agaugust:

Their uniform is not desert camouflage which is Nigerian standard for anti Boko war, and helmet, name tags, flag logo, boots are all missing what proof are you looking for?

Okay I think they are more likely to be South African Soldiers killed by Seleka, now you prove mw wrong since @fighter pilot says the photo source has no web link...

Those soldiers dead bodies are SANDF casualties

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The SANDF can't hide casualties with SANDU around. The Chief of SANDF and SAAF face jail time now for failing to hire firefighters. Imagine it was dead soldiers. Your army uses different camo patterns,which I doubt have low IR signature as the SANDF soldier 2000.

FighterPilot:

Is good that you deny your departed fellow comrades. That's who St Peter is.

You're an idiiot.

Do a proper search next time. Don't just google up stvpidity and paste here as fact.

Henry120:

You know this how?

Radios are not common in your military.

1 soldier in a squad of 5 carry a radio in the nigerian army. The nigerian army has grenade launcher, so stop mentioning grenade launchers in all your posts like it's something special.

Police ATS in nigeria use them, it's nothing amazing.

Dreams again.

MikeZA: Dreams again.

In your case, you need a psychiatrist.

Henry120:

In your case, you need a psychiatrist.

The USA,SA,Canada,Colombia and other armies which are experienced than your Nigerian army use grenade launchers. Their choice of equipment is influenced by combat experienced. The west used mortars for defence after learning in Afghanistan that role in now changing. Some the SADF used in 80s in Angola. A SANDF battalion>Nigerian battalion.

saengine:

No. No one will just randomly out of boredom type an article saying all these countries do not hav something. Which is what that fool is asking....proof that someone doesnt have something. If base bleed is common, it would be logged. Would be very easy to find.

Ordinary standard High Explosive shells are common even with the weakest armies in the world, yet SIPRI does not log them and are hard to find. Show us how many HE shells Ghana has from SIPRI database...Olodo

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patches689:

Well I am in Seoul and you are in Seskatchawan.

So I think its very clear who has the superior mind.

And you are comparing different things.

HE and other standard artillery is common, yes.

Base Bleed is not standard, and it is not common - only a handfull of companies have the production rights to it.

You said it is common, so, unless you have proof that says "Base Bleed is common" then it is your opinion and not a fact and thus irrelevant.

Maybe you should rather spend time trying to tell us you werent lying when you told us that Nigeria has the FH-77 B05 L52

Army Guide website said Nigeria has Bofors FH-77 B0 L52, so how does their website data become my own making? If you know better than them, send them letter of correction from your South Africa prison yard.

Patrick, you are permanently stuck in Guateng province of South Africa, you are NOT in any Seoul South Korea. Augustine is in one of the 50 states of America.

Enjoy your crime infested world
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agaugust:
Army Guide website said Nigeria has Bofors FH-77 B0 L52, so how does their website data become my own making? If you know better than them, send them letter of correction from your South Africa prison yard.
Patrick, you are permanently stuck in Guateng province of South Africa, you are NOT in any Seoul South Korea. Augustine is in one of the 50 states of America.
Enjoy your crime infested world
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You are equally stuck somewhere in the villages of Nigeria. America remains a long dream to be achieved.

Henry120:
You're an idiiot.
Do a proper search next time. Don't just google up stvpidity and paste here as fact.

It doesn't come from google, it comes from a Nigerian source which was banned from the net. I tried hard to access it, but everytime it shows an error message.

agaugust:

Army Guide website said Nigeria has Bofors FH-77 B0 L52, so how does their website data become my own making? If you know better than them, send them letter of correction from your South Africa prison yard.

Patrick, you are permanently stuck in Guateng province of South Africa, you are NOT in any Seoul South Korea. Augustine is in one of the 50 states of America.

Enjoy your crime infested world
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The SANDF G6-52L can throw shells up to distances of 73km. Thank God for Army guide,we didn't know SA upgraded the guns again.

The founder of Military today Andrius Genys doesn't look that old enough to be an expect in military staff as @Agaugust has suggested. He willingly admitted that military today is not as superior as compared to other senior sources. Basically, he relies on other secondary sources for collection of information which could mislead him if the source is incorrect. The reason why I believe he used wikipedia as his source for mistakenly attributing Otomat MK2 to NNS Arandu is through him using the word "Aradu", exactly as it appears in wikipedia which was wrongly edited at the time of printing.

Hence, I am appealing to all South Africans to email this man to correct that mistake once and for all.

http://www.military-today.com/personal_appeal.htm

http://www.military-today.com/feedback.htm

FighterPilot: The founder of Military today Andrius Genys doesn't look that old enough to be an expect in military staff as @Agaugust has suggested. He willingly admitted that military today is not as superior as compared to other senior sources. Basically, he relies on other secondary sources for collection of information which could mislead him if the source is incorrect. The reason why I believe he used wikipedia as his source for mistakenly attributing Otomat MK2 to NNS Arandu is through him using the word "Aradu", exactly as it appears in wikipedia which was wrongly edited at the time of printing.

Hence, I am appealing to all South Africans to email this man to correct that mistake once and for all.

http://www.military-today.com/personal_appeal.htm

http://www.military-today.com/feedback.htm

Ah ! That military today Otomat Mk 2 on NNS Aradu is really driving the whole South African nation C.raaaaaaazy !

Naija guys una wicked
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patches689:

What more proof do you need than the fact that the picture was described as dead Nigerian soldiers?

You are so completely disingenuous that you are ruining this forum.

Grow up.

You just proved to us that that you South Africans are truly the second dullest brains in the world. Those dead soldiers are Ugandan and Burundi soldiers....

http://www.ugandacorrespondent.com/articles/2011/10/70-ugandan-burundi-troops-killed-in-somalia/

All South Africans are born to be bottom of Africa by mental configuration

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FighterPilot:

It doesn't come from google, it comes from a Nigerian source which was banned from the net. I tried hard to access it, but everytime it shows an error message.

Don't just pick up photos online without first verifying them. You claim to know the military, you've seen more than 2000 nigerian military photos on this forum, you should be able to identify the difference between different Camouflages worn by different "BIG" african militaries.

I can't mistake a south-african or kenyan or a ugandan camouflage for a nigerian camouflage or vice versa.

Again, those are ugandan forces ambushed by al-shaabab in somalia.

MikeZA: The USA,SA,Canada,Colombia and other armies which are experienced than your Nigerian army use grenade launchers. Their choice of equipment is influenced by combat experienced. The west used mortars for defence after learning in Afghanistan that role in now changing. Some the SADF used in 80s in Angola. A SANDF battalion>Nigerian battalion.

Your SANDF is a HIV carrying incompetent force. You wish you had the battle experience of the Nigerian military.

Nigerian army fields multiple grenade launchers on Armoured personnel carriers, the Navy fields them on gun-boats and vessels.

The nigerian infantry man carries an AK-74 with a grenade launcher. Grenade launchers are nothing new.

patches689: Show us pictures of the Aradu at sea. What we know about the Aradu is what the whole defence community tells us - it is not operational.

You say the Valour Class will catch Otomats if they fight the Aradu?

I doubt it, the crew of the Aradu is so incompetent they have crashed it over 7 times. The Aradu is more of a danger to itself than it is to enemy combatants.

And, non-operational warships cannot fight battles.

Show us photos of all navy warships in the world at sea this year 2014 so we can prove that all of them are operational

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patches689:

No, a "video" of a demonstration for the public is not a "respectable source"

Video demonstration and information narration by a technically competent officer in the army that uses a weapon is the best source in the world, it beats all internet websites run by civilians who do not use those weapons. Indian army has FINALLY closed this argument by saying that
Bofors FH-77B has range of 43 km.

Nigeria has 73 units of the superb Bofors FH-77 artillery.

25 units FH-77A version with range 22 km

48 units FH-77B version with range 43 km

CASE CLOSED


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaK1jFg8JBE

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MikeZA: The SANDF G6-52L can throw shells up to distances of 73km. Thank God for Army guide,we didn't know SA upgraded the guns again.

DENEL laboratory gun is NOT in South African army arsenal.

The final conclusion for your own case is from the authority of South African army chief of staff himself.

The longest range artillery shell in South African army is 38 km.

http://www.army.mil.za/equipment/weaponsystems/artillery/GV6_115mm_MK1_Gun_Howitzer_Propelled.htm

CASE CLOSED

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MikeZA: what's that machine gun when I can shot back with 40X53 Y3 automatic grenade launcher. .

No fool, South African Y3 Grenade launcher maximum range is 2.2 km. Nigerian Dshk heavy machine gun range is 5.4 km

Nigerian infantry will delete all South African infantry and their unlucky grenade launchers from 5.4 km away

http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNRussian_12.7mm-79_DShK.htm

NA infantry firepower is superior to SANDF firepower

PHOTO : NIGERIAN ARMY INFANTRY LONG RANGE DSHK MACHINE GUN

agaugust:

Ah ! That military today Otomat Mk 2 on NNS Aradu is really driving the whole South African nation C.raaaaaaazy !

Naija guys una wicked
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You don't have it. I have sent my email already and the answer I got was thanks the error will be corrected. He says infact he merely wanted to reflect difference between the two ships (MEKO360H1 and H2) in terms of their armament. One is armed with Otomat as opposed to the other/latter which is armed with Exocet. The variant was picked from wikipedia just like I speculated. Soon, there will be no such misleading source.

Nigeria does not have Otomat MK2. Fact!!! What they only have is Otomat MK1 (without datalink) with the range of 60KM.

Henry120:

Your SANDF is a HIV carrying incompetent force. You wish you had the battle experience of the Nigerian military.

Nigerian army fields multiple grenade launchers on Armoured personnel carriers, the Navy fields them on gun-boats and vessels.

The nigerian infantry man carries an AK-74 with a grenade launcher. Grenade launchers are nothing new.

HIV is a virus. It doesn't affect combat performance. A HIV positive soldier,well trained and in good can perform better than a HIV negative soldier. All(grenade launchers) which aren't any close to the Y2 grenade launcher.

agaugust:

No fool, South African Y3 Grenade launcher maximum range is 2.2 km. Nigerian Dshk heavy machine gun range is 5.4 km

Nigerian infantry will delete all South African infantry and their unlucky grenade launchers from 5.4 km away

http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNRussian_12.7mm-79_DShK.htm

NA infantry firepower is superior to SANDF firepower

PHOTO : NIGERIAN ARMY INFANTRY LONG RANGE DSHK MACHINE GUN

You wanna bring up heavy machine guns?. The DShK is an anti-craft gun though use it in a ground. The Soviet made SANDF KPV has an effective firing range of 3km,while the DshK has an effective firing range of 2km. . Also the M6 60mm mortar has a range of 6Km. If you're gonna bring up vehicle mounted systems. You'll make me posts the 4km range Brandt 60mm mortar. The Scorpion vehicle mounted automatic mortar. The Zumlac.

Denel Dynamics is upgrading and improving its range of air defence, air-to-air and anti-armour missiles as it continues developing its product line and focus on future missiles.

The Umkhonto naval surface-to-air missile has been sold to three users, including the South African Navy, Finland and an undisclosed customer. Denel is planning to deploy the Umkhonto in the ground based air defence system (GBADS) environment and has recently tested the weapon from a ground based launcher, destroying targets at a range of 20 km, an improvement of 5 km. A ground based version would incorporate a Reutech radar and Denel command post and launcher.

http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=35380:denel-dynamics-upgrading-missile-range&catid=7:Industry&Itemid=116

Missiles and aerospace house Denel Dynamics plans to nearly double is revenue over the next five years to nearly R2 billion and will do so in part by investing in new products and growing skills.

http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=35349:denel-dynamics-poised-for-growth&catid=7:Industry&Itemid=116

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