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Re: What Daddy Freeze Won't Tell The Sheeples About Church Giving by nikz(f): 11:32am On Dec 13, 2017 |
It is my money and I will continue to pay my tithe to God. 2 Likes |
Re: What Daddy Freeze Won't Tell The Sheeples About Church Giving by igwegeorgiano(m): 11:32am On Dec 13, 2017 |
boy freeze over to you joor |
Re: What Daddy Freeze Won't Tell The Sheeples About Church Giving by AkpaMgbor(m): 11:33am On Dec 13, 2017 |
gwinaB:This is why I say that most of the people being hoodwinked by freeze and his cohorts are mere church goers and biblically naive Christians..little wonder that when Christ was eating and drinking with tax collectors people accused him of mingling with sinners..they would also accuse Christ if he came today... 1 Like |
Re: What Daddy Freeze Won't Tell The Sheeples About Church Giving by Nobody: 11:33am On Dec 13, 2017 |
Nice post OP! quite unfortunate no one with valid points to counter you. All i see here are peeps who are claiming to free the "sheeples"(whatever that means) without realizing who the sheeples really are... ![]() 1 Like |
Re: What Daddy Freeze Won't Tell The Sheeples About Church Giving by BruncleZuma: 11:33am On Dec 13, 2017 |
Stop crying more than the bereaved Op if you're paying tithe good for you and if you're not paying good for you. Can we sleep, wake up, drink water and hang our cup in peace bikonu. The origin of pentecostalism/protestantism can be traced to Martin Luther who challenged the doctrine of the day with regards to absolution from sin with his 95 theses...this was a doctrine introduced to collect levies from the sheeples of the day. My brothers and my sister's do not let anyone brainwash you and do not let the adherents of Archdeacon Idahosa dupe you. Worship the Lord in Truth and In Spirit and lastly buying a brand new car or airplane is not a blessing because in developed lands you'd have the IRS and it's equivalents after you. Ga na udo my sheeples. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Luther |
Re: What Daddy Freeze Won't Tell The Sheeples About Church Giving by stanliwise(m): 11:33am On Dec 13, 2017 |
richeeyo:sahrap, yoruba muslim |
Re: What Daddy Freeze Won't Tell The Sheeples About Church Giving by bibijay123(f): 11:33am On Dec 13, 2017 |
Cc Crazygod I know you will like this ![]() 1 Like |
Re: What Daddy Freeze Won't Tell The Sheeples About Church Giving by Montaque(m): 11:34am On Dec 13, 2017 |
It is flawed to say that since christ didn't stop the widow from giving to corrupt religious leaders, we should do same. You have to pay attention to the context of what happened and the lessons taught. What do you want us to do in that situation where christ denied the samaritan woman her daughter's healing because according to him, she is unqualified. We dare not treat people that way now because the dispensation of Jews and gentiles no longer exist. Please learn the lesson from the widows mite. God weights every offering on the basis of what your mind can let go and what you can with-hold from God. Consider Cain and Abel. As Pastor Olukoya said, you can give God your all, not just 10%, if you have the love. On the places you quoted from the ministry of Paul, that will be using one man's style to set a doctrine. Let's have the ministry style of Apostle Peter, John and Co. You should know by now that Paul had a special ministry. 1 Like |
Re: What Daddy Freeze Won't Tell The Sheeples About Church Giving by KENZINCO(m): 11:34am On Dec 13, 2017 |
xest: 1 Like |
Re: What Daddy Freeze Won't Tell The Sheeples About Church Giving by oodua1stson: 11:35am On Dec 13, 2017 |
Another idiotic attempt to defend a blatant fraud in the name of religion. You want to defend your pastor owning jets but the Jesus whom you fxckers claim did not even have a means of transportation then. The means of transportation in the time of Jesus were camels, donkey and horses. And horses with carriages for the rich. When he wanted to make the triumphant entry he went for the cheapest and least glamorous means of transportation; a donkey. He could have bought himself a nice horse with chariot but he had to lower himself to the people he preached to, hence he had to borrow a donkey. After the triumphant entry he went back to trekking like the rest of everybody. Unlike your thief pastors who fly around like bastards 6 Likes |
Re: What Daddy Freeze Won't Tell The Sheeples About Church Giving by Bossmafia(m): 11:35am On Dec 13, 2017 |
Is the op Apostle Paul or Jesus Christ? Ole no go find work! 3 Likes |
Re: What Daddy Freeze Won't Tell The Sheeples About Church Giving by KENZINCO(m): 11:35am On Dec 13, 2017 |
xest:Christ was moved by her willing heart to give HER LAST PENNY TO THE CORRUPT CHURCH ELDERS Abi? Now why are u not moved by the willingness of the poor people to give their last penny to the current curropt G.Os ? Just listen to yourself . be twisting the bible the way j like and be claiming to be wiser than God like your freezing Daddy Messiah 1 Like |
Re: What Daddy Freeze Won't Tell The Sheeples About Church Giving by MrBigiman: 11:35am On Dec 13, 2017 |
Sacrificial free will giving is the teaching of the new convenant. If the Church wants to undertake a project, there is no harm levying their members, and making them know that It won't open the windows of heaven, but its the sacrifice of being in a sect. Tithing is not part of the new covenant, and a Christian can have full fellowship with God without it. 8 Likes |
Re: What Daddy Freeze Won't Tell The Sheeples About Church Giving by HeyCorleone(m): 11:35am On Dec 13, 2017 |
Ochoiho: Now this is just plain stupid. Even Jews, who the original tithing instruction to, don't pay tithe anymore. It would interest you to know that tithing didn't become a ritual in the Nigeria until 80s and 90s. So you mean to say those who died before tithing became a norm won't make heaven? The way some people just come on Nairaland and use words. Tithing is a personal thing. It's between you and your God. And on the matter of tithing opens the gates of heaven, I beg to differ. God doesn't collect a fee to bless anyone. He blesses anyone He chooses to no matter their denomination or even if they're atheist. It's not in anyone's place to say God won't bless you if you don't tithe or God would bless you more if you tithe. That is just hogwash. If you tithe, it should be because you appreciate the works of your pastor and the workers, not because you want the windows of heaven open on you. A basic tenet of Christianity is giving. Any Christian would understand the joy in giving so I don't think it's much of a problem to give to anyone be it the poor around you, family, friends, those who work in church. But to say those who tithe won't make Heaven? Please. 8 Likes 1 Share |
Re: What Daddy Freeze Won't Tell The Sheeples About Church Giving by Sunsets: 11:35am On Dec 13, 2017 |
My dear, the bone of contention, bone from the abused sheeples, we have been shouting on our minaret has always been TITHE. OP, please be focused. One thing is certain, churches must be funded but not from dubious and twisted scriptural means Acidosis: 3 Likes |
Re: What Daddy Freeze Won't Tell The Sheeples About Church Giving by AkpaMgbor(m): 11:36am On Dec 13, 2017 |
hisgrace090:Bullshit! So I can give the church money or materials worth a full month salary willingly but I can't give the church ten percent of my monthly salary willingly ? Does that sound logical to you? |
Re: What Daddy Freeze Won't Tell The Sheeples About Church Giving by thewritingtodo(m): 11:37am On Dec 13, 2017 |
Acidosis: You're on point like a decimal bro. Very educating post. Tell'em! |
Re: What Daddy Freeze Won't Tell The Sheeples About Church Giving by OkCornel(m): 11:37am On Dec 13, 2017 |
Acidosis: Paul asked for money quite alright...but did he mandate anyone to pay him tithes? Acidosis: Was the Law fulfilled by Jesus at this point? Bear in mind that Animal sacrifices, Sabbath day requirements (which according to the Pharisees...Jesus violated) and other requirements of the Law was fully active! Acidosis: No arguments on this one. However, no Pastorpreneur should deceive people into thinking tithes is 10% of your monthly salary. The scriptural definition of tithes is 10% of harvested crops and livestock...NOT GOLD AND SILVER! The major issue here is deception! 5 Likes |
Re: What Daddy Freeze Won't Tell The Sheeples About Church Giving by mrclement088: 11:39am On Dec 13, 2017 |
the best way to tackle poverty |
Re: What Daddy Freeze Won't Tell The Sheeples About Church Giving by PaChukwudi44(m): 11:40am On Dec 13, 2017 |
AkpaMgbor:it makes sense.It means one is enitirely at liberty to decide hat to donate to church.No law says one must donate 10% to the church like pastors preach 4 Likes |
Re: What Daddy Freeze Won't Tell The Sheeples About Church Giving by exlinklodge: 11:40am On Dec 13, 2017 |
ok |
Re: What Daddy Freeze Won't Tell The Sheeples About Church Giving by BruncleZuma: 11:40am On Dec 13, 2017 |
HeyCorleone: They all learnt under Idahosa I no blame them nobody likes the truth. |
Re: What Daddy Freeze Won't Tell The Sheeples About Church Giving by alan056: 11:40am On Dec 13, 2017 |
BoboKush: Calm down. You're beginning to talk like daddy freeze is your "daddy" |
Re: What Daddy Freeze Won't Tell The Sheeples About Church Giving by BruncleZuma: 11:40am On Dec 13, 2017 |
mrclement088: 1 Like
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Re: What Daddy Freeze Won't Tell The Sheeples About Church Giving by JimloveTM(m): 11:41am On Dec 13, 2017 |
Acidosis: Add this. Jesus commended the woman who poured oil on his legs and blasted Judas who asked her to sell it to the poor. 2 Likes |
Re: What Daddy Freeze Won't Tell The Sheeples About Church Giving by IamaNigerianGuy(m): 11:41am On Dec 13, 2017 |
richeeyo: They are wolves in sheeps clothing thats why. 3 Likes |
Re: What Daddy Freeze Won't Tell The Sheeples About Church Giving by AkpaMgbor(m): 11:41am On Dec 13, 2017 |
Sunsets:Let's assume that ten percent of my monthly salary is 10 thousand naira, but I willingly give the church 20 thousand every month, then which is better? Or is it because the ten percent was tagged tithe? So what you and freeze are saying is basically that I can give even more than ten percent of my monthly salary willingly to the church as long as I don't tag it 'tithe'?? Such amazing logic! 1 Like |
Re: What Daddy Freeze Won't Tell The Sheeples About Church Giving by otil1: 11:42am On Dec 13, 2017 |
BoboKush: Don't mind him |
Re: What Daddy Freeze Won't Tell The Sheeples About Church Giving by HeyCorleone(m): 11:42am On Dec 13, 2017 |
oodua1stson: I couldn't have said it better. I don't think there's anything wrong with a pastor boarding planes like a normal person and taking economy class. Most people don't understand that working in the Lord's vineyard is not all Roses. It's self denial and sacrifice. Leaving a less quality life even though you can afford the means just because you want to be like Christ. The only Churches who do such are the Catholic Church, Anglican, and the rest of those Orthodox Churches. Pentecostal ministry is just bread and butter. 2 Likes |
Re: What Daddy Freeze Won't Tell The Sheeples About Church Giving by Desyner: 11:42am On Dec 13, 2017 |
richeeyo:That doesn't prove holiness or righteousness. It shows they are desperately trying to give/sell people like you an impression. The way God ordained it is that we serve and do good deeds in the secret and He rewards us in the open. 1 Like |
Re: What Daddy Freeze Won't Tell The Sheeples About Church Giving by stanliwise(m): 11:43am On Dec 13, 2017 |
Acidosis: Brother this is not a matter of whether Daddy freeze is right or not. It is only a pointer to how money conscious many churches have become and many vices some of these church has invented to get money from member. This include using threat, bait and mind tricks. Daddy freeze isn't entirely right tho but he is also not totally wrong. The big churches he refers to e.g Redeem, winners etc for me are not the problem but instead it is some of this so-called one man churches especially the upcoming ones, Bro I will advised you go see for yourself and you will know what am talking about. 1 Like |
Re: What Daddy Freeze Won't Tell The Sheeples About Church Giving by Paxziano: 11:45am On Dec 13, 2017 |
anonimi: This picture has said it all 2 Likes 1 Share |
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