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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by chris365(m): 10:41am On Dec 09, 2013 |
Fighter Pilot: The new denel bateleur UAV: Yes. The drone SANDF does not have the money to acquire from rebel. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by chris365(m): 10:45am On Dec 09, 2013 |
Mike..ZA: Transmittion is what delivers power to the people. Not just capacity generated. How come up to 5 million south Africans still have never seen light before. and what do you think has been causing your electricity crises recently. Nigeria generates 4000MW yet delivers power to more than 40 million people. that is almost the same amount SA is gives power with 40000MW. Tell me the difference. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by NaijaPikinGidi: 11:12am On Dec 09, 2013 |
Fighter Pilot: We could as well say we have many drones! But the question to you (which apparently you are struggling to answer) is HOW MANY more than Nigeria's 12 UAVs does SANDF have operationally? Just give an answer and show reasonable/reliable proof. Otherwise anyone can make unsubstatiable and fraudulent claims like you. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 12:50pm On Dec 09, 2013 |
chris365: According to the law in South Africa, what belongs to Denel belongs to SANDF during war and distress. The local defence has every rights to utiilise whatever Denel has in stock during attack by the enermy to achieve victory. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 12:52pm On Dec 09, 2013 |
CraigB:exactly my point ,you are hereby IGNORED |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 12:55pm On Dec 09, 2013 |
NaijaPikinGidi: Bwahahahahahahaha!!! We all know that Nigeria does not have the capability of buying nor even developing UAV's. Such a technology is still new in Nigeria, while SA has been using it for the past 20 years and not only utilising it, but also manufacturing it on large scale. Private citizens in South Africa even have drones and some have even formed clubs to compete with them. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 1:10pm On Dec 09, 2013 |
chris365: If a population of 50 million in SA exerts power shadding on 40000MW, now tell me what about 4000MW that you are claiming is providing 40million people in Nigeria? Your claim is smelling of fish. 4000MW is too small to provide power to 40 million people. My friend that is a lie. Where do those 5 million live because there is no any town, city or metropolitan in South Africa which does not have electricity. The population of South Africas villagers is even less than 2 million. Botswana as a whole country has a population less than that of Soweto alone. Soweto has a population of more than all the villages of South Africa combined together. Over 80% of SA villages have electricity. Over 80% of SA population have relocated to cities, thus live in urban areas. SA has a population of 50 million and now tell me where does 5 million people with no electricity come from. Dont tell us about old articles which Agaugust like to quote from, which were either written when the ANC was only 5 years in power and still struggling to change the lives of the poor. SA has since advanced my friend, i hope you come here one day to witness what we have here. No wonder many of your mates do not want to return back home once they set their foot in SA. Here under SA is sitting at no:15 in respect of power production by countries. It is above world giants such as Australia and others and still there are more power stations which are currently being built in SA to deal with power shadding. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_electricity_production |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by NaijaPikinGidi: 2:51pm On Dec 09, 2013 |
Fighter Pilot: Shut the eff up!! What law? Are you mad? Don't start what you can't finish! Point to the law young man! DENEL and SANDF are two different entities that must survive based on their individual commercial turnovers or fiscal budgetary allocations each year! SANDF will use products/weapons based on COD or on a firm articulated contractual basis! Stop feeding yourself with more delusions. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by NaijaPikinGidi: 3:03pm On Dec 09, 2013 |
Fighter Pilot: Not one iota of proof to make your fraudulent tantrums credible? You remind me of your brother MsauZA. You cannot utilize what you don't have. How many units have been manufactured by DENEL and who are the buyers? You seem to be on some cheap drugs to be this high! |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 3:06pm On Dec 09, 2013 |
NaijaPikinGidi: Denel is a government enterprise and is owned by the people of SA to develop arms for our local defence and provide other nations with a unit price. During war, SANDF has all the rights to use whatever denel has developed to achieve victory against any invading enemy. Fact!! Live with it. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by CAMNEWTON4PRES: 3:08pm On Dec 09, 2013 |
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 3:17pm On Dec 09, 2013 |
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 3:35pm On Dec 09, 2013 |
DictatorZAR: Nigeria has by far the "freest" press in africa. At no time did the president of nigeria order the arrest of the leadership journalist. They were arrested by the police and taken to court for the falsification of official government documents. Or isn't fraudulent practises a crime anymore? Freedom of speech isn't freedom of defamation. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:40pm On Dec 09, 2013 |
Fighter Pilot: nigeria has 9 israeli drones and 3 NAF made drones Amebo I, II, and III Transfers of major conventional weapons. Deals with deliveries or orders made for year range 2000 to 2012. Note: The 'No. delivered' and the 'Year(s) of deliveries' columns refer to all deliveries since the beginning of the contract. For more information, see Sources and Methods. Source: SIPRI Arms Transfers Database Information generated: 9 December 2013 Search Again Recipient Supplier No. ordered No. ordered data uncertain Weapon designation Weapon description Status Status data uncertain Year of order Year of order data uncertain Year(s) of deliveries No. delivered 9 units Year(s) of delivery or no. delivered data uncertain Recipient involvement Comment Nigeria Israel 9 Yes Aerostar UAV New 2006 2007 - 2007 9 units Yes Part of $260 m deal of Aerostar UAV systems http://portal.sipri.org/publications/pages/transfer/trade-register |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by jpphilips(m): 3:50pm On Dec 09, 2013 |
kwame nkria: @Agaust Even if you were born a m0r0n, your fifth sense should have told you that the thread is talking military. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 3:58pm On Dec 09, 2013 |
Africans have no justification whatsoever to call the french neo-colonialist. Seeing that african leaders have simply refused to do the needful as regards to peace and security on the african continent. The french again have taken the initiative to fill that gap. Nature abhors a vacuum, the french have seen the vacuum in CAR, like they did in mali, and have gone ahead to fill that vacuum. What then is the essence of this thread if africans continue to exhibit a lackadaisical attitude towards effectively tackling insecurity on the continent. With the nigerian government engaged in many peacekeeping efforts across west, central and east africa, and it's current counter-insurgency campaign in the northeast of nigeria, one would naturally expect that the loud-mouth south africans would jump on this opportunity to show that it has the capability to quell the violence in the central african republic. Bearing in mind that the south-africans were previously in CAR. Well.......... As we can clearly see, once again, south-africa is all mouth and no action. An effective toothless dog. Nigerian troops/ security services are currently deployed in..... Liberia Sudan Mali SLR Guniea- bissau Ivory-coast Somalia 1 Like
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 4:26pm On Dec 09, 2013 |
Nigerian President Endorses African Stand-by Force by African Defence Admin • December 9, 2013 President Goodluck Jonathan in Paris on Saturday said the Federal Government would support the formation of Africa Stand-by Force to take charge of crises situation on the continent. Mr. Jonathan said this in an interview with France 24 television shortly after the end of a two-day summit on peace and security in Africa hosted by President Francois Hollande of France. The News Agency of Nigeria (NAN) reports that one of the main resolutions of the summit is the formation of the Africa Stand-by Force not later than 2015 to enable the continent take charge of its own security. Mr. Jonathan said Nigeria as a committed nation to global peace keeping welcomed the formation of the specialised force to take control of the security challenges in Africa. “We totally support it because we also believe that by having a robust stand-by force, it is much better than the ad hoc contributions by nations,” he said. “They can mobilise very quickly whenever we have challenges, and there is the need to deploy them. “So, we support it and we thank the president and people of France for supporting Africa in this regard.” The president said a stand-by force dedicated to conflicts resolution would assist the continent in nipping any crisis in the bud before escalation. He said there would be no need to wait for other developed nation to send troops to crisis zones in the continent or waiting for UN Resolutions before troop deployment. “When you have this stand-by force, they now have an operational order covering the whole of Africa. “Anywhere there is conflict, it will not require UN resolution, but a host country’s invitation and an endorsement by the AU,’’ he said. Mr. Jonathan noted that the stand-by force should be elastic in its composition and contribution by member states of the African Union. He said: “Contributions should depend on challenges and resources. As we build up the resources, we increase the strength of the force. “You will not just have men and women wearing uniform, at least they must be equipped in term of arms, logistic and the force will be under the AU.’’ Mr. Jonathan said Africa as a major trading partner with France and Europe, the peace in the continent should be of paramount concern. “You cannot have people to trade with if there are crisis. Though you can trade on weapon, but that is just a negative aspect of trade. “To have balance of trade and robust economic development, nations must be at peace. “Europe must be worried when there is always conflict in Africa because they will not want to invest in managing crisis but in development,’’ he said. The president called on France and the European Union to assist in the formation of the stand-by force through capacity building, training and provision of sophisticated equipments. Mr. Jonathan said that ECOWAS had a similar force which had assisted in responding to crises in some member states. “At the beginning of ECOWAS, it was meant to concentrate on economic issues, but we have seen that you cannot achieve that without interfering in the internal affairs of member states. “We realised that you cannot talk about the economy in a very unstable state. States must be stable before you can manage their economy. “So, whenever we have situation that we need to intervene, we intervene and that has brought some reasonable stability.’’ Mr. Jonathan recalled that the ECOWAS Force had intervened in crises in Niger, Cote d’Ivoire and presently stabilising Guinea Bissau and Mali. NAN reports that President Hollande, at the opening of the summit on Friday, had challenged the over 53 African leaders that attended the summit on the need for the continent to take control of its security. Mr. Jonathan also said the Federal Government was not considering sending troop to the trouble region of the Central Africa Republic. He said the Federal Government would consider other forms of assistance that could be rendered to the troubled nation. The president said apart from the fact that Nigeria had troops in quite a number of West African countries, “it is facing its own security challenges of Boko Haram insurgence’’. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 4:41pm On Dec 09, 2013 |
Henry120: According to SIPRI, nigeria purchased at total of 9 unmanned aerial vehicles from Israel in the period of 2006-2007. With 3 other nigerian made UAV's, we got 12 UAV's in service, and africa's biggest UAV fleet. We also know about the Israeli drone rip off to, and the subsequent scam Nothing new. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 4:59pm On Dec 09, 2013 |
agaugust: We have more than that. We have developed more than 9 AUV's for the past 20 years and SANDF have used more than that ever since. Unfortunately, there are no any records showing how many UAV's we have at the moment, but will confirm it very soon because we normally do not take any records of them since we have plenty more. It is equally like when you are asking me how many rattles or R4s do we have in SANDF. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 5:03pm On Dec 09, 2013 |
The presidency through the Office of the National Security Adviser (NSA) has opened a crisis management room to enable President Goodluck Jonathan respond to disasters and other security challenges from any part of the world. It is headed by the director, presidential communication, Command and Control Centre (PC4), Gen. T.T. Waya. The centre is equipped with audio and video facilities that enhance communication between and among all stakeholders. NSA’s special adviser on media, Karounwi Adekunle told LEADERSHIP Weekend yesterday that, on assumption of office, the NSA (Col. Sambo Dasuki) felt the need to create a rallying point for the president and his strategic aides. “Prior to this, there was no control point for crisis management and emergency.To put it modestly, no clear picture of operation. When the NIGCOMSAT infrastructure was de-orbited, crisis management system collapsed,” he stated. He said though the project was initiated by the late NSA, Gen. Andrew Azazi, Dasuki built it with a state-of- the-art infrastructure that was consistent with the British Cabinet Office (COBR) and the American Situation Room, adding that work on it commenced in December last year. Noting that work started principally with civil infrastructure and ICT components, Adekunle added that much time was spent on construction due to its complex nature to enable real-time information with secure audio and data video clips. “Project was completed in August 2013 and commissioned by President Jonathan on September 2, 2013 for which the NSA was chief host and Brig-Gen. T.T. Waya (rtd), director, presidential communication, Command and Control Centre (PC4), was host. This crisis management centre would enable the president and his strategic aides to arrive at informed decisions in accordance with global best practices,” he explained. On the advantages of the centre, he said it would “enable real-time communication by audio and video data communication between and within stakeholders. This is an area the NSA is very much interested in”. It would also enable table-top and simulation exercises, he added. “The facilities underscore the importance of giving the president a clear view of any crisis, be it natural or human-induced. The capability of forecasting on the direction and outcome of crisis in future, such as drought, famine … so that the country can make adequate preparation. “Strategic stakeholders, ministers, heads of security agencies can ask for footages and other relevant information. It is quite instructive to note that, with these facilities, the president has the capacity to contain or mitigate disasters anywhere he is,” he said. leadership.ng/news/071213/presidency-gets-crisis-control-room |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 5:27pm On Dec 09, 2013 |
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 5:32pm On Dec 09, 2013 |
agaugust: This is why I call you a foolish Yahoo boy sitting under a village tree with a diesel generator in the background. Do you know that carriers costs more then your annual military budget and it takes more then 5 years to built one and over 8 years just to fully commission them. It seems you are on one of your dreams again. Show us when an where you will acquire the submarines and carries show us sources and not the Pakistani dream where your sailors are getting training on old submarines as cleaners. By 2018 none of those pipe dreams would've materialised because if you were truly in the defence industry you would've known this but like a typical Naai'ja person you usually go on this Aso Rock dream of yours sipping on Garri and pepper soup, exposing your self once again as a fraud. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 6:16pm On Dec 09, 2013 |
Tomorrow i will be in Madiba's memorial service to pay tribute to the man who fought for freedom of SA. Barrack Obama, Oprah Winfrey and many more will be there. So please join us if you are in South Africa.
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 6:23pm On Dec 09, 2013 |
chris365:40 million out 150 million? Nigeria is a joke,NO you're a joke. You're probably using a candle right now to light up your house,cause of power cuts. What's causing Nigeria's electricity crises? POOR PLANNING. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 6:23pm On Dec 09, 2013 |
agaugust: Just give your honest answer, is the NNS Aradu amongst the top 20 frigates currently in service in the world. Can you go and tell this fairy tale on other credible Naval forums and lets see how your NNS aradu with its 1970's otomats mkII will be laughed at. We've been through this sh.it before. I dare you to post this sh..it on defenseweb or any other blog. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 6:34pm On Dec 09, 2013 |
Henry120: The presidency through the Office of the NationalShut UP!!! No one got time for this. All eyes are on the SANDF Operation Uxolo: 11 000 troops the entire 2 squadron has been activated + 85 combat school. The Rooivalks + A109s are doing runs between Pretoria and johannesburg.......... WHO SAID SAAF HAS 6 PILOTS AGAIN??
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 6:41pm On Dec 09, 2013 |
Mike..ZA: I already told him that SA with 45000MW is still experiencing power shadding and now i wanted him to tell me how the hell on earth can 4000MW provide electricity to more than 40 million people, unless of course they use it only for lighting which is still impossible. No wonder there are no any electronic gates in Nigeria. They are still utilising gate man even to this age who manually opens and close the gate, unlike in SA where gates are eletronically operated. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 6:50pm On Dec 09, 2013 |
NaijaPikinGidi:During a major war. Denel will provide the SANDF with quality equipment. Even prototypes like during the bush war when the Ratel ZT-3 was sent into Angola in prototype form. The army already has five Badger IFVs+ small units of the G7 105mm howitzer now you're trying to tell us this systems won't be deployed if SA's land was threatened?........FACT is Nigeria would struggle to service or get spare for its soviet era systems in a major war against another country. Which world powers would strongly oppose. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 7:00pm On Dec 09, 2013 |
Fighter Pilot:NIGERIA IS JOKE 1. Majority of Nigerians use generators,yet feel like the government is doing enough for them. 4000MW for a 150 million? 2. On some humour: 77% of Nigerian women bleach their skin. 3. Boko Haram is still going 7 months after massive troops were poured to the north. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 7:18pm On Dec 09, 2013 |
NaijaPikinGidi: Ahaah!!! I smell jealousy here. Please compare your ameboII drone to a Bateleur or Seeker II which can both fire missiles and defend itself. Jealous!!! Jealous!!! Jealous!!! |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 7:22pm On Dec 09, 2013 |
chris365: Since when has one soldier become "soldiers". Now my ignorant fool your country dont even have wild animal to protect anymore all of them eaten by 170m poor souls. Does Nigeria even have a trans national park that can compare to Kruger. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 7:28pm On Dec 09, 2013 |
Mike..ZA: You are a capital fool. What's the correlation between my "situation room" post, and the rubbish you posted. |
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