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Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by Myde4naija(m): 10:38pm On Jan 21, 2018
Christians, una mumu never do?
Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by Nobody: 10:40pm On Jan 21, 2018
Shafiiimran99:
They would questioned and challenged Jesus again had it been he talked about polygamy when he said one man one wife cos it would go against their practice
Don't assume what you don't know. Jesus was clear on that .polygamy was allowed then because their heart were hardened if not it was not the will of God for a man to have several wives

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Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by Nobody: 10:41pm On Jan 21, 2018
somehow:
So you left out others that didn't fit your point? Lol cherry picking to the core.
I only responded to the ones raised.
Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by Nobody: 10:43pm On Jan 21, 2018
Pierohandsome:
bro Abraham was not a christian, but a Jew. Christ is our example that is why we are christians. One wife and one husband, any other marriage aside one wife is not recognized by God as marriage but adultery.

Under the old covenant it was permitted but under the new tastament it is only one wife

If u are a pastor u will lead many astray.... Tithing was for the Jews also....beside Jesus came to earth as a Jew not as an African. The 10 commandment spelled everything out. Give one scripture in the New Testament dat called polygamy a sin... no inference..

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Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by somehow: 10:45pm On Jan 21, 2018
Are the others who married more than one wife going to hell?
asuustrike2009:

I only responded to the ones raised.
Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by Nobody: 10:47pm On Jan 21, 2018
somehow:
Can you prove this biblically that marrying more than one wife will take you to hell? Meaning all the prophets and men after God's own heart are in hell?
Hell in this context means misery

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Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by Toks2008(m): 10:49pm On Jan 21, 2018
asuustrike2009:

The word of God is clear on marriage anyone that goes contrary to it has himself or herself to blame. Marry more one wife and end in hell. God was not foolish when he ordained one man one wife

Read this
www.nairaland.com/4303658/does-god-support-polygamy#64403042
Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by MiddleDimension: 10:52pm On Jan 21, 2018
Pierohandsome:
Mat 19:4-6

The above scripture gave us a clear picture abt hw many partners should be involve in marriage. The above scripture clearly stated that it is between a man and a woman ,not women. It said they two shall become one ,not they 3 or they 4 shall become one flesh. If the bible says 1 and u married 2 or 3, must u wait for the bible to tell u to return them b4 u believe it is not right?
Whn u miss ur way u have to retrace it and not continuing in it. As far as the scripture is concerned the other 2 are not recognized by God because the bible made us to uNderstand that it is only meant for a man and a woman ,so the other 2 are jst in adulterous relationship as far as God is concerned.

when Jesus said that, he was quoting Genesis.

now, in gen 4: 14, cain said ''...and it shall come to pass that everyone that findeth me shall slay me''.
now cain was complaining to god that the punishment is too harsh. he said everyone that findeth me...
where did the ''everyone'' come from, if Adam and Eve and his two sons only where the ones that were existing at the time? so you can see that the genesis story isnt true at all and jesus knew this. (ofcourse, i know this statement will probably astonish you). but jesus used the story anyway, why? he used it to tell them why it is important to that the two partiea getting married should treat each other well because the two have now become one''.

talking about wether the statement of jesus meant obe is confined to just one and not two or more, well the bible made us to understand that the relationship between a man and a woman is very much like the relationship between god and his church, the bride. that means every christian is the bride of christ! and yet, when you want to refer to Jesus, you call him your PERSONAL LORD and savior. same as the next christian beside you!

the point is: that the man is married to more than one woman, doesnt mean that the two are not becoming one. when he was marrying them, he marries them INDIVIDUALLY. and that means that the two is still becoming one. so the truth is: that scripture is mot violated by the holy institution, POLYGAMY.

the passage of the bible that buttresses my point the most, and shatters this kind of point that you have brought us ia the parable of the 10 virgins.

5 of the virgins were not really wise so they lost out. when the bridegroom (not bridegrooms) came around, he took the other virgins (not virgin) to the banquet hall. those who talk like to jesus, polygamy is an anathema, should take not that he used the very idea of polygamy to pass home his point. if it were truely bad, polygamy, he wouldnt have uses it at all to drive home a holy reallity of the kingdom of god. @ubenedictus @donnie @joagbaje you all i reapect alot can come in here and offer what you think

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Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by fabre4: 10:57pm On Jan 21, 2018
LadyExcellency:
Should a born again Christian be sleeping with two or three women at will in the name of "legal wives"?

Op, I need answer


Abraham did it so why not
Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by Nobody: 10:57pm On Jan 21, 2018
lonikit:

u hav not answered. after marrying them are u allowed to divorce since he said hate divorce??
No God doesn't allow divorce neither does he support polygamy. If you were not born again and had married more than one wife, you can retain them .
Divorce is against God’s plan for marriage; a sinful divorce cannot correct a sinful second marriage. Rather, we should take Paul’s advice in 1 Corinthians 7:20.
But if you are born again then don't try it
Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by Estim07: 11:03pm On Jan 21, 2018
TheKingIsHere:
You are the one twisting God's word because God never condemned polygamy.
If old things have passed away like you stated, why do you guys refer to the same Old Testament on the issue of tithe?

Tithe was never condem in any place in d bible, but was confirm in the new testament going to the old testament is to give u guys d origin of it.
Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by Orodje(m): 11:04pm On Jan 21, 2018
friyina1:

It is very wrong. You married the other wives properly before you got born again and now you want to send them where? Scriptures clearly says that a Bishop or a Deacon must be a man of ONE wife. That means that God recognizes the fact that he will have children that are could be married to more than one wife. The only implication is that you cannot be ordained to any spiritual ministerial post but you and your wives and family can gladly serve the Lord.


Thanks bro, u nailed it

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Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by MiddleDimension: 11:05pm On Jan 21, 2018
asuustrike2009:

Hell in this context means misery

19 Lamech married two wives, Adah and Zillah. 20 Adah gave birth to Jabal, the ancestor of all who live in tents and herd cattle. 21 His brother's name was Jubal, the ancestor of all who play the lyre and flute. 22 Zillah gave birth to Tubal-Cain, who worked at the forge making bronze and iron tools. Tubal-Cain's sister was Naamah.

it seems according to gen 4 vs 19-22, Lamach's home, a polygamous home wasnt a misery lol. to kill a dog, you have to give it a bad name even though the dog's name could ''pretty''. thats exactly what you are trying to do. give polygamy a bad name, and then it becomes legit to outlaw it. and as it stands, not everyone in the society ia ignorant, including some of those in the congregation you preach to.

lamach's home was so good, the products of it, the children, could grow up and be known for the skills they developed. by ''jabal is the anceator of all who lived it tent...'', it was telling you that jabal can be seen as the father of tent makers; those with the skills to make tent. he qas that good. same with his brother who became the father of cattle herders and also the one who forged iron.

the only way they could have become this good is if their home was peaceful and had love ib the air.
Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by Nobody: 11:07pm On Jan 21, 2018
GreatrAnalyst:



Thanks jare
It is evident in that scriptures that husband having more than a wife was prevalent then, thus a requirement to hold a post was limited to a man having just a wife, but from this scripture and anywhere else, where was it stipulated that a man should send away the rest wives? God of course knows the danger of a man being unable to manage his home very well if he had wives instead of just one, that was why an ideal Christian leader/overseer should be the one having just a wife which by default can control or manage his home well.

But the verse also implies that there were people in the church who could be church leaders were it not for the fact that they were married to or sexually involved with more than one person. These people were allowed to be a part of the church fellowship, but were restricted from becoming church leaders.
Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by vislabraye(m): 11:10pm On Jan 21, 2018
PSTEMMA1960:
first of all i want u to know that Jesus never told Zacchaeus to give half of his property to the poor or restore x4 of whatever he has taken from anyone..

let's put it this way, if a man married 2 wives and the 2 wives have all giving birth to grow up children, and latter the man gives his life to christ, do u expect him to divorce the second wife and also disown the children he had with her?

if u have already married b4 without knowing God we call it the days of ignorance, and the bible says that the time of ignorance that God overlooks..

u have to take care of all of them as ur wives with thier children, God is nt a wicked man who is always looking 4 a reason to punish u or send us to hell..

Your explanation makes absolutely sense. Jesus never said anything about restitution in marriage.
Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by Nobody: 11:12pm On Jan 21, 2018
MiddleDimension:


19 Lamech married two wives, Adah and Zillah. 20 Adah gave birth to Jabal, the ancestor of all who live in tents and herd cattle. 21 His brother's name was Jubal, the ancestor of all who play the lyre and flute. 22 Zillah gave birth to Tubal-Cain, who worked at the forge making bronze and iron tools. Tubal-Cain's sister was Naamah.

it seems according to gen 4 vs 19-22, Lamach's home, a polygamous home wasnt a misery lol. to kill a dog, you have to give it a bad name even though the dog's name could ''pretty''. thats exactly what you are trying to do. give polygamy a bad name, and then it becomes legit to outlaw it. and as it stands, not everyone in the society ia ignorant, including some of those in the congregation you preach to.

lamach's home was so good, the products of it, the children, could grow up and be known for the skills they developed. by ''jabal is the anceator of all who lived it tent...'', it was telling you that jabal can be seen as the father of tent makers; those with the skills to make tent. he qas that good. same with his brother who became the father of cattle herders and also the one who forged iron.

the only way they could have become this good is if their home was peaceful and had love ib the air.
God allowed it because they were ignorant.
"New International Version
In the past God overlooked such ignorance, but now he commands all people everywhere to repent." Act 17:30

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Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by MiddleDimension: 11:15pm On Jan 21, 2018
asuustrike2009:

God allowed it because they were ignorant.
"New International Version
In the past God overlooked such ignorance, but now he commands all people everywhere to repent." Act 17:30
including tithe and first fruit? but he mentioned it in the neq tstament about the ten virgins. the BRIDEGROOM, NOT BRIDEGOOMSSSSSS. and it was VIRGINSSSSSSS not VIRGIN
Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by MiddleDimension: 11:29pm On Jan 21, 2018
for alk those talking about a so-called reatitution, i want you to read this:

having canceled the charge of our legal indebtedness, which stood against us and condemned us; he has taken it away, nailing it to the cross. 15 And having disarmed the powers and authorities, he made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them by the cross.

the above is colosians 2 vs 14-15

now when you became the faithful of the lord, according to vs 14, he canceled the charge of our legal indebtedness, which stood against you and condenmed you, he says HE HAS TAKEN IT AWAY BY NAILING IT TO THE CROSS.....

so even if it was a sin, which it isnt anyway, but even it was, and you are indebted, a debt you have pay on the day of judgement, bible says that HE HAS CANCELED THE CHARGES OF YOUR LEGAL INDEBTEDNESSS (can i hear you speak in tongues, already!) WHICH STOID AGAINST YOU AND CONDEMNED YOU, HE TOOK IT AND NAILED IT TO THE CROSS! this means you SHOULD NOT do any kind of restitution whatsoever ortherwise, you are trying to buy your salvation by your own strength instead of acxepting the grace of god as it has been freely given to you in full measure according to hia generousity.

let no one put a knife on what god has joined together, polygamy
Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by Ikpangi: 11:34pm On Jan 21, 2018
We don't pray this for any man

Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by AreaFada2: 11:35pm On Jan 21, 2018
Pierohandsome:
Yes, u cannot be marrying 2-3 wives and be sleeping with them and claim to be born again. U must return the last 2 u married and keep the first wife. That is whn u are really born again, not jst returning them, u must be responsible for their upkeep until they re-marry
So after making several women "bend down select" you will now chase them away in the name of born again. Abeg who go carry the baggage wey chassis girls sef never get hubby? shocked shocked And now with speaking sex dolls everywhere? cheesy grin

Born again or die again, polygamous people should finish what they started o. After all King Solo had uncountable women. And the dude is going straight to heaven. tongue tongue
Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by msylva2147(m): 11:54pm On Jan 21, 2018
Pierohandsome:
i dnt knw why u are arguing. If u knw it u shouldn't have bothered asking. U asked for clarification and somebody is giving u answer and u are argueing in it again.

U are not getting the point. Dnt call them wives they are not wives. The only wife among the 3 is the 1st one, the other 2 are not recognized by God as wives but adulterous partners that is why it is a sin.

The bible is clear on this issue, under the new covenant it is only one wife that is allowed any additional one is adultery which u must return them to go marry their own husband properly because by scripture u are not their God's ordained husband.
then what becomes of the children in case they had some?
Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by johhnnie(m): 11:54pm On Jan 21, 2018
Pierohandsome:
Mat 19:4-6

The above scripture gave us a clear picture abt hw many partners should be involve in marriage. The above scripture clearly stated that it is between a man and a woman ,not women. It said they two shall become one ,not they 3 or they 4 shall become one flesh. If the bible says 1 and u married 2 or 3, must u wait for the bible to tell u to return them b4 u believe it is not right?
Whn u miss ur way u have to retrace it and not continuing in it. As far as the scripture is concerned the other 2 are not recognized by God because the bible made us to uNderstand that it is only meant for a man and a woman ,so the other 2 are jst in adulterous relationship as far as God is concerned.

We usually quote this scripture out of context. T
Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by Bgorgeous: 11:54pm On Jan 21, 2018
Pierohandsome:
they were never regarded as wives in the first place. The one recognized as wife is the first one u Married, the other 2 u married after are not wives by scriptures so they are free to re-marry. It is the first wife that is regarded by God as a wife and she cannot re-marry
Scripture eeh
Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by Nobody: 11:56pm On Jan 21, 2018
MiddleDimension:
including tithe and first fruit? but he mentioned it in the neq tstament about the ten virgins. the BRIDEGROOM, NOT BRIDEGOOMSSSSSS. and it was VIRGINSSSSSSS not VIRGIN
Tithe and first fruit has no correlation with the subject discussed. The parable of the bridegroom and virgin spoke of the coming of Jesus. He is coming to take his own to heaven. He is coming for the perfect church without spot. He is coming for the perfect man.
Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by benji93: 12:23am On Jan 22, 2018
Pierohandsome:
bro Abraham was not a christian, but a Jew. Christ is our example that is why we are christians. One wife and one husband, any other marriage aside one wife is not recognized by God as marriage but adultery.

Under the old covenant it was permitted but under the new tastament it is only one wife
Sorr,y Abraham was not a Jew. You need to study your Bible thoroughly.
Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by legalwealth(m): 12:26am On Jan 22, 2018
joyfullyjoyous:
If the first is a baby mama and still single and the second is married in church,which of them leaves?

Someone should please answer this. Thanks

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Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by paito: 12:30am On Jan 22, 2018
Whether it is true to restitute or not why can you not pray about it.There so many things you will be taught by Holy Spirit.but truth is bitter
Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by paito: 12:34am On Jan 22, 2018
Anyone you paid the bride price first is your wife others are your partners in adultery sorry for using the adjective

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Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by Nobody: 1:13am On Jan 22, 2018
lonikit:
Please, I want to know because it is practised in many Pentecostal churches. If you marry two or more wives before you got born again, you have to leave one and live with just one. this act of forsaking is known as restitution. I really want to know if this is scriptural.
religion is powered by mass stupidity...
Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by ojlifa: 1:45am On Jan 22, 2018
keep quiet,if you do not know the bible and stop assuming trash.my friend the bible does not stop a man from marrying more than one wife.what it says is once you have married more than one wife you can not hold appointment in church simple .stop talking what you know nothing about confusing western doctrine with the bible


Pierohandsome:
Yes, u cannot be marrying 2-3 wives and be sleeping with them and claim to be born again. U must return the last 2 u married and keep the first wife. That is whn u are really born again, not jst returning them, u must be responsible for their upkeep until they re-marry
Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by ojlifa: 1:48am On Jan 22, 2018
now that is a man who knows the bible


GoodMuyis:


Matt 19vs8
He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so.

If are in possession of two or more women as spouse, it's left to you to do what the spirit lead you.

frosbel2 is lying no church will force you to put away any woman, BUT the truth will preach to you and the decision is left for you to take.

The only sanction is that you are not eligible to hold and position in church and that is Biblical principles
Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by potentpraise: 2:24am On Jan 22, 2018
Biblical brainwash is going on. I need those who believe in that funny restitution(by the way its not restitution if you consider the meaning of restitution) to answer the following questions

Where in the bible did you find you should marry one wife?
what happens to those 2 other women whom will have their husband abandoned them?
If you are single will you marry either the second and third wives of the newly born again?
Bible does not teach us to be stupid, it is a manual for our lives.

Why didn't Abraham, David, Jacob, and those considered patriarchs and people that are seen as biblical character references didn't restitute?

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