Jesus said.....If you don't believe in me, you will DIE IN YOUR SINS.

You are saying otherwise.


If you don't believe him,

Your sins remain.


Period.

Originakalokalo:


Jesus said.....If you don't believe in me, you will DIE IN YOUR SINS.

You are saying otherwise.


If you don't believe him,

Your sins remain.


Period.

I will believe the creator over the creature any day and any time ! -

frosbel2:



I will believe the creator over the creature any day and any time ! -

What christain denomination do you belong to

harbjar:

What christain denomination do you belong to

None

frosbel2:



I will believe the creator over the creature any day and any time ! -

Jesus is the Creator

thesicilian:

Jesus is the Creator

Nope !

frosbel2:


Nope !

It is not up for debate, it is there in the Bible.

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

John 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.


John 1:10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.

frosbel2:


None

Well what surprises me is that you dont believe jesus is God, because you mentioned he was created...
You also dont believe he was crucified or lets say died for the sins of man..
Thats the foundation of Christianity...

frosbel2:
2 Samuel 12:13 - Then David said to Nathan, "I have sinned against the LORD." And Nathan said to David, "The LORD also has taken away your sin; you shall not die.

Psalm 32:5 - I acknowledged my sin to You, And my iniquity I did not hide; I said, "I will confess my transgressions to the LORD"; And You forgave the guilt of my sin. Selah.

God forgave their sins, but they did not make heaven , Abraham ,Moses ,David etc all had to confess Jesus b4 getting eternal life on the Judgment day.

Jesus said : John 3:13 KJV
And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

Luke 16:23-26 KJV
And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. [24] And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame. [25] But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented. [26] And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.

Abraham did not make heaven but was temporarily beneath the earth pending the coming of Jesus.

Ephesians 4:8-10 KJV
Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men. [9] (Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth? [10] He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.

enilove:


God forgave their sins, but they did not make heaven , Abraham ,Moses ,David etc all had to confess Jesus b4 getting eternal life on the Judgment day.

Jesus said : John 3:13 KJV
And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

Luke 16:23-26 KJV
And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. [24] And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame. [25] But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented. [26] And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.

Abraham did not make heaven but was temporarily beneath the earth pending the coming of Jesus.

Ephesians 4:8-10 KJV
Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men. [9] (Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth? [10] He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.

Nobody is in heaven, they are all DEAD and waiting for the resurrection.

frosbel2:


Nobody is in heaven, they are all DEAD and waiting for the resurrection.

How confused you are.

I guess you don't believe Jesus died, resurrected and ascended to heaven also.

Then why try to explain the Bible when you don't believe in what it says?

Frosbel, you have fallen and no o e takes you serious anymore.

frosbel2:


Nobody is in heaven, they are all DEAD and waiting for the resurrection.

They are in heaven

1. Abraham is in Paradise. He is not beneath the Earth.

2. Heaven is different from Paradise.

3. Nobody is in heaven yet. JESUS, the father and the Angels are the only ones there

4. Without Jesus, your sins are not forgiven.

frosbel2:
2 Samuel 12:13 - Then David said to Nathan, "I have sinned against the LORD." And Nathan said to David, "The LORD also has taken away your sin; you shall not die.

Psalm 32:5 - I acknowledged my sin to You, And my iniquity I did not hide; I said, "I will confess my transgressions to the LORD"; And You forgave the guilt of my sin. Selah.

your understanding of scripture is weak,
1cor 15:14
and if Christ has not been raised, our preaching is useless and so is your faith.

in the old testament,the prophecy of Jesus dying for the forgiveness of sin has not been fullfilled...............you used old testament verses to support your lies, but if I used old testament verses to support tithe,you will be the first to criticized me

I just saw your post about deeper life and stuffs like that..

And I must really confess that sir.. You're seriously ma.d and need an urgent help asap

After going tru ur post about deeper life and now this, I just have to agree dat u are in dire need of spiritual help and only JESUS can help u.

Who gives the man any audience?
I see clearly why Deeper Life is a cult to you.
The devil incarnates in days of old said Jesus casted out demons by beelzebub.
I see how well you do the will of your father who opposes the Light.
You are an apostate bros. You are not far from reaching the point of no turning back.
I pray God's Mercy on you!

And Satan enter into frosbel2 and s/he went about mis-yarning.
Then s/he went to the atheist chief priest, and s/he said if ye would push my thread to front page I will created more of it.
Since that time s/he became restless

frosbel2:



I will believe the creator over the creature any day and any time ! -

It is the only option for mankind. Jesus didn't create u and on the day we are raised from death, those who worship Jesus, as God, son of God, partner to God will be the greatest losers and nor will there be a second chance.

Op you are going to hell if you don't repent.

Hebrews 9:22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.

Do you think God is a man?
Acts 5:31 Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.

Acts 13:38 Be it known unto you therefore, men and brethren, that through this man is preached unto you the forgiveness of sins:

Ephesians 1:7 In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;

Colossians 1:14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:

frosbel2:
Isaiah 43:25 - "And yet, I am the God who forgives your sins, and I do this because of who I am.I will not hold your sins against you"

Isaiah 1:18 - "Come now, let's settle this," says the LORD. "Though your sins are like scarlet, I will make them as white as snow. Though they are red like crimson, I will make them as white as wool"

Isaiah 44:22 - "I have wiped out your transgressions like a thick cloud And your sins like a heavy mist. Return to Me, for I have redeemed you"

Psalm 103:12 - "I , even I, am he that blotteth out thy transgressions for mine own sake; and I will not remember thy sins"

2 Chronicles 7:14 - "..if my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and will heal their land"

if you are not Muslim yet you are just a trow stone away, God is one Jesus was a prophet sent by God, and the one sent cant be greater than the one who sent the person as Jesus said. Allah will lead you.

Auki:


It is the only option for mankind. Jesus didn't create u and on the day we are raised from death, those who worship Jesus, as God, son of God, partner to God will be the greatest losers and nor will there be a second chance.

Mr Muslim, leave this place with your terrorist and satanic doctrines.

We don't give virgins here.

God Almighty isn't even someone who can get offended let alone forgiving us. God Almighty is love and does not count our mistakes as offences against him. We fellow human beings are the ones to forgive ourselves. The gods like Allah, Atum, Olorun, Yahweh, Vishnu, Enki etc are to also forgive themselves because they are all created imperfect too.

Doctufos: Adspiramen 7:17-21


17. Earthus soon began to have her womb rise up and we feared that the liquid released into her body by Murmoh was only a poison to her soul.

18. We were all amazed when a giant homo with furs arose. Earthus had given birth.

19. The furs were dark like scarlet and the creature seemed too ugly for our liking. He had some resemblance to Murmoh who was black in complexion too(the only one among us who was having a dark complexion).

20. Thus we had the first homo to be born by flesh and not by the impact of the bang. He is called Faulkin(Yeshua), the firstborn of all creatures.

21. Faulkin(Yeshua) was of great stature as he grew. Soon we began to see Mother Earthus' womb rise again after a while.

How can you say that...
I and my father are one.
Jesus is God
Without Jesus they is no Christianity.

Christ is God in Heaven!!! Jesus is The Lord of all Creations!!!

alBHAGDADI:
Mr Muslim, leave this place with your terrorist and satanic doctrines.

We don't give virgins here.

smoy:
if you are not Muslim yet you are just a trow stone away, God is one Jesus was a prophet sent by God, and the one sent cant be greater than the one who sent the person as Jesus said. Allah will lead you.

So you agree to the place wherw Jesus talked about who is the greatest but you didn't agree to other thing He said.

Very pathetic.

Emusan:


So you agree to the place wherw Jesus talked about who is the greatest but you didn't agree to other thing He said.

Very pathetic.

what did Jesus said that i do not agreed to ?

smoy:
what did Jesus said that i do not agreed to ?

He said: He is The Way, The Truth and The Life, and no one comes to the Father except through Him!

Do you agree?

Emusan:


He said: He is The Way, The Truth and The Life, and no one comes to the Father except through Him!

Do you agree?

100 percent agreed but remember that he said when is alive in this world. because before him there was a way, Moses was, Abraham was, Solomon was, now the way and life is that comforters Jesus told you about, i.e Muhammed (peace and blessing of Allah be on them all)