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Re: Oil Pipelines Dynamited in the Niger Delta by otitoloju(m): 3:07pm On Dec 30, 2005 |
@Ono I have no interest to join issues with you on this matter. I also dont think you need to start sounding like we are having a "roforofo" fight. I have said my bit. Cheers |
Re: Oil Pipelines Dynamited in the Niger Delta by ono(m): 3:59pm On Dec 30, 2005 |
If u are so good at working out what Delta produced and contributed to the National Purse, then, I expect you to be able to work out what Ogun State has contributed too, my friend. Seems to me that you are a PE (Petroleum Engineer). Please work it out. All you need do is to go to the state's Finance Ministry. At least I know of Agbara industrial area. And I hear it's booming with business activities now. So, something must be coming from Ogun too, abi? |
Re: Oil Pipelines Dynamited in the Niger Delta by owo(m): 5:25pm On Dec 30, 2005 |
@otitoloju : Nigeria owns 60% in all the JV's except shell where it owns 55%. That comes to about 57.5% and not 51%. What are the cash-call requirements? It is the same money from the Niger Delta that is re-invested...as cashcall. So what meanest thou? Apart from bonga that just started producing ( around sept 05) about 25kbpd... no other 'deep water' is producing. In all... we are still awaiting the computation of what Ogun State or all the other states apart from those exempted by Ono are contibuting to the National Coffers. |
Re: Oil Pipelines Dynamited in the Niger Delta by otokx(m): 12:03pm On Dec 31, 2005 |
My governor Chief James Ibori is not a thief (at least neither the police nor EFCC has said so yet). All those OMPADEC, PTF, NDDC are only propaganda tools in the hands of the federal government which amounts to frontin. No one no matter how highly empowered financially or spiritually can suppress the truth which i will try to always speak. |
Re: Oil Pipelines Dynamited in the Niger Delta by ariel(f): 4:25pm On Jan 01, 2006 |
Hi guys, this is interesting @ ono hey take it easydon't get too heated up with passion, we all know that the Nigerian govt and their cohorts are theives one day the oil will dry up and the Niger deltans with their polluted land and water will be OYO or rather OTO, and all their other brothers will go into their coffers, farm produce cocoa, groundnut, etc and control their own resources claiming true federalism, but now it's Niger Delta's turn, it's federal govt's money, we all know it's cheating. Recently a terminal in this country under a week loaded 1.5MMbbls of oil, and between 3rd to 6th jan 06, that same location will lift 2MMbbls, now compare it to the three other terminals in this country on an averge weekly loading of 4MMbbls of oil is lifted from the shores of this nation, what is a paltry 13% of this whole bulk? and why is there nothing to write home about in this nation as a whole, why is unemployment rife in this nation and why are people (certain calibre) increasing their swiss bank accts? |
Re: Oil Pipelines Dynamited in the Niger Delta by otokx(m): 10:16am On Jan 03, 2006 |
we have other natural resources besides oil and gas. such resources include oil palm plantations, rubber plantations, fish ponds, lots of rivers, we are home to the largest sswamp and mangroove habitat in the entire world not to talk of the human resource. |
Re: Oil Pipelines Dynamited in the Niger Delta by otitoloju(m): 4:43pm On Jan 03, 2006 |
owo:@Owo. My mistake. In the Shell JV NNPC owns 51%, the remaining 49% is split between Shell, Agip and Elf. Shell sholud own about 40% of it. I want you to understand that by breaking down the figures i was not trying to say Ogun or any other states contributes as much to the national coffers as Delta or any other producing state. I was trying to put things in perspective. We all grew up with the story of immense wealth that we tend to get carried away by the figures. I support a minimum of 50% derivation. I have been the Niger Delta area for over 14years and i find it hard to reconcile the level of development to output; it's like day and night. That said i wish to say that i believe that our problem as a nation has not been in the area of natural resource - every part of the country has something that can be a money spinner - our problem has always been in the area of adding value. So instead of exporting refined petroleum products and bye-products we export the crude. Instead of using gas in petrochemical plants, methanol plants (a money spinner) we flare it or at best we liquefy it ( a recent development). We export cocoa beans instead of cocoa butter, powder etc. Adding value to resources creates jobs and also creates other opportunities. Example; South Africa invested the equivalent of 770billion naira in infrastructure in the Mpumalanga province (created after the first democratic elections in 1994). Today that province generates the equivalent of 1.2 trillion naira per year from manufacturing industry and the labour-intensive hospitality industry. Imagine Delta, Rivers and Bayelsa controlling their resources and adding value to it..... Imagine the middle belt states adding value to their agricultural outputs....... Imagnie Ondo and Oyo adding value to their cocoa..... Just imagine...... let your mind run wild |
Re: Oil Pipelines Dynamited in the Niger Delta by ono(m): 5:04pm On Jan 03, 2006 |
Otito, if u must know, there are a lot of folks out there with their minds running pretty wild with ideas on adding values to all those things u've listed. I don't know how to put this, but our so-called leaders, looters, really, are responsible for most (90%) of our woes. I will continue to pray to God for good leaders, and that if there are none, Himself (God) should come and lead us in this country. The remaining 10% lies with us. I want to make a clarion call to all the folks on this forum to go out there - do not be timid, do not be afraid of doing the right thing, and if u know you're with us on this sanitisation of our political landscape, then get ready to vote OUT evil men from our lands in 2007. Someone said don't ask the Lord to guide your footsteps if you are not willing to move your feet. We've got to go all out and VOTE the right folks in the right place. When God sees that we're really willing to get good leaders He'll help us put the right person there. But a situation where we only talk and talk about good leaders, leadership, and then we go home and meet the evil folks at night and strategise on how to defraud the land the more- just like OBJ's doing, will not help free us from the doldrums we're currently in. We have to fight corruption with all our hearts and soul and spirits. Then will the Lord hear from heaven and heal our lands. |
Re: Oil Pipelines Dynamited in the Niger Delta by Ojukwursg(m): 6:06pm On Jan 03, 2006 |
The exploding pipelines are signs of pent up anger and frustration being let out by a people so deprived of their basic rights. Our elders say it is sheer wickedness to spank a child and then ask him not to cry. Niger Deltans are maginalised and brutalised daily. They are humilated and many of their spokemen killed, maimed, or imprisoned in the name of Government protecting the interest of the nation. The fact remains that even if Niger Deltans are given 100% of the resource derivec from their community, Nigeria corporate existence will not be threathened. Or how many of the 130 million Nigerian are actually benefiting from the oils from the Delta area? By foreign medi analysis, less than 1%. Be that as it may, the government of Nigeria should know that the people of Nigeria are not interested in the argument put before them for the milliterisation of the Delta. For all we care, it is for the sake of oil. Oil has been a major curse for Nigerians, the earlier it is dispensed with, the better for all. |
Re: Oil Pipelines Dynamited in the Niger Delta by owo(m): 9:05am On Jan 04, 2006 |
@otitoloju: thanks.... but note that NNPC owns 55% of SPDC, Shell 25% while Elf and Agip share the remaining 20%. I guess you are mistaking this for the LNG where NNPC has 49%, Shell 30% wile the rest is shared btw Agip and Elf. I should know 'cos I'm part of the team that runs the business. @Ono- More grease to your 'elbows'In my earlier posts , I had canvassed for clear cut, decisive action by all well meaning souls in this country. No effort should be spared at driving out the current imposters. Stealing and raping the Niger Delta is only one of their stock-in-trade. If we remain quiet, they will sell us alive(if they have not done so already). |
Re: Oil Pipelines Dynamited in the Niger Delta by otokx(m): 12:31pm On Jan 05, 2006 |
make una take am easy o |
Re: Oil Pipelines Dynamited in the Niger Delta by otitoloju(m): 5:05pm On Jan 05, 2006 |
@Owo. I stand corrected @Ono. You've said it all. |
Re: Oil Pipelines Dynamited in the Niger Delta by otokx(m): 8:12am On Jan 16, 2006 |
it appears more pipelines have just been blown together with a flowstation; the government had better put its acts together and provide basic infrastructures such as good roads, health care and electricity across the country. |
Re: Oil Pipelines Dynamited in the Niger Delta by omon(m): 3:30pm On Jan 16, 2006 |
How can they provide such infastructures when workers are being abducted, work equipments vandalised and dynamites planted everywhere? |
Re: Oil Pipelines Dynamited in the Niger Delta by owo(m): 7:31am On Jan 17, 2006 |
omon: How can infrastructures be provided? By providing the infrastructures. If you still do not understand, ask me. After 50 years of oppresion, killing, discrimination and no desire to provide these things, it is today that they will start providing it. |
Re: Oil Pipelines Dynamited in the Niger Delta by ono(m): 11:35am On Jan 17, 2006 |
Mai bros, abeg, tell Omon o! |
Re: Oil Pipelines Dynamited in the Niger Delta by Jakumo(m): 6:54pm On Jan 17, 2006 |
Thirteen Nigerian soldiers lost their lives two days ago in the storming of a Shell petroleum flow-station by armed boatmen in the Delta, and the headline of the Nigeria Vanguard newspaper of Tuesday January 17 2005 reads " War in Niger Delta". While the demolition of oil pipelines has been frequent in the Niger Delta area recently, a sustained attack deliberately aimed at inflicting mass casualties on military personnel marks a ratcheting up of the violence quotient that one can only hope does not lead to the Vanguard Newspaper's bleak prognosis. Looking about at the anarchy in Ibadan and the bedlam in Yenagoa, some may even conclude that the opening chapters of the Second Nigerian Civil War have already been quietly unfolding for months prior to today's newspaper headlines. I hope they are wrong. |
Re: Oil Pipelines Dynamited in the Niger Delta by ono(m): 9:02am On Jan 18, 2006 |
Re: Oil Pipelines Dynamited in the Niger Delta by Dagogo(m): 8:52pm On Jan 18, 2006 |
Each passing day one hear or is disturbed by the troubles in the Niger-Delta the thing is the govt.now and before never thought it wise discussing the problem in the area with the representatives of the people of the area they forgot that the youths and the militants are children with mothers and fathers in the area they are not demons but ordinary people like me and you. The problem is the govt does not want to adopt the appropriate mode of settling the dispute which is dialogue with authentic leaders of the peopleand until then the problem lingers on |
Re: Oil Pipelines Dynamited in the Niger Delta by Seun(m): 10:42pm On Jan 18, 2006 |
This is what happens when you give guns to frustrated young men instead of opening up opportunities for self-development and prosperity. They will want to practice their hard-earned skills. |
Re: Oil Pipelines Dynamited in the Niger Delta by ono(m): 9:21am On Jan 20, 2006 |
Reuben Abati, erudite scholar, mentor, and prolific writer is one person I don't joke with his views. He has aired his views again on the contentious issue of the Niger Delta Question. It is a balanced view. I recommend this write up to all those peace loving people on this forum. If you are the type who hates long postings, please stay clear. And don't start throwing stones at me. Fresh wounds in the Niger Delta By Reuben Abati THE current crisis in the Niger Delta in form of the transformation of that region into a mini-Iraq with aggrieved citizens taking oil workers hostage, and demanding ransom as if they were disciples of Osama Bin Laden is the inevitable outcome of the failure of the Nigerian state and the professional political class to address the politics of oil. It can only get worse and it will. It would appear that the youths of the Niger Delta have finally discovered how best to treat and beat the Nigerian state. In the past week, they have kidnapped four oil workers: a Briton, a Honduran, an American, and a Bulgarian. They have seized two vessels, and attacked three flow stations. They are threatening to move from one oil major to the other. They call themselves Movement for the Emancipation of the Niger Delta (MEND). Each time radical militants of the Niger Delta seize oil flow stations, kidnap oil workers and inflict punishment on Nigerian security forces, the international price of crude oil shoots up. The daily production output of the oil companies in the Delta drops, and so Nigeria loses revenue. Oil theft is made easier, and perhaps more important for the purpose of the militias, the international community focuses afresh on the problems of the Niger Delta. Their action is dramatic. The effect is even more so. Shell which depends on the Niger Delta for ten per cent of its global oil production, as well as the other oil majors are already used to crises of this nature. There can be no doubt that they consider violent attacks on their processes and installations, part of the price to be paid for doing business in Nigeria. Shell has evacuated over 300 of its staff. Chevron has suspended some of its operations. But they will return either as partners of the Nigerian state or of the commanders of the Niger Delta, depending on how the coming showdown is resolved. The main challenge lies in how six, seven years into civilian democracy, the Nigerian government has not been able to make any progress in the Niger Delta. The situation in that region worsened during military rule especially under General Sani Abacha who unleashed a regime of terror and repression on the people, killing Ken Saro-Wiwa, the MOSOP activist and eight others. Abacha turned the people against one another and sacked communities. There was some respite under General Abdusalami Abubakar whose main contribution was to organise fresh elections and hand over to civilians. But with the return to civilian rule in 1999, it was expected that there would be ample opportunities for addressing the injustice, the abuse of human rights, the repression and the exploitation which had driven the people of the Niger Delta to the wall. Unfortunately, the response of the Obasanjo administration has been characterised by a disconnect between form and substance. Take the Niger Delta Development Commission (NDDC) set up by Obasanjo administration in 1999 to replace the ineffective Oil Mineral Producing Areas Development Commission (1992). This is the ad-hoc structure which is supposed to facilitate development in the Niger Delta by identifying and addressing the urgent needs of the people as a complement to the efforts of the state governments and the Corporate Social Responsibility contributions of the oil majors. There is a lot that the NDDC has been able to achieve: schools that have been built, bridges and other social infrastructure, chairs that have been taken to schools, new access roads, but all these do not amount to much. Years of neglect, inequity and deep-seated contempt make whatever is done for the people of the Niger Delta appear too little too late, and coming from the same Obasanjo that has not shown much sympathy, mere sop. Besides, the NDDC is grossly under-funded. It is saddled with an assignment that covers about nine states, over 300 communities, each with its own peculiar and costly needs, lack of adequate funding limits its capacity. And because its commissioners are political appointees representing different states and interests, NDDC is further hobbled by the placement of politics before the development agenda. The oil companies are not helping to fund the NDDC adequately since in any case they have their own community development projects or so they claim. The state governments are of no help either. In the last six years, states of the Niger Delta have received more money than at any other time in Nigerian history, but this has not translated into any concrete difference. The youths of the Delta are aware of the existence of the NDDC, but when they see a road there or a school there, and they place that beside the amount of oil that has been taken from the Delta since 1956, they are not impressed. They want more. When they are snubbed or asked to go and ask their state Governors for greater accountability, they get angry. Take also the government's peace-making strategies: Each time the people revolted either as aggrieved farmers or housewives, both the oil companies and government were wont to negotiate with and make peace with the local elite in the persons of traditional rulers, or youth leaders for whom something is packaged either in form of contracts or cash inducements. Thus, a self-seeking kleptocratic elite has since emerged in the Niger Delta which does not in any way represent the interests of the people. It is even a cheated elite. The angry youths who have since formed themselves into formidable militias have exposed the limitations of that rent-collecting elite and its manipulation by the state. The other year, one traditional ruler was chased out of town by aggrieved youths who accused him of stealing money meant for the community. Youth leaders have also been sanctioned in many communities. Unlike the rent-collectors, the angry youths of the militias see themselves as revolutionaries. They are the ones now dictating the pace of the politics of the mangrove forest. No one should be surprised that there is no Niger Delta elite who can confidently condemn what these angry youths are doing. Such a leader may find it difficult to return home. So, in that sense, the strategy by the Nigerian state of using selected Niger Delta leaders against the people has failed. A third grand strategy against the Niger Delta has been the use of violence, and the harassment of the rebels. The scope of repression in the Niger Delta is enormous. Even in ordinarily peaceful circumstances, soldiers are stationed in the region. Ordinary persons going about their businesses are searched. In their own environment, the people are subjected to constant harassment by agents of the state. Human rights abuse in terms of the despoliation of the environment, killings and the pauperisation of the people over the years have combined to create in the average Niger Deltan a feeling of discomfort and resentment towards Nigeria. Between 1996 and 2000 for example, more than five military Task Forces were set up to keep the people of the Niger Delta in check. These include the Rivers State Internal Security Task Force, Operation Salvage, Operation Flush, Operation Storm, Operation Sweep, and Operation Restore Hope. What the militias of the Niger Delta have now advertised is the limits of the use of repression as a tool of state engineering. The militias in the current confrontation are obviously as equipped if not better equipped than the Nigerian army. They are turning their guns and rockets on Nigerian soldiers. They are mowing down these soldiers and collecting oil company workers as hostages. They are speaking up for all marginalised minorities who are not recognised in Section 55 of the Constitution. They have even given an ultimatum. They want their leader, Asari Dokubo released or by February 1, they would hit at the soft underbelly of the Nigerian state and halt all oil exploration activities in the Niger Delta. If President Obasanjo had thought that by arresting and charging Asari Dokubo to court, the militias of the Niger Delta would be cowed, he is now mistaken. The Niger Delta militias are waging a kind of Holy War against Nigeria. It is a war of nerves. It is a costly war. For every Asari Dokubo that is arrested, there are many more in the creeks who are willing to take up arms. When Asari Dokubo is taken to court, he wears an Isaac Adaka Boro T-shirt. He abuses the judge that is hearing his case. His T-shirt is a symbolic statement. His attack on the judge is an attack on the Nigerian state. So what would the President do? Will he declare war against the Niger Delta? Or a state of emergency? Or will he eat the humble pie? Now we know: no one has a monopoly of madness. This is the answer to the crazy failure of the Nigerian state to give the people of the Niger Delta an opportunity to articulate and canvass their aspirations. Under civilian rule, the psychological assault has been particularly intense. At the National Conference, delegates from the South -South had to stage a walk-out because the North bluntly refused to entertain their demand for resource control. The 19 states of the North even went to court to challenge the derivation formula. South-South leaders are insisting that the President of Nigeria must come from the South-South in 2007, the Northern elite have more or less told them to shut up. When the people of the Niger Delta further remind the Nigerian state of their contributions to the Nigerian economy through their ownership of crude oil, which accounts for 90 per cent of national revenue, they are told that the oil belongs to the North. This was mouthed by Northern leaders at the National Conference but it is given an intellectual coverage in a booklet by Yusufu Bala Usman and Alkasum Abba: The Misrepresentation of Nigeria: The Facts and the Figures (May 2000) under what the authors call "the geological and hydrological realities of Nigeria" and "the formation of the Niger Delta". The young men in the creeks hear all these, and they are convinced that the only language that Nigeria can understand is that of violence. Where now are those loud mouths, those arm-chair geologists who always claim that the oil in the delta is no more than sedimentary deposits flowing from the North to the South. Where are those oligarchs who push the view that the Presidency is too good for the South-South? The Niger Delta is the most vulnerable part of the Nigerian fabric. The present drift requires more creative thinking on the part of the state. Who are the sponsors of the militias in the Delta? How did they manage to smuggle their sophisticated arms into the country? Do they keep any bank accounts? If so, who is their banker? Are there fifth columnists involved? Is the conflict stage-managed? President Obasanjo in six years has succeeded in offending so many stakeholders, should any one or group feel determined enough to ambush and sabotage his government, the easiest battlefield is the Niger Delta where the hunted is now the hunter. If anyone wants to disrupt Nigeria and make it ungovernable, all he needs to do is to rent the militias in the Niger Delta and stop the oil pipelines from flowing. Armed robbers, saboteurs and professional terrorists can also take advantage of the situation. By refusing to allow dialogue on the issues of resource allocation and power sharing, the Nigerian state has created war within its own borders. Until the Niger Delta question is resolved, Nigeria sits on a carton of explosives and turns its face towards fire. |
Re: Oil Pipelines Dynamited in the Niger Delta by owo(m): 11:49am On Jan 20, 2006 |
ono: A great truth, this is. What more can mere mortals say. |
Re: Oil Pipelines Dynamited in the Niger Delta by demmy(m): 6:54pm On Jan 20, 2006 |
Yet its only in one area throughout the Niger Delta all these troubles are brewing from. Bayelsa state and mainly the Ijaws. Bayelsa state according to the Federal Ministry of Finance is recieving more federal allocation than any other state in the country yet nothing to show for it but guns and sponsored kidnappers and other trouble makers while their elites are building houses all over the world. Heard the ogonis make trouble lately? |
Re: Oil Pipelines Dynamited in the Niger Delta by Mariory(m): 1:34am On Jan 21, 2006 |
I just thought I would add a couple of links that seem to shed more light on who these people that claim to be the Movement for the Emancipation of Niger Delta (MEND) really are. http://www.vanguardngr.com/articles/2002/headline/f121012006.html http://www.vanguardngr.com/articles/2002/cover/january06/21012006/f221012006.html |
Re: Oil Pipelines Dynamited in the Niger Delta by owo(m): 1:57pm On Jan 21, 2006 |
demmy: The others are 'waiting' for the Bayelsans to finish. You have just created a stereotype for Bayelsans without solving the issues that led to this present state of affairs. Hoping you can defend your stand. So if they choose to spend their money that way, what is your case? So Ogonis are trouble makers while those that impoverished them and raped their land /environment are peacemakers. Wonders will not cease to happen? |
Re: Oil Pipelines Dynamited in the Niger Delta by issacboro: 2:36pm On Jan 21, 2006 |
Hello i have duly read all your articles but first i must ask is any of you from the niger delta region i bet my answer will be no. Let me explain some thing to which you must understand and please do not be biased in your jurgement. Truly speaking without the niger delta there is no nigeria true or false? In the histroy of nigeria what has any of the regions be it south,north and east contributed to nigerian purse ? Ask yourself this question is it fair for the goose that lays the golden egg to suffer? Look at the top management of all the oil companies you will never find somebody from the niger delta as a top exec all you will find are yorubas,ibos and hausas. This thing that is happenning now is just the tip of the ice berge wait when all the tribes in the niger delta should unite then you know the entity call nigeria will be no more there will be more chaos then you can think and i fear for the innocient man the that will be caught in the cross fire. There is a say when you oppress a a person there is a point he can take it then he has to retaliate back and the time is so close now. Some of you say that US should come to our aid to protect the oil refineries is it your father that put the oil in our land for you to make that foolish remark least i forget you are a bloody yoruba man and ingreat like any other tribe in nigeria that wants to grab everything in his way. Do you have a concience no? Are you thinking straight at all that is worst statement to come out of your mouth and i want you to take it back fast. So you want them to kill everybody because they are fight for there rights you should be slaughtered in your own blood and i hope you rot in hell for ever. You yourself knows that without the niger delta youyr father would not have being able to educate you and the place you work today they cannot pay you where do you think the funds are comming from ok from the cocoa farms in oyo state or the pyramids of groundnut in the north. The wealth of nigeria come from the niger delta and am say 100% of it and the other part do not contribut nothing absolute nothing. Every state should contribute is own quota to the fedral purse not the federal purse allovating to staes from the federal purse this is cheating. We are not operating true federalism we are operating dispotic state. Monkey dey work bamboo dey chop. |
Re: Oil Pipelines Dynamited in the Niger Delta by Mariory(m): 4:34pm On Jan 21, 2006 |
Posted by issac boro I don't know about the past under other governments, but these days I am led to believe that such positions are aquired on merrit. Can you mention anyone from the Niger Delta, whose qualifications surpass those of the people in management right now? Posted by issac boro Such a funny statement. You make this comment and yet below you accuse someone of saying that niger deltans should be slaughtered when you are the one spoiling for a fight. It is amazing to see that you seem to not know that it is niger deltans that would suffer a great deal should a war break out. Posted by issac boro See my comment above Posted by issac boro This is true. It is my hope that in the near future, our political system will change. However people need to learn that violence will never change anything. All it will do is kill more people. There are other ways to acheive this end. As much as Niger Deltans and Ijaws in particular seem to hate the oil companies, they are probably one of the most important factors you can have on your side for this debate. Blowing up their oil facilities and trying to economically sabotage the Nigerian economy will not get any Nigerians or foreign countries on your side. Only pain and blood will result from such actions as has been proved from similar conflicts around the world. |
Re: Oil Pipelines Dynamited in the Niger Delta by issacboro: 4:57pm On Jan 21, 2006 |
You see over the years they have begged to be listened to and nobody bothered to listen to their plight what do expect. They are not asking for much all they want basic infrastructure to live a normal life like every good citizen of a country. Must you ask for food before they know you are hungry. There is no good road,hospitals,schools employments.How do you expect one to leave in such a condition can you. They make billions every day but fail to realise that the soil that they are taking the resources from is diplated and no means to replenish it back. The pollution level is so high that the people there i am surprise how they survive.They are people like you and me not animals. This crime cannot happen in the north or anywhere else in nigeria. They have given the people bad reputation they are now known as thieves and militias you in your heart knows this which is not meant to be. You said that they have no reputable people from the niger delta to man good possitions well that is a fat lie because the best results over the years in jamb and ssce are from niger delta. All they want is a little oppurtunity to blessing that has being bestowed on there soil. Shell cannot do what they are doing now in the niger delta anywhere else in the world they will be driven away. The arm struggle is the only way forward since they refused to dialogue with the people and remmember the confrence they are some time ago have they implemmented the out come no. The government belive force is everything. For every problem there is a solution. |
Re: Oil Pipelines Dynamited in the Niger Delta by Mariory(m): 5:06pm On Jan 21, 2006 |
Posted by issac boro I made no such claim. Please go back and read my comment again. As regards to your other comments, I don't think there is anyone in their right mind who would say that niger deltans have not been treated unfairly. My point is, the activities of what seems to be a minority of niger deltans is not helping their cause one bit. Can you imagine if they had someone like Ken Saro Wiwa alive today. He would achieve so much more today than these idiots (militants, comrades, etc) with guns ever will in their life time. |
Re: Oil Pipelines Dynamited in the Niger Delta by issacboro: 5:26pm On Jan 21, 2006 |
My friend you do not understand what is happenning where have you in the bush. Have forgotten that the goose that lays the golden egg must be feed for it to lay more. You know nigeria now you talk about ken saro wiwa when he tried what did they do to him he was accused of treason and was executed right now i know you are a one of those people that is biased in reasonning. Don't you know that they have gone the dialogue way with out success. When dialogue leads no where force has to be applied. Those people you call criminals will be in heaven before you they will be call meatyr and their names will be in histor as people that fought for there rights and they won. This are the morden day nigerians who will fight for there rights. This is the basics that america was built upon and have you forgetten so fast ukrain when they fought for there rights. You have being given the oppurtunity and the right environment to chase your dreams so please do not deprive anyone of his own dream. What are the means to fight an oppressor is but his own means or tools. We will not turn the other cheek so that they will smack us again. The jews and the palastineans. History is there to verify there actions. May GOD bless there efforts. IF YOU BELIEVE YOU ARE FIGHTING A JUST COURSE THEN CONTINUE AND YOU WILL NOT FAIL> IN NIGERIA NOTHING IS DONE ON MERIT. |
Re: Oil Pipelines Dynamited in the Niger Delta by Mariory(m): 5:51pm On Jan 21, 2006 |
issac boro Saro Wiwa was executed by a dictatorship and the whole of Nigreria suffered greatly for it. Indeed we are still suffering fromit with the all the infrastructural decay we have in the country. I can harzard a guess and say that a democratic government will not go that route. issac boro Then you can expect more bloodshed, majority of which I'm sure you reliase will be niger deltans. The only way you can corner and get more concessions from the federal government is if peaceful means are applied. issac boro Your version of heaven must be different to mine. These people are criminals and they will die like dogs and be forgotten in less than a month if they continue. The end CANNOT justify the means. This is what prevents us from descending into anarchy. The militants have won nothing and will win nothing. The only thing they have so far achieved is the massing of military units in and around Bayelsa and general condemnation from the international community. As for history, it will write itself. issac boro The Ukraine didn't kidnap people, murder Russian personnel, and blow up Russian facilities. You should learn from them and change your ideology. issac boro If you choose to go the route of force then I'm afraid you can expect both cheeks to be smacked repeatedly. This is not a fight you can win by strenght of arms. The actions of the militants is what is depriving you of your dream. The sooner you reliase that the sonner you can start to move closer to achieveing your dream. You cannot expect people to try to understand you when you are commiting murder. RULE OF LAW MUST BE MAINTIANED AND IT WILL BE. |
Re: Oil Pipelines Dynamited in the Niger Delta by owo(m): 4:13pm On Jan 22, 2006 |
@ Mariory : Your statements and answers to the the fundamental questions and issues presented by Isaac Boro leaves much to be desired. These statements confirm that you actively support/aid the dehumanisation that is taking place in the Niger Delta. It is also our understanding that the men who are directing these plundering and utterly despicable rape of a people and their resources are acting out a script that is supported by supposedly sane and 'civilised' men/women. That you do not see the link between the current violent disposition of the inhabitants of the Delta and the cheating / oppression and stealing of the Delta's men / resources is unfortunate and calls for a thorough re-evaluation of your sense of justice, fairness and human kindness. |
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