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[size=16pt]south african air force headquaters bombed by ANC terrorists[/size]


many south african airforce officers were k.illed by the African National Congress's 20 May 1983 car bombing of headquarters of the South African Defence Force in Pretoria.

http://www.sahistory.org.za/dated-event/south-african-air-force-bombs-anc-maputo

this was the best and most professional era in military of south africa, the much respected SADF , more powerful than today's SANDF

south african air force made history as the first air force in africa to get their heads kicked by local terrorists right on their homeland backyard


[img]http://cdn.theguardian.tv/brightcove/poster/2012/5/10/120510Syria_6160725.jpg[/img]

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[size=16pt]nuclear power station of south africa bombed by ANC [/size]


Date: 19 December, 1982

In a well-planned attack on the south africa's Koeberg Nuclear Power Station in Cape Town, Umkhonto we Sizwe (MK) causes heavy damage. MK, translated as the Spear of the Nation, is the military wing of the African National Congress (ANC) successfully sabotaged the multi-million dollar Koeberg plant.

http://www.sahistory.org.za/dated-event/anc-attacks-koeberg-nuclear-power-station-0

south african military was asleep and caught flat footed once again on home soil by rag tag ANC bushmen terrorists wrecking havoc on a heavily guarded and vital nuclear power station


dummy south african military CANNOT even safeguard a delicate nuclear power plant, terrorists could have blown up the whole of south africa





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[size=16pt]state of emergency declared in south africa, terrorists rule the land, kick the military[/size]

the first state of emergency could not stop terrorists ruling south africa with about 100 successful attacks on south african military and government sensitive and well guarded bases and facilities, therefore in 1986 the second state of emergency was declared and Andrew Zondo is hanged by the regime for his part in the Amamzimtoti bomb blasts.


http://www.anc.org.za/show.php?id=73

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CraigB:

Oh, I'm sure some journalists drive Hiluxes. So, they believe that they are driving APCs? Pull the other one!

Fact is, apart from the obvious question of why the military equipment got taken by the enemy in the first place (the answer being uselessness), now it's become clear that the naai-gerian military is too disorganised to look after its equipment. That boko haram used your own equipment to attack you is ironic. Lesser military nations would die of embarrassment.


Hardware was also left behind in Mali - and this was not even a quick exit.

Disorganised - this lot. Useless in most areas.

In which area is the naai-gerian military competent again? Zero areas.

Why don't you say something new for a change? Don't tell me, the Nigerian Army are useless, abi?

CraigB:

Oh, I'm sure some journalists drive Hiluxes. So, they believe that they are driving APCs? Pull the other one!

Fact is, apart from the obvious question of why the military equipment got taken by the enemy in the first place (the answer being uselessness), now it's become clear that the naai-gerian military is too disorganised to look after its equipment. That boko haram used your own equipment to attack you is ironic. Lesser military nations would die of embarrassment.


Hardware was also left behind in Mali - and this was not even a quick exit.

Disorganised - this lot. Useless in most areas.


In which area is the naai-gerian military competent again? Zero areas.

Carry on making things u. You never know, it may even turn out to be true, no be so?

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south africans now increase seleka rebels casualty to over 1,000 and keep SANDF casualty at constant 15 soldiers

zaandrew:


The base it self was never over run.

We lost 15 men and killed over a thousand (though many of the seleka died days latter from infection)

so it was not a slauter.

We had planned on flying renforments in but FOMAC and the french did not what a escasltion. Both have now asked SA to return and probly regret stand on the side line during the battel.

Could not reinforce with out realling pissing the french of and Fomac so withdrawl was the only opstion.

BH seems to be getting bolder and stronger with each attack. How long till nigeria becomes a syria.

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[size=16pt]south african air force headquaters bombed by ANC terrorists[/size]


many south african airforce officers were k.illed by the African National Congress's 20 May 1983 car bombing of headquarters of the South African Defence Force in Pretoria.

http://www.sahistory.org.za/dated-event/south-african-air-force-bombs-anc-maputo

this was the best and most professional era in military of south africa, the much respected SADF , more powerful than today's SANDF

south african air force made history as the first air force in africa to get their heads kicked by local terrorists right on their homeland backyard


[img]http://cdn.theguardian.tv/brightcove/poster/2012/5/10/120510Syria_6160725.jpg[/img]

That was not an actual bombing, it was a failed attempt. Sorry for your try. Gooddluck.

Thiza: @rka1 WELL THOUGHTOUT RESPONSE WHEN NIGERIA IS AT THE RECEIVING END BUT WHEN SOUTH AFRICA FACED THE SAME SITUATION IN CENTRAL AFRICAN REPUBLIC ALL SORTS OF INSULTS WERE TRADE BY YOUR KIND.

hey listen up Mr @Thiza ! we did not insult your over-rated south african military for their seleka defeat.

go back to this thread from month of march to april, @Henry as a good nigerian started with special sympathy and condolence greetings to the south african soldiers k.illed by seleka.

then @Henry went ahead to start praising your soldiers 'courage' and 'superb world record' kill ratio, and i stopped him (with due respect to you sir @Henry, you be my oga patapata anytime, i salute you boss !)

i told him not to believe any south african combat casualty because your country is master of military propaganda.

then @andrewza started the massive propaganda lies.

south african army casualties 15 soldiers, seleka rebels casualties 300.

after a few days, south africans changed seleka rebels casualties to 500 dead.

after a few weeks south africans increased seleka rebels casualties to 800 dead.

we nigerians dont like lies, deception, and fraud on our nairaland forum, so we kicked against it and reacted very hot and hard ....call that insults if you wish.

your people were trying to deceive us into believing that south african military is the strongest in africa with super-human capabilities in combat and supernatural k.ill ratios that the whole world has never seen before.

now today @andrewza has increased seleka death rate to over 1,000 rebels dead, while south african army casualty remains frozen at 15 dead.

if we insult you for being fraudsters and scammers of war propaganda lies, did we do wrong ?

zaandrew:


The base it self was never over run.

We lost 15 men and killed over a thousand (though many of the seleka died days latter from infection)

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Fighter Pilot:

That was not an actual bombing, it was a failed attempt. Sorry for your try. Gooddluck.

fool yourself , not us

south african air force made history as the first african air force to be b.ombed in their own air force headquaters and k.illed like chicken

"The ANC's submission said that the bombing was in response to a South African cross-border raid into Lesotho in December 1982 which killed 42 ANC supporters and civilians, and the assassination of Ruth First, an ANC activist and wife of Joe Slovo, in Maputo, Mozambique.

11 of the casualties were SAAF personnel and hence a military target"

see your south african air force officer standing shocked looking like a 'dundee united' outside your air force headquarters

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_Street_bombing


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Making things up, am I?

The height of uselessness and disorganisation below:


Funding: Military hardware left behind in Mali

NOVEMBER 16, 2013 BY FIDELIS SORIWEI


Chief of Defence Staff, Vice Admiral Ola Ibrahim
Chief of Defence Staff, Vice Admiral Ola Ibrahim
The Nigerian military has left behind some of its military hardware and support equipment in Mali after the decision to pull out of the United Nations Multi-Dimensional Integrated Stabilisation Mission in Mali.

Investigations revealed that the Military had not been able to evacuate the military hardware since pulling out the troops in July because of issues relating to funding.

The hardware consist trucks, tanks, armoured vehicles and other equipment used by the military at the war front.

It was learnt that the authorities of the Nigerian military discretely pulled out of the Mali operation because of the decision of ECOWAS to appoint a non-Nigerian General to command the regional force in spite of the huge contribution of the country in terms of troops.

Nigeria contributed 1, 200 troops to the operation which was designed to wrest the Northern part of Mali from the grips of Islamic fundamentalists with ties to the Al Qaeda in the Maghreb. The fundamentalists sought to establish an Islamic Republic in the area.

There were reports that Nigeria pulled out of the Mali mission in protest over the appointment of Maj.Gen Jean Bosco Kazura from Rwanda as the Commander of MINUSMA.

But the President of Cote d’Ivoire, Mr. Alhassan Ouattarra, who is the Chairman of the Authority of Heads of State and Government of ECOWAS, told journalists at the 43rd Ordinary session of the organisation that the Nigerian troops were withdrawn because they were needed at home.

His position corroborated the position that the soldiers were needed for internal security operation as shown by the deployment on arrival to operational theatres in North-East Nigeria.

However, almost five months after the decision to pull out of the Mali mission, the military hardware and some equipment of the Nigerian Armed forces that were flown to Mali have not been brought back to the country.

The items said to have been left in Mali were flown to the troubled country in January in the wake of the hurried decision of ECOWAS to deploy troops to complement the effort of the French troops in the campaign against the militants in the North of the Francophone country.

agaugust: .
[size=16pt]south african air force headquaters bombed by ANC terrorists[/size]


many south african airforce officers were k.illed by the African National Congress's 20 May 1983 car bombing of headquarters of the South African Defence Force in Pretoria.

http://www.sahistory.org.za/dated-event/south-african-air-force-bombs-anc-maputo

this was the best and most professional era in military of south africa, the much respected SADF , more powerful than today's SANDF

south african air force made history as the first air force in africa to get their heads kicked by local terrorists right on their homeland backyard


[img]http://cdn.theguardian.tv/brightcove/poster/2012/5/10/120510Syria_6160725.jpg[/img]

No mind these mofos. They still have seperatist groups arming to fight the government when the time is ripe. Then they'll understand how difficult it is to fight guerrilla warfare.

rka1:

Why don't you say something new for a change? Don't tell me, the Nigerian Army are useless, abi?

You don't have to read my posts. All your arguments - abandoned.

Rightly so. You can't deny the undeniable.

This is a "ranking of militaries" thread. Pointing out the uselessness of the Naai-gerian military is apt.

CraigB: You know that a nation its useless when its "supposedly" modern military compares itself to a military of 31 years ago.

You probably weren't born by then. So you won't know that that same military of 31 years ago is 100 times better than your modern day military including the rest of Africa. Teach yourself and stop ranting like a senseless parrot.

chris365:

You probably weren't born by then. So you won't know that that same military of 31 years ago is 100 times better than your modern day military including the rest of Africa. Teach yourself and stop ranting like a senseless parrot.

you f.inished him

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chris365:

You probably weren't born by then. So you won't know that that same military of 31 years ago is 100 times better than your modern day military including the rest of Africa. Teach yourself and stop ranting like a senseless parrot.

By your logic, no one should mention the world wars on this thread.

What a smart little quip!

Small wonder - when arguments get stuck, turn to the man. To hell with thinking.

CraigB:

By your logic, no one should mention the world wars on this thread.

@chris 365 said 31 years ago, was there a world war II 31 years ago ? fool

south african air force is the first in african history to be bombed and k.illed in their own headquaters on home soil. FACT, live with it

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CraigB: Making things up, am I?

The height of uselessness and disorganisation below:

Yes, making things up. This is the same reporter once he had been given the facts.

684 soldiers have returned from Mali –NAF

November 19, 2013 by Fidelis Soriwei



Nigerian Troops deployed


The Federal Government has brought back 684 personnel of the Nigerian Army who were deployed as part of the soldiers in the United Nations Multi-Dimensional Integrated Stabilisation Mission in Mali.

The 684 were part of the 1,200 Nigerian soldiers deployed in the sub-continent’s efforts to dislodge Islamic militants from the northern part of Mali in January.

Director, Air Force Information, Air Commodore Yusuf Anas, said in a telephone interview with our correspondent on Monday that apart from the 684 personnel of the Army, the Nigerian Air Force had also flown back 93 tonnes of equipment that were sent to Mali alongside the military personnel.

Anas was reacting to insinuations that issues bordering on funding had made the Nigerian military to leave behind some of the support equipment deployed for the Mali operation in the Francophone country in spite of the decision by Nigeria to pull out in July, 2013

The Air Force Director of Information said that issues relating to the release of funds for capital projects had no effect on the operational effectiveness of the service, stressing that it was not correct to say that the country had only one operational C-130 military cargo air craft.

It was learnt that the British Air Force had assisted Nigeria to fly the support equipment for the Mali operations to the francophone country as the country had only one operational C-130 cargo aircraft.

He said, “We have flown so many of their equipment back from mission areas. Capital project is not about operational readiness; it is not directly affecting operational readiness, we have two C-130 in operation. We have flown 27 missions, and 684 troops have been brought back in those missions, including their equipment, field kitchen, medicals and others.

“In these missions, we have also brought back 93 tonnes, 14 vehicles and we need only one more mission to complete the process of getting them back to the country.”

He said that the total number of the C-130 military cargo aircraft would increase to three by the first quarter of 2014 as one of the aircraft undergoing depot maintenance in the United Kingdom would be ready for operations then.

http://www.punchng.com/news/684-soldiers-have-returned-from-mali-naf/

SANDF = seleka national defence forces


Now, I'm not saying seleka got the geckos from SANDF in bangui............. I'm only saying, seleka rebels imported them from south-africa.


Sure, sure........... Truly........ They were imported.

I swear, they were imported.

Henry120: SANDF

Henry120: SANDF

extra special forces

DictatorZAR:

Now you are truly fcvkd that Tucano is not a fourth gen warplane fact.

Are you telling me you gonna use a turbo prob aircraft to attack a nation 4000km away please boy this shi.t can only come from a Egotistical Delusional person village boy.

-that plane is comparable to Paramounts Archlyc reconnaissance light attack plane built in SA.
-our old Cheetah's can take that plane out without any effort.
-answer me how the hell would that plane defend itself against a 4th gen missile.
-SA can use the Bateleur to take out that expensive piece of junk.

Damn the nerve of this Yahoo boy that plane wouldnt even reach DRC before it gets shot down.

since you dont know how weapon platforms work in reality, i will post more about Super Tucano as the days come.

take this for a snack ....

world war II propeller combat aircraft have range of over 4,000km and travel from london to italy on bombing raids

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avro_Lancaster

a propeller aircraft is much harder to detect by enemy radar.

they have zero jet engine emissions and very hard for heat seeking anti aircraft missiles and more difficult for infra red missiles too.

they fly above the ceiling/altitude of shoulder held manpad anti-aircraft missiles and laser guided missiles.

they can be easily confused with civilian light training and private flying club planes like Cessna aircraft, one defeated the whole of USSR/Russia's super power air defence systems in this modern times.

"Hundreds of military chiefs were forced to resign after amateur German pilot Mathias Rust penetrated the Soviet air defence system 25 years ago.

Twenty-five years ago, on May 28, 1987, as the Soviet Union celebrated the Day of the Border Guard, a single-engined Cessna-172 plane flew through Soviet air defences and landed near Red Square in Moscow, just missing overhead wires."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sponsored/rbth/features/9306507/remember-mathias-rust-1987.html

they have less noise, can fly low almost belly to the ground.

if nigerian air force starts using her new super tucano light propeller warplane with its 4,800km very long range, we have an edge over south africa, we can fly undetected into your porous and poorly monitored long borders and with cannon shells do havoc....

and other things like japanese kamikaze pilots used propeller warplanes in a very destructive way.

south africa has NO warplane that can match the range of nigeria's coming super tucano.

more posts on this issue later in the days to come.

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south african army gecko vehicle before 'transfer' without waiting to sign change of ownership papers

[img]http://livemag.co.za/wp-content/themes/livemag/timthumb.php?src=http://livemag.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/sandf.jpg&w=480&h=360[/img]

south african army seleka rebels gecko vehicle after the 'trasnfer' by force



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rka1:

Yes, making things up. This is the same reporter once he had been given the facts.

684 soldiers have returned from Mali –NAF

November 19, 2013 by Fidelis Soriwei



Nigerian Troops deployed


The Federal Government has brought back 684 personnel of the Nigerian Army who were deployed as part of the soldiers in the United Nations Multi-Dimensional Integrated Stabilisation Mission in Mali.

The 684 were part of the 1,200 Nigerian soldiers deployed in the sub-continent’s efforts to dislodge Islamic militants from the northern part of Mali in January.

Director, Air Force Information, Air Commodore Yusuf Anas, said in a telephone interview with our correspondent on Monday that apart from the 684 personnel of the Army, the Nigerian Air Force had also flown back 93 tonnes of equipment that were sent to Mali alongside the military personnel.

Anas was reacting to insinuations that issues bordering on funding had made the Nigerian military to leave behind some of the support equipment deployed for the Mali operation in the Francophone country in spite of the decision by Nigeria to pull out in July, 2013

The Air Force Director of Information said that issues relating to the release of funds for capital projects had no effect on the operational effectiveness of the service, stressing that it was not correct to say that the country had only one operational C-130 military cargo air craft.

It was learnt that the British Air Force had assisted Nigeria to fly the support equipment for the Mali operations to the francophone country as the country had only one operational C-130 cargo aircraft.

He said, “We have flown so many of their equipment back from mission areas. Capital project is not about operational readiness; it is not directly affecting operational readiness, we have two C-130 in operation. We have flown 27 missions, and 684 troops have been brought back in those missions, including their equipment, field kitchen, medicals and others.

“In these missions, we have also brought back 93 tonnes, 14 vehicles and we need only one more mission to complete the process of getting them back to the country.”

He said that the total number of the C-130 military cargo aircraft would increase to three by the first quarter of 2014 as one of the aircraft undergoing depot maintenance in the United Kingdom would be ready for operations then.

http://www.punchng.com/news/684-soldiers-have-returned-from-mali-naf/

Nowhere does this long story say ALL the hardware was returned.

You'll need something else. This is "tame" and "blunt" on the biting and cutting sides.

CraigB:

By your logic, no one should mention the world wars on this thread.

What a smart little quip!

Small wonder - when arguments get stuck, turn to the man. To hell with thinking.

Is this another one of your diversionary tactics when beaten, or just your stup1dity at play as usual? You got the right response to your childish comment so stop whining.

Look for someone else to play your games with. Coconut head.

chris365:

Is this another one of your diversionary tactics when beaten, or just your stup1dity at play as usual? You got the right response to your childish comment so stop whining.

Look for someone else to play your games with. Coconut head.

You've done no beating, other than on the backside of your own head.

Your logic was that I wasn't born 31 years ago, so I couldn't talk.

Well, by this amazing logic, no one here should mention the world wars - unless we are playing with dinosaurs.

Smart Naai-gerian logic here.

Once you are done dazzling us with your amazing intelligence, the military of Naai-geria still remains useless based on the aforementioned reasons.

agaugust:

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south african army gecko vehicle before 'transfer' without waiting to sign change of ownership papers

[img]http://livemag.co.za/wp-content/themes/livemag/timthumb.php?src=http://livemag.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/sandf.jpg&w=480&h=360[/img]

south african army seleka rebels gecko vehicle after the 'trasnfer' by force



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LWKM . Una done kill me with Ladd finish

CraigB:

Your logic was that I wasn't born 31 years ago, so I couldn't talk.

Your logic. Not mine.

Perhaps if you had tried harder to understand that post."seeing as slow as you are", you might crawl out from the hole of sh1t you've dumped yourself. Enjoy

chris365:

Your logic. Not mine.

Perhaps if you had tried harder to understand that post."seeing as slow as you are", you might crawl out from the hole of sh1t you've dumped yourself. Enjoy

No - you should've tried harder on the back end of the thought process before posting.

That's why your prostrations are accompanied by no explanation. There's no explanation for your "moment of brilliance".

Don't cry. Embrace what you are and be happy.

Ah shame - agaugust got banned while trying to shift attention to Seleka?

Well, Seleka won't change the facts about:

1. APCs being stolen from your Naai-gerian military;

2 The selfsame APCs being used against the military; and

3. Hardware being left behind in Mali.