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Islam: Befriending Unbelievers by OnyeOGA(m): 7:44pm On Dec 25, 2017
Q5:51 – O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.
Q5:57 – Believers! Do not seek the friendship of those who were given the Book before you or the disbelievers who ridicule your religion and make a jest of it. Have fear of God, if you are true believers.
-Muslims who befriend unbelievers will abide in hell.
Q5:80 – You see many among them making friends with unbelievers. Evil is that to which their souls prompt them. They have incurred the wrath of God and shall endure eternal torment.
Q3:118 – Believers, do not make friends (pagans, Jews, Christians, and hypocrites) with any but your own people. Others will spare no pains to corrupt you. They desire nothing but your ruin. Their hatred is evident from what they utter with their mouths, but greater is the hatred which their breasts conceal. We have made plain to you Our revelations. Strive to understand them.
-Don’t befriend infidels except for protecting yourself.
Q3:28 – Let not the believers take disbelievers for friends in preference to believers – and whoever does that has no connection with Allah – except that you guard yourselves fully against them. And Allah cautions you against His punishment; and to Allah is the returning.
Q4:144 – O you who believe! do not take the unbelievers for friends rather than the believers; do you desire that you should give to Allah a manifest proof against yourselves?
-Do not take take your fathers and brothers as friends if they are infidels
Q9:23 – O believers, take not your fathers and brothers to be your friends, if they prefer unbelief to belief; whosoever of you takes them for friends, those — they are the evildoers. (Q10:62 – Awliya = Friends of Allah, not guardian)
-Avoid infidels
Q53:29 – So turn away from him who turns away from Our remembrance and desires nothing but the life of this world.
Q58:22 – You (O Muhammad SAW) will not find any people who believe in Allah and the Last Day, making friendship with those who oppose Allah and His Messenger (Muhammad SAW), even though they were their fathers, or their sons, or their brothers, or their kindred (people). For such He has written Faith in their hearts, and strengthened them with Rooh (proofs, light and true guidance) from Himself. And We will admit them to Gardens (Paradise) under which rivers flow, to dwell therein (forever). Allah is pleased with them, and they with Him. They are the Party of Allah. Verily, it is the Party of Allah that will be the successful.
Q60:1 – O you who believe! Take not My enemies and your enemies (i.e. disbelievers and polytheists, etc.) as friends, showing affection towards them, while they have disbelieved in what has come to you of the truth (i.e. Islamic Monotheism, this Quran, and Muhammad SAW), and have driven out the Messenger (Muhammad SAW) and yourselves (from your homeland) because you believe in Allah your Lord! If you have come forth to strive in My Cause and to seek My Good Pleasure, (then take not these disbelievers and polytheists, etc., as your friends). You show friendship to them in secret, while I am All-Aware of what you conceal and what you reveal. And whosoever of you (Muslims) does that, then indeed he has gone (far) astray, (away) from the Straight Path.
Q60:13 – O you who believe! Take not as friends the people who incurred the Wrath of Allah (i.e. the Jews). Surely, they have been in despair to receive any good in the Hereafter, just as the disbelievers have been in despair about those (buried) in graves (that they will not be resurrected on the Day of Resurrection)
Q4:97 – Verily! As for those whom the angels take (in death) while they are wronging themselves (as they stayed among the disbelievers even though emigration was obligatory for them), they (angels) say (to them): “In what (condition) were you?” They reply: “We were weak and oppressed on earth.” They (angels) say: “Was not the earth of Allah spacious enough for you to emigrate therein?” Such men will find their abode in Hell – What an evil destination!
Sahih Bukhari – Volume 1, Book 12, Hadith 749
Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah’s Apostle said, “Say Amen’ when the Imam says “Ghair-il-maghdubi ‘alaihim wala-ddal-lin; not the path of those who earn Your Anger (such as Jews) nor of those who go astray (such as Christians); all the past sins of the person whose saying (of Amin) coincides with that of the angels, will be forgiven.
Sahih Muslim – Book 1, Hadith 417
‘Amr b. ‘As reported: I heard it from the Messenger of Allah quite audibly and not secretly: Behold! the posterity of my fathers, that is, so and so, are not my friends. Verily Allah and the pious believers are my friends.
Sunan Abu Dawud – Book 41, Haidth 4815
Narrated AbuHurayrah: The Prophet said: A man follows the religion of his friend; so each one should consider whom he makes his friend.
Re: Islam: Befriending Unbelievers by OnyeOGA(m): 7:45pm On Dec 25, 2017
Sunan Abu Dawud – Book 41, Hadith 4832
The Messenger of Allah [said] “Do not keep company with anyone but a believer and do not let anyone eat your food but one who is pious.”
Sunan Abu Dawud – Book 41, Hadith 4814
Narrated AbuSa’id al-Khudri: The Prophet said: Associate only with a believer, and let only a God-fearing man eat your meals.
Sahih Bukhari – Volume 5, Book 59, Hadith 572
Narrated ‘Ali: Allah’s Apostle said to his companions.” As regards him, he (i.e. Hatib) has told you the truth.” ‘Umar said, “O Allah’s Apostle! Allow me to chop off the head of this hypocrite!” The Prophet said, “He (i.e. Hatib) has witnessed the Badr battle (i.e. fought in it) and what could tell you, perhaps Allah looked at those who witnessed Badr and said, “O the people of Badr (i.e. Badr Muslim warriors), do what you like, for I have forgiven you. “Then Allah revealed the Sura:–
“O you who believe! Take not my enemies And your enemies as friends offering them (Your) love even though they have disbelieved in that Truth (i.e. Allah, Prophet Muhammad and this Quran) which has come to you ….(to the end of Verse)….(And whosoever of you (Muslims) does that, then indeed he has gone (far) astray (away) from the Straight Path.” (60.1
Ishaq 262
Some Muslims remained friends with the Jews, so Allah sent down a Qur’an forbidding them to take Jews as friends. From their mouths hatred has already shown itself and what they conceal is worse”
Ishaq 252
The story of a young man who converts to Islam after hearing Muhammad. He then tells his own father that he can no longer have anything to do with him because, “I have become a Muslim and follow the religion of Muhammad.” (To maintain a relationship with his son, the father “converts” as well). This is an important passage because it establishes that the principle of shunning is based merely on the status of non-Muslims as unbelievers, not on their relations toward Muslims. In this case, the father desperately loved his son and meant him no harm.
Quran Tafsir Ibn Kathir
Allah forbids His believing servants from having Jews and Christians as friends, because they are the enemies of Islam and its people, may Allah curse them. Allah then states that they are friends of each other and He gives a warning threat to those who do this, (And if any among you befriends them, then surely he is one of them.)
Ibn Abi Hatim recorded that `Umar ordered Abu Musa Al-Ash`ari to send him on one sheet of balance the count of what he took in and what he spent. Abu Musa then had a Christian scribe, and he was able to comply with `Umar’s demand. `Umar liked what he saw and exclaimed, “This scribe is proficient. Would you read in the Masjid a letter that came to us from Ash-Sham” Abu Musa said, `He cannot.” `Umar said, “Is he not pure” Abu Musa said, “No, but he is Christian.” Abu Musa said, “So `Umar admonished me and poked my thigh (with his finger), saying, `Drive him out (from Al-Madinah).’ He then recited, (O you who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians as friends…)” Then he reported that `Abdullah bin `Utbah said, “Let one of you beware that he might be a Jew or a Christian, while unaware.” The narrator of this statement said, “We thought that he was referring to the Ayah, (O you who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians as friends, )” Allah said, (And you see those in whose hearts there is a disease…) A disease of doubt, hesitation and hypocrisy. (they hurry to their friendship,) meaning, they rush to offer them their friendship and allegiances in secret and in public, (saying: “We fear lest some misfortune of a disaster may befall us.”) They thus offer this excuse for their friendship and allegiances to the disbelievers, saying that they fear that the disbelievers might defeat the Muslims, so they want to be in favor with the Jews and Christians, to use this favor for their benefit in that eventuality!
Re: Islam: Befriending Unbelievers by OnyeOGA(m): 7:48pm On Dec 25, 2017
Fatwaa – Befriending kafirs is not allowed.
Other scholars said that this applied in the beginning, but was subsequently abrogated by Allah’s command to fight and wage jihad. So whoever refuses to enter Islam should be fought when the Muslims are able to fight, until they either enter Islam or pay the jizyah if they are among the people who may pay jizyah. The kuffaar should be compelled to enter Islam if they are not people from whom the jizyah may be taken, because that will lead to their happiness and salvation in this world and in the Hereafter. Obliging a person to adhere to the truth in which is guidance and happiness is better for him than falsehood. Just as a person may be forced to do the duty that he owes to other people even if that is by means of imprisonment or beating, so forcing the kaafirs to believe in Allah alone and enter into the religion of Islam is more important and more essential, because this will lead to their happiness in this world and in the Hereafter. This applies unless they are People of the Book, i.e., Jews and Christians, or Magians, because Islam says that these three groups may be given the choice: they may enter Islam or they may pay the jizyah and feel themselves subdued.
Some of the scholars are of the view that others may also be given the choice between Islam and jizyah, but the most correct view is that no others should be given this choice, rather these three groups are the only ones who may be given the choice, because the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) fought the kuffaar in the Arabian Peninsula and he only accepted their becoming Muslim. And Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“But if they repent [by rejecting Shirk (polytheism) and accept Islamic Monotheism] and perform As-Salaah (Iqaamat-as-Salaah), and give Zakaah, then leave their way free. Verily, Allaah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful”
[al-Tawbah 9:5]
He did not say, “if they pay the jizyah”. The Jews, Christians and Magians are to be asked to enter Islam; if they refuse then they should be asked to pay the jizyah. If they refuse to pay the jizyah then the Muslims must fight them if they are able to do so. Allah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“Fight against those who (1) believe not in Allah, (2) nor in the Last Day, (3) nor forbid that which has been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger (Muhammad), (4) and those who acknowledge not the religion of truth (i.e. Islam) among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued”
[al-Tawbah 9:29]
And it was proven that the Prophet accepted the jizyah from the Magians, but it was not proven that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) or his companions (may Allah be pleased with them) accepted the jizyah from anyone except the three groups mentioned above.
The basic principle concerning that is the words of Allah (interpretation of the meaning):
“And fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief and polytheism, i.e. worshipping others besides Allah), and the religion (worship) will all be for Allah Alone [in the whole of the world]”
[al-Anfaal 8:39]
“Then when the Sacred Months (the 1st, 7th, 11th, and 12th months of the Islamic calendar) have passed, then kill the Mushrikoon (see V.2:105) wherever you find them, and capture them and besiege them, and lie in wait for them in each and every ambush. But if they repent [by rejecting Shirk (polytheism) and accept Islamic Monotheism] and perform As-Salaah (Iqaamat-as-Salaah), and give Zakaah, then leave their way free. Verily, Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful”
[al-Tawbah 9:5]
This verse is known as Ayat al-Sayf (the verse of the sword).
These and similar verses abrogate the verses which say that there is no compulsion to become Muslim.
And Allah is the Source of strength.
Re: Islam: Befriending Unbelievers by purem(m): 7:53pm On Dec 25, 2017
Islam is the worst set of religion in the history of mankind

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Re: Islam: Befriending Unbelievers by DuBLINGreenb(m): 7:54pm On Dec 25, 2017
It is good to finally have closure on this issue cos once a muslim knows you are not muslim they avoid you and won't relate or even talk to you even at professional settings like law school

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Re: Islam: Befriending Unbelievers by OnyeOGA(m): 7:58pm On Dec 25, 2017
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Re: Islam: Befriending Unbelievers by OnyeOGA(m): 8:49pm On Dec 25, 2017
Cyynthialove:

Honestly, I never had any hatred for Islam until I started reading their so called holy book.
Those people are irredeemable.
Mohammed will never know peace wherever he is for for his legacies.
my mind tells me that Islam is the anti-christ.

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Re: Islam: Befriending Unbelievers by MicheyJ1: 8:55pm On Dec 25, 2017
Be-friend terrorists at your own detriment
Re: Islam: Befriending Unbelievers by OtemAtum: 9:19pm On Dec 25, 2017
Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers.

This bible passage alone is worse than the Quranic passage you pasted above.

Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world

This is another evil passage in the bible.

Kill the Amorites, Girgazite, Hivites, Hittites and do not marry from them. Kill those who worship Moloch, etc. All these things are found in the bible too. Both books are successfully creating and promoting division and hatred. Thank God for civilization, by now their continuous killings of humans would have extended to Africa to wipe us out. Hmm.
Re: Islam: Befriending Unbelievers by OnyeOGA(m): 9:46pm On Dec 25, 2017
OtemAtum:
Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers.

This bible passage alone is worse than the Quranic passage you pasted above.

Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world
First John 2:15-16says, "Do not love the world or anything in the world. If anyone loves the world, love for the Father is not in them. For everything in the world—the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life—comes not from the Father but from the world." Yet John 3:16begins, "For God so loved the world. . . ." So, God loves the world, but we are not supposed to? Why the apparent contradiction?
In the Bible, the termworldcan refer to the earth and physical universe ( Hebrews 1:2; John 13:1), but it most often refers to the humanistic system that is at odds with God ( Matthew 18:7; John 15:19; 1 John 4:5). When the Bible says that God loves the world, it is referring to the human beings who live here ( 1 John 4:9). And as His children, we are to love other people ( Romans 13:8; 1 John 4:7; 1 Peter 1:22). The parable of the Good Samaritanmakes it clear we cannot pick and choose whom to love ( Luke 10:30-37).
When we are toldnotto love the world, the Bible is referring to the world's corrupt value system. Satan is the god of this world, and he has his own value system contrary to God's ( 2 Corinthians 4:4). First John 2:16details exactly what Satan's system promotes: the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the boastful pride of life. Every sin imaginable can be summed up in those three evils; envy, adultery, pride, lying, selfishness, and more spring from those three roots.
The world is what we leave when we come to Christ. Isaiah 55:7says that coming to God involves a forsaking of our own ways and thoughts. John Bunyan, in his bookThe Pilgrim’s Progress, pictures the believer’s position as having “his eyes lift up to heaven,” holding “the best of books” in his hand, and standing with “the world as cast behind him” (p. 34).
The world often applauds sin. Hollywood encourages us to envy sinners and to foolishly compare ourselves with the "beautiful people" (see Proverbs 23:17). Often the popularity of "stars" is due to their ability to stir in us dissatisfaction with our own lives. Advertisers prey on our natural tendency to love this world, and most marketing campaigns appeal in some way to the lust of the eyes, the lust of the flesh, or the pride of life.
Loving the world means being devoted to the world’s treasures, philosophies, and priorities. God tells His children to set their priorities according to His eternal value system. We are to “seek first” God’s kingdom and righteousness ( Matthew 6:33). No one can serve two masters ( Matthew 6:24), and we cannot be devoted to both God and the world at the same time.
When we enter God's family through faith in Christ, God gives us the ability to exit the world's rat race ( 2 Corinthians 5:17). We become citizens of another kingdom ( Philippians 1:27, 3:20). Our desires turn heavenward, and we begin to store up eternal treasure ( Luke 12:33; Matthew 19:21; 1 Timothy 6:18-19). We realize that what is truly important is eternal, not temporal, and we stop loving the world.
To continue to love the world the way unbelievers do will cripple our spiritual growth and render us fruitless for God's kingdom ( Matthew 3:8; Luke 6:43-45; John 15:1-cool. In John 12:25, Jesus took this thought a step further when He said, "Anyone who loves their life will lose it, while anyone who hates their life in this world will keep it for eternal life." Not loving the world extends to our own lives as well. Jesus said if we love anything more than Him, we are not worthy of Him ( Matthew 10:37-38).
In general, the termworldin the Bible refers to the evil system controlled by Satan that leads us away from worship of God. John Calvin said, "The human heart is an idol factory." We can make idols out of anything. Any passionate desire of our hearts that is not put there by God for His glory can become an idol ( 1 Corinthians 10:31). Loving the world is idolatry ( 1 Corinthians 10:7, 14). So, while we are commanded to love thepeopleof the world, we are to be wary of anything that competes with God for our highest affections.
OtemAtum:
This is another evil passage in the bible.

Kill the Amorites, Girgazite, Hivites, Hittites and do not marry from them. Kill those who worship Moloch, etc. All these things are found in the bible too. Both books are successfully creating and promoting division and hatred. Thank God for civilization, by now their continuous killings of humans would have extended to Africa to wipe us out. Hmm.


i hope you know what is Judaism and Christianity.

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Re: Islam: Befriending Unbelievers by OtemAtum: 10:11pm On Dec 25, 2017
OnyeOGA:
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i hope you know what is Judaism and Christianity.
Do you mean that Judaism god is different from Christian god. Or you mean to say that your god changes with time when they said that he cannot change abi. So he has forgiven himself of all the evils he committed against humanity shey. So your god has changed his religion grin
Re: Islam: Befriending Unbelievers by OnyeOGA(m): 10:21pm On Dec 25, 2017
OtemAtum:
Do you mean that Judaism god is different from Christian god. Or you mean to say that your god changes with time when they said that he cannot change abi. So he has forgiven himself of all the evils he committed against humanity shey. So your god has changed his religion grin

you are really confused.
grin
until u Know the purpose why Jesus came.
Re: Islam: Befriending Unbelievers by OtemAtum: 10:26pm On Dec 25, 2017
OnyeOGA:

you are really confused.
grin
until u Know the purpose why Jesus came.
Lol. Jesus came to justify his murderous father, right? Yahweh get sense walahi! After hin don do evil against the Amorites, Girgasites, megabytes, terabytes and kilobytes byvkilling their animals and their men, rendering many children as orphans and many women as widows, destroying many places on earth, then he 'repented' of his sins and send fictitious Jesus to die for the sins of himself? So nice! wink

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Re: Islam: Befriending Unbelievers by OtemAtum: 10:30pm On Dec 25, 2017
DuBLINGreenb:
It is good to finally have closure on this issue cos once a muslim knows you are not muslim they avoid you and won't relate or even talk to you even at professional settings like law school
you're correct to an extent, but not all Muslims are like that. I have Muslim friends though and they are not inhumane. Every religion had its own problem because of the imperfection of the god who inspires such religion. Both Yahweh and Allah in desperation to have people worshipping them, have succeeded in creating confusion and hatred all over the world.
Re: Islam: Befriending Unbelievers by OnyeOGA(m): 10:34pm On Dec 25, 2017
OtemAtum:
Lol. Jesus came to justify his murderous father, right? Yahweh get sense walahi! After hin don do evil against the Amorites, Girgasites, megabytes, terabytes and kilobytes byvkilling their animals and their men, rendering many children as orphans and many women as widows, destroying many places on earth, then he 'repented' of his sins and send fictitious Jesus to die for the sins of himself? So nice! wink

that one na ur hand type am.
Because i no see terabyte and so on in the Bible.
grin
Re: Islam: Befriending Unbelievers by OtemAtum: 10:37pm On Dec 25, 2017
Cyynthialove:

Mohammed will never know peace wherever he is for for his legacies.
Why do you have to curse him? Moh Ahmad had no choice than to fulfill what Allah chose for him to do. It was his destiny, though a bad destiny. People like Moh Ahmad are also everywhere inside the bible. Elijah of Tishbi promoted hatred too in his days. He was a terrorist for Yahweh, killing thousands of the worshippers of other religion called the Baalites who worship Baal. Even Samuel who was recorded as killing Agag etc. So it is not only Moh Ahmad who did such despicable things, bible people worshipping Yahweh did more than that, committing genocides here and there. Read the bible over again, you will see many 'Moh-Ahmadlike' creatures in it.
Re: Islam: Befriending Unbelievers by OtemAtum: 10:40pm On Dec 25, 2017
OnyeOGA:


that one na ur hand type am.
Because i no see terabyte and so on in the Bible.
grin
Oh, sorry we are in the terabytes and gigabytes era. But what's the difference between the Jebusites and the Perisites compared to the terabytes I stated? They all sound alike and they were maltreated by the parasites of Yahweh, the god of the Israelites grin
Re: Islam: Befriending Unbelievers by Rashduct4luv(m): 7:58am On Dec 26, 2017
Matthew 7:5

You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.

The three gods in the Bible committed several atrocities that these Christians always overlook. Hypocrites.

See this verses Numbers 31:17-18

Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man,
but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.
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how will they know a lady has slept with a man?
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They killed all the boys, and all the non-virgins. Then they saved the virgins for themselves. how?

This same hypocrites will complain that Mohammed married a 6year old girl with her parents consent.

hypocrisy of the highest level.
Re: Islam: Befriending Unbelievers by mujahid777(m): 8:42am On Dec 26, 2017
You are correct here,a Muslim shouldn't take kaffirs or even deviant Muslims as friends.Anyways,didn't your bible tell you not to be unequally yoked with unbelievers
Re: Islam: Befriending Unbelievers by mujahid777(m): 8:45am On Dec 26, 2017
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EX 17:13 With the Lord's approval, Joshua mows
down Amalek and his people.
EX 21:20-21 With the Lord's approval, a slave
may be beaten to death with no punishment for
the perpetrator as long as the slave doesn't die
too quickly.
EX 32:27 "Put every man his sword by his side,
and go in and out from gate to gate throughout
the camp, and slay every man his brother, and
every man his companion, and every man his
neighbor.
EX 32:27-29 With the Lord's approval, the
Israelites slay 3000 men.
LE 26:7-8 The Lord promises the Israelites that, if
they are obedient, their enemies will "fall before
your sword."
LE 26:22 "I will also send wild beasts among you,
which shall rob you of your children."
LE 26:29 , DT 28:53 , JE 19:9 , EZ 5:8-10 As a
punishment, the Lord will cause people to eat the
flesh of their own sons and daughters and fathers
and friends.
LE 27:29 Human sacrifice is condoned. (Note: An
example is given in JG 11:30-39 )
NU 11:33 The Lord smites the people with a great
plague.
NU 12:1-10 God makes Miriam a leper for seven
days because she and Aaron had spoken against
Moses.
NU 15:32-36 A Sabbath breaker (who had
gathered sticks for a fire) is stoned to death at
the Lord's command.
NU 16:27-33 The Lord causes the earth to open
and swallow up the men and their households
(including wives and children) because the men
had been rebellious.
NU 16:35 A fire from the Lord consumes 250
men.
NU 16:49 A plague from the Lord kills 14,700
people.
NU 21:3 The Israelites utterly destroy the
Canaanites.
NU 21:6 Fiery serpents, sent by the Lord, kill
many Israelites.
NU 21:35 With the Lord's approval, the Israelites
slay Og "... and his sons and all his people, until
there was not one survivor left ...."
NU 25:4 (KJV) "And the Lord said unto Moses,
take all the heads of the people, and hang them
up before the Lord against the sun ...."
NU 25:8 "He went after the man of Israel into the
tent, and thrust both of them through, the man of
Israel, and the woman through her belly."
NU 25:9 24,000 people die in a plague from the
Lord.
NU 31:9 The Israelites capture Midianite women
and children.
NU 31:17-18 Moses, following the Lord's
command, orders the Israelites to kill all the
Midianite male children and "... every woman who
has known man ...." (Note: How would it be
determined which women had known men? One
can only speculate.)
NU 31:31-40 32,000 virgins are taken by the
Israelites as booty. Thirty-two are set aside (to
be sacrificed?) as a tribute for the Lord.
DT 2:33-34 The Israelites utterly destroy the men,
women, and children of Sihon.
DT 3:6 The Israelites utterly destroy the men,
women, and children of Og.
DT 7:2 The Lord commands the Israelites to
"utterly destroy" and show "no mercy" to those
whom he gives them for defeat.
DT 20:13-14 "When the Lord delivers it into your
hand, put to the sword all the males .... As for
the women, the children, the livestock and
everything else in the city, you may take these as
plunder for yourselves."
DT 20:16 "In the cities of the nations the Lord is
giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive
anything that breathes."
DT 21:10-13 With the Lord's approval, the
Israelites are allowed to take "beautiful women"
from the enemy camp to be their captive wives.
If, after sexual relations, the husband has "no
delight" in his wife, he can simply let her go.
DT 28:53 "You will eat the fruit of the womb, the
flesh of the sons and daughters the Lord your
God has given you."
JS 1:1-9 , 18 Joshua receives the Lord's blessing
for all the bloody endeavors to follow.
JS 6:21-27 With the Lord's approval, Joshua
destroys the city of Jericho--men, women, and
children--with the edge of the sword.
JS 7:19-26 Achan, his children and his cattle are
stoned to death because Achan had taken a
taboo thing.
JS 8:22-25 With the Lord's approval, Joshua
utterly smites the people of Ai, killing 12,000 men
and women, so that there were none who
escaped.
JS 10:10-27 With the help of the Lord, Joshua
utterly destroys the Gibeonites.
JS 10:28 With the Lord's approval, Joshua utterly
destroys the people of Makkedah.
JS 10:30 With the Lord's approval, Joshua utterly
destroys the Libnahites.
JS 10:32-33 With the Lord's approval, Joshua
utterly destroys the people of Lachish.
JS 10:34-35 With the Lord's approval, Joshua
utterly destroys the Eglonites.
JS 10:36-37 With the Lord's approval, Joshua
utterly destroys the Hebronites.
JS 10:38-39 With the Lord's approval, Joshua
utterly destroys the Debirites.
JS 10:40 (A summary statement.) "So Joshua
defeated the whole land ...; he left none
remaining, but destroyed all that breathed, as the
Lord God of Israel commanded."
JS 11:6 The Lord orders horses to be hamstrung.
(Exceedingly cruel.)
JS 11:8-15 "And the lord gave them into the hand
of Israel, ...utterly destroying them; there was
none left that breathed ...."
JS 11:20 "For it was the Lord's doing to harden
their hearts that they should come against Israel
in battle, in order that they should be utterly
destroyed, and should receive no mercy but be
exterminated, as the Lord commanded Moses."
JS 11:21-23 Joshua utterly destroys the Anakim.
JG 1:4 With the Lord's support, Judah defeats
10,000 Canaanites at Bezek.
JG 1:6 With the Lord's approval, Judah pursues
Adoni-bezek, catches him, and cuts off his
thumbs and big toes.
JG 1:8 With the Lord's approval, Judah smites
Jerusalem.
JG 1:17 With the Lord's approval, Judah and
Simeon utterly destroy the Canaanites who
inhabited Zephath.
JG 3:29 The Israelites kill about 10,000 Moabites.
JG 3:31 (A restatement.) Shamgar killed 600
Philistines with an oxgoad.
JG 4:21 Jael takes a tent stake and hammers it
through the head of Sisera, fastening it to the
ground.
JG 7:19-25 The Gideons defeat the Midianites,
slay their princes, cut off their heads, and bring
the heads back to Gideon.
JG 8:15-21 The Gideons slaughter the men of
Penuel.
JG 9:5 Abimalech murders his brothers.
JG 9:45 Abimalech and his men kill all the people
in the city.
JG 9:53-54 "A woman dropped a stone on his
head and cracked his skull. Hurriedly he called to
his armor-bearer, 'Draw your sword and kill me,
so that they can't say a woman killed me.' So his
servant ran him through, and he died."
JG 11:29-39 Jepthah sacrifices his beloved
daughter, his only child, according to a vow he
has made with the Lord.
JG 14:19 The Spirit of the Lord comes upon a
man and causes him to slay thirty men.
JG 15:15 Samson slays 1000 men with the
jawbone of an ass.
JG 16:21 The Philistines gouge out Samson's
eyes.
JG 16:27-30 Samson, with the help of the Lord,
pulls down the pillars of the Philistine house and
causes his own death and that of 3000 other men
and women.
JG 18:27 The Danites slay the quiet and
unsuspecting people of Laish.
JG 19:22-29 A group of sexual depraved men
beat on the door of an old man's house
demanding that he turn over to them a male
house guest. Instead, the old man offers his
virgin daughter and his guest's concubine (or
wife): "Behold, here are my virgin daughter and
his concubine; let me bring them out now. Ravish
them and do with them what seems good to you;
but against this man do not do so vile a thing."
The man's concubine is ravished and dies. The
man then cuts her body into twelve pieces and
sends one piece to each of the twelve tribes of
Israel.
JG 20:43-48 The Israelites smite 25,000+ "men of
valor" from amongst the Benjamites, "men and
beasts and all that they found," and set their
towns on fire.
JG 21:10-12 "... Go and smite the inhabitants of
Jabesh-gilead with the edge of the sword and;
also the women and little ones.... every male and
every woman that has lain with a male you shall
utterly destroy." They do so and find four hundred
young virgins whom they bring back for their own
use.
1SA 4:10 The Philistines slay 30,000 Israelite foot
soldiers.
1SA 5:6-9 The Lord afflicts the Philistines with
tumors in their "secret parts," presumably for
having stolen the Ark.
1SA 6:19 God kills seventy men (or so) for
looking into the Ark (at him?). (Note: The early
Israelites apparently thought the Ark to be God's
abode.)
1SA 7:7-11 Samuel and his men smite the
Philistines.
1SA 11:11 With the Lord's blessing, Saul and his
men cut down the Ammonites.
1SA 14:31 Jonathan and his men strike down the
Philistines.
1SA 14:48 Saul smites the Amalekites.
1SA 15:3 , 7-8 "This is what the Lord says: Now
go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that
they have; do not spare them, but kill both man
and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep,
camel and ass ....' And Saul ... utterly destroyed
all the people with the edge of the sword."
1SA 15:33 "Samuel hewed Agag in pieces before
the Lord ...."
1SA 18:7 The women sing as they make merry:
"Saul has slain his thousands and David his ten
thousands."
1SA 27:8-11 "David left neither man nor woman
alive ....". (Note: This implies that children and
infants were included in the slaughter.)
1SA 30:17 David smites the Amalekites.
2SA 2:23 Abner kills Asahel.
2SA 3:30 Joab and Abishai kill Abner.
2SA 4:7-8 Rechan and Baanah kill Ish-bosheth,
behead him, and take his head to David.
2SA 4:12 David has Rechan and Baanah killed,
their hands and feet cut off, and their bodies
hanged by the pool at Hebron.
2SA 5:25 "And David did as the Lord commanded
him, and smote the Philistines ...."
2SA 6:2-23 Because she rebuked him for having
exposed himself, Michal (David's wife) was barren
throughout her life.
2SA 8:1-18 (A listing of some of David's
murderous conquests.)
2SA 8:4 David hamstrung all but a few of the
horses.
2SA 8:5 David slew 22,000 Syrians.
2SA 8:6 , 14 "The Lord gave victory to David
wherever he went."
2SA 8:13 David slew 18,000 Edomites in the
valley of salt and made the rest slaves.
2SA 10:18 David slew 47,000+ Syrians.
2SA 11:14-27 David has Uriah killed so that he
can marry Uriah's wife, Bathsheba.
2SA 12:1 , 19 The Lord strikes David's child dead
for the sin that David has committed.
2SA 13:1-15 Amnon loves his sister Tamar, rapes
her, then hates her.
2SA 13:28-29 Absalom has Amnon murdered.
2SA 18:6 -7 20,000 men are slaughtered at the
battle in the forest of Ephraim.
2SA 18:15 Joab's men murder Absalom.
2SA 20:10-12 Joab's men murder Amasa and
leave him "... wallowing in his own blood in the
highway. And anyone who came by, seeing him,
stopped."
2SA 24:15 The Lord sends a pestilence on Israel
that kills 70,000 men.
1KI 2:24-25 Solomon has Adonijah murdered.
1KI 2:29-34 Solomon has Joab murdered.
1KI 2:46 Solomon has Shime-i murdered.
1KI 13:15-24 A man is killed by a lion for eating
bread and drinking water in a place where the
Lord had previously told him not to. This is in
spite of the fact that the man had subsequently
been lied to by a prophet who told the man that
an angel of the Lord said that it would be alright
to eat and drink there.
1KI 20:29-30 The Israelites smite 100,000 Syrian
soldiers in one day. A wall falls on 27,000
remaining Syrians.
2KI 1:10-12 Fire from heaven comes down and
consumes fifty men.
2KI 2:23-24 Forty-two children are mauled and
killed, presumably according to the will of God,
for having jeered at a man of God.
2KI 5:27 Elisha curses Gehazi and his
descendants forever with leprosy.
2KI 6:18-19 The Lord answers Elisha's prayer and
strikes the Syrians with blindness. Elisha tricks
the blind Syrians and leads them to Samaria.
2KI 6:29 "So we cooked my son and ate him. The
next day I said to her, 'Give up your son so we
may eat him,' but she had hidden him."
2KI 9:24 Jehu tricks and murders Joram.
2KI 9:27 Jehu has Ahaziah killed.
2KI 9:30-37 Jehu has Jezebel killed. Her body is
trampled by horses. Dogs eat her flesh so that
only her skull, feet, and the palms of her hands
remain.
2KI 10:7 Jehu has Ahab's seventy sons beheaded,
then sends the heads to their father.
2KI 10:14 Jehu has forty-two of Ahab's kin killed.
2KI 10:17 "And when he came to Samaria, he
slew all that remained to Ahab in Samaria, till he
had wiped them out, according to the word of the
Lord ...."
2KI 10:19-27 Jehu uses trickery to massacre the
Baal worshippers.
2KI 11:1 Athaliah destroys all the royal family.
2KI 14:5 , 7 Amaziah kills his servants and then
10,000 Edomites.
2KI 15:3-5 Even though he did what was right in
the eyes of the Lord, the Lord smites Azariah with
leprosy for not having removed the "high places."
2KI 15:16 Menahem ripped open all the women
who were pregnant.
2KI 19:35 An angel of the Lord kills 185,000 men.
1CH 20:3 (KJV) "And he brought out the people
that were in it, and cut them with saws, and with
harrows of iron, and with axes."
2CH 13:17 500,000 Israelites are slaughtered.
2CH 21:4 Jehoram slays all his brothers.
PS 137:9 Happy will be the man who dashes your
little ones against the stones.
PS 144:1 God is praised as the one who trains
hands for war and fingers for battle.
IS 13:15 "Everyone who is captured will be thrust
through; all who are caught will fall by the
sword. Their infants will be dashed to pieces
before their eyes; their ... wives will be ravished."
IS 13:18 "Their bows also shall dash the young
men to pieces; and they shall have no pity on the
fruit of the womb; their eye shall not spare
children."
IS 14:21-22 "Prepare slaughter for his children for
the iniquity of their fathers."
IS 49:26 The Lord will cause the oppressors of
the Israelite's to eat their own flesh and to
become drunk on their own blood as with wine.
JE 16:4 "They shall die grievous deaths; they
shall not be lamented; neither shall they be
buried; but they shall be as dung upon the face
of the earth: and they shall be consumed by the
sword, and by famine; and their carcasses shall
be meat for the fowls of heaven, and for the
beasts of the earth."
LA 4:9-10 "Those slain by the sword are better off
than those who die of famine; racked with
hunger, they waste away for lack of food. ...
pitiful women have cooked their own children,
who became their food ..."
EZ 6:12-13 The Lord says: "... they will fall by the
sword, famine and plague. He that is far away
will die of the plague, and he that is near will fall
by the sword, and he that survives and is spared
will die of famine. So will I spend my wrath upon
them. And they will know I am the Lord, when the
people lie slain among their idols around their
altars, on every high hill and on all the
mountaintops, under every spreading tree and
every leafy oak ...."
EZ 9:4-6 The Lord commands: "... slay old men
outright, young men and maidens, little children
and women ...."
EZ 20:26 In order that he might horrify them, the
Lord allowed the Israelites to defile themselves
through, amongst other things, the sacrifice of
their first-born children.
EZ 21:3-4 The Lord says that he will cut off both
the righteous and the wicked that his sword shall
go against all flesh.
EZ 23:25 , 47 God is going to slay the sons and
daughters of those who were whores.
EZ 23:34 "You shall ... pluck out your hair, and
tear your breasts."
HO 13:16 "They shall fall by the sword: their
infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their
women with child shall be ripped up."
MI 3:2-3 "... who pluck off their skin ..., and their
flesh from off their bones; Who also eat the flesh
of my people, and flay their skin from off them;
and they break their bones, and chop them in
pieces, as for the pot, and as flesh within the
caldron."
MT 3:12 , 8:12 , 10:21 , 13:30 , 42, 22:13 , 24:51 ,
25:30 , LK 13:28 , JN 5:24 Some will spend eternity
burning in Hell. There will be weeping, wailing and
gnashing of teeth.
MT 10:21 "... the brother shall deliver up his
brother to death, and the father his child, ...
children shall rise up against their parents, and
cause them to be put to death."
MT 10:35-36 "For I have come to turn a man
against his father, a daughter against her mother,
a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law a
man's enemies will be the members of his own
family."
MT 11:21-24 Jesus curses [the inhabitants of]
three cities who were not sufficiently impressed
with his great works.
AC 13:11 Paul purposefully blinds a man (though
not permanently).

....his followers continue his work,making daddy proud murdering millions in his name throughout the course of history
Re: Islam: Befriending Unbelievers by enilove(m): 10:33am On Dec 26, 2017
Rashduct4luv:
Matthew 7:5

You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.

The three gods in the Bible committed several atrocities that these Christians always overlook. Hypocrites.

See this verses Numbers 31:17-18

Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man,
but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.
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how will they know a lady has slept with a man?
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They killed all the boys, and all the non-virgins. Then they saved the virgins for themselves. how?

This same hypocrites will complain that Mohammed married a 6year old girl with her parents consent.

hypocrisy of the highest level.

What is hypocrisy of the highest order?

You said they should remove the plank from their own eyes to see clearly , is that from the Quran or the Bible?

When the Jews don't carry out those things you mentioned nowadays , have they not remove the plank from their eyes , thereby seeing clearly that what Muhammed did and commanded his devilish followers to do are evil?

From the beginning of Christianity to date , non of those things were done by the church and Christians.
From the beginning of Islam to date , all those things the Op mentioned were done by Muhammed and his followers as at then and now by some muslims globally.
Who then is an hypocrite ?

Why would any sane person be justifying Pedophilia ?

Book 008, Number 3310:

'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported: Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) married me when I was six years old, and I was admitted to his house when I was nine years old.

The thought of a 56 year-old man sleeping and bathling with a young girl of 9 year-old is intensely unpleasant and it shows the disgusting character of a sexually enslaved man rather than a holy man.

Volume 1, Book 5, Number 268:
Narrated Qatada:
Anas bin Malik said, "The Prophet used to visit all his wives in a round, during the day and night and they were eleven in number." I asked Anas, "Had the Prophet the strength for it?" Anas replied, "We used to say that the Prophet was given the strength of thirty (men)." And Sa'id said on the authority of Qatada that Anas had told him about nine wives only (not eleven).

For sure his moral character is questionable .

Allah SWT says:
وَإِذْ تَقُولُ لِلَّذِىٓ أَنْعَمَ اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَأَنْعَمْتَ عَلَيْهِ أَمْسِكْ عَلَيْكَ زَوْجَكَ وَاتَّقِ اللَّهَ وَتُخْفِى فِى نَفْسِكَ مَا اللَّهُ مُبْدِيهِ وَتَخْشَى النَّاسَ وَاللَّهُ أَحَقُّ أَنْ تَخْشٰىهُ ۖ فَلَمَّا قَضٰى زَيْدٌ مِّنْهَا وَطَرًا زَوَّجْنٰكَهَا لِكَىْ لَا يَكُونَ عَلَى الْمُؤْمِنِينَ حَرَجٌ فِىٓ أَزْوٰجِ أَدْعِيَآئِهِمْ إِذَا قَضَوْا مِنْهُنَّ وَطَرًا ۚ وَكَانَ أَمْرُ اللَّهِ مَفْعُولًا
"And [remember, O Muhammad], when you said to the one on whom Allah bestowed favor and you bestowed favor, "Keep your wife and fear Allah," while you concealed within yourself that which Allah is to disclose. And you feared the people, while Allah has more right that you fear Him. So when Zayd had no longer any need for her, We married her to you in order that there not be upon the believers any discomfort concerning the wives of their adopted sons when they no longer have need of them. And ever is the command of Allah accomplished."
(QS. Al-Ahzaab: Verse 37)

How can we say his revelation were divine for someone who took his sons wife, married 6year old, and used to have sex with eleven women on a daily bases.
Closer look at his revelations , you will discover that his revelations were nothing but dictates of personal convenience , just like Aishat pointed out below :

Volume 7, Book 62, Number 48:

Narrated Hisham's father:
Sahih Bukhari
Khaula bint Hakim was one of those ladies who presented themselves to the Prophet for marriage. 'Aisha said, "Doesn't a lady feel ashamed for presenting herself to a man?" But when the Verse: "(O Muhammad) You may postpone (the turn of) any of them (your wives) that you please,' (33.51) was revealed, " 'Aisha said, 'O Allah's Apostle! I do not see, but, that your Lord HURRIES in pleasing you.' "

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Re: Islam: Befriending Unbelievers by Rashduct4luv(m): 4:56pm On Dec 26, 2017
enilove:


What is hypocrisy of the highest order?

You said they should remove the plank from their own eyes to see clearly , is that from the Quran or the Bible?

When the Jews don't carry out those things you mentioned nowadays , have they not remove the plank from their eyes , thereby seeing clearly that what Muhammed did and commanded his devilish followers to do are evil?

From the beginning of Christianity to date , non of those things were done by the church and Christians.
From the beginning of Islam to date , all those things the Op mentioned were done by Muhammed and his followers as at then and now by some muslims globally.
Who then is an hypocrite ?

Why would any sane person be justifying Pedophilia ?

Book 008, Number 3310:

'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported: Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) married me when I was six years old, and I was admitted to his house when I was nine years old.

The thought of a 56 year-old man sleeping and bathling with a young girl of 9 year-old is intensely unpleasant and it shows the disgusting character of a sexually enslaved man rather than a holy man.

Volume 1, Book 5, Number 268:
Narrated Qatada:
Anas bin Malik said, "The Prophet used to visit all his wives in a round, during the day and night and they were eleven in number." I asked Anas, "Had the Prophet the strength for it?" Anas replied, "We used to say that the Prophet was given the strength of thirty (men)." And Sa'id said on the authority of Qatada that Anas had told him about nine wives only (not eleven).

For sure his moral character is questionable .

Allah SWT says:
وَإِذْ تَقُولُ لِلَّذِىٓ أَنْعَمَ اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَأَنْعَمْتَ عَلَيْهِ أَمْسِكْ عَلَيْكَ زَوْجَكَ وَاتَّقِ اللَّهَ وَتُخْفِى فِى نَفْسِكَ مَا اللَّهُ مُبْدِيهِ وَتَخْشَى النَّاسَ وَاللَّهُ أَحَقُّ أَنْ تَخْشٰىهُ ۖ فَلَمَّا قَضٰى زَيْدٌ مِّنْهَا وَطَرًا زَوَّجْنٰكَهَا لِكَىْ لَا يَكُونَ عَلَى الْمُؤْمِنِينَ حَرَجٌ فِىٓ أَزْوٰجِ أَدْعِيَآئِهِمْ إِذَا قَضَوْا مِنْهُنَّ وَطَرًا ۚ وَكَانَ أَمْرُ اللَّهِ مَفْعُولًا
"And [remember, O Muhammad], when you said to the one on whom Allah bestowed favor and you bestowed favor, "Keep your wife and fear Allah," while you concealed within yourself that which Allah is to disclose. And you feared the people, while Allah has more right that you fear Him. So when Zayd had no longer any need for her, We married her to you in order that there not be upon the believers any discomfort concerning the wives of their adopted sons when they no longer have need of them. And ever is the command of Allah accomplished."
(QS. Al-Ahzaab: Verse 37)

How can we say his revelation were divine for someone who took his sons wife, married 6year old, and used to have sex with eleven women on a daily bases.
Closer look at his revelations , you will discover that his revelations were nothing but dictates of personal convenience , just like Aishat pointed out below :

Volume 7, Book 62, Number 48:

Narrated Hisham's father:
Sahih Bukhari
Khaula bint Hakim was one of those ladies who presented themselves to the Prophet for marriage. 'Aisha said, "Doesn't a lady feel ashamed for presenting herself to a man?" But when the Verse: "(O Muhammad) You may postpone (the turn of) any of them (your wives) that you please,' (33.51) was revealed, " 'Aisha said, 'O Allah's Apostle! I do not see, but, that your Lord HURRIES in pleasing you.' "















Who told you Boko haram is not following that verse from your Bible?
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and are you not tired of these same copy and paste you have been doing since over a year? haven't we debunked it several times? comment on that verse from numbers 31: 17-18, tell us why Jesus ordered such paedophilia, rape, forced marriage and killings. if you can't explain, please don't reply with another copy and paste.
Re: Islam: Befriending Unbelievers by enilove(m): 5:39pm On Dec 26, 2017
Rashduct4luv:


Who told you Boko haram is not following that verse from your Bible?
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and are you not tired of these same copy and paste you have been doing since over a year? haven't we debunked it several times? comment on that verse from numbers 31: 17-18, tell us why Jesus ordered such paedophilia, rape, forced marriage and killings. if you can't explain, please don't reply with another copy and paste.

There are videos and pictures of Shekau , the leader of the Book Haram, holding Quran and guns but not Bible and guns.
That is to tell you he is following the verses of the Quran and not the Bible.

Are you tired of reading your Quran and hadith? I copy paste for you to read.
What do you mean by debunk? Can you debunk something written in black and white and still practiced by Muslims around the world now?

To explain Numbers 31:17-19,

Numbers 31:1-2,7-8,16-18 KJV
And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying,
[2] Avenge the children of Israel of the Midianites: afterward shalt thou be gathered unto thy people.
[7] And they warred against the Midianites, as the Lord commanded Moses; and they slew all the males.
[8] And they slew the kings of Midian, beside the rest of them that were slain; namely , Evi, and Rekem, and Zur, and Hur, and Reba, five kings of Midian: Balaam also the son of Beor they slew with the sword.
[16] Behold, these caused the children of Israel, through the counsel of Balaam, to commit trespass against the Lord in the matter of Peor, and there was a plague among the congregation of the Lord .
[17] Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.
[18] But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.

The children of Israel went to avenged of the crime the people of Mideanites committed against them when they were coming out of Egypt.

Secondly, this was a war BTW two nations and not a religious
war to spread Judaism.

Thirdly, There is no nation or tribe of the world that has not fought wars before including the Yorubas.

Fourthly, they did not rape the women and Moses did not take any woman for himself unlike Muhammed.

Sixth point, there is a difference btw Christianity and Judaism.

Lastly, that was not an open-ended kind of war unlike the Islam that does not have time limit or restricted to Arabia region. The Israelites has not been forcing any nation to accept Judaism . If they had wanted , they would have destroyed the Arabs or convert them to worship the God of Israel.
Re: Islam: Befriending Unbelievers by Rashduct4luv(m): 5:52pm On Dec 26, 2017
enilove:


There are videos and pictures of Shekau , the leader of the Book Haram, holding Quran and guns but not Bible and guns.
That is to tell you he is following the verses of the Quran and not the Bible.


SubhanaAllah, so if I hold a Bible on TV now makes me a Christian?
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Actually, you have clicked you believe in Allah and the Prophet Muhammad salallahu alayhi wasalam several times on NL and that doesn't make you a Muslim. So, just as you are here pretending to be among us so also there's a possibility that boko-haram are pretending to be Muslims.
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Saying Shahadah before committing suicide doesn't mean that person is a Muslim. People lie with anything this days.
Re: Islam: Befriending Unbelievers by enilove(m): 7:26pm On Dec 26, 2017
Rashduct4luv:


SubhanaAllah, so if I hold a Bible on TV now makes me a Christian?
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Actually, you have clicked you believe in Allah and the Prophet Muhammad salallahu alayhi wasalam several times on NL and that doesn't make you a Muslim. So, just as you are here pretending to be among us so also there's a possibility that boko-haram are pretending to be Muslims.
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Saying Shahadah before committing suicide doesn't mean that person is a Muslim. People lie with anything this days.


You are mistaking me for someone else. I have never clicked anything to say I believe in Allah and Muhammed neither will I ever worship Allah . I am not a liar ,the Bible tells us that every liar will go to hell. What would I lie for.I am not like the Muslims that lie and call it TAQIYYAH.

This the religion section, how am I pretending to be among you Muslim?

If the Book Haram are lying , what about ISIS , Hezbollah , Osama bin Ladin ? Are they pretending too?
Re: Islam: Befriending Unbelievers by Rashduct4luv(m): 7:58pm On Dec 26, 2017
enilove:



You are mistaking me for someone else. I have never clicked anything to say I believe in Allah and Muhammed neither will I ever worship Allah . I am not a liar ,the Bible tells us that every liar will go to hell. What would I lie for.I am not like the Muslims that lie and call it TAQIYYAH.

This the religion section, how am I pretending to be among you Muslim?

If the Book Haram are lying , what about ISIS , Hezbollah , Osama bin Ladin ? Are they pretending too?

You are a liar.
can you describe the politics involved with the sects you mentioned. I mean their politics with the US of A.
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Give the details of thou sayest the truth!

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