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Re: In Rare Letter, Benedict XVI Says He's 'on Pilgrimage Home ' by Ubenedictus(m): 9:30pm On Feb 25, 2018
Emmanystone:

Hahahahahaha. Every Christian is the New covenant is a Priest. There's was no longer an Oder of priesthood. If there was, we will see it the Acts of the Apostle, pls point it out.


The Catholic priesthood is paganistic.
do you know every Israelite in the old covenant was a priest, yet they still had ministerial priests?

who told you that because we are a kingdom of priests then the ministerial priests disappeared?
Re: In Rare Letter, Benedict XVI Says He's 'on Pilgrimage Home ' by Emmanystone: 9:54pm On Feb 25, 2018
Ubenedictus:
do you know every Israelite in the old covenant was a priest, yet they still had ministerial priests?

who told you that because we are a kingdom of priests then the ministerial priests disappeared?
What lies are you telling here?

The only Priesthood Oder was according to the Levitical Priesthood. Only Levites were priests. Pls which other Tribe of Israel were priests?

The Ministerial Priest offered what sacrifice? Cos, Christ became the High priest forever o.


Hmmmm you guys will do everything to defend this error.


Sir, in the New Covenant, Christ became the Priest and the Lamb at the same time. We as priest just serves Christ.

Pls show from the Acts of Apostles that the Priesthood continued?

Priesthood according to whose Order?
Re: In Rare Letter, Benedict XVI Says He's 'on Pilgrimage Home ' by Nobody: 10:48pm On Feb 25, 2018
Emmanystone:

It's not in the scripture because its unscriptural.

What you practice is unscriptural. It's Paganistic
And where exactly does the Scriptures say once something isn't found in the Scriptures it is Paganistic?
Jesus our high Priest never married. Was he Paganistic too?
Do you even realise that clerical celibacy is a discipline in the Catholic Church and not all Catholic Priests are celibate?
If you believed Paul when he said the unmarried state is best for the one who wants to give his all to God, why then do you cry foul over the celibate nature of Catholic Priesthood?

Are your reasons reasonable or is this simply a case of giving a dog a bad name in order to hang it?
Re: In Rare Letter, Benedict XVI Says He's 'on Pilgrimage Home ' by Emmanystone: 10:58am On Feb 26, 2018
AkunnaTochi:

And where exactly does the Scriptures say once something isn't found in the Scriptures it is Paganistic?
Jesus our high Priest never married. Was he Paganistic too?
Good News Translation Revelation 22:19
And if any take anything away from the prophetic words of this book, God will take away from them their share of the fruit of the tree of life and of the Holy City, which are described in this book.

What scripture gives it's enough for us to live by, do not add to it. Satan wants us to add so that he can plant errors.

AkunnaTochi:

Do you even realise that clerical celibacy is a discipline in the Catholic Church and not all Catholic Priests are celibate?
Question is, who instituted it? YHWH or Jesus? Who?

If Catholic church is lead by the Holy Spirit, shouldn't she follow sxiptures?

AkunnaTochi:

If you believed Paul when he said the unmarried state is best for the one who wants to give his all to God, why then do you cry foul over the celibate nature of Catholic Priesthood?
Satan na wao. He ceases every opportunity to plant lies. Did Paul institute an Order of Celibacy in the Priesthood? No. Did he say go and form a priestly order where men and women will come in and remain unmarried? No.

Do you even realize that the order of the Priesthood ended with Christ? Where did you get this your Priest of both males and females? Is it Jewish? No. Is it Christian? No. Is it Hellenist? YES.

In Hellenism both males and females are priests and Priestess. You catholics calls your Priestesses, Nuns.

Paul said, if you can control your sexual urge like him and serve God in purity then fine, do it. But if not 'Let everyman have his own wife and every woman her own husband. Not a place to promote homosexuality and Pedophilia.

AkunnaTochi:

Are your reasons reasonable or is this simply a case of giving a dog a bad name in order to hang it?
Your practices are Unscriptural. And we as Christians live by the word. The Word of Gos is the manual for living, outside of it, there'll be error. And the Catholic Church is full of error.

Bros come out of Catholic Church o. Jokes apart, Hellenism is satanic and that is what the Catholic Church practices.
Re: In Rare Letter, Benedict XVI Says He's 'on Pilgrimage Home ' by Ubenedictus(m): 1:34pm On Feb 26, 2018
Emmanystone:

Who were these early Christians? I hope you know the Priesthood was an Old Covenant Oder? They stood to do what Christ should do and as Christ came, their office became obsolete? In this New Covenant Christ is the High Priest and everyone of us, a priest.

Christ was the Lamb they kept sacrificing. When Christ was Sacrificed, all their job ended.

The Catholic Priesthood is still functional because her gods and goddesses have nothing to do with the finished work of Christ

then you haven't really been studying your Bible.

the first kingdom of priests is the Israelites, God consecrated them and made them all priests

ex 19:5
5 'Now then, if you will indeed obey My voice and
keep My covenant, then you shall be My own
possession among all the peoples, for all the earth is
Mine; 6 and you shall be to Me a kingdom of priests
and a holy nation.' These are the words that you shall
speak to the sons of Israel."

they also had a high priest.

then they had ministerial priests and levites .


that is 3 classes of priests.

1. a kingdom of priests.
2. a high priest.
3. ministerial priests and levites who minister to the kingdom of priests.

Jesus didn't annihilate the old covenant he fulfilled it and gave it its true meaning thus transcending it.

the book of Hebrew tell us that just like the old covenant we also have a high priest, he is Jesus our Lord.

Peter tells us that just as the old covenant was a kingdom of priests so too we are all a kingdom of priests

1 Peter 2:9
But you are A CHOSEN RACE, A royal
PRIESTHOOD, A HOLY NATION, A PEOPLE FOR
God's OWN POSSESSION, so that you may
proclaim the excellencies of Him who has called
you out of darkness into His marvelous light;


the last class of priests is the ministerial priest and levites.... in fact God himself prophesied that they too will be in the new covenant.
Isaiah 66:20

20 "Then they shall bring all your brethren from all
the nations as a grain offering to the LORD, on
horses, in chariots, in litters, on mules and on
camels, to My holy mountain Jerusalem," says the
LORD, "just as the sons of Israel bring their grain
offering in a clean vessel to the house of the LORD.
21 "I will also take some of them for priests and for
Levites," says the LORD. 22 "For just as the new
heavens and the new earth Which I make will endure
before Me," declares the LORD, "So your offspring
and your name will endure.…

and according to the new testament the apostolicly ordained ministers of the new covenant are ministerial priests... that prophesy is fulfilled.

Romans 15:15-16 --"But I have written to
you rather boldly in some respects to
remind you, because of the grace given me
by God to be a minister of Christ Jesus to
the Gentiles in performing the PRIESTLY
service of the Gospel of God , so that the
offering up of the Gentiles may be
acceptable, sanctified by the Holy Spirit."



so in Christ Jesus we have a priesthood in the order of Melchizedek and in him all the shadows and types of the old covenant are fulfilled. we have a high priest, a Royal kingdom of priests and also the ministerial priests who officiate in the Church.

so yes we still have a active priesthood in the new covenant.
the old covenant high priest became obsolete and Jesus came as the new high priest, isreal the kingdom of priests gave way for the Church the new kingdom of priests and the ministerial priests of the old law became obsolete and gave way for the ministerial priesthood of the apostles who ordained others as deacons, presbyter and bishops.

it is a pity these your end time churches aren't teaching you guys the full extent of the priesthood
Re: In Rare Letter, Benedict XVI Says He's 'on Pilgrimage Home ' by Ubenedictus(m): 1:53pm On Feb 26, 2018
Emmanystone:

Good News Translation Revelation 22:19
[b]And if any take anything away from the prophetic words of this book, God will take away from them their share of the fruit of the tree of life and of the Holy City, which are described in this book.
hope you know that passage is talking about the book of revelation alone?

What scripture gives it's enough for us to live by, do not add to it. Satan wants us to add so that he can plant errors.


Question is, who instituted it? YHWH or Jesus? Who?

If Catholic church is lead by the Holy Spirit, shouldn't she follow sxiptures?


Satan na wao. He ceases every opportunity to plant lies. Did Paul institute an Order of Celibacy in the Priesthood? No. Did he say go and form a priestly order where men and women will come in and remain unmarried? No.

Do you even realize that the order of the Priesthood ended with Christ? Where did you get this your Priest of both males and females? Is it Jewish? No. Is it Christian? No. Is it Hellenist? YES.

In Hellenism both males and females are priests and Priestess. You catholics calls your Priestesses, Nuns.

Paul said, if you can control your sexual urge like him and serve God in purity then fine, do it. But if not 'Let everyman have his own wife and every woman her own husband. Not a place to promote homosexuality and Pedophilia.


Your practices are Unscriptural. And we as Christians live by the word. The Word of Gos is the manual for living, outside of it, there'll be error. And the Catholic Church is full of error.

Bros come out of Catholic Church o. Jokes apart, Hellenism is satanic and that is what the Catholic Church practices.

unfortunately you seem unable to comprehend even the Bible.

its a Pity

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Re: In Rare Letter, Benedict XVI Says He's 'on Pilgrimage Home ' by Shaev7(m): 5:22pm On Feb 26, 2018
Emmanystone:
Mr. Scriptures
Some Christians outside Catholic church seem to turn the scriptures upside down. Heresies! As a Christian, you do the opposite thing and yet you say you practise Christianity. Nobody needs to tell you, time will tell. What church do you attend? Live out your Christian life and stop criticising Catholics. Our Lady mother Mary and Jesus is calling you, please answer the call.
Re: In Rare Letter, Benedict XVI Says He's 'on Pilgrimage Home ' by Nobody: 5:33pm On Feb 26, 2018
Emmanystone:

Good News Translation Revelation 22:19
And if any take anything away from the prophetic words of this book, God will take away from them their share of the fruit of the tree of life and of the Holy City, which are described in this book.

What scripture gives it's enough for us to live by, do not add to it. Satan wants us to add so that he can plant errors.


Question is, who instituted it? YHWH or Jesus? Who?

If Catholic church is lead by the Holy Spirit, shouldn't she follow sxiptures?


Satan na wao. He ceases every opportunity to plant lies. Did Paul institute an Order of Celibacy in the Priesthood? No. Did he say go and form a priestly order where men and women will come in and remain unmarried? No.

Do you even realize that the order of the Priesthood ended with Christ? Where did you get this your Priest of both males and females? Is it Jewish? No. Is it Christian? No. Is it Hellenist? YES.

In Hellenism both males and females are priests and Priestess. You catholics calls your Priestesses, Nuns.

Paul said, if you can control your sexual urge like him and serve God in purity then fine, do it. But if not 'Let everyman have his own wife and every woman her own husband. Not a place to promote homosexuality and Pedophilia.


Your practices are Unscriptural. And we as Christians live by the word. The Word of Gos is the manual for living, outside of it, there'll be error. And the Catholic Church is full of error.

Bros come out of Catholic Church o. Jokes apart, Hellenism is satanic and that is what the Catholic Church practices.

I'm sorry, brother, I don't think I'm able to help you. However, you should read up UBenedictus' response if you are sincere.

Advice: Do not let your hatred for the Catholic faith becloud your senses.
May God's Holy Spirit lead you into all truth.

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Re: In Rare Letter, Benedict XVI Says He's 'on Pilgrimage Home ' by Emmanystone: 5:59pm On Feb 26, 2018
Ubenedictus:
hope you know that passage is talking about the book of revelation alone?

unfortunately you seem unable to comprehend even the Bible.

its a Pity
Sriously? Hahahahahahahahaha. Bros, no Scripture stands independent to make meaning. What Jesus says in Genesis applies in Revelation, and what happens in Revelation applies in Genesis.

Scriptures interprete each other. How will you know this when you believe in Roman traditions instead of the Bible. angry
Re: In Rare Letter, Benedict XVI Says He's 'on Pilgrimage Home ' by Ubenedictus(m): 9:43pm On Feb 26, 2018
Emmanystone:

Sriously? Hahahahahahahahaha. Bros, no Scripture stands independent to make meaning. What Jesus says in Genesis applies in Revelation, and what happens in Revelation applies in Genesis.

Scriptures interprete each other. How will you know this when you believe in Roman traditions instead of the Bible. angry
revelation was a book of its own, it was compiled as part of the Bible in the 4th century by the Catholic Church.

it isn't talking about the whole Bible it clearly says don't add or subtract from the prophecy in "THIS BOOK", it is very specific. the new testament wasn't a book at the time.


its only people who have comprehension problems that try to make that passage mean what it doesn't mean, it is very specific. this book.
Re: In Rare Letter, Benedict XVI Says He's 'on Pilgrimage Home ' by Nobody: 10:18pm On Feb 26, 2018
Ubenedictus:
revelation was a book of its own, it was compiled as part of the Bible in the 4th century by the Catholic Church.

it isn't talking about the whole Bible it clearly says don't add or subtract from the prophecy in "THIS BOOK", it is very specific. the new testament wasn't a book at the time.


its only people who have comprehension problems that try to make that passage mean what it doesn't mean, it is very specific. this book.
He originally did not have comprehension problem. His bias and hatred for the Catholic faith just won't let him reason straight.

How would he have known Revelation had the Catholic Church not included it in the Canon of Scripture?
Now he seeks to give it an interpretation that doesn't belong there.
I think Emmany is actually guilty of what he accuses another of - saying what the Scriptures never said(adding).
Re: In Rare Letter, Benedict XVI Says He's 'on Pilgrimage Home ' by Nobody: 10:35pm On Feb 26, 2018
Emmanystone:

Sriously? Hahahahahahahahaha. Bros, no Scripture stands independent to make meaning. What Jesus says in Genesis applies in Revelation, and what happens in Revelation applies in Genesis.

Scriptures interprete each other. How will you know this when you believe in Roman traditions instead of the Bible. angry
Revelation 22:18-21.
18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

20 He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.

21 The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.

Note the words "PROPHESY OF THIS BOOK" and "PLAGUES THAT ARE WRITTEN IN THIS BOOK."

It may interest you to note that at the time Revelation was written, there was nothing like the Canon of the new testament and we never had the Bible like we have it, today. So, the writer of Revelation wasn't reference to the Bible that you have in your hand in the form that you have it. He was speaking of the words of his prophecy - Revelation.

However, no reasonable Christian distorts the words of Scripture, even though Christianity is not a religion of the Books. Yes. God continues to speak to mankind even outside of the pages of the Bible.

But then, this line of argument isn't at all necessary because the Catholic Church has never distorted and will never distort the words of Scripture. Your arrogant insistence doesn't change this truth.

Speaking of adding and removing(let's assume your logic is sensible), from which portion of the Bible did your Pastors learn to wear suits and speak with Microphones?

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Re: In Rare Letter, Benedict XVI Says He's 'on Pilgrimage Home ' by Shaev7(m): 10:00am On Feb 27, 2018
AkunnaTochi:
Revelation 22:18-21.
18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

20 He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.

21 The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.

Note the words "PROPHESY OF THIS BOOK" and "PLAGUES THAT ARE WRITTEN IN THIS BOOK."

It may interest you to note that at the time Revelation was written, there was nothing like the Canon of the new testament and we never had the Bible like we have it, today. So, the writer of Revelation wasn't reference to the Bible that you have in your hand in the form that you have it. He was speaking of the words of his prophecy - Revelation.

However, no reasonable Christian distorts the words of Scripture, even though Christianity is not a religion of the Books. Yes. God continues to speak to mankind even outside of the pages of the Bible.

But then, this line of argument isn't at all necessary because the Catholic Church has never distorted and will never distort the words of Scripture. Your arrogant insistence doesn't change this truth.

Speaking of adding and removing(let's assume your logic is sensible), from which portion of the Bible did your Pastors learn to wear suits and speak with Microphones?
This people are professionals in criticizing the catholic church. Leave them. After misinterpreting the bible, they are looking for who will perish with them.

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