Reacting to a recent reported visit of religious leaders to ailing Nigerian president Yar' Adua, Wole Soyinka alleged that the president was a victim of spousal abuse. The Nobel laureate made the remarks while talking to reporters after delivering a lecture titled ‘Leadership and Follower-ship as shared responsibility’ at an event organized by the Nigerian Economic Summit Group (NESG). The president was last seen in public late in 2009 and a lot has been written about his illness and probable incapacitation as well as the role of his wife, Turai in the ensuing political struggles. However not to my knowledge has anyone really looked at the relationship of the "first" couple in the context of spousal abuse. Wole Soyinka's analysis really got me thinking.

Spousal abuse can be broadly defined as a pattern of abusive behaviors by one or both partners in an intimate relationship such as marriage, dating, family, friends or cohabitation. There are two common misconceptions about this topic. Firstly, spousal abuse is not limited in any way to physical abuse and goes much further than physical beatings. There are other abuses that are just as damaging and serious including verbal and emotional abuse, psychological abuse, financial abuse, and sexual abuse. Secondly, women, although in the majority, are not the only victims of physical or emotional abuse. Spousal abuse is committed by both males and females in relationships. Spousal abuse involving men is often overlooked or ignored by society due to the stigma. In the United States for example, where spousal abuse has been studied extensively as a public health problem, it is estimated that men are 32 percent less likely than women to report any form of violent victimization. Studies also show that women are far more likely to enlist help and to use weapons in abusing their spouses. So is Yar' Adua a victim of spousal abuse?

Shehu Musa Yar'Adua, the elder brother to President Yar'Adua was reported to have told the people of Katsina (before Umaru Yar' Adua became governor) that any vote for his younger brother was a vote for Turai. This was a tacit acknowledgement of Turai’s influence in the Yar'Adua household. There is also a general belief that for his wife, Turai Yar'Adua, President Umaru Yar'Adua most likely would not have contested the 2007 presidential election, in consideration of his failing health.

Such is the commanding influence of Turai who has been Nigeria's first lady since 2007 and who has been likened to Eva Peron of Argentina. Strong-willed, cold-blooded and calculating, she is alleged to have commanded the loyalty of erstwhile cabinet ministers and state governors. Political wannabes continually flocked to her patronage.

Her husband, President Yar' Adua is known to have chronic kidney problems as a result of a medical condition called Churg-Strauss syndrome. His kidneys having failed, he had been on dialysis for quite some time, necessitating several medical visits overseas, even while he was still governor of Katsina state. In November 2009, he was rushed to Saudi Arabia for treatment, having taken ill due to an inflammation of the membrane that surrounds the heart, a condition called acute pericarditis. This condition is a known complication of end-stage kidney failure. While in Saudi, his hospital course was complicated by severe respiratory problems, necessitating his placement on a mechanical ventilator (life support machine). It is also strongly suspected that he also suffered a massive stroke, which left him severely debilitated and incapacitated.

Running a government is no child play. More so, running the federal government of a country like Nigeria. Prior to the president’s evacuation to Saudi, the process of government got so stalled that practically everything came to a halt. A return to power for the ailing president was therefore not only morally wrong but also impractical. In such circumstances, a wife, loving of her husband and her country would have removed her husband from national limelight by championing his immediate resignation, thereby moving the country forward and optimizing conditions for the sick man’s eventual recovery.

Turai however did not reckon as such. She enlisted the help of the much touted cabal and manipulated the apparatus of state, including the judiciary and the military - weapons that she utilized to maximum effect in her attempts to usurp her husband's throne and hold unto power at all costs. She continually deceived Nigerian's about the true state of health of her husband. At a time when the image of the country was being rubbished by civil unrest and a terror plot involving a Nigerian, her actions tarnished whatever good image that was left of her husband while further casting the nation in bad light. In her cunning and scheming, she even stopped the president's mother and family from visiting him thereby depriving her husband of essential ingredients that may have aided his psychological healing. Poor Yar' Adua! If only he could talk.

So much has since happened. Goodluck Jonathan is now Acting President and a semblance of normalcy has returned to government. Reported visits to the president by Islamic clerics and Christian religious leaders have not shed additional light on the president's circumstances. Was Wole Soyinka right in his assertion? Probably so. This is spousal abuse, presidential style!

Link:

http://www.saharareporters.com/articles/external-contrib/5756-spousal-abuse-presidential-style.html

What does Wole Soyinka know about spousal abuse nd spousal love, wher is Soyinka's wife.
Is it bad for a man nd his wife to be very close, is it bad for a man to always listen to his wife nd take counsel frm her.
When Shehu made dat statement and if indeed he made it, it shld serve as a compliment, because in d north women are only seen but not heard, but Yaradua nd Turai practised somtin else nd it shld be xpected dat most people won't nd can't apreciate dat kind of relationship its just abnormal to them.
Also if u read El Rufai article on Yaradua he described Yaradua as a radical, who is strong willed nd stubborn, don't forget dat in 1979 elections he joined d oposition party to his familys party in katsina nd the party he belonged to won d elections but when he was nominated to serve in d cabinet he declined because his family members objected to it. This tells u dat he has a mind of his own, wen it comes to issues such as politics he choses where he wants to stand, but when d family demands responsibility frm him he acedes their request.
Yaradua a muslim stays faithful to his first wife, though he has a 2nd wife who he had divorced b4 bcomin a gov, is not known to engage in extra marital affairs or have children frm oda women, can we compare him with Obj a christian who is well known for his philanderin and could even offer xplanation 4 sleepin with his sons wife, how many politicians in our political space hold their wifes nd by extension their family dear, Yerima definitely doesn't listen to his wife hence cld go ahead nd marry a 13yr old girl, Yuguda is not spousal abused dats y he cld marry Yaraduas daughta as 4th wife nd make her 1st lady ova his oda wives, Ali Modu Sherif or who was it in d north dat had 2 creat offices 4 d 1st,2nd,3rd nd 4th ladies in a state.
Yaradua has shown himself 2 b a responsible man who listens to his wife, if Yaradua cld defy Obj at some point den y do we tink dat he doesn't stand up to his wife nd trust me on some issues he puts his leg down on her.
The Yaradua xample shld be encouraged so dat our leaders cld b more responsible to their families nd if dat is spousal abuse I recommend it 4 Soyinka nd Obasanjo.

^^^^ are you saying tha Soyinka is not married or have no kids

@ Marvix, your half-arsed reasoning truly takes my breath away!

@ Marvix

I wonder what the basis is for your support for Turai. You should know that Turai's attitude almost ruined our democracy and has completely robbed her husband of the necessary sympathy of Nigerians

@Chiosor, u tell me where is Soyinkas wife.
@Alliere, gues u neva grew up in a house were dad nd mum were on d same page or u may just have had an elder broda who is ur guardian but who in ur own thinkin was unable to cater 4 u properly because of his wife. Hisses if u lik throw away all ur breath.

@desgiezed I don't agree wit u, it can't be her fault, the way I look at it is dat d Nigerian way of always wantin to blame a wife for her husbands woes is unfair nd wrong. All those critisisin her are no beta dan in laws who acuse wives of killin their husbands, they are not beta dan pple who insist dat a woman must shave her head 2 mourn her husband nd drink d water used in bathin his corpse.

Marvix, your line of reasoning is amazing, although i hate getting personal in arguments but i am certain you have a personal stake in Turai. Wole Soyinka is alleging spousal abuse on Turai and instead of you to defend against the charge, you go about attacking Soyinka's marriage. So you are saying only a married lawyer or judge can handle a case of spousal abuse if brought to a court.

I have always said, that Turai is abusing her husband. And i allege that she is doing it for personal gain. Yaradua should be in the hands of the best medical services, this planet can offer. He should be in either the US, france britain or germany in the hand of the best specialist and equipments. But No, he is wasting away in seclusion in Aso Rock, on the orders of his wife. I am not even talking about the disgrace the Nation is made to pass through, i am talking about Yaradua's personal health and well being which should be of the utmost importance.

The most pathetic thing is that, Yaradua is isolated, lonely and alone. No condolence by friends, colleagues and family. Imagine being sick an not receiving well wishes, flowers, gifts, and get well cards form friends and family. Being around loved one is part and parcel of a recovery process - ask any psychologist.

I really feel sorry for President Yaradua.

@wirinet I didn't say Soyinka must be married 2 give dat kind of coment but only asked wat kind of relationship does he hav wit his wife.
Yaradua has bin in Saudi do u think dose docs are inferior 2 docs in britain nd france I say no. The docs may have done all they cld nd given up hope but tell d wife dat prayers wld do. All these politicians nd pple complainin dat they want 2 c Yaradua have they bought d cards or flowers nd must Yaradua receive it personally are they actually goin there 2 wish him well or mock him nd compound his prob, or wat wld a visit of someone like Soyinka do, after his visit he comes out nd start usin derogatory terms to describe d illness nd even kill d hope of d wife nd family by his utterances. Pls pple don't 4get its our pple dat say dat at the burial of a man who was killed u find d pple dat killed him. Lastly I don't have anythin personal wit Turai or d Cabal but just state my view as a man who experienced somtin lik dis wen my dad was sick.

please I am interested on Soyinka, Marvix where is SOYINKA WIFE

marvix:

@wirinet I didn't say Soyinka must be married 2 give dat kind of coment but only asked wat kind of relationship does he hav wit his wife.
Yaradua has bin in Saudi do u think dose docs are inferior 2 docs in britain nd france I say no. The docs may have done all they cld nd given up hope but tell d wife dat prayers wld do. All these politicians nd pple complainin dat they want 2 c Yaradua have they bought d cards or flowers nd must Yaradua receive it personally are they actually goin there 2 wish him well or mock him nd compound his prob, or wat wld a visit of someone like Soyinka do, after his visit he comes out nd start usin derogatory terms to describe d illness nd even kill d hope of d wife nd family by his utterances. Pls pple don't 4get its our pple dat say dat at the burial of a man who was killed u find d pple dat killed him. Lastly I don't have anythin personal wit Turai or d Cabal but just state my view as a man who experienced somtin lik dis wen my dad was sick.

If you want to comment on Soyinka's marital problems, open a new thread and i will comment based on the merits of the argument. But if we are taking about the allegation of Turai spousal abuse, lets stick to the issues and topic raised.

The US, France and Britain has far superior medical facilities than Saudi Arabia. I cannot even say if Saudi medical facilities are better than that of South Africa or even Dubai. I have not heard of any other president or very important personality going to treat a very complicated case in Saudi. Yassar Afafat went to France for his condition, when Saudi Arabia is just a stone throw away. Boris Yelsin went to the US to treat his heart condition at the same hospital Kanu went to treat his, as the doctor there was reputed to be the best in the world. Even the crown prince of Saudi Arabia went to the US to treat his illness.

I think Turai chose Saudi Arabia, because that is the only place, where the true condition of Yaradua can be hidden.

I am not saying every tom dick and harry should go and visit Yaradua, i said close friends and family. But in a situation where even the Mother is complaining that she is not allowed to see her son, calls for questions.

@Chiosor, sorry I don't know abt Soyinkas wife nd I'm not interested in his marital life, but all I was tryin 2 ask was does he enjoy a marital life nd does he really understand what it means 4 a man to love, cherish nd respect his wife as a politician in Nigeria and bein a muslim.

In Nigeria once a man is loyal 2 his wife pple attribute it to juju as though it is abnormal to love ur wife nd listen 2 her.


@wirinet, if u are not askin every tom, manliness nd harry 2 c Yaradua den who can or shld decide who nd who can c d man. Do u think its evry time a man is sick he wants his aged mother 2 c him, did u read a thread of a lady who was shot by robbers on her way 2 NYSC camp, she specifically requested her uncle not 2 tell her mom abt d incident nd d impendin surgery. Pls give this woman Turai a break she is attendin to a sick husband these are tryin times for her nd d family can't they at least nurse their wounds in private, must Yaradua resign 4 u 2 b happy or is ur success tied 2 his resignation.

@marvix who told u yar'adua did not engage in extramarital affairs when he was still strong?

Go and ask anybody that knows his background very well, the guy was a serial cheater and a chain smoker for that matter before nemesis started catching on him. He's only facing the consequences of his reckless past.

So try and seek the right info before u post cos "information is light"

@tolu where did u get ur info frm or are u one of his xtra marital affairs. He is a chain smoker but neva a womaniser, or can u fish out any of his bastard children or in all this heat do u think other children of other women wld be quiet. Read El Rufai piece on Yaradua, if as at 1991 Shehu his elder brother felt dat his wife was controllin him wen did he philander and pls where are d ladies he cheated with or are they all dead of kidney failure.


Pls don't cast aspersions on a gentle man like Yaradua, evry man has his weaknes but Yaraduas weaknes is not in women. In Objs tenure we heard rumors dat som married female ministas were sleepin wit him, that virgins were always kept 4 him I don't kno if these are true but in Yaraduas no rumor lik dat.


Pls anybody can fall sick, attributin it as punishment for his sins puts u in Gods stead nd all I can do is pity u because u are not dead yet nd don't know what will kill u. My pepole say "he who has not finished living does not laugh at a blind man"

@marvix I'm not laughing at a blind man here cos i'm not God and can never be, neither i'm a judging yar'adua based on his present predicament, my point precisely is this guy has been known to have different mistresses at different times which is a common attribute of a typical hausa man even though they pretend to be more holy than others and tend to hide their illicit affairs as much as they can.

The over-controlling power (spousal abuse) which turai has over her husband right from the start even though did not actaully stop him from cheating on her (when he could) is wht's causing the great pain and humiliation the man is currently facing and the political set back nigeria was put thru by Turai and her power drunk cohorts.

Anyway if you want to be sincere with urself and not give biased comment based on some kind of influence (money, personal relationship) then u will know that Turai has been using yar'adua has a tool to boost her selfish political interest at the detriment of the poor man and nigeria as a whole which is infact a severe spousal abuse.

@tolu, if I acede to ur arguement dat Yaradua had mistresses nd u claim dat Turai controls him, first nd foremost is it posible to be really controlled nd cheat then if he cheats who shld we talk abt of bein spousal abused.

Let's remove sentiments, tell me since yaraduas sickness came 2 a head in Nov, wat political interest of Turai has been boosted, she was pursuin a cancer centre wat has hapened 2 her pet project. The only thing she has bin fightin for her husbands life nd position in d society, if u want her 2 bliv dat her husband will get well y not leave his seat for him nd I'm sure wen she finally gives up on him or Yaradua gives up then they can resign. Did u listen 2 Yayale, he said they were treatin Yaradua wit sympathy, dats y Jonathan has not moved for the declaration of Yaradua incapacitated.
Is it dificult for u to sympathise, d man who has bin placed on perpetual actin capacity is not makin any fuss abt seein d man, pls show some sympathy. Lik I said b4 I don't know d Yaraduas or any memba of d cabal, just frm my personal xperience dats y I take dis stand. Its not easy to have a sick breadwinner of d family.

marvix anadokaa

@chiozor mayb I shld edit my name lol

marvix:

@Chiosor, sorry I don't know abt Soyinkas wife nd I'm not interested in his marital life, but all I was tryin 2 ask was does he enjoy a marital life nd does he really understand what it means 4 a man to love, cherish nd respect his wife as a politician in Nigeria and bein a muslim.

In Nigeria once a man is loyal 2 his wife pple attribute it to juju as though it is abnormal to love your wife nd listen 2 her.


@wirinet, if u are not askin every tom, manliness nd harry 2 c Yaradua den who can or shld decide who nd who can c d man. Do u think its evry time a man is sick he wants his aged mother 2 c him, did u read a thread of a lady who was shot by robbers on her way 2 NYSC camp, she specifically requested her uncle not 2 tell her mom abt d incident nd d impendin surgery. Pls give this woman Turai a break she is attendin to a sick husband these are tryin times for her nd d family can't they at least nurse their wounds in private, must Yaradua resign 4 u 2 b happy or is your success tied 2 his resignation.

You are ready to fight for Turai with everything you have got and even throw in the kitchen sink. You throw in highly unrelated and unreasonable points. First you throw in Soyinka's marriage, now you are throwing in a cork and bull story about a NYSC lady, who is about to undergo surgery with an instruction to the uncle not to inform her mother.  So why not tell us the complete story of how the corper was able to fund her medical bills without the knowledge of her parents.
What is the relationship of this story with the Yaradua episode? except you have an inside info, that Yaradua informed the wife that he does not want the mother to see him. As the mother is already aware of his sickness.

Turai does not need a break, if this was a sane country, the authorities would take more drastic measures to ascertain the true condition of a spouse who has been held incommunicado for so long. She cannot actually "attend" to her husband medically, that is left for medical practitioners to do, all any other person (including Turai) can do is to sympathize with him. And i say she is not allowing him to get the best medical attention possible. 

There you go on again spinning of the tangent, i have read this thread and i do not see where anybody talked about resignation. This thread is about allegation of spousal abuse on Turai by Prof. Wole Soyinka. It is about the refusal of Turai to put the life and well being of her husband above that of her personal interest (or the political interest of her husband  as she wants us to believe).

@wirinet, its not my fault dat u didnt see d story yesterday on the forum, im sure a lot of people didnt comment on it dats why i cant readily find it, but it was under the header crazy armed robbers shot at bus for 45 mins or something like that the ladys medical bills were paid by NYSC.

ok lets stick to the topic, can insisting that her husband should not be sacked or impeached be termed spousal abuse, not allowing the likes of Soyinka and co see her husband tantamont to spousal abuse. The man is sick can barely talk, that means when u come to c him u just look at him and he just looks at you any question would still be directed to his wife who has been by his side so what do u want to see him for, what would Jonathan be seeing him for and denying Jonathan a visit to Yaradua can not be termed spousal abuse.

When i started on this post all i was saying or trying to say is that Turai is just been a dutiful wife who does not want people who will judge her husband by his present condition and write him off, people want to move against the man but want to see him first so they can move, but definitely not Jonathan.

lets stop demonising the woman she is only doing what she thinks is the best to do under the present circumstance.

I have said it before if u have never experienced it u can never under stand it.

I wonder where women or ladies are on this forum.

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now you are throwing in a cork and bull story about a NYSC lady, who is about to undergo surgery with an instruction to the uncle not to inform her mother. So why not tell us the complete story of how the corper was able to fund her medical bills without the knowledge of her parents.


The Cock and bull story is on this link go and view it and maybe u can pick on d person who posted it here.
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-427314.0.html

at least i didnt write the story

marvix:

Quote from wirinet:

now you are throwing in a cork and bull story about a NYSC lady, who is about to undergo surgery with an instruction to the uncle not to inform her mother. So why not tell us the complete story of how the corper was able to fund her medical bills without the knowledge of her parents.


The Cock and bull story is on this link go and view it and maybe u can pick on d person who posted it here.
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-427314.0.html

at least i didnt write the story

Apologies for calling it a cork and bull story, but you must admit that you did not give me a link earlier or provide details of the story.

But having read the full story, i do not see the connection to the Yara dua's case. The ladies condition was not critical and she informed someone about the true condition of her health. She was very conscious and made the decision to protect the mother, maybe because she felt her case is not critical.
Here is what she said;

When we got to the hospital, I phoned my uncle and told him, but asked him not to allow my mother to know about it, because if she does, she would not believe that I was still alive and she might kill herself before I come back.

The operation involved removing some pellets ( a real bullet would not fall off her head just like that) from her body and i am sure no vital organ was involved. If it was other-wise, i am sure the hospital in Sokoto would not be able to handle the case.

The reason for isolating Yaradua from friends and family, including the mother, uncles, aunties, nieces, etc is not to protect them. The true state of Yaradua's health is still unknown as we have been hearing different versions from people chosen by Turai to visit him. One cousin said they spoke and he was walking, another would say they drank kunu together, a cleric would say they pray together with Yaradua sitting unaided. Another still would say he is unable to speak. The stories are as varied as stories from different episodes of super story.

My brother, a dutiful wife would be more concerned about the well being of her husband than any acquisition of power or even wealth. Most women would choose their husbands to power and wealth - try putting the question to women on this forum. If i am very sick, my wife would be so affected that she would not care about anything else, she usually sleeps in the hospital until i am discharged.

Losing power should not be the end of life for Turai, after all the Husband was about to retire before being drafted into the presidency by OBJ. If his health is in Jeopardy, the most reasonable thing to do is to take care of his health. He cannot be force to resign, as that is is personal prerogative, but if those charged with the responsibility of checks and balance on the executive are ready to do their job, they should step in decisively and normalize the polity.

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But having read the full story, i do not see the connection to the Yara dua's case. The ladies condition was not critical and she informed someone about the true condition of her health. She was very conscious and made the decision to protect the mother, maybe because she felt her case is not critical.
Here is what she said;

How can u say dat it is not related to d Yaraduas case, the isue I was tryin 2 relate is dat its not all time dat u are sick dat u want ur mum 2 kno abt most especially wen it is critical, did d lady kno it was pellets even if u did, did her uncle who kept it frm her mum knew dat it was pellets, did he even c d extent of damage b4 decidin 2 protect her mum, the girl cld hav died durin d operation nd it was dat tension dat she tried 2 save her mum from. In d Yaraduas case did u hear frm d senators dat wen they saw Turai they were shocked at how she had emanciated, if she lost so much weight dat got them shocked how much weight wld Yaradua who didn't have much wld have lost I'm sure if they saw Yaradua they will just conclude dat he is dead so if Yaradua had lost so much wt nd is almost dead nd u bring his mum 2 c him do u hav any idea d psychological effect it wld hav on d old woman, nd her seein him in dat state of wat use will it be 2 Yaradua, so d wife was right in decidin not to allow d mum 2 c him until Yaradua personally asks to c his mother or do u want them while fightin 2 save his life to start buryin his mum who wld go into shock on sightin her son. That shld bring it home 2 u

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The reason for isolating Yaradua from friends and family, including the mother, uncles, aunties, nieces, etc is not to protect them. The true state of Yaradua's health is still unknown as we have been hearing different versions from people chosen by Turai to visit him. One cousin said they spoke and he was walking, another would say they drank kunu together, a cleric would say they pray together with Yaradua sitting unaided. Another still would say he is unable to speak. The stories are as varied as stories from different episodes of super story.

Who made d cousins spokesperson and wen someone is sick nobody paints a gloomy pic of d sick man we all try to encourage others. I don't know if u eva had someone critically ill in ur family someone dear even wen d docs say go nd buy coffin he wld son die u don't run 2 evrybody sayin he wld soon die instead u look 4 other opinions nd method as a christian dat is wen u proclaim faith nd call in ur pastors for rigouros prayers, well d Yaraduas are not christians so they call d God they believe in.
All that said, but u acknowledged dat Turai allowed some of his family membas c him, in a large family do u rily think evryone has d same level of relationship nd is it evry memba of d family dat Yaradua wld like 2 c wen he is sick d ansa is no so wen Yaradua can't talk dat decision wld be made 4 him by his wife and is this in any way spousal abuse.
If u read my earlier post I said its because of my own personal experience dat makes me react wit passion wen it comes 2 d isue of Yaraduas illnes, the wife is only doin all she can because of d love she has 4 her husband, I have asked earlier how has she boosted her political power since Yaradua fell ill

Quote from wirinet
Most women would choose their husbands to power and wealth - try putting the question to women on this forum. If i am very sick, my wife would be so affected that she would not care about anything else, she usually sleeps in the hospital until i am discharged.

Losing power should not be the end of life for Turai, after all the Husband was about to retire before being drafted into the presidency by OBJ. If his health is in Jeopardy, the most reasonable thing to do is to take care of his health. He cannot be force to resign, as that is is personal prerogative, but if those charged with the responsibility of checks and balance on the executive are ready to do their job, they should step in decisively and normalize the polity. 

U said if u were sick ur wife wld care abt ur health, wat if ur colleagues or management starts puttin pressure dat u should be sacked or bring a docs report dat u can work wat do u tink she wld do while u are stil in coma, she will fight nd plead if she knows dat on sightin u they wld just sack u she will prevent them frm seein u, she wld sleep evryday in d hospital nd even wen u get worse she wld tell ur colleagues dat u are gettin beta only trusted friends of urs she may allow 2 c u, she won't allow herself 2 b blackmailed dat u are dead or allow them free acess 2 c u, she wld pray 4 u, fast 4 u wld even perform sacrifices 4 u wld u now call dat spousal abuse or would u compare urself wit a coleague whose wife does not trust himm nd wld not even sleep in d hospital wit him wen he is sick but rather leave him with any of d kids nd pay some visits nd mayb because of dat evry one @ d ofc had free acess to him. That was y I compared Soyinka nd Yaradua in d beginnin. Turais love 4 her husband has made her do all dat she has done, some trusted friends are d ones who tried 2 take advantage of d illnes mayb even threatenin her dat her husband wld b impeached nd all sorts but definitely not her, she cldnt have stayed in Saudi nd ask dat Jonathan shld not b allowed 2 rule wat sort of power wld dat b, but pple wanted 2 rule in her husbands name nd dose are d pple dat Jonathan checkmated by not movin an inch until he was declared Ag president and dat is y even Jonathan isn't interested in invokin section 144. Can a man actually declare anoda man incapacitated, the senators dat passed on last week wld any doc hav declared them incapacitated, or wld any doc hav told them dat they wld die wen they did, Life is a gift frm d creator do u know how many of d healthy politicians Yaradua wld still outlive?

My opinion frm start is dat Turai should not be accused of Spousal Abuse because she has not done anythin in dat light d only reason Soyinka wld hav made dat statement is because he does not enjoy d kind of loyalty frm his wife and his brother Shehu who said votin 4 Yaradua is votin 4 Turai is dat it is uncommon 4 men 2 b influenced by their wives d way Yaradua was.

^This ur Hitler approach highly belligerent to win an arguement like a war is dumbfounding, and reminiscent of Nigerian political aura as-well-as like that of Oyedepo defending his invitation to suck Turai's bosom and yet he sees nothing wrong with it; as it is personal.

This is Dogmatic!!! As oppose to pragmatism that aids democracy

@winiret
U should have quit argueing b4 now

desgiezd:

@ Marvix

I wonder what the basis is for your support for Turai. You should know that Turai's attitude almost ruined our democracy and has completely robbed her husband of the necessary sympathy of Nigerians

absolute Rubbish!!!
How can the attitude of someone that is not recognised in the constitution be a danger to the same constitution
this is the nigerian mentality of blaming others when you have failed to do nothing or take something that is not important to serious!!
The senators/reps/courts that are 'elected' to protect the constitution should have taken care of the issue but it didnt why blame someone that is not recognised by law?

At the moment Jonathan/nigeria is ignoring her, is she complaining of being ignored?
the media made so much noise like nollywood writers when instead it should have focussed on those with legal powers

Yaradua a muslim stays faithful to his first wife, though he has a 2nd wife who he had divorced b4 bcomin a gov, is not known to engage in extra marital affairs or have children frm oda women, can we compare him with Obj a christian who is well known for his philanderin

gbam

Pls anybody can fall sick, attributin it as punishment for his sins puts u in Gods stead nd all I can do is pity u because u are not dead yet nd don't know what will kill u

gbam

In Nigeria once a man is loyal 2 his wife pple attribute it to juju as though it is abnormal to love your wife nd listen 2 her.

gbam




if i continue quoting/agreeing with you I'll run out of gbams.

I wonder where women or ladies are on this forum.

they are all Nigerians so dont hold your breath.

@ topic

it's spousal abuse because it's unusual in Nigeria to see a literally only wife in that seat.