nwatthu:
get sense..olodo like u

e pain am .. Truth hurts

masseratti:
at a point in time in the history of the church they actually encouraged that,Reformation has changed everything.

Lie. It was the reformation that enforced tithe

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masseratti:
Hmmm,well said Bishop, but still the Vatican is one of the richest entities of all time,both in power and wealth.

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the Vatican is a city of its of own and functions like one, even with the enormous wealth and power at its disposal, the leaders are an epitome of humility. that is what Christianity is all about.

uuzba:


Check out your church.

You heard of Missionary schools here in Nigeria abi? The school fees was cheep. Who built the schools and paid the teachers? Was money from your current Church?

These came from overseas. Members over there donated these monies for charity in "poor African countries".

Which members were these? What church was this?
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Does your current church do anything for anyone?
Ask and find out. God will guide you along the way for the rest.

I can assure you that i have done a thorough finding before saying that!I know quite a number of worshippers especially widows of the new generation churches who do not get help/support of any kind even Winners too.There's for instance a widow who leaves in Kaduna and attend Winners Chapel.No one ever visits her let alone render financial/material support but thanks to God for using my family to bless her and her only daughter who served last year!Thats one among several others.My question is,why are these ones not benefiting from the charity fund you mentioned and what happens to the tithes and offerings received from members regularly?

Acidosis:


Yes, but stop the generalizations. I have never been forced by any pastor to pay tithe or offering since I have been attending Churches.

Tithing in many pentecostal churches is not compulsory. I have not paid tithe in months, and my presence is still very much needed in the church.

Whether tithe is compulsory in your church or not, as long as it is collected, that means your church practices Judaism not Christianity.

harrismcse:
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the Vatican is a city of its of own and functions like one, even with the enormous wealth and power at its disposal, the leaders are an epitome of humility. that is what Christianity is all about.

please it seem you don't understand my post,you don't have to comment on everything you read,you can read where I called the Vatican an institution, not a church nor a state,the state called Vatican is relatively new compared to the institution or church which has stood over millennial

achiever12:


Lie. It was the reformation that enforced tithe

good for you,believe whatever what u want to believe,but try and read very well.

rickyrex:
be proud of what you have. Even thou my church will not take me to heaven. Am proud to be a catholic

I am Catholic, my Church was founded by Christ as his mystical body and bride, it is the means he uses to take me to heaven

I'm surprised you think the Church won't take you to heaven

salvation101:
hehehehe u do not want to be associated with catholics, its understandable cos u know if we open the can of worms, it would be a shame to have been catholic. But if you av forgotten, i av not. Dis is not the first thread we will be discussing on and you will be promoting ur catholic cult.. U can't deceive me.
Talking about mmm or bet9ja, i am yet to see a pentecostal church dat sold "indulgence".. One of the greatest scams in the history of Christianity

No. I do not want to be associated with any group.
No, I have never "promoted" anything about the church you utter lying clown.
What does the sale of indulgences in Middle Ages Europe have to do with frauds and thieves that manipulate scriptures to fleece their flock in the 21st century?
No Pentecostal church sells indulgences/penance like the medieval church. No, what they do is they only sell blessings in the 21st century by telling you to pay tithes, so that you can multiply your wealth like an MMM scam. Else, the blessings of heaven will be closed to you. No wonder Redeemed had to circulate memos warning their pastors to stop participating in MMM. And the gullible sheep gladly follow the ponzi scammers.

Please, open that can of worms. For arguments sake, I'll even accept being a catholic.

Obi1kenobi:


No. I do not want to be associated with any group.
No, I have never "promoted" anything about the church you utter lying clown.
What does the sale of indulgences in Middle Ages Europe have to do with frauds and thieves that manipulate scriptures to fleece their flock in the 21st century?
No Pentecostal church sells indulgences/penance like the medieval church. No, what they do is they only sell blessings in the 21st century by telling you to pay tithes, so that you can multiply your wealth like an MMM scam. Else, the blessings of heaven will be closed to you. No wonder Redeemed had to circulate memos warning their pastors to stop participating in MMM. And the gullible sheep gladly follow the ponzi scammers.

Please, open that can of worms. For arguments sake, I'll even accept being a catholic.

ok. Lets start with the inquisition

Acidosis:
Do you know some pentecostals don't collect tithes? Do you know some of them own Universities in this country? We castigate Pastors/Churches for building schools their members can't afford and then some of us come out to say #ProudCatholic as if Caritas University, Madonna University and other catholic universities in Nigeria were built with "Anointing or Olive Oil".

These are a few donations from corrupt politicians like David Mark to the said Catholic church;

https://www.nairaland.com/2061497/st-lucy-catholic-church-ukana

https://www.nairaland.com/4282756/catholic-church-otukpo-built-david/2

We have many of them in the east.

To put the record straight, majority of the corrupt christian politicians in Nigeria today are strong affiliates of the Catholic Church, so what exactly is he talking about?

Una just wan take style kill person with laugh for here....! Can you imagine talking about - "building a university with anointing oil?" Hilarious! Where did that one come from?

Acidosis:
Whether you call it tithe or offering or seed, no organisation (religious, NGO or not-for-profit) survives without MONEY.


There is really no point trying to tell us you don't collect tithe. Those mighty structures were not constructed with free water or sand. They were built with MONEY.


All Churches, Catholic or Pentecostal run on MONEY.

You wish the catholic church was part of that rot unfortunately it isnt

masseratti:
you are too aggressive did I dispute anything you said there? And this are attribute of modern Catholic church, before the Church was a government its self,so it has to be rich and extremely powerful.

lol no ves, alert no gree enter when I expected to. peace

harrismcse:
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the Vatican is a city of its of own and functions like one, even with the enormous wealth and power at its disposal, the leaders are an epitome of humility. that is what Christianity is all about.

leaders epitome of humility? Guess you don't know anything about the church history, go and read and let's talk.

Ubenedictus:
I am Catholic, my Church was founded by Christ as his mystical body and bride, it is the means he uses to take me to heaven

I'm surprised you think the Church won't take you to heaven

bro you been a Catholic is not a criteria to make heaven. But how faithful you are to his teachings on earth. So don't get it twisted

rickyrex:
bro you been a Catholic is not a criteria to make heaven. But how faithful you are to his teachings on earth. So don't get it twisted

been a faithful Catholic will certainly get you there, that is the very reason for which Christ established his Church, that through it we may obtain the tools and graces, the word of life and the sacraments to get us there.

nonye6194:


lol no ves, alert no gree enter when I expected to. peace

lol