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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 7:57pm On Apr 14, 2015 |
agaugust:So where does Nigeria stand since your air force has never fired a missile in air to air combat. An act of war? You said threat not an act of war. Always shifting goal posts. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 8:32pm On Apr 14, 2015 |
MikeCZAR: Where does South Africa stand since your pilots have NEVER fired a missile in real combat or combat training against another air force, with your Gripen jets? Nigerian air force has fired PL-9C training missiles against Pakistani air force pilots in combat dogfight training. South Africa does not even have IRIS-T training missile versions. The last air war you fought was with ancient 1970s Mirage jets having obsolete radars and missiles, you lost the war to Cuba's teenage MiG-23 pilots and after the little boys shot down SAAF pilots, your air force retreated to park all jets inside hanger on the air base grounds. You want to boast about an air war you lost to Cuban kid pilots that had zero war experience ![]() ![]() . 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 8:48pm On Apr 14, 2015 |
agaugust: SA pilots have fired many missiles from gripens during combat training and A-darter missile testing exercises. SADF was just on the verge of using nuclear weapons in Angola which could have caused more catastrophe to be talked about for many centuries, but the US came in rescue to facilitate the talks instead. 1 Like
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 9:07pm On Apr 14, 2015 |
Msauza: If South Africa drops one nuclear bomb on Cubans in Angola, Soviet Union will reply with ten nuclear bombs on Pretoria, your country will be deleted from world map that day o ! War history records Cuban boys with zero war experience shot down several South African Mirage jets, but SAAF failed to shoot down any MiG-23....they forced you to ground your air force for the rest of the war in air superiority role. A-Darter missile test was just to test the missile NOT a jet aircraft combat training exercise. There was no role playing enemy aircraft to challenge the Gripen jet in mock combat, the opponent was a 950 km/h slow snail speed drone that the Gripen was targeting with your fvcking short range A-Darter missile.....fvcking sub standard test. Now show us the IRIS-T training missile versions used by SAAF to train Gripen jet pilots in air combat against another air force.....or you think Operation Lion Effort will allow you fire live IRIS-T missile armed version with warhead against another country's pilot? You just a fvcking joker like John Okafor in Nollywood ![]() ![]() ![]() . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 9:58pm On Apr 14, 2015 |
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 10:06pm On Apr 14, 2015 |
agaugust: Thanks for admitting that the Soviet Union were giving Cubans military support including deploying more than 20 000 soldiers. Soviet flew Cuban sorties under pretext that they were Cuban pilots. SADF blew Russian made MIGs on air to air combat and if you want that I can give it to you. You seem to know little about the bush war because you don't exercise your objectivity, man you are always partial. Cuba failed to win SA even when they were helped by more than 400 000 Angolan soldiers and 20000 soviet troops, it could not defeat SADF but only held them to a stalemate. With regard to A darter testing, Denel has special type of fast drones they use as targets. They are very difficult targets to take out and very smaller than a jet. live missile is used to shoot at them. The bottom line is SAAF gripen pilots have experienced the feeling of firing missiles as compared to their Nigerian counterparts who have never shot a missile in their entire military career. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 10:21pm On Apr 14, 2015 |
Msauza: Nope, quote where I admitted all those your lies that cannot be found in authentic war history records. You only fabricated your own false information and typed it in your laptop keyboard. All I said was that if South Africa dropped nuclear bomb on Cubans in Angola, the Soviet Union will drop ten times more nuclear bombs on South Africa. Same thing will happen if USSR strikes first with nukes on South Africa, the Americans will defend South Africa by dropping nukes on Cuba . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 10:25pm On Apr 14, 2015 |
agaugust: If South Africa drops one nuclear bomb on Cubans in Angola, Soviet Union will reply with ten nuclear bombs on Pretoria That is what you said. Tell me it seems as if you know something about the secret military assistance of Russian troops to Cuba. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 10:30pm On Apr 14, 2015 |
USSR lost about 54 men in Angola http://english.pravda.ru/russia/politics/15-02-2011/116909-soviet_union_foreign_wars-0/ |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 10:34pm On Apr 14, 2015 |
Msauza: American CIA and British military mercenaries were fighting along side SADF in Angola to help you stop Cuba from marching straight into Pretoria . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 10:36pm On Apr 14, 2015 |
CUBA and ANGOLA could have lost the battle if there was no Soviet Union military involvement in the war including soviet arms supply. In that war many Cuban died such that the.body bags which were transported to CUBA were very devastating. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 10:41pm On Apr 14, 2015 |
agaugust: LIES!! LIES!! LIES!! SA has many British born South Africans who served in the colours of SADF. CUBA could not even dare try to cross the artillery line of SADF built with the best guns G5&6 in the world during then, not even the Soviet would have tried it. The wall was further reinforced with long range SAMs and Air defence guns. No one, not even America could have crossed that wall. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 11:03pm On Apr 14, 2015 |
The story about SA mercenaries in Nigeria in full details. http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/14/south-africas-ageing-white-mercenaries-who-helped-turn-tide-on-boko-haram |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 12:22am On Apr 15, 2015 |
agaugust: Why do you get so emotional? Is it because Nigeria has never ever fought an air war against jets? Because no Nigerian pilot has ever shot down an enemy plane? 2 Likes
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 12:24am On Apr 15, 2015 |
agaugust: Sorry, what did you say? 1 Like
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 12:25am On Apr 15, 2015 |
agaugust: Yes, that is called MAD and that is why Russia would not nuke South Africa if we deployed tactical nukes against Cuban troops |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 12:25am On Apr 15, 2015 |
agaugust: Because you say so? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:12am On Apr 15, 2015 |
Patchesagain: Nope, because war history says so ! The South African SADF 32 battalion primarily consisted of black Angolan soldiers and non-commissioned officers (NCOs) led by whites of the “old” RSA Empire officers and NCOs, although there was also a number of officers from countries, especially in its early stages, such as: the United Kingdom, Rhodesia, Portugal, United States, and Italy. http://www.volkstaat.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=510:32nd-battalion-rsa-south-africa&catid=108:rsa-southern-african-empire&Itemid=173 . 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:20am On Apr 15, 2015 |
Patchesagain: NAF had about over 30 MiG jets in Biafra war, the enemy saw our new air power and withdrew their air force. There is NO RECORD of SAAF jet pilots sho.oting down any MiG-23 jet of Cuba in air to air combat, South Africa was d.emolished by Cuba in air to air combat ![]() ![]() Your photo below is that of a 'UFO' unidentified flying object from the bush war. We have proved this over and over again, lets stop dragging this forum backwards like kids . 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:21am On Apr 15, 2015 |
Msauza: Msauza: The South African SADF 32 battalion primarily consisted of black Angolan soldiers and non-commissioned officers (NCOs) led by whites of the “old” RSA Empire officers and NCOs, although there was also a number of officers from countries, especially in its early stages, such as: the United Kingdom, Rhodesia, Portugal, United States, and Italy. http://www.volkstaat.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=510:32nd-battalion-rsa-south-africa&catid=108:rsa-southern-african-empire&Itemid=173 . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Centrifude(m): 2:01am On Apr 15, 2015 |
L☹L! So it turns out that the Germans are the ones who can't Shoot straight Huh?! 3 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 4:21am On Apr 15, 2015 |
agaugust: SADF never used mercenaries, all people who fought in that war had direct interest and were never contractors. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 4:25am On Apr 15, 2015 |
agaugust: One battalion out of an army of 500 000 850 men out a deployment of 20 000 Led and trained by South Africans What do you think you are proving? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 4:27am On Apr 15, 2015 |
agaugust: Biafra had an airforce consiting of civilian cessnas I have photographic evidence of Mig21s being shot down and i have posted the name and rank of the pilot responsible for the shoot downs It is you whom is behaving like a kid |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Centrifude(m): 5:58am On Apr 15, 2015 |
Msauza: Yep they were Foreign Volunteers who joined the SADF and not just random guns for hire. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Centrifude(m): 6:25am On Apr 15, 2015 |
MikeCZAR: Nope I'm definitely sure he said C.A.R, Intelligence operatives are always included in almost every SANDF deployment. the guy told us that CAR was actually a U.N screw up, because when his team detected ±10 000 fighters armed with Aks moving towards the city, he sent a live stream from his Thales Binoculars to UN HQ, and they somehow dismissed it as nothing more than Civilian Carrying, and they Ordered him not to engage. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 7:37am On Apr 15, 2015 |
agaugust:NAF pilots never flew against enemy pilots. Your master Pakistan who always gets a beating from India still operate Mirage jets. I can you desperately trying the change the goalposts. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 7:44am On Apr 15, 2015 |
Centrifude:No, UN was not involved there. The SA forces were under SANDF control the mission HQ was in PTA. By operatives I meant the scouts the guys who field Cytoon. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 7:51am On Apr 15, 2015 |
agaugust:They joined the SADF like your source is saying "at the early stages". Just like how there are South Africans serving in New Zealand, Israel etc armies. 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 10:55am On Apr 15, 2015 |
Nigeria make use of SA mercenaries to defeat Boko Haram. http://www.demanjo.com/news/world/807726/nigeria-taps-south-african-mercenaries-in-fight-against-boko-haram.html |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by NaijaPikinGidi: 11:12am On Apr 15, 2015 |
andrewza: It's a guess when you use the word PROBABLY. It's guess when you have not backed your claim with factual evidence to support your personal opinion! Keep guessing ... as long as it keeps your pots cooking! ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 11:18am On Apr 15, 2015 |
agaugust: Number of soviet pilots who perished in company of their MIGs in Angola. http://www.mercenary-wars.net/angola/angola-86-89/russian-downed-pilots.html |
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