Damiriel:
Pls people help me on this

Chuksmonika:
,it is true,Federal government of Nigeria has put a stop to that madness called HND/Bsc,To me HND and Bsc are equal,if i own a company,and wnt to recruit,i will welcome holders of both qualifications,that is why we are backward,...to me HND and Bsc are the same,if u put them to tests,most times,HND holders floor their Bsc counterparts

lokoventurex1:
Well, I'm hearing this for the first time. If it turned out to be true,then it's a welcome development.

We HND graduates have suffered too much from employers. I was going to write about my experience with a recruiting firm that almost dealt with me. It's high time we started to protest, maybe in Lagos first that they should stop using HND as contract staff.

I understand our employers in Nigeria uses the BSC holders too as contract staff, but on rare cases. If they will continue to use HND graduates as a back up staff to the Bsc holders, then they should scrap Polytechnic.

This is the greatest challenge I've. Many a graduate trainee test i couldn't write because they would always say minimum should be 2.1(BSC). If you tend to upgrade and get a bsc part time programme, employers will say they don't want bsc programme that ran on part time. Diamond Bank does this a lot.

Does that mean people that went to Polytechnic are second class citizens? People are too quite on this issue.

Constructive criticism abeg.


Well , bro private companies can do what ever they wish.

My concern is for the government.. I hear they have put the two certs as one in terms of both salary and promotion

Damiriel:


Sir did you speak with evidence.... I mean do you have someone who is involved

galax1:
Let me tell u the the truth ,the problem has not always been the starting point but as u grow u stop at level 14 y the bsc continue to his peak ,theN wen u do ur pgd n want to convert they won't convert u directly they will take u a step back.I know both hnd and bsc start on d same level n salary.but I heard without proof that its been removed and as a hnd graduate u can grow above level 14. More grace man I advice u do ur pgs also

Damiriel:
Recently a friend of mine who works in one of the federal government parastatal/ministry told me that every staff both Bsc and Hnd now receives same salary at entry level....

Pls how true is this ... Any civil servant to validate this claim.. Cos he even showed me his pay slip to prove

lokoventurex1:
Well, I'm hearing this for the first time. If it turned out to be true,then it's a welcome development.

We HND graduates have suffered too much from employers. I was going to write about my experience with a recruiting firm that almost dealt with me. It's high time we started to protest, maybe in Lagos first that they should stop using HND as contract staff.

I understand our employers in Nigeria uses the BSC holders too as contract staff, but on rare cases. If they will continue to use HND graduates as a back up staff to the Bsc holders, then they should scrap Polytechnic.

This is the greatest challenge I've. Many a graduate trainee test i couldn't write because they would always say minimum should be 2.1(BSC). If you tend to upgrade and get a bsc part time programme, employers will say they don't want bsc programme that ran on part time. Diamond Bank does this a lot.

Does that mean people that went to Polytechnic are second class citizens? People are too quite on this issue.

Constructive criticism abeg.

chyna4luv:


Hello my man,

I understand your plight but the truth remains that, the dichotomy between HND and BSc holders will never end because this has been in existence for decades. I have both qualification. I suffered humiliation from my BSc colleagues in the office two years backward simply because I had HND. HND guys were contract staff even if you have spent years with the firm there is no conversation for you while BSc are used as our managers, supervisors and full staff.

I and my HND colleagues cried, protest, we even wrote to the management but nothing was done. The management said that it is the firm's policy that HND can only be a junior/contract staff while BSc is for senior staff. This discrimination and segregation was so much in my office that I can see it openly, "if you don't like it, go and die". Funny enough, we the forbidden(HNDs) are the ones doing all the work in the office while BSc guys are just lounging, when I couldn't bear the shame anymore, I just took a bold step last year January and enroll for BSc. So I have got my BSc with strong 2.1. If I had used the study method I adopted during my HND, I would have made distinctions.

What they do in the University is lecturing, while in Polytechnic is teaching(break it into pieces so that you will know it). I will not mention the name of the school I obtained the BSc. There is this course I did in my HND1 first semester, it was a calculative course, I was surprised when they introduced it in my BSc finals. Guess what? The lecturer could not break it down properly students were complaining about his course. I used my HND1 handout to prepare myself for his exam and I made an A.

Furthermore, in the federal government job if you are an HND holder, the highest level you can attain is level 14 except you have a BSc certificate. How did I know? During my BSc, I came in contact with some guys in my department who was also running the BSc but with HND. Those guys works in the federal government and they told me that the dichotomy is also affecting them. I saw Matured men and women running the conversion programme with me because of the discrimination between both qualification.

My advice is, please try to go for the conversation programme. I know it won't be easy but it will safe you from this dichotomy syndrome. There are some schools that will admit you into 300level if your HND is upper credit.

I rest my case.

Jah bless.

Chyna.

Akalia:
your points sound valid sir. Please if I may ask, do you know some schools by names that run the conversion programme?

chyna4luv:



Cc: Damiriel , beshiman , telleyway

Hello Sir, I'm sorry, I won't mention any here o. I got to know this on nairaland in Education section. However, there is one in Cotonou all you need is just four semesters and you are done with BSc.

You may visit education section in nairaland for search.

Jah bless.

Chyna.

Damiriel:



That should be 2yesrs ??

chyna4luv:


Yes ma'am! Some schools here, you will spend 3years irrespective of your grade in HND but not less than lower credit. But there are some coded schools here, all you need to spend is four semesters only and you are done, if only your HND grade is upper o.

Jah bless.

Chyna.

chyna4luv:


Hello my man,

I understand your plight but the truth remains that, the dichotomy between HND and BSc holders will never end because this has been in existence for decades. I have both qualification. I suffered humiliation from my BSc colleagues in the office two years backward simply because I had HND. HND guys were contract staff even if you have spent years with the firm there is no conversation for you while BSc are used as our managers, supervisors and full staff.

I and my HND colleagues cried, protest, we even wrote to the management but nothing was done. The management said that it is the firm's policy that HND can only be a junior/contract staff while BSc is for senior staff. This discrimination and segregation was so much in my office that I can see it openly, "if you don't like it, go and die". Funny enough, we the forbidden(HNDs) are the ones doing all the work in the office while BSc guys are just lounging, when I couldn't bear the shame anymore, I just took a bold step last year January and enroll for BSc. So I have got my BSc with strong 2.1. If I had used the study method I adopted during my HND, I would have made distinctions.

What they do in the University is lecturing, while in Polytechnic is teaching(break it into pieces so that you will know it). I will not mention the name of the school I obtained the BSc. There is this course I did in my HND1 first semester, it was a calculative course, I was surprised when they introduced it in my BSc finals. Guess what? The lecturer could not break it down properly students were complaining about his course. I used my HND1 handout to prepare myself for his exam and I made an A.

Furthermore, in the federal government job if you are an HND holder, the highest level you can attain is level 14 except you have a BSc certificate. How did I know? During my BSc, I came in contact with some guys in my department who was also running the BSc but with HND. Those guys works in the federal government and they told me that the dichotomy is also affecting them. I saw Matured men and women running the conversion programme with me because of the discrimination between both qualification.

My advice is, please try to go for the conversation programme. I know it won't be easy but it will safe you from this dichotomy syndrome. There are some schools that will admit you into 300level if your HND is upper credit.

I rest my case.

Jah bless.

Chyna.

galax1:
Fallacy bro just last year u went 4 ur bsc......U can lie oh one year 4 bsc.?...U said some truthfully tins n now painted it with lie....chai.....I am done with my pgD,preceded 4 my masters n wat ever u are saying depends on u.Don't say it will never end because it has ended

Akalia:
your points sound valid sir. Please if I may ask, do you know some schools by names that run the conversion programme?

Demmtek:
a lot of private university do for me bells university ota offers a cheaper one 180k for 2years