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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 9:22am On Jul 30, 2014 |
kikuyu1:If true. We might also see the KDF getting new infantry fighting vehicles. Also the contract might include bridge layers,recovery vehicles etc. This leaves the question on whether the KDF is planning to shift towards a NATO logistics system type of trail. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 10:14am On Jul 30, 2014 |
kikuyu1: Gentleman, problem I see is that only your talks about Kenya buying Merkava tanks. Testing/Demo on your grounds does not mean you will buy it, South Africa tested Leopard tanks on their soil some time ago, but no money to buy it. Wonder how Kenya wants $6 million per unit tanks to fight who? Islamic terrorists taking civilians hostage in Nairobi shopping mall? Just does not make sense. Rather, Kenya needs COIN weapons and electronic equipment for current security problems. Indian Saryu OPV for Kenya, I am yet to find a source for that too except the same . Could be right, but better if another source says it too. No hard feelings, the stories just seem to have weak source. Kenyan KDF is still a better combat force than South African SANDF, you fight, they sleep ![]() ![]() |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 10:21am On Jul 30, 2014 |
MikeZA: Desperate. Here's a legendary Koevoet "hunter" a real master of COIN ops. [size=14pt]Bwahaha...South African army COIN 'experienced' soldiers will go to combat on wheelchairs ![]() They will be invited to come and defend South Africa from old people's charity homes ![]() Boko Haram will carry them away in Toyota, demand 500 million Rand ransome from Zuma ![]() PHOTO 1 : SOUTH AFRICA'S CRIPPLED AND HALF DEAD EXPERIENCED SOLDIERS PHOTO 2 : NIGERIA'S YOUNG BLOOD SUPER STRONG EXPERIENCED SOLDIERS Who has the strongest military in Africa? Easy guess to make a list of rankings.
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 10:36am On Jul 30, 2014 |
[size=14pt] Update : Nigeria's new purchase of 40 combat/transport helicopters will be... America : 30 helicopters Russia : 10 helicopters These helicopters will be arriving Nigerian Air Force base in the next 7 days ! Nigeria dwarfs South Africa's 11 units Rooivalk combat helicopter force. Who has the strongest military in Africa? You still dey ask? South Africans in a state of shock ![]() ![]() ![]() "It was learnt that the government had imported 40 helicopter gunships from the US and Russia. They are expected to arrive the country first week of August. The Federal Government has purchased some fighter helicopters for this operation; about 40 helicopter gunships have been imported out of which over 30 are from the US while the rest are from Russia." http://www.punchng.com/news/fg-to-deploy-600-commandos-in-damboa/ .
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by dragon2(m): 11:06am On Jul 30, 2014 |
patches689: Arguments aside,shale gas is really a ponzi scheme. Secondly, it is not economical except you have have and maintain record oil and gas prices.If they remain at record level then Nigeria can tap her huge heavy fuel reserves. (over thirteen billion barrels of oil/tar sands.) As an aside venezuelas oil and tar sand reserves are astonishing. http://www.4thmedia.org/2014/05/washingtons-shale-boom-going-bust-the-shale-revolution-is-but-a-ponzi-scheme/ http://www.theecologist.org/News/news_analysis/2442482/fracking_the_us_monterey_shales_96_downgrade_blows_the_scam.html http://rt.com/op-edge/us-shale-revolution-ponzi-fraud-549/ http://www.forbes.com/sites/ericagies/2011/06/27/industry-insiders-call-shale-gas-a-ponzi-scheme-invoke-enron-nyt-report/ http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-fracked-up-usa-shale-gas-bubble/5326504 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by dragon2(m): 11:19am On Jul 30, 2014 |
Shell looks to sell US shale portfolio after $2bn writedown By Guy Chazan Royal Dutch Shell is to sell its position in the Eagle Ford shale in Texas, two months after announcing a big writedown on the value of its US shale assets. Shell took impairments of $2.1bn in the second quarter, mostly related to its tight oil assets in North America, and said it had launched a strategic review of its shale portfolio there. Shell said that as part of the review, it had decided that its properties in the Eagle Ford, where it owns 106,000 acres and operates 192 wells, “do not meet our global targets for materiality and scale” but that they “offer a valuable growth opportunity for another operator”. A sale would end the company’s more than 50-year history in South Texas. Like other majors such as ExxonMobil, Shell was relatively late to the US shale boom, which was driven by smaller, independent oil companies. Their use of techniques such as horizontal drilling and hydraulic fracturing or fracking – which involves injecting large volumes of water, sand and chemicals into shale formations to create fractures and release the oil and gas trapped inside – unlocked huge reserves that were long considered uncommercial. By the time Shell and the other oil majors began to build up big positions in areas like the Barnett Shale in Texas and the Eagle Ford, the big surge in shale gas output had caused a sharp drop in gas prices, hurting the majors’ earnings. Rex Tillerson, chief executive of Exxon, which became a big player in shale gas after its $41bn acquisition of XTO Energy in 2010, admitted last year that the company was suffering as a result of weak gas prices. Shell said it was dealing with the gas glut problem by switching its focus from gas to liquid-rich shales. But despite that, its North American exploration and production business remains in trouble: it suffered a loss in the second quarter and is expected to remain in the red for the rest of this year at least. Shell has also announced plans to sell 600,000 acres in the Mississippi Lime formation in Kansas, and to exit a shale oil research project in Colorado. http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/c2298e46-29ae-11e3-9bc6-00144feab7de.html#axzz38wgwwdJ2 |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 11:30am On Jul 30, 2014 |
AugustineAgain:His not a soldier. And he was never part of the army. He was a member of koevoet engaged in fire fights more than 200 times. If you had read more books about COIN ops in Africa it is almost impossible not to came across his name. Experienced in what? Failing to retake the town of Damboa? The mission in the North is failing. Your president and his military advisors underestimated BH,last year he said after 4 months of state of emergency BH will be destroyed. We know he had to fire his chiefs of staff,200 girls kidnapped,more than 1000 civilian kills,hundreds of your soldiers killed after 4 months of emergency rule. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 11:39am On Jul 30, 2014 |
Henry120: lol. We have modern GBAD's You do not. What are you even talking about? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 11:45am On Jul 30, 2014 |
Henry120: On the T-72 and merkava, an upgraded T-72 is just as good as the merkava the Israelis deploy. It is when you add the force structure (artillery, airforce, navy), that the merkava is on a different level. HA! Are you insane? The T-72 is one of the worst tanks in the world - look at any war it has ever fought in for proof. Stop calling S.A weapons, you got nothing of note outside MRAPs. 1. Rooivalk - Nigeria has no comparison 2. Badger IFV -Nigeria has no comparison 3. G6 -Nigeria has no comparison 4. G5 - Nigeria has no comparison 5. Oilifant Mk2 - Nigeria has no comparison 6. NTW-20 - Nigeria has no comparison 7. Rooikat - Nigeria has no comparison 8. Umkhonto missile - Nigeria has no comparison 9. Ingwe Missile - Nigeria has no comparison 10. Mokopa Missile - Nigeria has no comparison. 11. Y3 AGL - Nigeria has no comparison 12. Milkor MGL - Nigeria has no comparison And that is just offensive weapons. Do you wish to discuss general equipment? [size=15pt]Remeber: Most of these weapons listed above HAVE BEEN SOLD TO OTHER NATIONS.[/size] 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 11:47am On Jul 30, 2014 |
Henry120: See: patches689: |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 11:52am On Jul 30, 2014 |
agaugust: Vickers Eagle MBT of both Nigeria and Kenyan armies are digitalized tanks No they are not. Do you even know what digitized means? these are the only two countries that use Vickers Eagle of that version in this world, both countries got 1990s deliveries and had major digital upgrades confirmed with images and narrations from Beegeagle and Military Today website...it has video of the Vickers upgrades used by Nigeria and Kenya. That is just a flat out lie Both countries do NOT need new MBT now, they need COIN weapons and equipment of the best capability available at reasonable prices in the market. Tanks play a role in COIN. Mobile bunkers to defend strategic positions. The MBT is the quint-essential force multiplier for the infantry. Maybe you could get Boko Haram to stop slaughtering your civilians if you deployed some MBT's and attached infantry to defend towns? Merkava main battle tanks won't stop Islamic terrorists b.ombing Kenyan shopping malls. There is a better way to spend $6 million x 40 tanks = $240 million. Unlike cowardly Nigeria, Kenya has persued its enemies into Somalia where it fights a LICW war against them... and guess what... you need tanks in LICW Kenya needs to buy Nigeria's type of new sophisticated COIN equipment. Nigeria has no "new sophisticated COIN equipment" - pic related Nigerian air force now has fresh delivery of the most sophisticated surveillance aircraft in all Africa , even Egypt is now envying us. No you didnt and no they are not. 1 Like
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 11:57am On Jul 30, 2014 |
agaugust: I fixed your post for you Also: #SANDF.EATS.HUMBLE.PIE.3 SQUARE MEALS.DAILY DOSAGE Nigerian soil is permanently occupied by Boko Haram - All South AFrican soil belongs to the SANDF #NigerianArmyHasHumblePieForcedUpItsBumByBokoHaram (it rhymes ![]() ![]() Call as when the Nigerian Army can secure all Nigerian territory |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 11:58am On Jul 30, 2014 |
agaugust: Cool story. Pity you are linking an obsolete weapons system to a poorly trained command network. Ie: You connected two poo's with some string ![]() ![]() |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 11:59am On Jul 30, 2014 |
agaugust: Now this guy is telling us about UFO sightings? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 12:01pm On Jul 30, 2014 |
agaugust: Nigeria has never fought a "modern war" in its entire history. We have fought 3 and our fighter pilots fought in another on top of that (where they were awarded a US Presidential Unit Citation) You guys dont even have the theory or textbooks ![]() ![]() |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 12:02pm On Jul 30, 2014 |
agaugust: And you cannot brag when they dont tell you what they did Idiot |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 12:04pm On Jul 30, 2014 |
AugustineAgain: About 50% of Nigerian military capability details CANNOT be found by your internet google searches. You are wasting your time bragging about information which has been denied to you Also: About 50% of SANDF military capability details CANNOT be found by your internet google searches. You are just wasting your time ranting about information of which access has been denied to you. #KilledByHisOwnArgument 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 12:04pm On Jul 30, 2014 |
AugustineAgain: You first |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 12:08pm On Jul 30, 2014 |
AugustineAgain: Nigerians are less educated than South Africans. Hence, if you call our men rag tag bushmen hunters and illiterates... what are you implying about your own men? Subhumans? Pic related "Rag Tag bushmen hunters" 2 Likes
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 12:17pm On Jul 30, 2014 |
kikuyu1: One simple reason. It is the only modern MBT from the "west" to have suffered a vehicle penetration and a crew fatalitys*. And to be honest I think most modern MBT's are over-rated: Leclerc, Type 10, Altay, Arjun (probably the worst tank to go into production in the last 20 years), T-90 (it has some good upgrade packages though) and even the T-80 (best tank the Russians ever made - but still sh1t) Its only really the Chally 2 (with Street-fighter upgrade) or Abrams (after the introduction of the DU armor) and the Leo 2 (because of other considerations like cost and willingness to export top-tier models) that are worth a damn. I also think that the K2 Black Panther will be a world leader if they put what they say they are going to put into it. *Excluding the Iraqi M1A1Ms that have been wrecked by ISIS - but thats what you get when you take off the DU layer. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 12:19pm On Jul 30, 2014 |
AugustineAgain: The Border war started in 1965 you fool - of course there will be veterans in their 70's or 80's But it also ended in 1989 and internal COIN ops ended in 1994 - so there are veterans in their mid to late 30's Yet again, you clutch so desperately at straws 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 12:20pm On Jul 30, 2014 |
AugustineAgain: [size=14pt] More imaginary purchases (like the Tucano Augubgugu told us Nigeria had when he first started posting). South Africa has 70 helo's... how many do you have after BH blew up half your airforce? Clown [size=15pt]Pics related real air-power - not imaginary Nigerian purchases. [/size] 1 Like
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by PrinxArthur1(m): 12:55pm On Jul 30, 2014 |
patches689:u 'll find evidence of tucano @ IHS JANE'S DEFENSE WEEKLY |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 1:24pm On Jul 30, 2014 |
PrinxArthur1: u 'll find evidence of tucano @ IHS JANE'S DEFENSE WEEKLY citation please |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 1:41pm On Jul 30, 2014 |
MikeZA: His not a soldier. And he was never part of the army. You said the old men will save you...so they become your soldiers, these grand-papas that cannot even save themselves in battle ![]() ![]() Damboa is a village where the people willingly invite Boko Haram to come and hide there, Nigerian army clears it, the people go invite Boko Haram back again. Nigerian army put garrison there, the villagers murder the same Nigerian soldiers there to protect the village. The peole of Damboa are just like Gaza palestinian civilains hiding Hamaz inside their villages, well Nigeria is avoiding k.illing civilains like Isreali army...world's best army (not most powerful but best in war history with unbeatable skills) have used full Israeli military might to k.ill over 1,000 civilains in Gaza in 3 weeks ! The USA/EU/UN is not complaining about that, but if it was Nigeria that used artillery to wipe out Boko Haram in Damboa, BBC, Saraha Reporters, Al Jazeera, CNN, and Nairaland South African mugus will open their stinking mouth without first using toothpaste and tooth brush to condemn Nigerian army and say our army is incompetent or genocidal....fools ![]() ![]() Anyway, from the on going war in Gaza, it is becoming clear that Nigerian army is equal to or better than the great Israeli army in COIN war, we are not using artillery on Damboa village, we are sending in 600 infantry commandoes to do one-on-one fight with Boko Haram and save the civilian lives there, despite the fact that the civilians happily invited Boko Haram to hide in their Damboa 'Gaza' village. Now more fresh battle experience for a full battalion of young and newly trained Nigerian commandoes...the kind of experience 2014 that 95% of photo-mania South African army and special forces of today 2014 do NOT have but only wish and dream they have ![]() ![]() "It was gathered that the military and the soldiers deployed in that part of Borno State had become very skeptical about the sincerity of the people following the ambushing and killing of an army officer, who was commanding the troop. The source said, “The Army is sceptical about the sincerity of the Damboa people. The situation is such that it has become difficult to separate the people of the area from Boko Haram elements in the area. The place is completely infested. “And that was responsible for the ambushing and killing of the officer, who was in charge of the troops in the area. The leadership of the Nigerian military has concluded arrangement to deploy 600 specially trained commandos in the troubled area of Damboa, Borno State" http://www.punchng.com/news/fg-to-deploy-600-commandos-in-damboa/ .
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 1:43pm On Jul 30, 2014 |
patches689: Another d.eath blow for South Africans whose military does not have anything like Nigeria's new type of twin rotor super lift helicopters ![]() ![]() [size=16pt]"It was learnt that the government had imported 40 helicopter gunships from the US and Russia. They are expected to arrive the country first week of August. The Federal Government has purchased some fighter helicopters for this operation; about 40 helicopter gunships have been imported out of which over 30 are from the US while the rest are from Russia." http://www.punchng.com/news/fg-to-deploy-600-commandos-in-damboa/[/size] .
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 1:53pm On Jul 30, 2014 |
AugustineAgain: Nigeria current tops the world list for casualties from terror at over 3000 people killed by Boko Haram Isreal has lost 4 civilians since the start of the war in the Gaza strip Isreal has lost only 9000 civilians to terror since the late 1800's It is clear that Nigeria is about as equal to Isreal as a turd is equal to a diamond. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 1:57pm On Jul 30, 2014 |
AugustineAgain: Show us a picture of a Chinhook in Nigerian colors. No independent (non-nigerian) source has confirmed these claims. They are but flights of fancy Plus, Boko Haram has helicopters too ![]() ![]() There is very uncomfortable news out of Borno once again further demonstrating the degree of distrust between locals and the Nigerian military drafted to the plagued region. The Nigerian military Mi-35 helicopter that reportedly crashed in Bama earlier this month apparently suffered gunfire, but not from terrorists, according to the latest reports we are receiving from trusted locals. National defense spokesperson Chris Olukolade reported that the crash was ‘not due to enemy action.’ Information gathered by ENDS in Borno has it that locals are confident that this chopper was one of two military helicopters used by Boko Haram terrorists. It has been repeatedly reported that certain helicopters have been seen giving cover to Boko Haram during their attacks on the Nigerian military and civilian-JTF, CJTF. http://www.osundefender.org/?p=179584 Lol - your civilians dont even know what to think anymore ![]() ![]() |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 2:02pm On Jul 30, 2014 |
patches689: Israel is 90% Jewish Bible nation. Nigeria has 90 million people as Islamic citizens. The whole country called Israel is like a small city in Nigeria. The enemy Israel is fighting lives in a different country called Palestine, totally separated by a huge and high impregnable solid concrete-wall. Hamaz Islamists are NOT citizens inside the nation of Israel. Boko Haram has members even inside Nigerian army and Political leadership, Israel is not facing that level of enemy action. Nigerian army has performed better than Israeli army in COIN war 2014, Nigeria now leads the world in COIN combat capability. FACT !!! |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by AugustineAgain: 2:03pm On Jul 30, 2014 |
patches689: Look at this and collapse with epilepsy ![]() ![]() .
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 2:08pm On Jul 30, 2014 |
AugustineAgain: Israel is 90% Jewish Bible nation. Nigeria has 90 million people as Islamic citizens. The whole country called Israel is like a small city in Nigeria. Irrelevant The enemy Israel is fighting lives in a different country called Palestine, totally separated by a huge and high impregnable solid concrete-wall. And has that wall stood since the late 1800's? Hamaz Islamists are NOT citizens inside the nation of Israel. Irrelevant Boko Haram has members even inside Nigerian army and Political leadership, Israel is not facing that level of enemy action. Because the Isrealys have a competant Intelligence community and their military is not corrupt, disloyal and inept like Nigeria Nigerian army has performed better than Israeli army in COIN war 2014, Nigeria now leads the world in COIN combat capability. Wow, just wow. Kindly show us where Hamas controls Isrealy land - because I can show you where Boko Haram controlls Nigerian land Show us 3000 dead isrealys in 3 years Show us Hamas attacking prizons and releasing prisoners Show us Hamas attacking airbases and destroying half of Isreals attack helicopters Show us Hamas slaughtering Isrealy settlements. Isreal has lost 7 civilians this year Nigeria has lost over 500 HAMAS is on its knees. Boko Haram is escalating its attacks and capturing land Nigeria is a joke. Your military couldent fight its way out of a paper bag, and Goodluck acknowledged this got on his knees and kissed the feet of Western leaders begging for help. Maybe you should #BringBackOurGirls before you brag of being good at anything 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 2:10pm On Jul 30, 2014 |
AugustineAgain: Well done, you posted a picture of a Chinhook that was sent over for evaluation and never purchased. Nigeria has no Chinhooks in service - FACT 2 Likes |
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