FighterPilot:
Nigeria has only three F7 pilots and I don't know why we should be stretching this argument for too long.

There is NO history, source or record of F-7 jet pilots shortage in Nigeria, so citation needed for the 3 F-7 pilots fairy tale
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stillchris:


and our airforce sent target cordinates from ATR 42 to artillery units on ground during surveillance on boki haram positions through whatsapp?

keep decieving yourself

They think the ATR-42 in-built data-link is for interior decoration
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stillchris:


altgough i doubt the story as reporters will want to make a meal of the whole incidence, what else would you expect.

arresting bashir would have sparked confrontations between both countries. militarily or diplomatic

and many african governments will be against SA on this one because it will amount to discrediting the AU.

your government still doesn't understand International politics

Beside all the threats and intimidations, do you think ANC is that stupid to sell their souls to imperialists like ICC.

agaugust:


They think the ATR-42 in-built data-link is for interior decoration
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Only there to communicate with the system partially and not together with other platforms.

agaugust:


There is NO history, source or record of F-7 jet pilots shortage in Nigeria, so citation needed for the 3 F-7 pilots fairy tale
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You boast only 3 F7 pilots chief.

FighterPilot:
[size=20]STILLCHRIS AND COHORTS DO NOT KNOW WHAT IS A TACTICAL DATA LINK. CAN SOMEONE TEACH THESE FOOLS HERE WHAT IS A TACTICAL DATA LINK[/size]

dullard.

i can bet my last cent that you don't even know what it is. just the word "Tactical" amuses you south africans.

If a data link standard in order to provide communication via
radio waves or cable used the military to transmit, relay and receive tactical data is not TDL,

then tell me what Nigerian Navy uses to transmit data from the ATR to navan vessels.

Or from naval control stations to naval vessels.

Or from combat areas in maiduguri to DHQ in Abuja

Or from our surveillance platforms to commanders on ground.

I can go on and on on instances it has been used.

You south Africans are just shouting TDL as if it's a technology beyond any nation's reach.

The real fraud is SANDF. No evidence of operational usage of data link. Just on paper

I hope this free education has helped you dumb he-goat.

FighterPilot:



Beside all the threats and intimidations, do you think ANC is that stupid to sell their souls to imperialists like ICC.

Dullard.

Your government almost did.

Bashir was just smart to know that SA government is a toothless bulldog.

So he defied your court order

stillchris:


altgough i doubt the story as reporters will want to make a meal of the whole incidence, what else would you expect.

arresting bashir would have sparked confrontations between both countries. militarily or diplomatic

and many african governments will be against SA on this one because it will amount to discrediting the AU.

your government still doesn't understand International politics

You dont understand what happened if you think it was our government that was trying to arrest him

It was the people of South Africa who wanted him arrested

The people (in this case an NGO of sorts) approached the courts in order to get an interdict against the government to prevent him leaving - an interdict that the courts awarded

The government was sitting on the fence - on the one hand the people his arrest - buoyed with a legally binding order to hold him and on the other the AU is fighting to have the ICC discredited.

What can you do in such a situation?

Fact remains, the people of South Africa have spoken: we will not tolerate war-criminals in our lands.

agaugust:


Okay, you agree that ATR-42 radar is not Sea Spray ?

You surrender? Say yes boss, South Africa surrenders to Nigeria, then we can go forward from there...
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I dont care about sea-spray

I care about your supposed citations, now post them

agaugust:


Citation needed now !
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Show us more than 2 F-7 in the air

agaugust:


There is NO history, source or record of F-7 jet pilots shortage in Nigeria, so citation needed for the 3 F-7 pilots fairy tale
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also no pictures of more than 3 in the air at any one time

FighterPilot:


@Stillchris it is only SA in Africa that has a dedicated tactical data link.

Your tactical data-link has not connected your security forces together and help them defeat local Rhino poachers.

Botswana that is helping you save your Rhinos has no tactical data-link .

So how effective is your data-link in operation, not on paper, what have you achieved with it dealing with a moving target in Kruger park ?


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agaugust:


[s]Your tactical data-link has not connected your security forces together and help them defeat local Rhino poachers.

Botswana that is helping you save your Rhinos has no tactical data-link .

So how effective is your data-link in operation, not on paper, what have you achieved with it dealing with a moving target in Kruger park ?[/s]


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Strawman argument detected.

SANDF is not deployed on AP duties, never has been, never will be. It only provides support when poaching is from across the border

stillchris:


dullard.

i can bet my last cent that you don't even know what it is. just the word "Tactical" amuses you south africans.

If a data link standard in order to provide communication via
radio waves or cable used the military to transmit, relay and receive tactical data is not TDL,

then tell me what Nigerian Navy uses to transmit data from the ATR to navan vessels.

Or from naval control stations to naval vessels.

Or from combat areas in maiduguri to DHQ in Abuja

Or from our surveillance platforms to commanders on ground.

I can go on and on on instances it has been used.

You south Africans are just shouting TDL as if it's a technology beyond any nation's reach.

The real fraud is SANDF. No evidence of operational usage of data link. Just on paper

I hope this free education has helped you dumb he-goat.

Double punch....teeth remover
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stillchris:


dullard.

i can bet my last cent that you don't even know what it is. just the word "Tactical" amuses you south africans.

If a data link standard in order to provide communication via
radio waves or cable used the military to transmit, relay and receive tactical data is not TDL,

then tell me what Nigerian Navy uses to transmit data from the ATR to navan vessels.

Or from naval control stations to naval vessels.

Or from combat areas in maiduguri to DHQ in Abuja

Or from our surveillance platforms to commanders on ground.

I can go on and on on instances it has been used.

You south Africans are just shouting TDL as if it's a technology beyond any nation's reach.

The real fraud is SANDF. No evidence of operational usage of data link. Just on paper

I hope this free education has helped you dumb he-goat.

You tell us, name your data-link.

Simple "strands" of data between assets are not a organization wide data-link.

agaugust:


Your tactical data-link has not connected your security forces together and help them defeat local Rhino poachers.

Botswana that is helping you save your Rhinos has no tactical data-link .

So how effective is your data-link in operation, not on paper, what have you achieved with it dealing with a moving target in Kruger park ?


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Military tactical data link is for exclusive military use. It is not used by anti-Rhino square nor the police. Thank you.

Your ATR42 is for exclusive military use assigned to defeat BH, but it is still yet to defeat BH
What a million dollar waste.

Patchesagain:



also no pictures of more than 3 in the air at any one time

Since when did the number of flying jets together become the means of knowing which air force has shortage of pilots?

Show us photo of 11 Algerian Su-30 Flanker jets in the air at the same time to prove they don't have shortage of pilots
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stillchris:


dullard.

i can bet my last cent that you don't even know what it is. just the word "Tactical" amuses you south africans.

If a data link standard in order to provide communication via
radio waves or cable used the military to transmit, relay and receive tactical data is not TDL,

then tell me what Nigerian Navy uses to transmit data from the ATR to navan vessels.

Or from naval control stations to naval vessels.

Or from combat areas in maiduguri to DHQ in Abuja

Or from our surveillance platforms to commanders on ground.

I can go on and on on instances it has been used.

You south Africans are just shouting TDL as if it's a technology beyond any nation's reach.

The real fraud is SANDF. No evidence of operational usage of data link. Just on paper

I hope this free education has helped you dumb he-goat.

You use nothing because you don't have a tactical data link. Your ships cannot see anything. In fact with tactical data link everyone sees what they see on control stations at the same time. That's what Nigeria does not have.

The person who appears to be ignorant is you. If you want free lessons about what a tactical data link is, just humbly ask and you will be given. Instead of bringing some air traffic controllers agencies and mistaken them as tactical data link
Any person who knew what was a tactical data link would have never stooped to that low of showing utter ignorance about the subject. Ask and I will teach you and surely you will stop embarrassing yourself again. Just admit that you don't have a tactical data link and move on, because you will search and search for it and you won't find any. You just don't have it. What is so difficult in admitting the truth or does it pain you to swallow the truth?

Patchesagain:


Strawman argument detected.

SANDF is not deployed on AP duties, never has been, never will be. It only provides support when poaching is from across the border

SANDF helicopter was downed inside Kruger park while chasing Rhino poachers, an SANDF soldier committed suicide inside Kruger park while chasing Rhino poachers, 21 Battalion SANDF has been dribbled round the clock by Rhino poachers till frustrated, yet you say your army has tactical data-link for target ops, so why has the target been dribbling a whole battalion and special forces plus air force helicopters ?

You have a data-link Link.ZA that only works around the stadiums where FIFA World Cup was played
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Patchesagain:


I dont care about sea-spray

You do care about Sea Spray, you spent hours googling it's user list and you posted several sources here for it, yes you do care.

Post proof that ATR-42 uses Sea Spray radar or else tell us you have been telling lies so we can forgive you your crime
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FighterPilot:



[s]The person who appears to be ignorant is you. If you want free lessons about what a tactical data link is, just humbly ask and you will be given. Instead of bringing some air traffic controllers agencies and mistaken them as tactical data link
Any person who knew what was a tactical data link would have never stooped to that low of showing utter ignorance about the subject. Ask and I will teach you and surely you will stop embarrassing yourself again. Just admit that you don't have a tactical data link and move on, because you will search and search for it and you won't find any. You just don't have it. What is so difficult in admitting the truth or does it pain you to swallow the truth?[/s]

I won't even bother responding to a dullards sense of training and comprehension

agaugust:


SANDF helicopter was downed inside Kruger park while chasing Rhino poachers, an SANDF soldier committed suicide inside Kruger park while chasing Rhino poachers, 21 Battalion SANDF has been dribbled round the clock by Rhino poachers till frustrated, yet you say your army has tactical data-link for target ops, so why has the target been dribbling a whole battalion and special forces plus air force helicopters ?

You have a data-link Link.ZA that only works around the stadiums where FIFA World Cup was played
.

Rhino poachers wouldn't even dare to interfere with military. They will never even think of it.

FighterPilot:


Rhino poachers wouldn't even dare to interfere with military. They will never even think of it.

They, Poachers shot down SAAF Augusta helicopter that was chasing them inside Kruger park
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stillchris:


I won't even bother responding to a dullards sense of training and comprehension

Ask and I will give you free lessons. I am a Professional man and you cannot force me to believe mediocrity.

agaugust:


They, Poachers shot down SAAF Augusta helicopter that was chasing them inside Kruger park
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Do you even know that Rhino poachers are mostly game reserve officials. SA has plenty of private game reserves, so are you suggesting that SANDF should become a subject to private property?


http://mobi.iol.co.za/#!/article/sandf-helicopter-was-not-shot-down-1.1494259

Forgot the SAAF had these.....Litening III targeting pod.


[b]"The targeting pod contains a high-resolution, forward-looking infrared sensor (FLIR) that displays an infrared image of the target to the aircrew; it has a wide field of view search capability and a narrow field of view acquisition/targeting capability of battlefield-sized targets. The pod also contains a charged coupled device (CCD-TV) camera used to obtain target imagery in the visible portion of the electromagnetic spectrum. An on-gimbal inertial navigation sensor has established line-of-sight and automatic boresighting capability.The pod is equipped with a laser designator for precise delivery of laser-guided munitions, a laser rangefinder provides information for various avionics systems, for example, navigation updates, weapon deliveries and target updates.

The targeting pod includes an automatic target tracker to provide fully automatic stabilized target tracking at altitudes, airspeeds and slant ranges consistent with tactical weapon delivery maneuvers. These features simplify the functions of target detection and recognition, and permit attack of targets with precision-guided weapons on a single pass."[/b]


http://www.saairforce.co.za/the-airforce/weapons/71/litening-iii-targeting-pod#


Spotting targets and giving attack co-ords from 40 000 feet. Higher than other um...."surveilance aircraft" can dream to fly .

To add to the Thales Digital Recon Pod

lionel4power:
junk...
first defeat rhino poachers first, that is ruining your economy.

Why you so obsess with Rhino poaching show us your wild or even anything that can compare to SA. Ooooops!!! I forgot you ate all of them leaving only Rats aka Ewi/Yei as the last remaining wild life.

stillchris:


no patches. stop talking like a novice

that's a silly excuse.

you signed the contract in 98. so definitelt had 10 years to train more than 9 pilots before the aircrafts are delivered.

now it's 17 years and you are stuck with just 9

The Gripen is still being OT & E.

SAAF still has reserve fighter pilots like the guy testing flying the AHRLAC.

Henry120:


When did you sign the Gripen Contract?



It sure as hell didn't take Czech republic 16 years to raise 9 Pilots for their Gripens.

You don't wonder why SAAF pilots out performed them during lion effort?

FighterPilot:



ATR 72 is far more advanced than grandfather ATR42. In fact seaspray with ATOS appears to be important element. If SA will have to buy ATR I will recommend it to be among the number of possible choices. It is said that it can also be armed with Exocet AS missile as well. However, both system are said to be less capable.

We will fit our own FLIR, Cameras and other components.

FighterPilot:


Ask and I will give you free lessons. I am a Professional man and you cannot force me to believe mediocrity.

i know.

you are a professional dullard.

you're a mediocre. so no need