the way) to get Ebola compared to the USA? who should have a tougher contingency plan? Nigeria or the USA?

It is only a goat brain like you will liken a scenario where a symptomatic, diarrhea Ebola patient, walks through your biggest international airport unchecked from an Ebola epicenter a few miles from home, with a controlled medevac of a volunteer health worker.
That comparism can only occur in a failed grey matter like yours, if you really think like this, please DO NOT PROCREATE, we dont need a generation of pure r@trads, we are ok! having you alone.




Edited**

Did you notice that you provided no evidence to support everything you wrote, how do you expect me to take you seriously?
It took me a year to reply a dullard, you should be grateful you managed to get my attention.
regional power broker
who woke this internet Lazarus from the dead?

Events have overtaken you, my boy. When this issue was being delt with, you were loitering around looking for internet subscription money.

How else would you explain taking this long to respond? Maybe my statements had you enrolling in a crash course in political history.

And don't you ever recycle old posts to me again. Sawdust brain.


You better adjust to being exposed and swept aside when you present emotional wishes as fact.

You also lack spontaneity and quick improvisation to carry on a free flowing internet debate. You really are slow upstairs.

You are disqualified.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 9:49pm On Apr 08, 2015
jpphilips:



Did I hear you mention facts? lol you actually got schooled, continue decieving them, The citizens of Nigeria have spoken with their votes in one voice & removed their incompetent president and you are here telling the Southies you can defend the indefensible.

Buhahaaha, are you related to Doyin Okupe or the Mangroove mouth Fani Kayode?
what's my post got to do with president Jonathan or Buhari?

You can't even present questions in a logically arranged and neat pattern. You quoted me with a long prose of narrative weepings and lamentations.

I poked you out for days with several post and you were hiding in your wretched quest for internet data subscription .

You're not only wretched monetarily, you are one disorganized, incoherent, psuedo-illiterate who takes weeks to respond to an internet whooping.

And you think you have earned the right to turn us back in derailment. You are a disgrace to yourself and whatever surname that you bear.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 10:35pm On Apr 08, 2015
jln115:

Maby you didnt see the photo properly let me post it again:

I see 3 guys in front off the bakkie with Green pullovers(definitely not desert camo) and 1 oak on the cruiser with desert camo, but wearing a black battle jacket thus making his camo useless.

Are you sure you are a white man? I know Soweto whites to be smarter in head than Soweto blacks/coloureds.

We are arguing about camo, 3 men wearing desert camo in that your photo, you ignore the camo we are talking about and say 2 of them have green pull over sweaters on top of their desert camo. If they pull off their sweaters what is their real uniform? Camo, desert camo !

What kinda Dundee white guy are you? gringrin
.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 10:38pm On Apr 08, 2015
jln115:

'3 C-130's'
We have 9 mate!!

Boy, you are living in denial.

You have only 3 C-130's in service. you think you have 9, yet the SANDF has to always depend on charter for 90% of all foreign deployments?

Wake up from your hallucinations. Last i read 5 C-130's are mothballed over lack of funds, as is the norm in South-Africa.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by bidexiii: 10:46pm On Apr 08, 2015
jln115:

Maby you didnt see the photo properly let me post it again:

I see 3 guys in front off the bakkie with Green pullovers(definitely not desert camo) and 1 oak on the cruiser with desert camo, but wearing a black battle jacket thus making his camo useless.
That does not affect fighting I guess you watch too much movies. But here are some pictures to prove critics wrong !

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 10:47pm On Apr 08, 2015
jln115:

Firstly how do i know they are in Afghanistan?

And secondly they are in different units:
The SANDF also has different uniforms for different units:

1.MRS
2.SF(in Green)
3.STF

Even the virtually non-existent Somali Navy has a blue camo.

The South-African Army only has 1 camo pattern, what this means is, in the many other types of terrains around the world, your troops would stand out and get picked out like fire-flies.

Your STF is a Police unit.
Blue camo, every nation with a navy has that.
The individual who picked green for your S.F should be shot, Stalin style, what a r3tard.

How do you deploy troops in Green in a desert terrain, how would that work out?

I showed you U.S troops in combat with mis-matched Camo.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 10:50pm On Apr 08, 2015
jln115:

"MRS is South African navy NOT army....fool gringrin"
I know!Is our Navy not part of the SANDF?

"Send your SAN navy men with dark blue uniforms into war in Sahara desert and all of them will return home in body bags gringrin"
Why would our navy be in the Sahara?Do you even remember what me and @Henry120 were originally discussing about?

U.S Navy seals
Nigerian Navy SBS
MARSOC
SAS
SASR

All units from the Navy conduct operations in the desert. This is how a proper military operates.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 10:52pm On Apr 08, 2015
jln115:

Then why did Iran ask for our assistance with there nuclear program?

"I'm sure they did. They came along with kim jon un and the rest of the N.K/Iran axis of evil".
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by bidexiii: 10:53pm On Apr 08, 2015
These pictures are enough to show that NA do where the same camouflage ,but in a situation where over 30,000 men are drawn all over the country from defferent corps and terrain are just injected into the war front,you find out its not easy! 30,000 men its almost the size of SA army, that's just in the north-east!

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 10:53pm On Apr 08, 2015
MikeCZAR:
Possible, but it will take some time.

Even in 200 years time, you still cannot.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 10:56pm On Apr 08, 2015
MikeCZAR:
Who come out on top again?

What policy? Withdrawing troops from sudan and failing to lead ECOWAS during the Malian crises?

Do you read world news at all ?

Nigeria was the first country in the world to land an army in Sudan Dafur, Nigerian soldiers stopped the Sudanese supporter of APC militia from continuous mass räpe and murder of black Sudanese girls and women .

Other countries were watching the Arab on Black genocide and did NOTHING to stop it, until Nigeria forced the UN to mandate our gallant troops to fight in Sudan and we lost almost a platoon of troops in a night attack on our camp by supporter of APC militia during our peace enforcement mission.

Where was South Africa when no country wanted to stop the genocide in Dafur?

ECOWAS was led by Nigeria to deploy troops in Mali, but the new Malian military government refused Nigeria's offer of help, they chose France instead. We had to wait and observe. France then called in Nigerian army to deploy in recce and garrison role in Mali.

Nigeria did it's part well in Mali and Sudan.

South Africa refused to save the people of C.A.R from the hands of Seleka rebels, all because SANDF saw 15 coffins of parabats and refused to ever return to Bangui and save their helpless and weak African brothers and sisters suffering there.

It's a dark history of betrayal that cannot be erased from South African military history.

Cowards for ever !!!
.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 10:58pm On Apr 08, 2015
NaijaPikinGidi:


Chief Henry, you don over provoke!! grin grin grin (For once make I shine teeth small)

Lol........... Where that mumu @Ukempt?

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:03pm On Apr 08, 2015
agaugust:


Oga Henry, thanks for the photo. I was telling those Soweto mumus, for a balanced army that has different types of camo uniforms, if you draw a force from different terrain regiments, you will see different types of uniforms on the same combat teams. Your photo also kïlls @Patches false claims that America has only one type of army uniform....hilarious....these Southies are getting their SANDF uniforms and poor kit torn apart on Nairaland today.

They have been insulting Nigerian army kit and uniforms for many years, but today Nigerians come vex burst South Africa's over inflated bubble....(((((( BOOM ))))))

.

The South-Africans do not understand the concept of terrain. That's why they have not even a single amphibious/tracked vehicle in service.

Poorly thought out doctrine for an Army flowing with endless ineptitude.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 11:04pm On Apr 08, 2015
lezz:
the world always remember Mali as the south African dabacle especially as your warship sailed way back to Pretoria lonely in a long ride of shame.

You mean Ivory Coast crisis?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 11:05pm On Apr 08, 2015
lezz:
the world always remember Mali as the south African dabacle especially as your warship sailed way back to Pretoria lonely in a long ride of shame.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:17pm On Apr 08, 2015
EVarn:
lol.So apparently,you are an 'ultimate specimen' forged by the convergence of all the western bloodlines,embodied in one single being?.
Great!,that actually sounds like a cliche vampire story.I only need to gobble down a few goblets of your blood to make me half european,half african but stronger than both.
Well i never said i was a ultimate specimen bro!! although i like to think so time to time!!
My ancestry is common in all Afrikaners,making me no more or less special than any one?

"I only need to gobble down a few goblets of your blood to make me half european,half african but stronger than both"
Well you going to have to find someone ells, im not into that kinky sh;t(Like that 50 shades of grey oak!!)
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:19pm On Apr 08, 2015
Henry120:


"I'm sure they did. They came along with kim jon un and the rest of the N.K/Iran axis of evil".

"Mbeki and Rouhani
The intelligence profile also reveals that Iran approached South Africa's leadership in search of a workaround for international sanctions imposed by Western powers. It cites "a covert source" who claims that on two occasions, then-President Thabo Mbeki had met with senior Iranian officials requesting help with their nuclear programme."

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/02/spy-cables-south-africa-spies-iran-operations-guardian-ssa-tehran-undercover-carpet--150219184023503.html
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:23pm On Apr 08, 2015
agaugust:


Are you sure you are a white man? I know Soweto whites to be smarter in head than Soweto blacks/coloureds.

We are arguing about camo, 3 men wearing desert camo in that your photo, you ignore the camo we are talking about and say 2 of them have green pull over sweaters on top of their desert camo. If they pull off their sweaters what is their real uniform? Camo, desert camo !

What kinda Dundee white guy are you? gringrin
.
So why are they wearing sweaters that compromise there camo?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 11:26pm On Apr 08, 2015
agaugust:


You mean Ivory Coast crisis?
yes ivory Coast. Your historical precision is spot on.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 11:31pm On Apr 08, 2015
jln115:

So why are they wearing sweaters that compromise there camo?

They could be mounted troops confined to that armored vehicle. Also as a half northern Nigerian I can confidently tell you that its seasonally very cold between 7 pm to 7 am in the region, if those guys are going to fight during that time, its mostly dark and green sweater is safe. They can remove it if daytime duty calls and they need to dismount from that APC
.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:42pm On Apr 08, 2015
Henry120:


Even the virtually non-existent Somali Navy has a blue camo.

The South-African Army only has 1 camo pattern, what this means is, in the many other types of terrains around the world, your troops would stand out and get picked out like fire-flies.

Your STF is a Police unit.
Blue camo, every nation with a navy has that.
The individual who picked green for your S.F should be shot, Stalin style, what a r3tard.

How do you deploy troops in Green in a desert terrain, how would that work out?

I showed you U.S troops in combat with mis-matched Camo.
Dude!!Did you even read @Agaugust post i was responding too?He said no SANDF unit has blue uniform/camo?I know almost all navies have blue uniforms!!I was just pointing out were he had f@cked up!!

"Your STF is a Police unit"
I have posted fact and pics about them multiple times, the reason i included them was becuase they receive the same basic training as our SFs and have worked along side our Defence Force on multiple occasions like in Lesotho.


"The South-African Army only has 1 camo pattern, what this means is, in the many other types of terrains around the world, your troops would stand out and get picked out like fire-flies."
We are never going to deploy anywhere but Sub Sahara Africa, thus the Soldier2000 camo had gone threw years of development for the sole purpose of being effictive in all Sub Saharan terrain.


"How do you deploy troops in Green in a desert terrain, how would that work out?"
Go ask your troops in the NE!

"I showed you U.S troops in combat with mis-matched Camo."
Firstly how do i know they are in combat and not in a training exercise,Secondly I only see two different Camo patterns as they could be in different units,I dont see 10 like your soldiers.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 11:44pm On Apr 08, 2015
jln115:

Well i never said i was a ultimate specimen bro!! although i like to think so time to time!!
My ancestry is common in all Afrikaners,making me no more or less special than any one?
lol,a person who possesses the blood of 4 major european bloodlines is bound to pique the intrigue of any cynical commentator,perhaps you are a kind of human key that has the map of a long lost mythical treasure island genetical encoded within your DNA..hehehehe...anyway,i was just kidding,we are all of mixed ancestry one way or another.
jln115:
Well you going to have to find someone ells, im not into that kinky sh;t(Like that 50 shades of grey oak!!)
eh....relax mate,no one is sucking you dry. grin grin
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:48pm On Apr 08, 2015
agaugust:


They could be mounted troops confined to that armored vehicle. Also as a half northern Nigerian I can confidently tell you that its seasonally very cold between 7 pm to 7 am in the region, if those guys are going to fight during that time, its mostly dark and green sweater is safe. They can remove it if daytime duty calls and they need to dismount from that APC
.
Firstly its not an APC, it just a Land Cruiser,

"I can confidently tell you that its seasonally very cold between 7 pm to 7 am in the region,"
So they dont have a standard jacket that matches their uniform like the SANDF?

"They can remove it if daytime duty calls and they need to dismount from that APC"
If the enemy sees you then its to late!!Now if they had a standard jacket that wouldve not been a problem.
And BTW its daytime!
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:50pm On Apr 08, 2015
EVarn:
lol,a person who possesses the blood of 4 major european bloodlines is bound to pique the intrigue of any cynical commentator,perhaps you are a kind of human key that has the map of a long lost mythical treasure island genetical encoded within your DNA..hehehehe...anyway,i was just kidding,we are all of mixed ancestry one way or another.
eh....relax mate,no one is sucking you dry. grin grin
"i was just kidding,we are all of mixed ancestry one way or another."
hahahahahaha i now mate!!
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 12:02am On Apr 09, 2015
jln115:

Firstly its not an APC, it just a Land Cruiser,

"I can confidently tell you that its seasonally very cold between 7 pm to 7 am in the region,"
So they dont have a standard jacket that matches their uniform like the SANDF?

"They can remove it if daytime duty calls and they need to dismount from that APC"
If the enemy sees you then its to late!!Now if they had a standard jacket that wouldve not been a problem.
And BTW its daytime!

SANDF has a small 50,000 man army with only one type of camo , so one sweater or jacket is easy. Try raise a large 130,000 man army like Nigeria and 3 different camos plus 3 different sweaters then multiply the money cost of production.

The 4 guys in the photo are not fighting at that time, they were posing for leisure photos likely inside their base, they even removed their helmets, the way you have obviously removed your brain and I have to do your thinking for you
.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 12:06am On Apr 09, 2015
Henry120:


U.S Navy seals
Nigerian Navy SBS
MARSOC
SAS
SASR

All units from the Navy conduct operations in the desert. This is how a proper military operates.
All of the above are SFs and are equal to our SFs regarding the operations they conduct!
Also our SFs have their standard Soldier2000 camo they received when they first joined the SANDF before they were selected for the SFs regiment.They are also trained for Land and Sea operations and thus are more or less the same in terms of the operations they conduct to the Navy Seals,were as the Brits have a separate SBS that conduct Sea operations.


They are also issued different camo depending on the requirement of their mission, for example dessert camo for operations in SWA during the Border War.

Our MRS are strictly for Maritime operations and nothing else, they are basically trained for anti piracy operations, they are however parachute trained and can preform other missions if needed!

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