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Re: People Agitating For Nigeria's Break Up Are Simply Delusional & Ignorant by platinumnk(f): 1:10pm On Mar 21, 2010 |
@oyb- research how The Great Depression in america was ended. Through the building of infastructure and factories. |
Re: People Agitating For Nigeria's Break Up Are Simply Delusional & Ignorant by hatch: 1:33pm On Mar 21, 2010 |
platinumnk: SO i guess the people,the ones that care about this country are people like you that feel it is better we separate. What do we gain for staying together ? And my own question is how will your separation bring about a miracle. You may be as deluded and confused as Gaddafi who has probably the slightest idea on how the separation or break up will miraculously solve all our problems. By the way how may countries are you suggesting we break up into ? And what will form the basis and determining factor ? Or are you also suggesting we follow your deluded break up leader's , Gaddafi opinion we break up into 2 based on religious divide. What a set of deluded goons |
Re: People Agitating For Nigeria's Break Up Are Simply Delusional & Ignorant by Chrisbenogor(m): 2:12pm On Mar 21, 2010 |
Leave platimuk, because she graded road in her village suddenly 10 million Nigerians should die to break up the country and we don't even know if the south will be like north korea. One family with loads of money seizing power and enriching their family, its just shows how naive you lot are and how you lack accurate knowledge of how things work in this country. |
Re: People Agitating For Nigeria's Break Up Are Simply Delusional & Ignorant by platinumnk(f): 5:27pm On Mar 21, 2010 |
^^Funny how you didnt mention South Korea Always afraid of "what ifs" After 50 Years you still want to continue this foolishness? Give it time, lol your delusion is becoming Reality |
Re: People Agitating For Nigeria's Break Up Are Simply Delusional & Ignorant by Nobody: 5:40pm On Mar 21, 2010 |
hatch#: You seem to have no solutions on how we can live together amicably other than random rants. I base my theory on facts, on a particular pattern that has been the trend before and after independence. When an article is written thousands of miles away in Europe, Muslim hordes start massacring Igbos in the North, when a journalist who we have never seen talk less of interacted with makes a random comment about Islam , Igbos are the casualty of slaughter, when a Dutch journalist draws an offensive sketch about Muhammad, Igbos going about their peaceful businesses in the North become victims of human carnage I lived in the North as a student and as a corper, I interacted with those Igbos whose parents lived in Kano during the pre-Biafra war era, I know what I have seen and how I narrowly escaped death during a certain riot. This has not happened once or twice but hundreds of times since the 60s, it shows a lack of repentant behaviour toward these despicable acts of genocide and massacres. Are you asking me for the sake of so called fake peace to live in the same house with someone I know is plotting my downfall? Please speak for yourself and your experiences and stop generalising this whole affair. All this naïve piece of journalism is getting you nowhere, New International Version (©1984) While people are saying, "Peace and safety," destruction will come on them suddenly, as labor pains on a pregnant woman, and they will not escape. |
Re: People Agitating For Nigeria's Break Up Are Simply Delusional & Ignorant by SEFAGO(m): 6:03pm On Mar 21, 2010 |
platinumnk: Interesting you form an analogy with South Korea and North Korea when these two countries have a track record of successs. Even North Korea is 10 times more developed than anywhere in Nigeria. The only difference is that they are socialist/communist. LOL, this is so much different than the Nigerian situation. Moreover the Korean situation was a result of the second world war. further, I am always skeptical of any analogy because they are more often than not spurious in nature. frosbel: Hmm. how are the hausa/northereners plotting your downfall? Nigeria is still a tribal nation after 50 years and that its situation looks ok to me. You mentioned that Igbo people are being slaughtered in the North, but is it because they are igbo or because they are christians. You interacted with igbo people but did you try and find out from hausa people themselves why they used to kill igbo people in the north. By the way separating would serve no different solution, than all the igbo people moving back to alaigbo and staying there, so why not seek the alternative. |
Re: People Agitating For Nigeria's Break Up Are Simply Delusional & Ignorant by hatch: 7:17pm On Mar 21, 2010 |
SEFAGO: @ frosbel I have said it time and time that this frosbel is nothing but a tribal ethnic bigot who blames all the woes of his people on the hausa / muslim / north. Its intersting that people like him sit far away in Uk and call for a deluded breakup from the comfort of Daddy's crib far far away. You think sey na beans abi ? First of all conquer this your hate then gradually you will see reason. All these toy internet soldiers can always make this kind of break up noise You are lucky that the internet provides you a medium to express your deluded thoughts. In the real world people like you would have been charged with treason for instigating such. Any way toothless bulldogs like you are nothing different from Gaddafi. Deluded and confused |
Re: People Agitating For Nigeria's Break Up Are Simply Delusional & Ignorant by Chrisbenogor(m): 7:27pm On Mar 21, 2010 |
platinumnk:Why mention south korea when I see the lights of what the odili's can do. Your delusion makes you think they will become saints when we break up, I laugh in igbo and hausa. Just come to Nigeria and lead the CHARGE I PROMISE TO ESCORT YOU TO ASO ROCK. |
Re: People Agitating For Nigeria's Break Up Are Simply Delusional & Ignorant by ElRazur: 7:30pm On Mar 21, 2010 |
Chrisbenogor: Are you indirectly identifying one the many issues with Nigeria? The clampdown on freedom of expression and speaking out against the government? Nice. Why do someone have to come down before change can be made? I gave a very good example before, which is - During a period of War, the people that actually make the decisions as to where to attack and what not do not engage in the battle, but their decisions are vital. |
Re: People Agitating For Nigeria's Break Up Are Simply Delusional & Ignorant by hatch: 7:35pm On Mar 21, 2010 |
When these our toy internet soldiers who are from this Pro "Nigeria must- break - up" camp decide to buy their return tickets to take the lead then i guess we will take them seriously. [list] [li] Elrazur[/li] [li]frosbel[/li] [li] platinumnk[/li] [li]Ezeuche[/li] [/list] Until then,we can assume that it is the same old noise from the same old gang ! |
Re: People Agitating For Nigeria's Break Up Are Simply Delusional & Ignorant by ElRazur: 7:42pm On Mar 21, 2010 |
hatch#: It get boring going round and round in circles. While I believe time is ripe for another way, I think most people back at home will probably feel the same. I am not actively advocating for war, however there is a big possibility there could be a civil war if Nigerians opt to break up Nigeria because of the resources and interest etc. At this point, I think it is better to embrace any possible outcome - even if that means war - than continuously going down the same way in like we have in the past 5 decades. Again you and a few others do not seem to realise that everyone of us do not have to come home to lead a war perse. War can be fought in many ways, please remember that for next time. |
Re: People Agitating For Nigeria's Break Up Are Simply Delusional & Ignorant by hatch: 7:56pm On Mar 21, 2010 |
ElRazur: Clown, Listen to your self talk ! Very sad that people like you choose to talk like a compass from the 4 cardinal points of your mouth. # Confused and deluded ! thats what you are. |
Re: People Agitating For Nigeria's Break Up Are Simply Delusional & Ignorant by ElRazur: 8:01pm On Mar 21, 2010 |
hatch#: I think you should go back to read my post in the original thread. Again, there is a difference between actively seeking war - warmongering - and saying if war happens then it happens. Surely, you can see these are two different things? The fact remains, I do not have to be at home to fight IF there is a war. Wars can be fought in many ways. There is nothing rubbish about what am saying, but I guess if you cannot counter my points after removing the misconception you have, it is cool to attack the man right? It is called ad hominem. |
Re: People Agitating For Nigeria's Break Up Are Simply Delusional & Ignorant by henry101(m): 8:07pm On Mar 21, 2010 |
Eziachi: I dont think the delusional ones would read and understand this piece. Very easy to comprehend. |
Re: People Agitating For Nigeria's Break Up Are Simply Delusional & Ignorant by Nobody: 8:19pm On Mar 21, 2010 |
hatch#: Hatch you are a typical dictator, those who do not agree with you should be charged with treason. God forbid that someone like you should ever smell the corridors of power. It is specifically people like you in the same brand as Mugabe et al that totally hate any challenge to their narrow line of thought and subdue opposition even if it involves violence. We all have diverse contributions to make to Nigeria be it at home or abroad, and when the times comes we will play our part. And if you have read carefully my comments you will realise that I have never recommended or advocated for war. I have my opinions and you have yours, lets practise the civilised concept of mutual respect. Finally I do not hate people of Northern origin or background otherwise that will render my christian ethic useless. I am only concerned about the plight of Christians and Igbos who bear the brunt of slaughterings in the Northern region whenever a remotely connected issue occurs elsewhere and upsets our muslims brothers . For now leave us alone jo and go and implement your one NIGERIA , lol. |
Re: People Agitating For Nigeria's Break Up Are Simply Delusional & Ignorant by Chrisbenogor(m): 8:59pm On Mar 21, 2010 |
ElRazur:And the only way to change that is to spill close to ten million lives excluding yours abi? You just pronounced yourself a spineless soldier wanting to lead a war, don't worry if you come platimuk and frosbel will be giving the orders and then you and your family members will carry them out. YOU MY FRIEND ARE A BLOODY NIGERIAN, you are SELFISH and what you are doing reeks of cowardice! |
Re: People Agitating For Nigeria's Break Up Are Simply Delusional & Ignorant by Nobody: 9:03pm On Mar 21, 2010 |
Chrisbenogor: For you warmongers there are more peaceful ways to resolve our issues. Do not think war, war and war, think solution, solution and solution. |
Re: People Agitating For Nigeria's Break Up Are Simply Delusional & Ignorant by Chrisbenogor(m): 9:09pm On Mar 21, 2010 |
frosbel:OK Justice of peace, can you tell us how you intend to split the country in peace? |
Re: People Agitating For Nigeria's Break Up Are Simply Delusional & Ignorant by ElRazur: 9:17pm On Mar 21, 2010 |
Chrisbenogor: Do you want a blunt answer or want it sugar coated? Here, I do not do candy post. Again look at the bigger picture instead of focusing on me. I want a better Nigeria and will gladly embrace an alternative solution even if it means war. If the lives of people [Including mine] have to be scarified for the greater good, then yes so be it. The difference between you and me is this - You are okay with people pretending things is working in Nigeria, even after 50 years of trying. On the other hand, I am not. I am being realistic. If anyone is self-fish here, it is you. You are happy with wallowing in the same path that have yielded little or nothing in the past 50 years. On the other hand, I am tired of the same path way and you seem to have a problem with this. Yes I appreciate that there may be war and I stated that I have no problem with that. How that makes me spineless is beyond me. I suppose your problem is the fact that I am vocal about my opinion and I just happen to live outside Nigeria? What a flawed approach. They say the it gets darkest just before down, perhaps we are already heading into the darkest section of Nigeria's history? Hopefully, it will be a dawn for the better where people are not forced to be part of what they may not want to be. |
Re: People Agitating For Nigeria's Break Up Are Simply Delusional & Ignorant by Nobody: 9:17pm On Mar 21, 2010 |
Chrisbenogor: Easy Plan 1 or total separation 1. National Referendum to agree or disagree, obviously the greater vote wins 2. UN, EU, AU AND Ecowas Brokered agreement to separate with clearly marked borders 3. Fair and equitable distribution of natural and mineral resources. Plan 2 Regional based decentralised government 1. Every region responsible for their budgetary,economic and internal security affairs. 2. Federal government is responsible for military affairs and oversees the fair and equitable allocation of resources. 3. Once again will require an internationally brokered agreement. The lists under each plans are not exhaustive. |
Re: People Agitating For Nigeria's Break Up Are Simply Delusional & Ignorant by ElRazur: 9:19pm On Mar 21, 2010 |
Chrisbenogor: How can it be when we have people like you that appears to want to keep holding people together in a relation they do not want to be a part off? Anyway, there are ways and there are ways, however I do not think splitting up will be peaceful. But then, who knows? |
Re: People Agitating For Nigeria's Break Up Are Simply Delusional & Ignorant by Nobody: 9:31pm On Mar 21, 2010 |
oya commence splitting - berlin conference episode II |
Re: People Agitating For Nigeria's Break Up Are Simply Delusional & Ignorant by platinumnk(f): 11:12pm On Mar 21, 2010 |
ElRazur:+100000000000000000000000000000000000 (wheres the infinty symbol) |
Re: People Agitating For Nigeria's Break Up Are Simply Delusional & Ignorant by ayettymama(f): 11:15pm On Mar 21, 2010 |
ym me joo! |
Re: People Agitating For Nigeria's Break Up Are Simply Delusional & Ignorant by Nobody: 11:24pm On Mar 21, 2010 |
for those of us laboring under the illusion that spliting nigeria will lead to an end to bloodletting . . . interesting thread - you'll get to see ezeuche talking out of the other side of his mouth https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-416730.0.html http://www.thisdayonline.com/nview.php?id=169074 Ebonyi Communal Clash Claims More Lives platinumnk: sorry, i live in nigeria - building of infrastructure etal is simply another way for our elite to steal. did u hear of the power plant commissioned in ph two years ago and built by rockson engineering? i only hope it is finally working . what the continued contracts to repair roads? |
Re: People Agitating For Nigeria's Break Up Are Simply Delusional & Ignorant by SEFAGO(m): 11:28pm On Mar 21, 2010 |
for those of us laboring under the illusion that spliting nigeria will lead to an end to bloodletting . . . interesting thread - you'll get to see ezeuche talking out of the other side of his mouth Oh and you forgot the part where ibos might still be killed in the North of Nigeria regardless of a separation. The problem isn't alaigbo as part of nigeria, its the christians in the north who are ample prey for crazed arab wannabes. |
Re: People Agitating For Nigeria's Break Up Are Simply Delusional & Ignorant by hatch: 10:46am On Mar 22, 2010 |
Due to the killings in Ebonyi i hereby ask for Ebonyi state to become an independent republic to stop the bloodshed ! |
Re: People Agitating For Nigeria's Break Up Are Simply Delusional & Ignorant by Nobody: 10:49am On Mar 22, 2010 |
hatch#: Hatch sit down, take a deep breath and think about what you are saying. Ebonyi crisis might have claimed the lives of hundred innocent victims which is trully traggic despite your delight, but the Northern crisis has claimed tens of thousands of lives and might still claim more. |
Re: People Agitating For Nigeria's Break Up Are Simply Delusional & Ignorant by nex(m): 10:59am On Mar 22, 2010 |
Anybody who has not come to the conclusion yet that Ghaddafi is insane, such as person may have to have their own brains checked. And anybody whose ideas keep coinciding with that of a mad man is definitely mad! |
Re: People Agitating For Nigeria's Break Up Are Simply Delusional & Ignorant by Nobody: 11:06am On Mar 22, 2010 |
nex: He might be a ' mad man ' by your standards, but he is a ' mad man ' who knows how to run a country properly unlike your so called leaders who are totally sane , but cannot even run a village effectively, lol. |
Re: People Agitating For Nigeria's Break Up Are Simply Delusional & Ignorant by Nobody: 11:26am On Mar 22, 2010 |
frosbel: but he's a muslim - have you forgotten all your issues with muslims - or they can suddenly run countries properly when it suits your arguments ? |
Re: People Agitating For Nigeria's Break Up Are Simply Delusional & Ignorant by Nobody: 11:44am On Mar 22, 2010 |
oyb: Thanks for raising this point because it is about time I addressed it. 1. I do not have issues with Muslims as a race, far from it , I have countless very close Muslims friends and we discuss these issues such as violence, differences of religion , etc. 2. The crux of the matter is militant Islam which prevails in the far north and which contributed to the massacre of tens of thousands of Christians since the 1960s 3. The people who perform these acts of Jihad and massacres are normally of Fulani extract many times involving mercenaries from Chad and Niger. 4. The politicians in the north often use the almanjaris to cause mayhem and murder when it suits their purpose 5. Too much Saudi Arabia interference in the North. In summary I like us to get on with all and sundry but I am weary of certain extremist ideologies that constitute a threat to the peace and cohabitation of Nigerians. Over 50s of living together is enough evidence that it cannot work. My goodness if you are married to your wife for 50 years and you still do not get on, you should go for deliverance. |
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