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Re: Are Polytechnics On Par With Universities? by haslaw(m): 5:08am On Feb 20, 2018 |
olamy223: Which agbara industrial estate is this one talking about. Must you even create lies to make your points. How many people (HND or not) make millions of dollars per month in Nigeria. The Agbara industrial estate that I know is not very good for the HND guys as quite a lot of them are used more as labourers. Their pay is far less than what degree holders earn. There is nothing like HND engineer. It is a crime for an HND guy to call himself an engineer, It is called impersonation. He could be arrested and jailed for impersonation |
Re: Are Polytechnics On Par With Universities? by haslaw(m): 5:13am On Feb 20, 2018 |
chapwiz: In the oil companies, Degree holders earn several times more than diploma guys. |
Re: Are Polytechnics On Par With Universities? by haslaw(m): 5:15am On Feb 20, 2018 |
NairaMaster1: Speak for yourself. |
Re: Are Polytechnics On Par With Universities? by jossy404: 5:38am On Feb 20, 2018 |
Where did you get your statistics from? Wake me up if you are talking from experience or from hearsay? Although am not a fan of this stupid and baseless arguments but when you use this point as a basis I will not support. BSC OR HND na d employment wey go bring food to your table author=haslaw post=65213192] In the oil companies, Degree holders earn several times more than diploma guys.[/quote]
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Re: Are Polytechnics On Par With Universities? by haslaw(m): 6:06am On Feb 20, 2018 |
jossy404: I was a graduate intern in ExxonMobil from 2012 to 2013. The career path for diploma holders is completely different from the degree guys. The diploma guys are mostly contract workers who's appointments can easily be terminated while a lot of the degree guys are on permanent appointments. One guy in my office with both HND and degree in mechanical engineering is always very sad and cranky because he entered ExxonMobil with his diploma because he was yet to complete his university degree at the time he was recruited. Now ExxonMobil refused to place him in the category of degree holders. This is because the company has policy of not upgrading HND to degree equivalent. |
Re: Are Polytechnics On Par With Universities? by olamy223(m): 8:39am On Feb 20, 2018 |
haslaw:your believes would make you know nothing, HND graduat,- PGD- NSE exam to be called an engineer- register for COREN to be a registered engineer R.Engr. according to you, HND grad can never be an engineer until they read further, yes I agreed. also note that it is also called impersonation for a fresh uni grad to use the prefix Engr, not until after five years which he/she is eligible to take the NSE exam |
Re: Are Polytechnics On Par With Universities? by Nobody: 8:44am On Feb 20, 2018 |
12submarine:Your comment is one of the wisest comments here, you talk with absolute understanding. I totally agree with you. |
Re: Are Polytechnics On Par With Universities? by 12submarine(m): 9:01am On Feb 20, 2018 |
Rangojack:Don't mind them. They think engineering is about wiring a house or repairing induction motors and generators. That is why you will see a roadside technician boasting how he is better than engineers working in well paying private coys. Is it that those private coys don't know what they are doing? An engineer can actually practise in an air conditioned office with just his laptop. The fact that an experienced nurse has become very proficient in handling syringes and needless doesn't suggest he/she has a better knowledge of medicine than a medical consultant who might not be proficient in using syringes. 1 Like |
Re: Are Polytechnics On Par With Universities? by Sagamite(m): 9:04am On Feb 20, 2018 |
Bluffly: What a fcking dumb slowpoke! Foooool, did you even read the article before you made this daft comment? 1 Like |
Re: Are Polytechnics On Par With Universities? by Hormotorlah: 9:23am On Feb 20, 2018 |
obawinner: You've been on both waters and you lie this much? Please can you tell us the name of the Polytechnic you attended that don't offer borrowed courses from other department and made Corps members/NCE holders lecture you? |
Re: Are Polytechnics On Par With Universities? by kayusbrown(m): 9:38am On Feb 20, 2018 |
Boscolo: We have always reiterate this on this forum. Nigerian HND is unique, though it was ill-conceived. That is why there has been moves to scrap the award 'HND' and replace it with B.Tech. But like the OP rightly observed, this is not a sane society. It is only in Nigeria that a tertiary institution cannot award degrees if it doesn't carry the nomenclature 'University'. If MIT, CALTECH etc. were in Nigeria, you would have heard confused institutions like COREN saying their graduates are not registrable as 'engineers' because they didn't graduate from a 'University'. The hood doesn't make the monk. The same nomenclature nonsense is what is impeding Colleges of Education from awarding degrees. It is the content that matters. For factual analysis, take the course synopsis for say B.Sc. Electrical/Electronics Engineering in Unilag and compare to the synopsis of ND+HND of Yabatech. You will see the folly in the discrimination and realise why Nigeria will never progress technologically as long as the discrimination subsists. In saner climes lilke the USA and Canada, you can proceed directly for your master's degree with the Nigerian HND! Yes. There are living testimonies (https://www.dailytrust.com.ng/news/notes-from-atlanta/ibrahim-waziri-from-hnd-in-nigeria-to-phd-in-america/161195.html). Those are countries that have institutions like World Education Services, where credentials are evaluated on their merit and not their nomenclature. Let's for a while agree that HND is inferior to bachelor's degree. The reasonable thing any government will do is to provide a path to bridge the gap. What are the paths available? 1. PGD: Isn't it ironic that a qualification adjuded as not equivalent to a bachelor's degree is now being accepted for admission to a postgraduate programme? No education policy in the world is as confusing as Nigeria's. 2. Direct Entry: Apart from the the nomenclature nonsense, we also have the 'not less than 3years' clause in the laws establishing Universities, as the minimum period an undergraduate must spend in a University to be awarded a bachelor's degree. This is even a greater nonsense. In saner climes, credits are transferred freely from one institution to the other, as long as certain requirements are met. That is why it is possible for a British HND holder to spend just one year in a TOP-UP programme and acquire a bachelor's degree. Our 'wise' education policy formulators however believe that it is best for NCE and HND holders to study for at least 3years (it doens't matter whether new knowledge is being gained) in the University before getting a bachelor's degree, after study of 3 and 5years respectively in their previous institutions. Wonder why our education system is a joke? Way forward: 1. Scrap HND. Polytechnics should award ND and bachelor's degree in their areas of expertise. Period. 2 Likes |
Re: Are Polytechnics On Par With Universities? by bjstardom(m): 2:37pm On Feb 20, 2018 |
Whether You Are A Polytechnic or University Graduate what matters most in the end is how successful you are, if you like get masters or PhD, the society will always respect ND graduate who is more successful than you are. Moral of the story: Your capability is the key. |
Re: Are Polytechnics On Par With Universities? by haslaw(m): 3:08pm On Feb 20, 2018 |
olamy223: The problem with you HND people is your ignorance. I addressed your point based on what you said not based on what you FAILED to say. Imagine your mumu self going back to your instructors that you have to make additions to your exam script after exams. |
Re: Are Polytechnics On Par With Universities? by Bluffly: 4:04pm On Feb 20, 2018 |
Sagamite:Your entire family is a fo0ol. I knew you won't get the drift. That is how dumb and idiotic in nature you are. |
Re: Are Polytechnics On Par With Universities? by Sagamite(m): 4:08pm On Feb 20, 2018 |
Bluffly: You are a cretinous fuuktard! Did you read the article? Product of a failed education system, how many times did your repeat SSCE before you successfully got 5 credits? Baboon mooorons want to talk, instead of learning. 2 Likes |
Re: Are Polytechnics On Par With Universities? by Mike4S: 4:10pm On Feb 20, 2018 |
The fact that Nigerians allow polytechnic graduates to enroll in a course that will qualify them as a degree holder is the reason why the two are not at par. Some days back, I was at a College of Education in Akoka, near UNILAG, where there was an advert for HND holders, who want to upgrade their qualification. |
Re: Are Polytechnics On Par With Universities? by objobj: 4:54pm On Feb 20, 2018 |
Olaitqn: Which university and what equipment are you talking about? Site examples pls. |
Re: Are Polytechnics On Par With Universities? by Bluffly: 6:18pm On Feb 20, 2018 |
Sagamite:E dey pain you. If you cannot read in between the lines, you can't get. Keep sucking. Summary of the article to help you a bit, As long as they are polythecnic, they remain different from a Uni. Moreover with the focus on UK, none of the Poly converts are in the top 50 in UK, which spells their difference largely after several years of conversion. Keep sucking. |
Re: Are Polytechnics On Par With Universities? by Sagamite(m): 11:10am On Feb 21, 2018 |
Bluffly: Oh, so moronic fuuktard, you just finally decided to read the article? So your daft arse typed this crap without reading it before? Bluffly: |
Re: Are Polytechnics On Par With Universities? by ChevKing(m): 12:28am On Mar 19, 2018 |
It is stupidity to compare, am surprise that even the Government is lending her voice on this issue. Polytechnics were set up for a reason not to be at par with University's degree, for instance in the engineering sector the ND and the HND holder were to support the engineers in terms of practical application and interpretation of designs. Any Government that tries to make both equal in any way or give same accordance to both is uninformed,retrogressive and needs its Education Minister fired! |
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